Can The Luna's Howl Dethrone Zaouli's Bane? | Destiny 2

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    The Luna's Howl might just be the new best in slot solar PvE handcannon. It has a fantastic perk selection including solar synergy favourites such as heal clip and incandescent but also has the exclusive perk magnificent howl. Which when used correctly can cycle 50% extra damage shots and really pack a punch.
    But of course the competition is fierce with Zaouli's Bane being ever popular in recent seasons with a combination of explosive payload and incandescent. While Luna's wont have it beat on incandescent since it is currently not able to be enhanced it can have it beat through hit crit damage and the synergies available here.
    Using it with precision synergy options can give some fantastic results, a simple one is the celestial nighthawk to refund super energy at an increased rate. You can also use solar weapon artifact mods effectively here, especially rays of precision which when radiant will cause all solar precision final blows to create an ignition. No need for incandescent and scorch here, simply go straight to the high damage ignition.
    PvE Handcannons: 0:00
    The God Rolls: 0:20
    Luna's Howl: 1:25
    Zaouli's Bane: 2:51
    Origin Comparison: 3:48
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  • @r1tzie_rino
    @r1tzie_rino 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    this video cooked so hard u gave me 100 scorch stacks and i instantly ignited

    • @GandalfDaBrown
      @GandalfDaBrown 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      You are now a fire sprite.

  • @DaMurph676
    @DaMurph676 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks im def gonna have to try lunas now

  • @coma594
    @coma594 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I used to have a few different zaoulis crafted, all have incandescent in the 4th but I had one with ensemble for raids/dungeon type shit (cuz i hate the reload), one with pugilist for running sunbracers without heat rises, and the one that I’ve ultimately kept, explosive payload w/ incandescent feels so good compared to lunas heal clip/incandescent. Tho I do like Lunas for my verity’s and starfire builds (heal clip + benevolence)

  • @jonathancotter7429
    @jonathancotter7429 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    mag howl and slidshot works great in "at level" content. you can keep mag howl uptime near 100% if you hit your shots

  • @CarurossTheSecond218
    @CarurossTheSecond218 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Still find myself using fatebringer TL explosive/frenzy when I want my heavy exotic on.

  • @viviciuszn
    @viviciuszn 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Zaouli = Explosive + Incan / OFA, pure big stomping power
    Its about shooting and things dying.
    Luna = Heal clip + Incandescent, the trait works as free Demolitionist built in + Heal clip can activate Ember of Benevolente for a really good loop
    Its about being the best to pair with solar builds

  • @Copeharder00
    @Copeharder00 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Early to on level = Luna’s
    Every aspect of the game = Zaouli’s.

    • @whitefaze13
      @whitefaze13 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      For now, once Lunas is craftable, it’s going to be a lot closer if not giving Lunas an edge with added versatility/survivability

  • @Kim-br5yj
    @Kim-br5yj 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    have both, but its the fell of the trigger which make me like luna more.

  • @archerrofe9728
    @archerrofe9728 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Just need a hand cannon with EP & RR

  • @Danny-hb1zb
    @Danny-hb1zb 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    So as a celestial main I’m better off running howl over incandescent?

    • @DuqkD2
      @DuqkD2  28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Absolutely, since you're going for crits anyway might as well make them 50% stronger, incandescent doesn't do a whole lot at base unless its really built into

    • @Danny-hb1zb
      @Danny-hb1zb 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@DuqkD2 thanks for explaining mate keep up the mint work ✌🏻

    • @d2cbro
      @d2cbro 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@DuqkD2 Incandescent will gain a little bit of stock for Hunter Prismatic, killing a scorch affected enemy should make you invisible.

  • @d2cbro
    @d2cbro 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nice video. I tried a few of these rolls and yeah subsistence/mag howl is a pretty fun minigame. I'm not sure if it's good though.
    Heal Clip is the obvious 3rd column perk choice over Zaoulis. Ember of Benevolence is one of the best fragments so I think it might be worth building into. Luna's is probably one of the better heal clip choices for PVE.

