Its a great compact and portable PC for awesome PC and basic light gaming needs imo :D The price isn't a concern for me as an ITX and SFF ITX PC builder for well over a decade now but i can see a new to PC gaming etc this can be pricey. Its great to see how far these portable PC's have come in the past 2-3 years with great integrated graphics performance for easy portability :D Beelink are certainly making strides in this market.
Same here, the idea is excellent it just needs some extra tweaking and work on it! Also if Valve is going to release next Steam Deck 2 I hope they will take into account pairing it with the eGPU and not drop hybrid stationary mode. Modularity of the mini or mobile PC with the eGPU has great potential to grow in the future.
Nice video mate BUT cannot fathom how you ( at 07:40 ) thought one could get a desktop setup with a 7800X3D for the same price as this mini PC... i would love to get a sff case, a 600w SFX PSU, a 7800X3D, a Motherboard, 32 GB DDR5, a cooler, a 1tb nvme all in for £550 !!! Even second hand on ebay would be impossible to do it, let alone brand new !
Interesting way they’ve put it together - a slightly more well rounded take on the MinisForum EliteMini B550 however that did have a desktop CPU socket. Shame it never caught on/i could afford one at the time
I've got one of these MinisForum B550s paired with a 1660 SUPER; it's a very solid backup rig. Though I prefer the internal power brick on this one, the external power brick is clunky for the MF B550.
I have one with an amd 6800h and an 680m apu. Sure I can't play games at high resolution, but it has a 2.5gb nic so I can easily stream from my desktop and I also can do some 1080p gaming with fsr enabled.
I have a Ryzen 7 5800 with 32Gb, with all the connectivity I need and it cost around £450 new early last year. I absolutely love it. I use it for multimedia, a little light gaming and do a lot of astrophotography processing, which runs surprisingly well. Unlike many laptops/desktops, it doesn't ship with any bloatware installed - damn useful in my book. A happy customer!
The thing that annoys me with mini PCs is not so much the higher cost, I am poor so I can't afford any of them anyway, but that difficulty in being able to reach the CPU fan/cooling solution. Which makes it a pain if not impossible to do maintenance to a system. Which could lead to performance drops after months of a year or so of not being able to do it. It's almost like they are designing them to last as little as possible. Very annoying. Otherwise, this PC with the docking station is a thing of beauty. I would seriously consider it if it had a better way of accessing the CPU part and if I had more than 15 euros in my account. Thank you for the video, very good. Just one question, at least Cyberpunk which I know enables automatically the upscaling options. So when you say LOW etc, do you mean with the upscaling or do you switch them off? Thanks.
? I have been using daily an "old" mini pc that have a 5500u for years and I haven't seen a performance slowdown or anything like that... and yes, at least one time every year I open it to clean it without issues
I just got the Beelink GTi14 Ultra with the docking station. I have the GTi14 only running without the docking station because the video card card is on its way. I just insalled steam & loaded one of my games running on a Samsong 85" 4K screen. After tweaking the video settings I can't believe image quality. I can't wait to set up the docking station.
Dang... I want one of those! That's so awesome; out of my price range at the moment... and not the right time. But I like modding stuff and I'd love to do something with the tiny board within and make it lower profile or join it with a Mac Mini and a capture card ( since sometimes I need access to a local MacOS device )
Hello. When I connect the Type-C cable monitor to a Gti14 mini computer with Thunderbolt 4, the monitor does not show the image. If I still connect Type-C Power to second port, then it begins to show the image. Does you show image via one usb type-c cable?
Any recommendations for mini pcs strictly for console streaming in 4k? I have a 4k elgato. I just need a pc that can run it. Been searching for 3 days btw and don’t have a real answer. I’d greatly appreciate any suggestions.
It seems like a silly design choice to have the PCI Express slot on the side that causes a restriction for the maximum width of the graphics card. If the slot was on the other side of the graphics, that would have removed that arbitrary limitation and not have the cooling intake blocked by the computer and GPU facing each other.
Can you connect direct the External graphics card with PCIe 3.0 16x Extension Cable? No need to use the docking station. Just use 3rd party power supply for Graphics Card.
