The Rise & Fall of the Sega Saturn - Why Did it Fail? - Gaming History Documentary

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  • In today's video, we look at the rise and fall of the Sega Saturn. Let's look at how everything went wrong for this beloved system. #Sega #SegaSaturn #gaminghistory
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  • @LadyDecade
    @LadyDecade  2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Here is a link to the video on Frinton On Sea that I covered in my outro, enjoy! - th-cam.com/video/6_DTvnDbtzY/w-d-xo.html&t

    • @SEABASSTHEGREAT
      @SEABASSTHEGREAT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      1 minute 36-37 second mark on the link. Y’all are welcome

    • @markjenniferwolkotte8221
      @markjenniferwolkotte8221 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As much as I loved Sega and still do. For them it simply was "Gome Over"!

    • @greenkoopa
      @greenkoopa 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SEABASSTHEGREAT Señor Velez 🤔 try this 01:37

    • @greenkoopa
      @greenkoopa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@markjenniferwolkotte8221 Bimmy and Jimmy

    • @SEABASSTHEGREAT
      @SEABASSTHEGREAT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@greenkoopa no no. The aforementioned link in the top of this comment

  • @Sea0tter
    @Sea0tter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I bought my Saturn in 1997, I seem to remember being surprised when it got axed soon after. By that point it had a pretty good roster of games. Still sits under my TV today.

    • @AndysInfamousArcade
      @AndysInfamousArcade 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Smart guy☝️

    • @JoeMoore413
      @JoeMoore413 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wanna sell it lol

    • @BobbyHo2022
      @BobbyHo2022 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Happened to me w the 32x, the saturn, and the dreamcast. I'm an idiot.

  • @DarkArtistKaiser
    @DarkArtistKaiser 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I've watched countless videos about Sonic and Sega and all its failures.
    And virtually EVERY failure starts with "And then Sega of Japan..."
    It was no short miracle that Sega survived the turn of the millennia...too bad they learned nothing.

    • @hayasher
      @hayasher ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yakuza

  • @tgheretford
    @tgheretford 2 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    Sega of Japan's management style is a textbook example of the phrase "pride before a fall".

    • @retromemories8522
      @retromemories8522 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      The landscape could be very different had there not been so much in-fighting.

    • @jsttv
      @jsttv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Exactly.

    • @ShadowArtist
      @ShadowArtist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Bernie Stolar took over as CEO of Sega of America, he pushed a policy/idea that "RPGs and 2-D games don't sell" he refused to release the 2Meg and 4meg ram expansion carts needed for the near-perfect amazing Capcom and SNK fighting games, so those popular arcade games couldn't be localized, long delays and intial refusal to support or do US localization of any RPGs (a few did much later). he infamously said "Saturn is not our future" killing third party developer confidence in the console. then Final Fantasy 7's success proved Stolar wrong!
      So Stolar was a HUGE factor of why the Saturn did poorly (along with sub-par 3rd party support in the US)

    • @jsttv
      @jsttv 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ShadowArtist Exactly. Before he took over Sega, he was w/Sony.

    • @asaviklund9414
      @asaviklund9414 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Big time

  • @wondiefive
    @wondiefive 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The Saturn was the last console my parents bought me, before I started buying my own. I felt played when the popularity for the Saturn died, and I was one of 4 people that gave a dayum about it in high school. I still had love for it to buy Saturn games long after its life cycle. Now, I'm proud of the collection I've amassed over the years. Games that I bought for 10 to 30 bucks, are now in the hundreds!

    • @AndysInfamousArcade
      @AndysInfamousArcade 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Now you know you were one of the lucky few!

    • @wondiefive
      @wondiefive 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AndysInfamousArcade Yes indeedy! 😁

    • @EOTA564
      @EOTA564 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I must have worked on my parents for a whole 18 months and finally my dreams came true on Christmas Day 1995.
      I have mixed feelings about choosing the Saturn over the PS1 and N64. It may have been short lived but for 2 years it gave me some of my best gaming memories.
      The blow was somewhat softened due to my growing interest in the RTS genre which was going through a golden age in the late 90s. I had almost completely abandoned my Saturn by 1998 and was investing all my time in StarCraft and Total Annihilation and so sadly barely noticed it’s demise.
      The only time I noticed was when I played the N64 at my friends’ and we had a blast playing Goldeneye and Mario Kart. We did have some fun playing Guardian Heroes a couple of times.

  • @houseoftheted637
    @houseoftheted637 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    The story of the Saturn is one I've heard many times, but never get bored of. Excellent video as always 😎👍👌👌👌

  • @kaox44
    @kaox44 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "Frinton on Sea, we don't even allow buses at the gate" LOL!