  • @funkydunkas101
    @funkydunkas101 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Zaoulis more damage, Lunas more survivability

  • @wilmertorres5256
    @wilmertorres5256 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I dont raid so i love lunas

  • @gormleypeach5809
    @gormleypeach5809 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I hate it but I don't really like either gun. Hate everything about Zaouli except the perk pool so I dont really use it, and luna isn't too special except for the magnificent perk, but that don't feel good once I start taking it into harder stuff. My personal favorite solar handconnon is Ignious hammer with heal clip & incandescent!

    • @hurryupndie-ym7te
      @hurryupndie-ym7te 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Try solar loader bane will feel much better

  • @johngrantham4862
    @johngrantham4862 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Luna’s has already replaced Zaouli’s for me. Better reload, better stability and being able to get the healing on any subclass.

  • @Kizzster
    @Kizzster 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I have both but Luna's is better for me because heal clip in end game content is too good. I noticed Luna hits harder and is way easier for precision shots.

    • @goboyghost
      @goboyghost 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Luna hits harder? Lmao wtf are you dumb

  • @x9x9x9x9x9
    @x9x9x9x9x9 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    IMO I like it more. Explosive payload is a great perk. I mean its an S+ tier perk but at times I think its not really needed. In low end activities like 1600 power raids, strikes, even normal onslaught its almost a wasted perk. Yes the extra damage and range is nice but in low end activities most things die to a single shot. I would be curious to see, in end game activities, how much it really matters. Does it reduce TTK on multiple enemy types? Anyways I really like my discord incandescent roll. I do think I will replace it with subsistence incandescent if I ever get one though.
    Also I dont think EP spreads scorch but I could be wrong. I keep forgetting to test this.

    • @EggyWeggyIII
      @EggyWeggyIII 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Ep does not spread scorch (this season we have that artifact mod but that doesn’t count)
      Let’s also remember that EP is best in slot for stagger and while you may be able to one shot crit everything very often even in low end content body shots to mid tier red bars require a headshot to kill. Explo shifts that crit to body damage ratio to be a lot more forgiving so that there isn’t a need for crits. Imo the only thing Luna’s has going for it is heal clip but if you’re running solar already just run one of the many healing options in the game already.

  • @jonathanw9861
    @jonathanw9861 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    But sun shot though. If you need ad clear nothing better

  • @Bigslay28
    @Bigslay28 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Epochal integration is still being slept on.

  • @LeFrenchyestFry
    @LeFrenchyestFry 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I hate the sights, cant hit anything with lunas :(

  • @dabtasticcharizard9817
    @dabtasticcharizard9817 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Honestly I'll run Lunas over Zaolis just cause Zaolis is just 2 goofy for me. Explosive payload or naw

  • @RequiemL34
    @RequiemL34 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I prefer my gun being able to reload cancel, so yeah.
    Btw zaouli reload takes years even with max reload and im not using a loader for something the gun should do.

    • @imnotchikao6317
      @imnotchikao6317 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I can’t stand Bane’s reload animation too. It looks like I’m changing a limp dildo’s battery when you reload.

    • @EggyWeggyIII
      @EggyWeggyIII 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It’s like a fraction of a second slower than a max reload Luna’s I guarantee you don’t notice the actual time difference. What you do notice is the animation difference. It’s got an animation with slower appearing movements and more steps. It’s a psychological thing 100%.

  • @theef143
    @theef143 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Bro's whole argument for Luna's is based on the temporary artifact perks, so when that goes in just over 3 weeks what gives it the edge then?

  • @lazykb
    @lazykb 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I chose Forbearance

    • @DuqkD2
      @DuqkD2  28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      For me its the indebted kindness

  • @Palayedeuhm
    @Palayedeuhm 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have healclip incandescent but I still prefer zaoulis

  • @whosurjustin
    @whosurjustin 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    EP is an S tier perk because it scales very well with endgame content. Incandescent and Mag howl does not. Nothing you said in this vid suggests giving a "slight edge" to luna's howl.