I really love to minimize size of my electronics as far as possible. Therefore I am very interested in that kind of PC. I am currently in the situation to either upgrade my Fullsize Tower PC or to change the system to a mini PC to upgrade to Windows 11. The Sabertooth 990fx MB and the FX 8350 CPU are not compatible with Win11. With this Beelink kit I would be able to keep my RX 5600 GPU, but at twice of the cost for the tower upgrade... Difficult choice, at least not money wise, but concept wise.
Very well reviewed. This still makes me wonder many things - like who is this the best for? I mean ITX builds in compact cases are also portable enough these days, and perhaps even cost less plus may perform better considering the CPUs and DIMM slots for RAMs in them. One may argue the performance difference may not be huge but then consider the price as well as the size thing it would look like the ITX build might be a better choice. Just an overall guess here based on what I've seen. A comparison with an ITX build would clarify this actually - would appreciate if you can do that as well and share your experiences.
Why was that initial "Heyy guuuys!" so wholesome!? 😭 Pretty neat small-boi there. The attached docking station is awesome, still makes it pretty compact and square. For some reason a lot of external GPU docks are super long, making them basically bigger than this entire PC, so that's a nice design choice. Great video, dood!
Yes absolutely. I'm sure you're not the only one who would want that. If they go for AMD they may target the gamer and even the AI dev community better.
Hey I found a gpu that I could buy it’s issues are that it doesn’t post and there are some slight damage to the pcie lane on the gpu however all the golden strips are intact do you think it’s worth or even likely that getting someone and they try to repair it that they could or is the gpu most likely done for? Also on the listing I can check it out since the listing has return on it so I can return it if I want
I don't really get the point of this thing. Why would I as a consumer spend $280 extra on a mini pc that'll at best give me maybe 15% better cpu performance. The better igpu isn't even a valid counter here because the IGPU present in the Ryzen 7 8845HS is from what I've gathered actually a little bit faster than the Ultra 9's and far more consistent because intel's gpu drivers aren't the greatest. The 8845HS is present in the Beelink SER8 it's $270 cheaper than the ultra 9 variant.
Great question. As a longtime AMD fanboy, I would love to use an all red minipc. From my testing, the 8845HS based minipc's have not performed stably in windows when virtualization (SVM) is enabled in bios or hyper-v has been loaded. It appears that these are mainly firmware/software issues that should eventually be resolved, however the support from the OEM's and AMD seems to be almost non-existent regarding these issues. So for those of us that rely on hardware support for virtualization and software compartmentalization, the minis that package ultra 9 intel chip with arc are some of the most compelling. Please write me back with your experience, I would love to get a conversation going on this topic.
Nice video, and interesting product, but it seems that the trend is towards OCuLink rather than hidden PCIe slots because the number of products offering a connector keep increasing, and there even is an affordable dock now : Minisforum DEG1 . Compatible Minisforum models listed are the UM780 XTX, UM890 Pro, UH125 Pro and the AtomMan X7 Ti, but any device with an OCuLink connector should work.
This is exactly what I was search for just yesterday and funny enough it also has PSU built in How is it even possible that they could read my mind of what product I needed? Anyways, the only problem is the durability and accessing the ram, but maybe they can fix in 3-6 months updates if they can sell enough units of these.
Thanks for the review!Internal power brick inside a confined space that is already small at it is,is a mistake for airflow....A mistake that you cant get rid off.For this alone i would never get this Pc...
Exaclty. If you see the size difference too vs an ITX build you'll not find much difference in size. Plus the ITX build might be cheaper. Still this is a good design idea.
Whats the point? How is traveling with this less stressful or easy than taking a desktop or heaven forbid a laptop. A thousand dollars for just the mini pc and docking station? It looks cool, but I'd be afraid of damaging the GPU. It just seems like a re design of the wheel. Maybe something a hipster would bring to starbucks
u carry just the mini pc and buy 2 docking station and 2 gpu... I would have no problem doing that if the mini pc was actually using a proper dekstop cpu up to 5-6L
nah, i'd say this product is suckballz handheld PC formfactor is the future, lenovo legion go, the devs can work themself around that unit, more innovation around that, somehow
This is pointless. Just get a SFF case that’s slightly bigger than this, get 16 lanes, a higher wattage PSU if/when you need it, and a better CPU. No point paying more to get less when the size becomes irrelevant the moment you add the deck and GPU, which will bottleneck above a 4080 an makes upgrading to next Gen GPUs a no-go.
that setup look ugly af. and with that price point. better go tower or mini tower as they look better and well protected. dock with mini pc dont make any sense to most gamer as mini pc generally stay in 1 location, just like any other normal pc case. in the other hand, i am excited for good dock for handheld devices because when hooking handheld to big screen at home, boost on graphic quality and performance is the best.
