It was pretty good. Kinda slow, I feel most of the stuff covered so far is kinda well known except for some of the Pippen stuff. I think it’s gonna get WAY better
mj had plans to leave the bulls and join another team. made a contract for X reason. MJ had a contract..he couldnt leave at that moment in time. have facts before trying to say something.
@@BrotherO4 bruh he won 6 for one organization, thats why he's the goat, im not even willing to put lebron in 2nd to mike, id put magic, kobe, and bird in that convo, because they weren't ring chasers. Now go ahead and tell me about how those three almost left. Keyword almost.
@@wuxiagamescentral I see where you're coming from... All I'm saying is LeBron helped medicore players seem like all-stars. He deserves some cred there
@@davidanderson1023 which player did he make better ill wait, last i checked kevin love carried an entire franchise before he came to cleveland so did bosh they both were turned into rebounders and spot up corner jump shooters. not to mention he had the best team in the league by far and still lost two championships with them one by a record margine, just saying. however having said that truth. he is an unbelivable great player but not who you guys make him to be.
@@michaelokon989 stop it now.. Why does LeBron need to be #1? I put him at #5 and there nothing wrong with that. Is it because he's from your generation? LeBron had a hard time playing 82 games a year in he's career. Most of the time he doesn't play defense.
@@darrellhardy90 the accuracy at the range was much worse very few players even had good percentages of 40 plus with just spot up shooting let alone making their own shot beyond the three point line. If they were making the shots coaches would let them.
Go onto MJs bio and stats and look at how many 82 games he played. Its amazing. He never took a night off and then played all the way through the playoff and finals. Amazing.
Glad this documentary refreshed Colin's memory cause I remember him trying to downplay Jordan's path to prop up the Jordan vs Lebron debate. All of us that grew up with watching Jordan in the 80s and 90s saw exactly why we all concretely say he's the best that will ever play the game. He played against tons of hall of famers and stacked teams and prevented so many greats from winning a championship. There's a reason Jordan shoes sell like hotcakes to this very day. The Jordan era when guys played hard every game is what we mean by old school. Much respect to that era who didn't make nearly as much these modern players but didn't need load management
Appreciated your take on this one Colin. I disagree with a lot of things you say on here, but it was refreshing to see you put Westbrook in a positive light and appreciate MJ's greatness. He had a tougher road more than people think. He's the GOAT.
@@apokolipslord6403 you are also 1 in 7 billion. In fact you're actually 1 in damn near infinity. Don't waste that kind of rarity debating petty things
Colin, in 97-98, pippen was missing for basically half a season and the Bulls still went 24-12. And it's not that Jordan couldn't carry the bulls to a great record without Pippen.... It's that team chemistry is so important and Pippen's job was the glue guy. You take that away and the team has to rediscover it's roles. Remember when 3 of the top 5 players in the league in Lebron, Wade, and Bosh were getting losses after losses? It certainly didn't have to do with talent.. they were loaded, but they took a while to figure out how to play together. That is amplified in a system where Jordan played off ball and Pippen took over the point role. There's all sorts of communication rotations and plays that need to be revamped.
That 98 Jazz 🎵 team beat the Hakeem/Drexler Rockets, Kobe/Shaq Lakers and Duncan/Robinson Spurs to get to the finals. MJ beat them almost single handedly 💯
lol those kobe/shaq lakers didn't have phil and weren't close to championship level, also that was a rookie duncan in the playoffs. Relax and he def didn't beat anyone single handedly did you not watch this last night? When scottie was out he struggled, never won anything without him.
It would have been amazing to see the Bulls come back in 99 and then you would have had Jordan’s Bulls vs Duncan/David Robinsons Spurs. That finals would have been great
the reason why people wanna debate Lebron to MJ especially THESE days is ONLY because Lebron is sort of a best player over the last 10 years. thats it. BUT. He is not even close to MJ's greatness. Thats just the truth, NO MATTER how you look at it. He will NEVER be better than MJ
I agree, LeBron's finals record totally ruins it for me. He can't be the GOAT at 3-6 or 4-6. LeBron needed 6-0 or 6-1 or something to be in GOAT conversation.