  • @brichan1851
    @brichan1851 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I loved my Saturn. I never should have gotten rid of it. It was the perfect system for importing fighting games and shooters like Radiant Silver Gun. Just needed to be marketed properly and a stronger focus on 3D games.
    If SEGA of Japan could’ve just gotten over their egos because SEGA of America found success where they failed, we may still be playing SEGA consoles.
    As always, another brilliant video from Madame Decade! You are an unbelievable talent.

    • @brichan1851
      @brichan1851 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@matt8264 man! I miss my Dreamcast.

    • @johnnopeyy4129
      @johnnopeyy4129 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Saturn was VERY complicated to code for, especially in 3D.

    • @brichan1851
      @brichan1851 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@johnnopeyy4129 yeah, that’s true. But some companies managed it and did really well. Look at Virtua Fighter 2, Dead or Alive, Fighting Vipers, Nights Into Dreams, House of the Dead, the Panzer Dragoon series, Daytona USA…
      Granted, most of these games are Sega. Dead or Alive is Tecmo, but it’s built on the same engine as Virtua Fighter 2. Radiant Silvergun still looks good to this day. Tomb Raider was good on the system. Resident Evil was good. Doom, Quake.
      All I’m saying is that 3D games were possible on the Saturn. They were often pretty well done.

  • @jimpatterson1111
    @jimpatterson1111 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    You and the Gaming Historian should do something together. Even a live feed discussion walking viewers through your processes. Also, it’s unfortunate that Sega didn’t lean into Super Scaling vs 3D polygon graphics. Just reference how the Neo Geo AES is so fondly remembered.

    • @greenkoopa
      @greenkoopa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think a collaboration with THGM would be her very first crossover. But really she doesn't need any crossovers in my humble opinion, her channel has been strong since she had 5.8k followers.

    • @ostiariusalpha
      @ostiariusalpha 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The AES is fondly remembered, but it didn't sell particularly well. There are far more 2D scaling games on the Saturn than there were on the PlayStation, by the way.

    • @jimpatterson1111
      @jimpatterson1111 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@greenkoopa Yes, I do agree. I’m thinking of a “one off”.

    • @BobbyHo2022
      @BobbyHo2022 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Forget Top Hat. Gaming Historian and this chick should make gaming history together.

  • @mattm7798
    @mattm7798 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I really think if the Saturn had been developed as 3d powerhouse like the PS1 from the get go, that alone could have undone all the other mistakes in this video because it would have been easier to develop for(in theory) and thus had a longer lifespan as 3D was the new norm.
    Sega could have reduced the cost of the console to compete directly with the PS1 and being easier to develop for means more quality games faster.
    The sad thing is the Dreamcast could have been a huge comeback had they delayed launch until around the PS2 release date, thus alowing the console to also be a dvd player, which is hard to understate how big that was in 2000. DVD players were still a hot product and having your gaming console double as a dvd player was a massive selling point.

  • @tgheretford
    @tgheretford 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Something else to add is the decision to use quadrilaterals instead of polygons to make up 3D objects in the Saturn's VDP1 graphics processor. A wise decision in the early 90s when computing power was limited and quads had a lower cost compared to polys (1 quad instead of 2 polys). However that quickly became irrelevant with increasing processing power and everyone went toward easier to use polygons. It made converting games to the Saturn even more complex and caused issues with transparencies which GameHut explained on his channel covering Sonic R.
    In some ways, a dual processor system made the Saturn a console ahead of its time and criminally under-rated.

    • @jetfrog4574
      @jetfrog4574 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry, I know this is nitpicky but quads are polygons, you mean tris(triangles).

  • @Super-DeLuxe-
    @Super-DeLuxe- 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The story surrounding the « A necessity for gracious living! » is awesome! Keep up the good work!

  • @williansnobre
    @williansnobre 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Every time I watch your stuff I keep anticipating "is she gonna say it?" at the start so that explanation at the end was awesome

  • @hiijjh100
    @hiijjh100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I got my Sega Saturn for Christmas of 97 and i loved it! It was my primary system until i got an xbox in 01. So many memories playing command and conquer, tombraider, cruzin usa. Good times.... but unfourantly after a few moves and a new incompatible TV my Saturn had been sitting in a box for the past 8 years in my basementcollecting dust. So a few months ago i decided to sell my Saturn.. the system, 2 controllers and 30 games fetched me 80 bucks. Lady at mega media exchange told me they already had a buyer lined up. May it bring him as much joy as it did to me.