Piece of junk. I bought a Beelink Ryzen 5 and kept over-heating until it finally cooked. Straight to the trash bin. I have a Minis Forum - excellent never gets even warm
Hello. When I connect the Type-C cable portable monitor to a Gti14 mini computer with Thunderbolt 4, the monitor does not show the image. If I still connect Type-C Power to second port, then it begins to show the image. Does you show image via one usb type-c cable?
Thats a really good integrated gpu, damn
Yea but the ryzen 680m and 780m are better
that comparison video is a must plz do it!
Its a great compact and portable PC for awesome PC and basic light gaming needs imo :D The price isn't a concern for me as an ITX and SFF ITX PC builder for well over a decade now but i can see a new to PC gaming etc this can be pricey.
Its great to see how far these portable PC's have come in the past 2-3 years with great integrated graphics performance for easy portability :D Beelink are certainly making strides in this market.
I wish modular PCs had caught on.
Well technically the PC eco system is modular
So any DIY desktop?
Same here, the idea is excellent it just needs some extra tweaking and work on it! Also if Valve is going to release next Steam Deck 2 I hope they will take into account pairing it with the eGPU and not drop hybrid stationary mode. Modularity of the mini or mobile PC with the eGPU has great potential to grow in the future.
@@12gark framework Laptops ftw
pc is a modular computer... what are you talking about?? lol =D
It would be great to see a comparison video to a standard ITX build! Great video!
Agreed, modular mini & mobile PC docking solutions with the eGPUs will certainly grow in the future and should be even more elegant than this one.
Awesome video Matt. greetings from Belize.
Nice video mate BUT cannot fathom how you ( at 07:40 ) thought one could get a desktop setup with a 7800X3D for the same price as this mini PC... i would love to get a sff case, a 600w SFX PSU, a 7800X3D, a Motherboard, 32 GB DDR5, a cooler, a 1tb nvme all in for £550 !!! Even second hand on ebay would be impossible to do it, let alone brand new !
Do the comparative video please
Agreed
Interesting way they’ve put it together - a slightly more well rounded take on the MinisForum EliteMini B550 however that did have a desktop CPU socket. Shame it never caught on/i could afford one at the time
I've got one of these MinisForum B550s paired with a 1660 SUPER; it's a very solid backup rig.
Though I prefer the internal power brick on this one, the external power brick is clunky for the MF B550.
I have one with an amd 6800h and an 680m apu. Sure I can't play games at high resolution, but it has a 2.5gb nic so I can easily stream from my desktop and I also can do some 1080p gaming with fsr enabled.
I have a Ryzen 7 5800 with 32Gb, with all the connectivity I need and it cost around £450 new early last year. I absolutely love it. I use it for multimedia, a little light gaming and do a lot of astrophotography processing, which runs surprisingly well.
Unlike many laptops/desktops, it doesn't ship with any bloatware installed - damn useful in my book. A happy customer!
Very cool. Wish the PC and dock were the same shade of gray
This mini pc is amazing
The thing that annoys me with mini PCs is not so much the higher cost, I am poor so I can't afford any of them anyway, but that difficulty in being able to reach the CPU fan/cooling solution. Which makes it a pain if not impossible to do maintenance to a system. Which could lead to performance drops after months of a year or so of not being able to do it. It's almost like they are designing them to last as little as possible. Very annoying.
Otherwise, this PC with the docking station is a thing of beauty. I would seriously consider it if it had a better way of accessing the CPU part and if I had more than 15 euros in my account.
Thank you for the video, very good. Just one question, at least Cyberpunk which I know enables automatically the upscaling options. So when you say LOW etc, do you mean with the upscaling or do you switch them off? Thanks.
? I have been using daily an "old" mini pc that have a 5500u for years and I haven't seen a performance slowdown or anything like that... and yes, at least one time every year I open it to clean it without issues
@@DienerNoUta Good?
Yes! Dual Lan Ports!