@@NANOTECHYT The 2011 finals ruin it for Lebron in my opinion Jordan lost playoff series too the difference was Jordan never lost because he was terrible. Lebron did in the 2011 finals series
ChiRilla no. 1. Because Jordan had zero help until pippen. Once he got help he never lost again until 95 when he played 16 regular season games. He was out of the game 2 years. Then came back and won 3 more straight. Lebron lost with a lot of help 6 out of 9 finals. Jordan never lost with another all star on his team. 2. Jordan never was the reason the bulls lost. He always lit it up. Lebron was the REASON the heat lost in 2011.
@@joeledwards243 Could not have said it any better you are so on point with your statement I remember Lebron James against the Dallas Maverick letting J.J Barea and Jason Terry out play him being at the time already a 2 time MVP player also not to forget playing along side two order All Star future Hall of Famers In their prime Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh on a heavy favorite Miami Heat team in one game LeBron James was only able to score 8 points and there were other games where he could not even score 20 points so miss me with the bulshit he has lost the argument to be called the goat years ago and that's the separation between him and Michael Jordan whole teams could not stop MJ
@georgeport please refer to 9:51 of this video... people in much worse situations than you and they do something about their lives... p.s. I dont care what you do or have done so eh... fyi I'm a millenial.... piece :^)
Thank you ESPN, finally putting an end to the 'LeBron = GOAT' heresy. Thank you for opening Colin's eyes to the greatness. The MT. Rushmore of Basketball is carvings of Magic, Wilt, LeBron, and whoever in stone. But, they are always just carvings. Michael Jordan is the Mount itself and everyone else will be compared to his Greatness!
@@maxsteele4555 It's a lost cause on purpose. I love Skip and Shannon, but a large part of their show is SO stupid and tired. They purposely takes opposing sides on just about every topic and then pretend to fight. If Skip and Shannon would tone down that gimmicky aspect of the show they'd have the best show by far. It's ok to both agree and disagree.
__ yea when they were at their best was the first few episodes they did at home, without a moderator it was literally a chill podcast where they agreed and disagreed on stuff, but now that it’s back to the normal setup it’s gone back to the meaning less disagreements
Keith Sullivan..I agree. Larry should be in that debate. Sadly, due to his injuries his prime was cut short.. but prime for prime I'd still take Larry over LeBron if I was building a team. LeBron's longevity is incredible but if I wanted to win a game give me Larry. MJ is the GOAT in my opinion but I don't think #2 is a lock and if people disagree about MJ I understand. Way too many greats get dismissed with these type of debates.
We don't debate MJ & Lebron, STANS do. Many of us have Kareem, Wilt, Russell, and Kobe (or others) somewhere ahead of Lebron in different orders. No 3-6 Stat monster is in ANY competition for GOAT. Nobody being outplayed by Jason Terry in a Finals has a chance. A person who quit in his second Sweep Finals with 4:03 on the clock has NO chance. Lebron is great, but GOAT he is not.
Lebron has made every team he's gone to a contender. People don't understand that Jordan had professionals playing along side him while LeBron had a bunch that should have never been in the NBA. Give Jordan the same talent level and he would be with no titles. The NBA has better athletes now but many lack consistency.
Kobe was the man... But by no measurable or quantifiable measurement could you say Kobe was better, other than titles, which often times has a lot more to do with surrounding cast and coaching. Ppg, rebounds, assists, fg%, 3pt%, PER, regular season AND finals MVPs... All in LeBrons favor.
yeah, but michael was heavily underpaid in the nba, until his final 2 seasons with the bulls where he made 33 million and 36 million to make up for being heavily underpaid. prior to those 2 years, he made about 70-80% of his money through his sneakers and big endorsement deals.
It's pretty much just you media guys that debate mj or LeBron, just like y'all did with Kobe and mj in his day btw. most NBA fans know LeBron is MAYBE top 10 not even close to HIS AIRNESS
@@danielabraham5901 dull head lol that's a funny word. I'm going to start saying that lol. It's just my opinion lebron Is a top 3 talent of all time without a doubt, I wouldn't want him on my all time team just bcuz he never learned to play within a system. Also, he would probably get my coach fired lol.
I enjoyed the part about Pippen going to UCA and not making the team at first, being the equipment manager, then asking for a scholarship when a few players washed out. Really powerful message there. I could see how the common thread is there for him and MJ to fit together.