    • @cryptocsguy9282
      @cryptocsguy9282 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Ryan Antczak cruzin USA wasn't on the sega saturn

    • @hiijjh100
      @hiijjh100 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cryptocsguy9282 yea I know, I meant Daytona USA. Lol

    • @cryptocsguy9282
      @cryptocsguy9282 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hiijjh100 oh 🤣🤣🤣🤣 , makes sense lol

    • @BobbyHo2022
      @BobbyHo2022 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Tell me where you got that Cruzin Usa saturn port. 😂

  • @niahoad
    @niahoad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Watching lady decade.
    A necessity for graceus living

  • @jamesnewman4351
    @jamesnewman4351 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Had my Saturn since 1995 , still loving it. I love it when you do stuff about the Saturn and it's games 👍

  • @DaveVoyles
    @DaveVoyles 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    First the Sega CD, then the 32X, and now the Saturn? You've been covering the trifecta of gaming glory!

    • @Nick_Nightingale
      @Nick_Nightingale 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      32x was gaming glory?

    • @DaveVoyles
      @DaveVoyles 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      To peasants such as myself, yes

  • @trik6727
    @trik6727 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Still have mine with 48 complete games, love it

  • @eyalrephaeli6833
    @eyalrephaeli6833 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sega should've used the Cartridge Slot and Controller Port of the Sega Mega Drive for the Saturn from the get go. also they should've made the Saturn backwards compatible with Master System, Mega Drive, Mega-CD and 32X games.

  • @AlexRoivas
    @AlexRoivas 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    To be fair Kalinske was the one that pushed FMV games during the Sega CD days and damaged Segas reputation. He was great at coming in and selling a product and competiting in the west. He is the reason the Genesis got a price cut and had Sonic as a pack in which allowed sales to explode but when he had to actually come up with games to sell he failed since he wasnt a gamer but a corporate man. Bernie Stolar which replaced him was even worse and destroyed whatever goodwill Sega had

  • @hkoizumi3134
    @hkoizumi3134 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got my PS1 back in 1996. There was a deal in Toys R Us where we trade in Sega Genesis Console and 10 games would get heavy discount on PS1. If it wasn't for this promo, I would have gotten Sega Saturn instead. 1996 was a very strange year for both Sega and Sony. It was the year when the console was still finding its own identity, especially for PS1. Because of this, the game had such a wide variety of odd games. Like Krazy Ivan, Warhawk, Jumping Flash, Toon Race, Tobal #1, Beyond the Beyond, and so on. It was until 1997 and 1998 when both console found their mark in history with legendary titles like FF7, Crash Bandacoot, Resident Evil, and so on.

  • @131457c
    @131457c 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remeber that, here, in Portugal, the PlayStation really started to take off in late 1997, early 1998. Until then, the craze was all about the Saturn. A friend of mine got a Saturn in christmas 1996 and I remember that back then, the Saturn cost more than a minimum wage in Portugal!! So, after 1998, it was normal (for the rich kids) to have a Saturn and a PlayStation. I had to hold on to my Mega Drive until 2002... Until I got a PS2...

  • @warriorlink8612
    @warriorlink8612 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I remember when I had a N64 at my house and my neighbor friend had a Sega Saturn. I was blown away by the realistic video cut scenes that Nintendo just could not match with the cartridges. I really liked my N64, but I also wanted a Sega Saturn. Then, another friend stayed with us for a week and brought over his Playstation. I was witnessing the best of this generation of gaming. 1996-1999 was an incredible time for gaming.

  • @DarthCrust66
    @DarthCrust66 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It’s a dam shame the Saturn never caught on because it has so many cool games and hardware

  • @tntpodcasts
    @tntpodcasts 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A truly magical time for gaming. 3D graphics were brand spanking new and titles had original stories and gameplay.

  • @Longlostpuss
    @Longlostpuss 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    My favourite console of all time, literally the most fun I ever had with a controller in my hand. I bought the console after it had already been out for a year and had a massive price cut, so it was a win-win (cheaper console and alot more games available).
    I care nothing about retail numbers, popularity or anything like that, never have done, I care about quality games and Sega were delivering that whether people recognised that or not. So what, the old Genesis IPs never made it across - that's exactly what I loved about this machine, Sega were absolutely banging out NEW stuff, these were the days when innovation was a thing and regurgitating the same old IPs and stagnating the industry as a result (like we've been seeing for the past 20 years), was not.
    The machine just captured a moment in time that will not be replicated and marked the beginning of my journey as a young man who was prepared to stick by his choices with total conviction and stoicism.
    People laughed at me in college when I said I had a Saturn and had no interest in PlayStation, because I believed at the time I was playing the best games available currently on the market and I stuck by that and I still believe it now. The early PlayStation line up of games could not hold a candle to what Sega were doing, they weren't even close.
    I got my Saturn chipped to play games from any region and the people laughing at me didn't have the slightest clue what I was playing from Japan. Those Japanese imports were serious.
    Look now all these years later and there is a scramble to get hold of all those archive Saturn titles and they are going for an absolute killing now. Panzer Dragoon Saga (which isn't even one of the unheard of titles) is going for as much as $2,800 on eBay. People are now horrendously overpaying to play ancient titles that nobody had an interest in at the time and are well out of fashion now.
    Who's laughing now eh?