    • @Minth_aaa
      @Minth_aaa 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Incandescent literally synergize with your abilities? How does it not scale well into higher tier content? It spawn sunspots on Titan, recharge your class ability with ember of singeing, Also spawn firesprites with another fragment I cannot think the name of.

    • @Samurai-xm2yn
      @Samurai-xm2yn 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      EP is great, but saying incandescent does not scale with end game content is pretty idiotic, especially when paired with heal clip.

    • @chrisborges7344
      @chrisborges7344 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Lol at Destiny players trying to use mmo terms. Neither of them have perks that do any form of scaling to the content.

    • @Samurai-xm2yn
      @Samurai-xm2yn 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@chrisborges7344 “scaling” isn’t an “mmo term”. It seems like you play every activity on the lowest difficulty if you don’t understand how a perk can lose potency at higher difficulty. Example: the onslaught perk is pretty useless in a GM.

    • @Chris-px7qf
      @Chris-px7qf 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​​@@Minth_aaa endgame mainly being gm; content perks that increase your damage for essentially doing nothing are much more valuable than perks like incan that requires you to get a kill. In which incan is considered good on zaoulis because it has ep on top of it. Overall ep and one for all on zaoulis would be better for gms because thats 2 damage perks without needing to kill anything. Whereas lunas both heal clip and incan both require a kill for you to get something out of the perk. No its not hard to get kills, but perks like incan doesnt make it any easier to kill things unlike ep, one for all, frenzy etc. When youre roughly 30 under power neutral perks have more value. It does at the end of the day come down more so to the build youre running, but generally neutral perks hold more value

  • @benhorner3518
    @benhorner3518 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Heal clip and incandescent best for easy content but zhaulis bane best for end game content debate endend

    • @azrazerz1445
      @azrazerz1445 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I’ll take a heal in endgame over a little extra damage any day. Out performed Zaoulis in Panth pretty noticeably

  • @goboyghost
    @goboyghost 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    No it cant

  • @JohnSmith-uf3yn
    @JohnSmith-uf3yn 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    If you think heal clip incandescent on Luna is the god roll for pve you’re a casual lmao

  • @sforsyth2911
    @sforsyth2911 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    1 word. Nope

  • @legendxcarisso
    @legendxcarisso 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Imma save you 4 minutes: NO. Zouli's Bane is superior to L.Howl in PvE. L.Howl superior in PvP. Overall, use whatever the fuck you want because mEtAaAaAa players kill fun for everyone else.

  • @hanknorris5642
    @hanknorris5642 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    No.

  • @adamboy0559
    @adamboy0559 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Zal is better no matter the argument. Lunas is a mid replacement if you can’t get zal

  • @DFH02
    @DFH02 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    No

  • @luvergod69
    @luvergod69 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Trash if it had a damage per in the 3rd column it would have been better

    • @nullandvoid7524
      @nullandvoid7524 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Explosive Payload doesn't make a difference in a vast majority of Content. And in content it matters I'm not using a Handcannon at all.

    • @EggyWeggyIII
      @EggyWeggyIII 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@nullandvoid7524you’re right about the second part. Why use a primary when my special weapons can do the same thing but better. but I would have to disagree with the first part. In the rare instances where I do use a primary, having the stagger and artificially extended range of explo is immensely helpful.

    • @darky1374
      @darky1374 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@nullandvoid7524 it does and y not? Hand cannon is one of the better legendary primaries nowadays..... If not the best, smg are ass in endgame, scouts take too long and is more of a passive playstyle, pulses is... Beyond ass, ar are fine but id use a hc over it, bows are good and versatile but i like the more aggressive playstyle with hcs even in sht like gms.

  • @luvergod69
    @luvergod69 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    No