Yes. With smart load management, he probably gets an extra 4 cracks at #7. I don’t give a damn that he played 82 for however many seasons. The regular season is meaningless and the “kawhi method” maximizes your number of chances at a championship without materially sacrificing the your chances on each title attempt
James tyson lol. He trained for baseball then had to train again for basketball. I think he did more harm than good for his body. Did really well for his mind though. His dad was murdered which was what lead him to retire the first time.
This is probably the best Herd. This is why I like him. He is honest and capable of humility. Todays league is like todays society, soft, not willing to work hard or do a good job when faced with challenges, entitled, poor attitudes and generally no morals.
The reason we don't debate MJ and Bird or MJ and Kareem or such but we do with Lebron is because Lebron is still making his legacy. While Kobe was playing all the headlines were "Is Kobe Better than MJ" "GOAT Debate MJ vs Kobe" once Lebron retires those talks will go away and you will get something like "Is Giannis Antetokounmpo better than MJ" thats just the way it goes, the only person never changing in these debates is MJ because MJ is the GOAT.
Magic is in the same bracket as LBJ. Bird and Kobe right behind. If you ask me, a gen X fan who has watched them all. Jordan probably #1, although I don’t love the legacy he left behind
Just stop hating bron. He's just a man. U think it's funny dont ya ... Feel good to hate huh? He just plays ball. He tryna win just like Jordan tried. Get over it
Kobe is the closest thing we'll get to Jordan. LeBron isn't even in that conversation, no matter how many Millennials try to push that narrative. Michael had the "flu game". LeBron had the "cramp game" in San Antonio. They are literally world's apart in terms of character and drive. LeBron is the weakest in the game's biggest moments. Kobe and Jordan were killers.
Kobe is the closest to Jordan as far as play style but it’s hard to say he’s better at the game of basketball than Lebron. LeBron just does more things for me.
LeBron is behind MJ and Kareem. And the doc is great, how can you say it’s bad? Oh wait, nevermind, it’s because Fox sports isn’t the network that made it.
To be fair, the Chicago Sting had Karl Heinz-Granitza. He was a legend in the Chicago area with soccer fans. That was before the Bears won the Super Bowl and definitely before Michael.
I was thinking the same thing about Westbrook and I'm shocked that Colin is the one saying it!! I respect this man, I love Westbrook so typically I hear this man talkin trash on him
What did you think of the first two episodes of “The Last Dance”?
1st
Man. This is my hero. I loved every minute I watched.
It was pretty good. Kinda slow, I feel most of the stuff covered so far is kinda well known except for some of the Pippen stuff. I think it’s gonna get WAY better
The Herd with Colin Cowherd I think a new generation of kids will be influenced by this in the way they approach the game and practice
This is the Best Colin take of 2020.
Great commentary, people need to get over "mean tweets" (shots at KD?) This is excellent.
It took a Michael Jordan documentary for Colin to finally say he respects Westbrook 🤦🏻♂️😂
170 likes no comments this was the truth lol
Literally the best take Colin has ever had in his career.
I just posted the same.
Could not agree more 👍🏼
I agree. Actually gave me goosebumps
Facts
Exactly what I was thinking as I watched this. It’s uncanny. Lol
Thank you Michael J for all those great memories. An absolute Legend!
Thing is when everything goes rough,
MJ went to the gym, Lebron went to another team.
shucks yoo this is the realest statement ive heard in awhile
mj had plans to leave the bulls and join another team.
made a contract for X reason.
MJ had a contract..he couldnt leave at that moment in time.
have facts before trying to say something.
and Lebron still lost. Lmao
And that sums up Lebrons' career. Good comment.
@@BrotherO4 bruh he won 6 for one organization, thats why he's the goat, im not even willing to put lebron in 2nd to mike, id put magic, kobe, and bird in that convo, because they weren't ring chasers. Now go ahead and tell me about how those three almost left. Keyword almost.
I get goosebumps back then and today every time I hear The Chicago Bulls intro music & announcer and I’m a 34 yrs Warriors fan 🐐
He gave Westbrook his due?👀 is this a fake video ??
This Pandemic changed a lot
😂
I agree
It truly is the end of the world.