    • @AlrickCollinsJr
      @AlrickCollinsJr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I LOVE this sentiment. I totally stand by this logic: stand your ground, regardless of popular opinion

    • @AndysInfamousArcade
      @AndysInfamousArcade 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Certain fanboys will be crying somewhere just because you said you like SEGA and stuck by their products. If I wasn’t a lame 10 years old at the time, I’d like to think my story would have been as cool as yours!!

    • @AlrickCollinsJr
      @AlrickCollinsJr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I remember when the launch of the Saturn and N64 was slowly approaching. I wanted both and yes, even the new comer Sony Playstation, but the Saturn and N64 much MUCH more. While I ended up getting the N64 and PSX, I sadly never got ahold of the Saturn. That is the console on the very top of my gaming console acquisition list.

    • @AndysInfamousArcade
      @AndysInfamousArcade 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AlrickCollinsJr My friend brought over the N64 early on and I remember thinking I cannot believe this dude gets to play this all the time. Blew my mind. I sat there Christmas 95 worshiping the SEGA Saturn ads. Didn’t get one but I got “my own” genesis. Wish I would of known cause I’d have asked for a Super Nintendo. We already had a Genesis model 1 since early 92. Loved it so much but still missed some great Nintendo rpgs at that precious age. I should have known my parents budget and been realistic back then. Damn you Santa. Thanks for the Model 2 though, mom 😁

  • @Choralone422
    @Choralone422 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Why did the Saturn fail (at least in the US?) Answer - $299
    The Playstation coming in at $100 less at launch plus Sega deciding to release the Saturn early and only at a few select retailers (which pissed off many other US retailers) guaranteed that Sega would have an uphill battle just getting the consoles into stores at all!
    Sega didn't just shoot themselves in the foot with the US launch of the Saturn, they blew off one leg at the knee!

    • @lazarushernandez5827
      @lazarushernandez5827 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Don't forget how Stolar blew off its other leg by stating it wasn't Sega's future.
      At that point in time, the Saturn was falling behind, but it did have diverse and unique titles as well as still getting ports of games that the Playstation got; it had a niche that it could have rode out in the West for another year or so.
      Once that announcement came out, developers who might have considered making a new Saturn decided to stop production or shift it to the other consoles. Consumers who had just seen the 32X come and go within a year or two, would have held back as well.

  • @Rassenomatjutut
    @Rassenomatjutut 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Lady, have you heard of Japanese Saturn game commercials featuring judo master Segata Sanshiro? They helped the console sellings in Japan, which encouraged Sega to develope Dreamcast.

  • @wjscottiii
    @wjscottiii 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Lady Decade's youtube channel... A necessity for gracious living"... so say we all!

  • @Heathcliff_hensel
    @Heathcliff_hensel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I absolutely loved “Steep Slope Sliders”. One of the funnest snowboarding games

  • @edwilliamson8327
    @edwilliamson8327 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i swear lady decade is doing a constant top hat gamer impression.

  • @rmc310
    @rmc310 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’d love to watch a full Q and A video. I think it would be really fun and interesting while also being a necessity to gracious living of course.

  • @remylubue2827
    @remylubue2827 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lady decade I love your videos please keep them coming

  • @CompressedEarthBlocks
    @CompressedEarthBlocks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Stumbled across this while reviewing older console history. Subscribed.

  • @skionn5810
    @skionn5810 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love you and your content, I found out your channel a couple of weeks ago and I've been binging your vídeos almost everyday, love you gorgeous Lady Decade ❤️

  • @chrisnichols9014
    @chrisnichols9014 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your knowledge of obscure gaming stuff is insane! Learning about Sega and the Sega Saturn was incredible!

  • @Bucketlistgamer8787
    @Bucketlistgamer8787 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We need more of your takes on the socioeconomic situation in specific parts of the UK in the 1960s. I unironically love it

  • @RuruFIN
    @RuruFIN 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I remember playing with Saturn only once, and that was in the 90s. Everyone had a PS1 (including myself), even a N64 was a rare sight.

  • @blinxman4956
    @blinxman4956 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Saturn's "surprised" launch at E3 1995 basically ended SEGA making consoles.

  • @bdillmore40
    @bdillmore40 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    From watching your past couple videos, I noticed you had said "(blank) a necessity for gracious living" a lot in your videos and didn't think anything of it. A few of other I straight started laughing out because out of context it's hilarious to hear that. But now knowing the joke, I love it! Keep up the great work!

  • @ridiculous_gaming
    @ridiculous_gaming 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ...and during the launch of the Saturn and PlayStation, I owned a Panasonic 3D0 that I paid $550 CAD in 1994.