I just got the Beelink GTi14 Ultra with the docking station. I have the GTi14 only running without the docking station because the video card card is on its way. I just insalled steam & loaded one of my games running on a Samsong 85" 4K screen. After tweaking the video settings I can't believe image quality. I can't wait to set up the docking station.
did you get them all running? how is it?
do the comparison between the itx and this please
nice review and technical in deep... I like to know how performance it on Adobe creative cloud apps like PS, and LR, Premiere... great job dude!!
They should make one for handheld PCs like the steamdeck/legion go
absolutely do a comparison build!
Can you directly plug the GPU card onto the miniPC's PCIe slot, and use a dedicated PSU. So you do not need to buy this dock. Right?
i love mini PC's so much want a cheap gaming PC in a couple years mini PC cheap server? Mini PC, router? you guessed it mini PC 🤣
you think its worth to go with GTi14 instead of GTi12 if i only purely use it for gpu docking mode? The price gap are subsstantially big
I believe there is only a 5 percent difference in benchmarks so I would probably just go with the gti12 with it been way cheaper but not much weaker
Dang... I want one of those! That's so awesome; out of my price range at the moment... and not the right time. But I like modding stuff and I'd love to do something with the tiny board within and make it lower profile or join it with a Mac Mini and a capture card ( since sometimes I need access to a local MacOS device )
Hello. When I connect the Type-C cable monitor to a Gti14 mini computer with Thunderbolt 4, the monitor does not show the image. If I still connect Type-C Power to second port, then it begins to show the image. Does you show image via one usb type-c cable?
I just had this thought... But how will this Beelink GPU thingy, will be against a OcuLink connection.
The direct PCIe connection performs a lot better than the Oculink solution. There are other TH-cam videos doing the comparison
The main reason to buy a mini PC is portability. It seems to me it would be easier and safer to transport an ITX than a rig like this.
really interesting PC, I've never seen a mini pc before. Not sure how much I like the external GPU though
Any recommendations for mini pcs strictly for console streaming in 4k? I have a 4k elgato. I just need a pc that can run it. Been searching for 3 days btw and don’t have a real answer. I’d greatly appreciate any suggestions.
does this has intel stability issues???
Woah built in speakers? Didn't see that coming
Does your unit suspends correctly? Mine still running and consuming 30ish watts in "sleep" mode.
It seems like a silly design choice to have the PCI Express slot on the side that causes a restriction for the maximum width of the graphics card. If the slot was on the other side of the graphics, that would have removed that arbitrary limitation and not have the cooling intake blocked by the computer and GPU facing each other.
Not available in Europe yet?
I am planning to use it for autocad, revit, sketchup and blender,(not heavy models) have you tried any of these.? Thanks
Can you connect direct the External graphics card with PCIe 3.0 16x Extension Cable?
No need to use the docking station. Just use 3rd party power supply for Graphics Card.
I really love to minimize size of my electronics as far as possible. Therefore I am very interested in that kind of PC. I am currently in the situation to either upgrade my Fullsize Tower PC or to change the system to a mini PC to upgrade to Windows 11. The Sabertooth 990fx MB and the FX 8350 CPU are not compatible with Win11. With this Beelink kit I would be able to keep my RX 5600 GPU, but at twice of the cost for the tower upgrade... Difficult choice, at least not money wise, but concept wise.
Very well reviewed. This still makes me wonder many things - like who is this the best for? I mean ITX builds in compact cases are also portable enough these days, and perhaps even cost less plus may perform better considering the CPUs and DIMM slots for RAMs in them. One may argue the performance difference may not be huge but then consider the price as well as the size thing it would look like the ITX build might be a better choice. Just an overall guess here based on what I've seen.
A comparison with an ITX build would clarify this actually - would appreciate if you can do that as well and share your experiences.
bee-link site is so slow.. are they using pentium 2 servers?
Why was that initial "Heyy guuuys!" so wholesome!? 😭
Pretty neat small-boi there. The attached docking station is awesome, still makes it pretty compact and square. For some reason a lot of external GPU docks are super long, making them basically bigger than this entire PC, so that's a nice design choice. Great video, dood!
I wish it is AMD system
There was bro..
Yes absolutely. I'm sure you're not the only one who would want that. If they go for AMD they may target the gamer and even the AI dev community better.