He kinda play like a young MJ
MJ is the Goat been saying this forever
Jake Grado hahaha like it’s such an unheard of opinion 😂
Jake Grado nah, it’s Chamberlain
Lebron > MJ
@@808bboarder MJ > LeBron
MJ makes today's stars look soft as pudding.
soft as fresh stinking turds
@@LovingTinha soft as turds from someone who only eats pudding
They just are.
Soft that coward made the papers when the Pistons gave Mj punkasz that work.foh
Luke Crompton then there’s Westbrook
Jordan needed Robin, but LeBron needed Justice League. That's the difference between Jordan and LeBron
Delly, Tristan Thompson, and JR are justice league now... Huh
@@davidanderson1023 Miami: Ray Allen, Dwayne Wade, Bosh, Cleveland: Kevin Love, Kyrie, Tristan Thompson (you clown him but he's a beast defender)
@@wuxiagamescentral I see where you're coming from... All I'm saying is LeBron helped medicore players seem like all-stars. He deserves some cred there
@@davidanderson1023 which player did he make better ill wait, last i checked kevin love carried an entire franchise before he came to cleveland so did bosh they both were turned into rebounders and spot up corner jump shooters. not to mention he had the best team in the league by far and still lost two championships with them one by a record margine, just saying. however having said that truth. he is an unbelivable great player but not who you guys make him to be.
@@andrewbobb7659 shumpert.
I don’t know why anyone is compared to mj. Mj played during a physical and defensive era.
oSo_KewL WIT_IT not really Refs just didn’t call fouls as much
And Lebron played against guys with unlimited range freaks of nature such as steph curry, Giannis and Kevin durant
@@michaelokon989 stop it now.. Why does LeBron need to be #1? I put him at #5 and there nothing wrong with that. Is it because he's from your generation? LeBron had a hard time playing 82 games a year in he's career. Most of the time he doesn't play defense.
@@michaelokon989 players had range, it wasnt accepted back then to throw up a 35 foot shot. Coach would've benched you
@@darrellhardy90 the accuracy at the range was much worse very few players even had good percentages of 40 plus with just spot up shooting let alone making their own shot beyond the three point line. If they were making the shots coaches would let them.
Go onto MJs bio and stats and look at how many 82 games he played. Its amazing. He never took a night off and then played all the way through the playoff and finals. Amazing.
He only takes years off!
Did Colin hit his head? He is actually speaking like a sane person today.
0 divorce analogies...I was surprised.
"C-cuz somebody sent ya - a mean tweet eeheheheheheheh"! 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
About damn time! Westbrook is a stone cold killer.
Yes, finally said something good about Russ
Call me Dante He has before. Y’all just didn’t catch it.
Ive played a few poker sessions with Westbrook in Vegas and LA.
jon mulvihill can’t close tho 🤷🏾♂️
I honestly believe if the 2012 OKC Thunder has stayed together they would have at least gotten a championship out in the last few years
Glad this documentary refreshed Colin's memory cause I remember him trying to downplay Jordan's path to prop up the Jordan vs Lebron debate. All of us that grew up with watching Jordan in the 80s and 90s saw exactly why we all concretely say he's the best that will ever play the game. He played against tons of hall of famers and stacked teams and prevented so many greats from winning a championship. There's a reason Jordan shoes sell like hotcakes to this very day. The Jordan era when guys played hard every game is what we mean by old school. Much respect to that era who didn't make nearly as much these modern players but didn't need load management
Appreciated your take on this one Colin. I disagree with a lot of things you say on here, but it was refreshing to see you put Westbrook in a positive light and appreciate MJ's greatness. He had a tougher road more than people think. He's the GOAT.
Michael is better than Lebron, thats not a knock to be #2
Mind of the North Star 😂🥳
@Mind of the North Star hold this L
@Mind of the North Star stop
@I Am King hahahhahahahaha
#3. I put Kobe ahead of LeBron by a lot.
There is no need to compare, MJ is the only one GOD of NBA.
Yes kids out there, JUST DEAL WITH IT!
That's the best take thus far on the documentary. Thank you Colin.
This is probably the best I’ve seen from this guy.
The truth came out at the right time, now deal with it young fellas. He’s one in a million.
1 in 7 billion*
@@AxelPRC not even close. to get to that statistic you would have to have everyone on earth go through an nba career.