  • @julientorri5359
    @julientorri5359 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    hello from france, always happy to see new content , thanks for the work.

  • @user-ys9sc2hl4e
    @user-ys9sc2hl4e 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There are several reasons why the Sega Saturn failed in Japan, but the biggest reason is that in the wake of FinalFantasy7, franchises of popular domestic titles such as DQ
    I think the biggest reason is that it became a PS exclusive title.
    When I was a teenage student, I bought a Sega Saturn with what little money I had for "Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner".
    One day, my mind went blank when I suddenly learned from a TV commercial that FF7 would be a PS exclusive title. It was such a shocking event.

  • @williamoverton7775
    @williamoverton7775 ปีที่แล้ว

    Working so close to Christmas is admirable

  • @ChurchKeys
    @ChurchKeys 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've always had much respect for Sega. They started their journey fighting Nintendo toe-to-toe, back-to-back, gat-for-gat in the Master System days.
    ALL their titles slapped and they made them all in-house because Nintendo cornered the market back then:
    * Altered Beast
    *Afterburner
    *Hang On
    *Thunderblade
    *Daytona USA
    *Shinobi
    And their very first console even had 3D Glasses as an option. The best I've own for a console until PSVR for the PS4.
    I owned ALL of the Sega consoles right down to the Dreamcast. It was an awesome ride. I don't regret a minute of it. Thx for the flashbacks. 👍

  • @Banderpop
    @Banderpop 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    There's couple of very significant things missing.
    The Saturn stayed ahead of the PlayStation for a long time in Japan. With the massive success of Sakura Taisen, there wasn't really a hint that the Saturn could fall behind until Square announced that they'd be making games, including the next Final Fantasy, for Sony and not for Sega or even Nintendo. It's well known that the franchise moved because of the CD-ROM format, but I don't think Square choosing PlayStation exclusively over the Saturn or a multi-format approach has ever been explained. Sony and Square/SquareEnix always did love their exclusives though.
    And in the western markets, the gaming press clearly preferred the PlayStation over the Saturn from before their releases. Among anyone that knew gaming journalists, it was said that Sony were extremely generous, going so far as to having drugs and prostitutes at their parties. A necessity for gracious living.

  • @Konuvis
    @Konuvis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was a Sega kid through and through and even so, in France, I don't recall hearing much about the Saturn but after coming from the US in the summer of 94 I HAD to have a PSX and basically begged my grandmother to buy me the console so I got a JP model because the PAL wasn't out yet.

  • @pennylessz
    @pennylessz ปีที่แล้ว

    I absolutely love your catch phrase and the explanation of its origin only makes it better.

  • @83jdc1
    @83jdc1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You Make really good, high quality content

  • @chriscox3709
    @chriscox3709 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I had a Saturn. It never had a rise, just a release and implosion. Not a bad system. Just overpriced and little support. Lady Decade, a necessity for gracious living. 🎩

    • @pokemontradingcardgamecoll5934
      @pokemontradingcardgamecoll5934 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's what she said (not her literally, but you already know what I mean since a chick has an implosion because of a dude's rise hahaha)

  • @mikemena2369
    @mikemena2369 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Video! Thanks for the random history piece at the end. Also liked the way you said DAYTONA!! 😆💯📈👍

  • @Sitharii
    @Sitharii 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    such a superb analysis for the history of SATURN , really enjoyed it !!
    -P.S. I was one of the hardcore Sega Mega Drive fans , who was hyped so much for the SATURN , but ...
    1)all the add-ons that SEGA of America was releasing for the Mega Drive ,right before SATURN's launch , such as SEGA CD , 32X , etc had me confused as a potential SATURN customer.
    ( *really why a customer to buy the 32bit SATURN , when supposedly the 32X could also deliver something similar* ).
    2)The lack of software (*with the catalyst for me being only 1 game :Diablo was available for the PS1 , while wasn't for the SATURN)
    These 2 reasons , turned a dedicated SEGA fan into a PS1 customer ,which by the way , i never regretted that choice!! such a sad story though ...
    -P.S. 2: Although i think that Kalinske was proven to be right to insist in SATURN hardware redesign (08:03 ) , *i'll never understand all those add-ons he chose to launch for the Mega Drive* ,right before SATURN's launch , thus pushing the 32bit-hype away from SATURN...

  • @sajmeister
    @sajmeister 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So proud of being your Patreon. LOVE THE STUFF YOU DOING! "Funding Lady Decade... a necessity for gracious living!"

    • @Kimmi_and_Angelina
      @Kimmi_and_Angelina 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Simp

    • @CaseTheCorvetteMan
      @CaseTheCorvetteMan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why not just download them out the back door of TH-cam so you get them ad free and she gets nothing, you know, like she says she does with music she likes?