@@apokolipslord6403 you are also 1 in 7 billion. In fact you're actually 1 in damn near infinity. Don't waste that kind of rarity debating petty things
MJ: True Goat.
Colin man... i love you man for being honest this time with MJ and Westbrook! Good on you man!
Colin, in 97-98, pippen was missing for basically half a season and the Bulls still went 24-12. And it's not that Jordan couldn't carry the bulls to a great record without Pippen.... It's that team chemistry is so important and Pippen's job was the glue guy. You take that away and the team has to rediscover it's roles. Remember when 3 of the top 5 players in the league in Lebron, Wade, and Bosh were getting losses after losses? It certainly didn't have to do with talent.. they were loaded, but they took a while to figure out how to play together. That is amplified in a system where Jordan played off ball and Pippen took over the point role. There's all sorts of communication rotations and plays that need to be revamped.
That 98 Jazz 🎵 team beat the Hakeem/Drexler Rockets, Kobe/Shaq Lakers and Duncan/Robinson Spurs to get to the finals. MJ beat them almost single handedly 💯
That's an amazing resume and it proves how disrespected that Jazz team is.
lol those kobe/shaq lakers didn't have phil and weren't close to championship level, also that was a rookie duncan in the playoffs. Relax and he def didn't beat anyone single handedly did you not watch this last night? When scottie was out he struggled, never won anything without him.
That Rockets team was no joke either.
Yiup Duncan in his second year and Hakeem couldn’t beat anyone
It would have been amazing to see the Bulls come back in 99 and then you would have had Jordan’s Bulls vs Duncan/David Robinsons Spurs. That finals would have been great
Anyone who made the Last Dance episodes is a genius. Colin suddenly come to his senses for a second I thought it is the end of the world
MJ is easily the Goat!
the reason why people wanna debate Lebron to MJ especially THESE days is ONLY because Lebron is sort of a best player over the last 10 years. thats it. BUT. He is not even close to MJ's greatness. Thats just the truth, NO MATTER how you look at it. He will NEVER be better than MJ
UltraWideGameplayVideos Lebron dragged BUMS to the finals for years, Jordan may be the best, but this automatic stuff is ridiculous.
@@sandmanlogan5ran149 That does NOT make him the GOAT. for fu** sake
Have we forgotten how bad the east was?
I could grab four kids from the local high school jv team and make a playoff run in the east.
UltraWideGameplayVideos thank you! It’s like getting a participation medal for being in the finals counts 😂
@@ASilentGuardian you're right.. It's kareem..
We only debate MJ and LeBron because there is a generation that doesnt know what MJ was capable of
Now they do.
Nah is because its lbj is the greatest of this generation and mike was greatest of his generation. Lets be real.
I got wilt at #1
No disrespect
@@natecake8024 I cant really argue with that, was born in the mid 80's so I didnt see him play much if at all
Kobe Bean Bryant is easily 2nd and the most disrespected player in history.
Love Kobe but sorry not better than Kareem, LeBron, Wilt, Magic, Bird and maybe not even The Dream. Much respect though I miss him too!
@@bushidobrown9706 yup, Kobe was awesome but you're exactly right. Too many other greats.
When lebron retires and someone new comes along . . . It will be him vs MJ
Yep, sir you are absolutely correct. 👍
that's where you're gonna be wrong. Nobody's gonna talk about Lebron.
@@accountingsapayag that was my point
I agree, LeBron's finals record totally ruins it for me. He can't be the GOAT at 3-6 or 4-6. LeBron needed 6-0 or 6-1 or something to be in GOAT conversation.
@@NANOTECHYT The 2011 finals ruin it for Lebron in my opinion Jordan lost playoff series too the difference was Jordan never lost because he was terrible. Lebron did in the 2011 finals series
It was epic, loved every moment of it
Shaun G Official very well done. Lots of footage I have never seen before
And it’s just getting started
Yes.. i knew Jordan Pip and Phil had issues with Jerry krause back in the day but the disrespect Jordan had against Jerry was suprising.
Why is this a debate anymore Lebron is no where near to Jordan. When he lost his 5th Chip he was out of the conversation for me a long time ago
So Mike losing before 91 and in 95 to magic don't matter?
Who is behind mj? Pls dont say the adult child allen iverson.