  • @metalgrinch
    @metalgrinch 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can i just say that you so such a GREAT job narrating these videos! Such a great voice and great info. I remember wanting a Saturn back in the day but went for a PS1 and N64 instead. Just more games that appealed more, such as Mario 64 and Resident Evil 1 and 2, among classics like Silent Hill and the Metal Gear Solid games. Would have been cool to have gotten this one though, but probably never will.

  • @joshuabonnelle6527
    @joshuabonnelle6527 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved the footage at the end of your video. The old cars and store fronts, etc. I live in an ocean town too!

  • @movieman2344
    @movieman2344 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome vid. Not only was the console notoriously hard to program for, but the price of a Saturn dev kit for second and third party developers were extremely costly and off putting.

    • @maroon9273
      @maroon9273 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sega wanted to kill the saturn asap and leave the hardware market as soon as possible.

    • @ALM1GHTY.PEANUT
      @ALM1GHTY.PEANUT 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sega saw what Atari was doing with difficult multiprocessor programming and said "Hold my controller".

    • @mudddge
      @mudddge 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@maroon9273 so they went ahead and released the Dreamcast?

    • @maroon9273
      @maroon9273 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mudddge yes, NA should've released the dreamcast first and eu and jp last since they cancelled the saturn in NA first.

  • @W3S3333
    @W3S3333 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Saturn actually is a very well-rounded console with a ton of variety in games. I'm approaching 51 Saturn games and over half of them are (in gorgeous) 2D. It still has plenty of games that look and play great today. My personal favorites in my library are (in no particular order) Nights into Dreams, Super Tempo, Magic Knight Rayearth, X-Men Vs. Street Fighter, and The Game Paradise. I just ordered The House of the Dead and Mighty Hits and I have a strong feeling they'll be way up on my list. I'm very slowly getting into Grandia, Princess Crown and 七つ風の島物語 (Nanatsu Kaze no Shima Monogatari, The Island of Seven Winds Story) all kind of at the same time, too.

  • @StevenCusic
    @StevenCusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    When you talked about your town, i had some empathy due too finding out my families ancestral castle (Killeen) in Ireland was turned into a golf course

  • @howardibleinc.7317
    @howardibleinc.7317 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I loved my Sega Saturn. Also loved my Dreamcast.

  • @madspunky
    @madspunky 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Saturn had a better library than the PS1 until the release of Final Fantasy 7 (late '97): Panzer Dragoon, Sega Rally, Virtua Fighter 2, World Series Baseball, Virtua Cop, Guardian Heroes, Powerslave, Saturn Bomberman, Nights, Die Hard Arcade, Dragon Force, X-Men, X-Men Vs Street Fighter, Virtual-On...

  • @flashfrozen64
    @flashfrozen64 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you ma'am, for the quality content as always!

  • @beejeeto9808
    @beejeeto9808 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great coverage and Memes. Fully entertaining~

  • @danielfrabotta5501
    @danielfrabotta5501 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It sounds like you grew up in Newport Beach, CA. I lived there for awhile and man, everyone thinks it's so freaking posh it's quite unreal. Nice town though and pretty good surfing too. Huntington Beach which was down the road was way better though. The people were chill and the waves were way better. Now it's all changing though as the elderly want it to be a quiet town instead of Surf City, USA which it's well known as. I guess it can happen anywhere though. We must stay vigilant lest toffs take over. Great video and please, keep 'em coming.

  • @Rouxenator
    @Rouxenator 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love that explanation at the end - excellent stuff!

  • @delalicanto7432
    @delalicanto7432 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    La mejor consola de la historia. Es la única verdaderamente inolvidable para el que la tiene. Todas las demás pasan al olvido tarde o temprano.

    • @greenkoopa
      @greenkoopa 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Megadrive was a more iconic and properly supported console than the Saturn. Sega had the head fall off of them in 1995 🙃

  • @adamking6645
    @adamking6645 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It didn't help that Sega was stretching it's resources thin by trying to support FIVE different platforms simultaneously during the latter half of 1995. They had the Genesis, Sega CD, Game Gear, 32X and now the Saturn.

  • @j.goggels9115
    @j.goggels9115 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Too many components implied a surge in the price of all Sega products, Mega-CD, 32X and Saturn, where the Master System and Game Gear had been affordable to a wide demographics of Brazilians and Europeans.

  • @billcook4768
    @billcook4768 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    We need a whole video of LD singing along to the karaoke mode in Daytona Racer.

  • @erockbrox8484
    @erockbrox8484 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hardware is nothing without software. What they needed is a killer app that sells the console. If Square had made Final Fantasy 7 exclusive for the Saturn it would have been a different story. That pretty much sums it up.

  • @TBustah
    @TBustah 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember the upcoming release of the Saturn pretty well because Saturnday was also my seventh birthday. It’s also why remembering the start and end dates of World War II is easy. XD

  • @Caddy666
    @Caddy666 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    weirdly relevant, i finally bought one...it turned up yesturday

  • @wickedwackguy
    @wickedwackguy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn girl! You're getting good at this! Keep it up!

  • @arcadeutopia3035
    @arcadeutopia3035 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolute quality 👌

  • @chaospoet
    @chaospoet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If Panzer Dragoon was available at launch, Panzer Dragoon and Virtua Fighter would have been an awesome one-two punch. I mean look up the PS1 launch titles. Those two are better than anything PS1 was offering at the time.

  • @Yakobu90
    @Yakobu90 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    2 of my friends at school had these obscure consoles not many people had heard of, one had a SNES which I got to play the one and only time I went to his house, the other had a Saturn and despite going to his house multiple times, I never saw it. I have one now though, it's Japanese and I'm very happy to play the games for the first time.

  • @ElricSowrd
    @ElricSowrd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just started watching shortly after I got the Notification.
    At the time, I didn't know about the technical differences between Playstation and Sega Saturn. Except for the difference with their libraries especially Playstation having Final Fantasy VII and the Designs of their Controllers. I thought the Model 1 Controller looked awesome.
    LOL 😆 (3:40-3:46)
    I heard that Saturn was more of a better 2D Console than a 3D Console when it comes to 2D Capcom games like Street Fighter Alphas and X-Men Vs Street Fighter.

  • @ShadowArtist
    @ShadowArtist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why the Saturn failed in the USA:
    1) Price of the console was WAY too high
    2) Bernie Stolar took over as CEO of Sega of America, he pushed a policy/idea that "RPGs and 2-D games don't sell" he refused to release the 2Meg and 4meg ram expansion carts needed for the near-perfect amazing Capcom and SNK fighting games, so those popular arcade games couldn't be localized, long delays and intial refusal to support or do US localization of any RPGs (a few did much later). he infamously said "Saturn is not our future" killing third party developer confidence in the console. then Final Fantasy 7 proved Stolar wrong!
    3) HUGE *lack of localized games from Japan*, where Saturn was doing really well with arcade fighting game and shoot em up fans in Japan and had a *strong* user base *in Japan*, At least *threee* major game magazines (Saturn Fan and Beep! Saturn were two major ones) that focused on Saturn games, with making of articles, previews, reviews, free game guides, free manga inserts, fan art sections, prize drawings
    4) Refusal to publish or support ANY 2-d Saturn games (even though the console was a 2-d power house). NO releases of the classic Arcade games released in JAPAN as "Sega Ages"...
    5) the selection of games for the Saturn was atrocious, very hard to find quality games, as it seems US publishers mostly wanted to do low-effort 3-d sports games, wonky 3-d action games that were low-effort licensed games based on a movie. So third party support was weak to start off with...
    **IN JAPAN** The Sega Saturn growing library of near arcade perfect Fighting Games, arcade Shoot-em-ups, and engaging RPGs help it grow a sizable gamer base and seemed to be doing better sales wise than the N64, as that console was seen more as a "for kids" console. Serious arcade gamers were buying up Sega Saturns and the excellent home ports of SNK and Capcom games as well as the great shoot-em-ups
    I not from the UK but it seemed like in the the UK that the Saturn had a fairly strong gamer support...

  • @thetezz0001
    @thetezz0001 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video very informative thanks

  • @invalidsin5665
    @invalidsin5665 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Sega made so many greedy mistakes after the Genesis.
    By the time the Dreamcast released, trust In Sega had already eroded...
    Truly, it was a damn shame.

    • @iwanttocomplain
      @iwanttocomplain 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They did look greedy. But only because the Mega CD looked so pointless and expensive.
      The 32X, given it‘s specs was actually a bargain.

    • @arneltalabucon4386
      @arneltalabucon4386 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The other thing that is why Sega totally defunct on making a console because of being boastful especially on their tvc when they ranting Nintendo that their GENESIS is the best,, but look at them now, from being a console maker and now they became a 3rd party developer of games to other consoles especially on NINTENDO who still making a console until now...

    • @tylerkobelia
      @tylerkobelia 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah the Dreamcast was awesome

  • @TheProgressiveStyle
    @TheProgressiveStyle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would be really interesting to see a documentary about the sega commercial campaign against nintendo, no one went really deep in to who was the mastermind behind those advertising..

  • @MonkeyPunchZPoker
    @MonkeyPunchZPoker 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    There's a saying in my household; "Bacon, a necessity for gracious living"

  • @mrglasses8953
    @mrglasses8953 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Although I didn't really get into gaming until the PS1 came out and games went 3d, looking back the Saturn has aged the best from this generation, as its 2d games have stood the test of time. Whereas the 3d games from this generation have not aged well.