ChiRilla no. 1. Because Jordan had zero help until pippen. Once he got help he never lost again until 95 when he played 16 regular season games. He was out of the game 2 years. Then came back and won 3 more straight. Lebron lost with a lot of help 6 out of 9 finals. Jordan never lost with another all star on his team. 2. Jordan never was the reason the bulls lost. He always lit it up. Lebron was the REASON the heat lost in 2011.
When he choked in the Dallas series that was it for me. Jordan would and never did that
@@joeledwards243 Could not have said it any better you are so on point with your statement I remember Lebron James against the Dallas Maverick letting J.J Barea and Jason Terry out play him being at the time already a 2 time MVP player also not to forget playing along side two order All Star future Hall of Famers In their prime Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh on a heavy favorite Miami Heat team in one game LeBron James was only able to score 8 points and there were other games where he could not even score 20 points so miss me with the bulshit he has lost the argument to be called the goat years ago and that's the separation between him and Michael Jordan whole teams could not stop MJ
MJ broke his foot and still found a way to get better quicker and sneak and play basketball
A message to today's youth that complain about obstacles
9:51
K
Great message
I was a born without legs, and I still work hard to become the best NFL punter the world has ever seen.
Good stuff boomer boy, thanks for leaving us an economic mess 👍I know people with PHDs who cant afford houses in ottawa.
@georgeport please refer to 9:51 of this video... people in much worse situations than you and they do something about their lives... p.s. I dont care what you do or have done so eh... fyi I'm a millenial.... piece :^)
Finally old school Colin with a great take! Why all radio personalities are killin it in Quarantine time lol
Greatest EVER.
Who's the Goat? Ray Allen: MJ, Dwayne Wade: MJ, Steph Curry: MJ, Kevin Durant: MJ, Larry Bird: MJ, Reggie Miller: MJ, Allen Iverson: MJ, .....
Preach!
LeBron
LeBron: Me
UnhingedToker : lebron . UnhingeTOKER THE GREATS HAVE SPOKEN. Lebron trash
Andre Riter nah Bron calls MJ the goat to, the media just try’s to debate James over Jordan.
Best Colin’ segment I’ve ever heard
How can u not love MJ man. He a winner!
Thank you ESPN, finally putting an end to the 'LeBron = GOAT' heresy. Thank you for opening Colin's eyes to the greatness. The MT. Rushmore of Basketball is carvings of Magic, Wilt, LeBron, and whoever in stone. But, they are always just carvings. Michael Jordan is the Mount itself and everyone else will be compared to his Greatness!
Life is hard. Deal with it. I needed that one my boy
These young lebron fans are about to learn a little about who Michael Jordan is.
Michael Jordan was great, bron is better
BriBriBros Kareem better then Lebron lol
Deandre Ray that's just false
Ahh you’re that grumpy old guy where everything was better “back in my day”
Kyle Campion Yup. He is. These old dudes that think everything back was better are usually terrible people.
Hope KD watches this.
And that clown Kyrie
KD said he was going to watch it in real time with the masses. I'm sure he did watch it he's a huge MJ fan
@@anajohnson6686 he did. He said MJ would be the best in this era
He'd probably pout at the Twitter part lol
He wanted to see what real chips look like
This is the best video you’ve put out. Thank you.
Colin, thank you. You legit helped me rediscover a side of myself I had lost.
what they don't realize is that whenever any other NBA player reaches that level, Lebron will not be in that conversation just as Kobe is not today...
Colin is spot on today
First time I've totally agreed with Colin!
Now go and open Shannon's eyes cause he's still blind.
Lost cause.
@@maxsteele4555 I agree. Count Nick Wright and Ryan Hollins on that group too.
@@maxsteele4555 It's a lost cause on purpose. I love Skip and Shannon, but a large part of their show is SO stupid and tired.
They purposely takes opposing sides on just about every topic and then pretend to fight.
If Skip and Shannon would tone down that gimmicky aspect of the show they'd have the best show by far.
It's ok to both agree and disagree.
__ yea when they were at their best was the first few episodes they did at home, without a moderator it was literally a chill podcast where they agreed and disagreed on stuff, but now that it’s back to the normal setup it’s gone back to the meaning less disagreements
@@hankyunghyun add Jay Williams too
What strange times we live in. Everyone’s a MJ fan now lol
I don't no why you feel that way but I definitely don't see that.