  • @PulpVision
    @PulpVision 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Regardless of its flaws, I had fun experiences with the Saturn thanks to titles such as Nights,Guardian Heroes, Burning Rangers, the Marvel vs games and of course Panzer Dragoon 1-3! Thanks, Sega!

  • @marcgoesblindgaming2076
    @marcgoesblindgaming2076 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh the Saturn is so underappreciated, and I would love to go for a pint in Frinton LOL, fantastic video I look forward to the next one

  • @sega-re-trop-vieux
    @sega-re-trop-vieux 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Saturn is still my favorite Sega console. More than 1100 games, amazing rpg and so many different Consoles variants.
    The Dreamcast is just behind in my taste because the lack of rpg ( I know there is great rpg but not enough compare to the Saturn)

  • @wisconsinrebelhomes7587
    @wisconsinrebelhomes7587 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the review

  • @datriaxsondor590
    @datriaxsondor590 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sega got a taste of market success with the Genesis, and were absolutely paranoid of giving up even an inch of it in the hardware generation transition.
    Some of the dumbest decisions in video game history were made between 1992 - 1995, by Sega.

  • @joesretrostuff
    @joesretrostuff 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It bugs me slightly that you keep including clips of VF3 from the Dreamcast in Saturn game montages, but otherwise stellar vid as always!

  • @segasaturn6800
    @segasaturn6800 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool ! Great video 👍

  • @stevenspx6226
    @stevenspx6226 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Never had Saturn but loved my Dreamcast

  • @sayjinpat4life
    @sayjinpat4life 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice classic Sinmpsons reference

  • @Sieg_W
    @Sieg_W 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful video

  • @ZazzleFraxx
    @ZazzleFraxx 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    As always great informative video. Oh no I got the tattoo on the left cheek.

  • @rodolfohernandez4009
    @rodolfohernandez4009 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Don't forget to mention the demo/magazines

  • @krisfrederick5001
    @krisfrederick5001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I only knew one kid that owned a Saturn...The End.

  • @JohnSmith-zw8vp
    @JohnSmith-zw8vp 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    16:40 -- The Price Heard 'Round The World.

  • @bluewaterdiggers5970
    @bluewaterdiggers5970 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the story at the end best.

  • @turismofoegaming8806
    @turismofoegaming8806 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Remember me and my dad at the end of that summer going to Toys “R” Us and looking at the Sega Saturn and the newly released Sony PlayStation!
    Part of me really wanted to have a Saturn because it was all black and I was also an 11 year old child coming from having a Sega genesis and a super Nintendo…
    Lucky for me my dad and I were both one(WON) over by the fact That PlayStation was going to be bundled with either Tekken or Ridge Racer, and me and my dad had went that previous summer for my birthday to the beach, where my father spent close to $1000 on us playing ridge racer in the arcade and Tekken, here and there, every single day that we were at the Beach!!
    Because of all of that we ended up deciding that Christmas that the PlayStation was probably the better deal, but me being an 11-year-old kid seen that 100 extra dollars on the Saturn and thought that it meant that it was automatically better?!?!
    Well folks a few decades nearly later, and I have to say one of my greatest Christmas mornings waking up was to wake up and find a Sony PlayStation already hooked up to the TV with ridge racer, destruction derby, jumping flash, streetfighter the game the movie, twisted metal, and Tekken!!!!!
    I begged my dad to let me stay at the house while him and the rest of the family went to Christmas dinner?!?!!
    Such a great memory!!
    EDIT:
    I just want to say the new update that TH-cam made to the text system for comments is a goddamn aggravating piece of motherfucking shit-

  • @Bloodyshinta1
    @Bloodyshinta1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    the issue with the saturn hardware complexity goes beyond even the hardware itself, Sega didn't even provide information in English on how to utilize it for years after its release.

  • @ronaldclayton8347
    @ronaldclayton8347 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Even after having both the failed Sega CD and 32X I still had faith in Sega and talked my mom into buying one of these for Christmas in 1995.At the time I was amazed she was willing to spend $399 on it and I was thinking how could Sega go wrong again it's a whole new console.It looked so much better than the $299 playstations stacked next to them,the new Sony console looked a little strange and at the time the controllers looked weird (being the very first controller of this shape).By the end of the 90's I was so pissed at Sega I didn't even give a thought to buying a Dreamcast even if it was $199 I would just wait for the PS2.I finally bought a Dreamcast in 2003 after the price dropped to $50 and found out it was actually worthy to succeed but I guess there were just too many people out there like me that felt let down by Sega with the failure or the Sega CD,32X and OVERPRICED AND UNDER SUPPORTED SEGA SATURN.

    • @virtuafighter3
      @virtuafighter3 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Your Dreamcast @ $50 is some positive compensation for the previous costs incurred. Dreamcast was /is excellent indeed