Everyone always has been?
Dude never knew everyone wasnt
The fact that you don't include Larry Bird in the GOAT debate just shows your lack of understanding pure basketball as it should be played.
Keith Sullivan..I agree. Larry should be in that debate. Sadly, due to his injuries his prime was cut short.. but prime for prime I'd still take Larry over LeBron if I was building a team. LeBron's longevity is incredible but if I wanted to win a game give me Larry. MJ is the GOAT in my opinion but I don't think #2 is a lock and if people disagree about MJ I understand. Way too many greats get dismissed with these type of debates.
Colin is talking about LeBron “why is it so hard!”
Facts
More so KD I think. Lebron whines on the court occasionally but KD is the twitter finger GOAT
Obstacles that’s called life great people come through it with a glow and shine through
KD and Kyrie listen up. Kawhi you too bro! Smfh
Only the media say Jordan vs Lebron.
Darn it Colin....that was a mean honest dabble ive heared you do.
Good one....
Jordan is better to watch, is cooler, is a better scorer, better defender and has 6-0 Finals record.
And has better shoes. Lol
We don't debate MJ & Lebron, STANS do. Many of us have Kareem, Wilt, Russell, and Kobe (or others) somewhere ahead of Lebron in different orders. No 3-6 Stat monster is in ANY competition for GOAT. Nobody being outplayed by Jason Terry in a Finals has a chance. A person who quit in his second Sweep Finals with 4:03 on the clock has NO chance. Lebron is great, but GOAT he is not.
no one who has "TOP 10 FLOPS of his career" videos should be in any GOAT conversation
Hakeem
Lebron has made every team he's gone to a contender. People don't understand that Jordan had professionals playing along side him while LeBron had a bunch that should have never been in the NBA. Give Jordan the same talent level and he would be with no titles. The NBA has better athletes now but many lack consistency.
MJ - Batman
Pip - Robin
Phil - Alfred
Rodman - Catwoman
Cant wait for next week 😭😭😭
Honestly still think Kobe was greater than Lebron. 100%.
I agree!! Again taking nothing from Lebron he's a beast in his own right! We are entitled to our opinion like every one.
Facts. MJ, Kobe, then bron
No need to think he is better# kobe for life
Kobe was the man... But by no measurable or quantifiable measurement could you say Kobe was better, other than titles, which often times has a lot more to do with surrounding cast and coaching. Ppg, rebounds, assists, fg%, 3pt%, PER, regular season AND finals MVPs... All in LeBrons favor.
Empower Me Fitness facts
100% agree!
It wasn’t Jordan that signed the bad deal that was Pippen. Jordan was savvy when it came to contracts
yeah, but michael was heavily underpaid in the nba, until his final 2 seasons with the bulls where he made 33 million and 36 million to make up for being heavily underpaid. prior to those 2 years, he made about 70-80% of his money through his sneakers and big endorsement deals.
Wow. I actually agree with him.
Westbrook. Watch him play and give him the respect he deserves.
Absolutely outstanding takes, Colin. Well done.
It's pretty much just you media guys that debate mj or LeBron, just like y'all did with Kobe and mj in his day btw. most NBA fans know LeBron is MAYBE top 10 not even close to HIS AIRNESS
MAYBE Top 10. Wow. You are a dull head! Lebron is top 2 ATLEAST!
@@danielabraham5901 dull head lol that's a funny word. I'm going to start saying that lol. It's just my opinion lebron Is a top 3 talent of all time without a doubt, I wouldn't want him on my all time team just bcuz he never learned to play within a system. Also, he would probably get my coach fired lol.
I'm 30 and it's gotta take a documentary for ppl to change their minds🤦♂️🤦♂️still proud of you of Colin 😄😄
Can you Imagine if Jordan joined super teams after the bulls era
Jordan IS a super team... all by himself..
Did y'all not watch the first 2 episodes. Scottie was a top 3 player in nba. Is that not a superteam. Cuz Mike definitely didn't win with scottie
I enjoyed the part about Pippen going to UCA and not making the team at first, being the equipment manager, then asking for a scholarship when a few players washed out. Really powerful message there. I could see how the common thread is there for him and MJ to fit together.
I love you for this, Colin
The will to win, despite the disrespectful front office.
Can you imagine Michael load managing lol.
Lol right!? He won’t even chill for a minute during practice. MJ is a beast all the time lol.
Yes. With smart load management, he probably gets an extra 4 cracks at #7. I don’t give a damn that he played 82 for however many seasons. The regular season is meaningless and the “kawhi method” maximizes your number of chances at a championship without materially sacrificing the your chances on each title attempt
Yeah he Retired Twice!!! MJ started load management. Scottie never retired early!!!
James tyson lol. He trained for baseball then had to train again for basketball. I think he did more harm than good for his body. Did really well for his mind though. His dad was murdered which was what lead him to retire the first time.
Lung Ming exactly lol. He also was being hounded by the Bad boy pistons.
Phil balanced the Bulls and Lakers.2 chaotic situations.
This is probably the best Herd. This is why I like him. He is honest and capable of humility. Todays league is like todays society, soft, not willing to work hard or do a good job when faced with challenges, entitled, poor attitudes and generally no morals.
Thank you Colin for giving Westbrook his due
The reason we don't debate MJ and Bird or MJ and Kareem or such but we do with Lebron is because Lebron is still making his legacy. While Kobe was playing all the headlines were "Is Kobe Better than MJ" "GOAT Debate MJ vs Kobe" once Lebron retires those talks will go away and you will get something like "Is Giannis Antetokounmpo better than MJ" thats just the way it goes, the only person never changing in these debates is MJ because MJ is the GOAT.
Best 10min of Colin ever
I'VE HAD CHAIRS THROWN AT ME
😂😂😂😂
Awesome, thank you colin
Best take of Collins career. Best take on the show last night. Well done sir!
Thanks Colins for your broadcasting. I agree, Jordan is the best.
Great take Colin
I still got Magic and Kobe AND Bird ahead of LLLLLLebron (that’s 6 L’s)
Magic is in the same bracket as LBJ. Bird and Kobe right behind. If you ask me, a gen X fan who has watched them all. Jordan probably #1, although I don’t love the legacy he left behind
m Khan I’d put Kobe ahead of LeBron but aside from that your list looks Legit. I’d have Magic at number 2 tho
m Khan You’re funny
Josh Ringer you too
Just stop hating bron. He's just a man. U think it's funny dont ya ... Feel good to hate huh? He just plays ball. He tryna win just like Jordan tried. Get over it
very inspire show, great job
Colin, that was very well said.
KOBE HAS HIS OWN CLASS
Kobe is the closest thing we'll get to Jordan. LeBron isn't even in that conversation, no matter how many Millennials try to push that narrative. Michael had the "flu game". LeBron had the "cramp game" in San Antonio. They are literally world's apart in terms of character and drive. LeBron is the weakest in the game's biggest moments. Kobe and Jordan were killers.
Kobe is the closest to Jordan as far as play style but it’s hard to say he’s better at the game of basketball than Lebron. LeBron just does more things for me.
Millennials are dumb scumbags.
scalping forever older people said the same thing about your generation. And I will say the same about the next generation.
Like MJ, LeBron never played second fiddle.
@@jorgeeduardodussanvillanue46 Wrong. LeBron looked to pass with the game on the line. Jordan and Kobe took the final shot. Research.
People forget though that Phil Jackson was an assistant coach on the Bulls when Michael was playing and that he helped make Pippen who he was.
Colin spittin facts!
Uncle Colin sitting us all down and talking life to us is the best Colin >>>
Kareem is better than LeBron.
Magic was too.
Bird too
Kobe too
Bill Russell too
LeBron is top 5 or 6.
Tim duncan as well
Pippen too
One of Colin Cowherd's best takes ever. Think binary. Not linear. You can love both MJ and LeBron without bringing one of them down.
LeBron is behind MJ and Kareem. And the doc is great, how can you say it’s bad? Oh wait, nevermind, it’s because Fox sports isn’t the network that made it.
To be fair, the Chicago Sting had Karl Heinz-Granitza. He was a legend in the Chicago area with soccer fans. That was before the Bears won the Super Bowl and definitely before Michael.
Colin at his best! Love it!
Lol Colin is in his bag today 💼 😂
Real talk Colin
I was thinking the same thing about Westbrook and I'm shocked that Colin is the one saying it!! I respect this man, I love Westbrook so typically I hear this man talkin trash on him