Weird think of confidence, just look at those speakers, the fact it has speakers, so small but done right, the rest of the pc is probably good.
waiting for a new crazy sleeper build video
Hey I found a gpu that I could buy it’s issues are that it doesn’t post and there are some slight damage to the pcie lane on the gpu however all the golden strips are intact do you think it’s worth or even likely that getting someone and they try to repair it that they could or is the gpu most likely done for? Also on the listing I can check it out since the listing has return on it so I can return it if I want
Probably not worth it.
How is noise level?
I don't really get the point of this thing. Why would I as a consumer spend $280 extra on a mini pc that'll at best give me maybe 15% better cpu performance. The better igpu isn't even a valid counter here because the IGPU present in the Ryzen 7 8845HS is from what I've gathered actually a little bit faster than the Ultra 9's and far more consistent because intel's gpu drivers aren't the greatest. The 8845HS is present in the Beelink SER8 it's $270 cheaper than the ultra 9 variant.
to get an external gpu is the point...
Right
Great question. As a longtime AMD fanboy, I would love to use an all red minipc. From my testing, the 8845HS based minipc's have not performed stably in windows when virtualization (SVM) is enabled in bios or hyper-v has been loaded. It appears that these are mainly firmware/software issues that should eventually be resolved, however the support from the OEM's and AMD seems to be almost non-existent regarding these issues.
So for those of us that rely on hardware support for virtualization and software compartmentalization, the minis that package ultra 9 intel chip with arc are some of the most compelling. Please write me back with your experience, I would love to get a conversation going on this topic.
Nice video, and interesting product, but it seems that the trend is towards OCuLink rather than hidden PCIe slots because the number of products offering a connector keep increasing, and there even is an affordable dock now : Minisforum DEG1 . Compatible Minisforum models listed are the UM780 XTX, UM890 Pro, UH125 Pro and the AtomMan X7 Ti, but any device with an OCuLink connector should work.
4x vs. 8x lanes
@@mikapeltokorpi7671 ... well yes, but the question was what the future will be, not what is faster.
Oculink is trash and this could and should have been 16 lanes. Next Gen thunderbolt will make 8 lanes pointless and Oculink even more embarrassing
This is exactly what I was search for just yesterday and funny enough it also has PSU built in
How is it even possible that they could read my mind of what product I needed?
Anyways, the only problem is the durability and accessing the ram, but maybe they can fix in 3-6 months updates if they can sell enough units of these.
I would buy a more powerful version (of course larger to up to 6-7 L) with a new dock with more space and proper pcie port at max speed
No point. The dock and GPU already made the small PC dumb, just get a larger case that fits everything, it’ll be the same size and you can upgrade.
Thanks for the review!Internal power brick inside a confined space that is already small at it is,is a mistake for airflow....A mistake that you cant get rid off.For this alone i would never get this Pc...
Vs Itx video pls
we need the comparison
wow very cool. Is this fast enough to emulate ps3 games?
So its a mobile cpu? Why don't they make a mini pc with a real i7 or i9?
thats what I want to... something up to 6liter I would buy
Exaclty. If you see the size difference too vs an ITX build you'll not find much difference in size. Plus the ITX build might be cheaper. Still this is a good design idea.
It doesn't come with WiFi?
Yes it does. WiFi 7.
Plz compare the two!!!
Whats the point? How is traveling with this less stressful or easy than taking a desktop or heaven forbid a laptop. A thousand dollars for just the mini pc and docking station? It looks cool, but I'd be afraid of damaging the GPU. It just seems like a re design of the wheel. Maybe something a hipster would bring to starbucks
u carry just the mini pc and buy 2 docking station and 2 gpu... I would have no problem doing that if the mini pc was actually using a proper dekstop cpu up to 5-6L
Nice
nah, i'd say this product is suckballz
handheld PC formfactor is the future, lenovo legion go, the devs can work themself around that unit, more innovation around that, somehow
The legion go uses the slower thunder bolt 4 standard so it's actually worse
# definitely not a mac mini clone
Nice review and great amount of depth.
I came here after reviewing the Khadas Mind alternative. This might br cheaper.
You should use the ryzen 4070
Zack needs to throw Ryzen A770
This is pointless. Just get a SFF case that’s slightly bigger than this, get 16 lanes, a higher wattage PSU if/when you need it, and a better CPU. No point paying more to get less when the size becomes irrelevant the moment you add the deck and GPU, which will bottleneck above a 4080 an makes upgrading to next Gen GPUs a no-go.
i think the argument is it allows for more portability, easier to break-down etc.
that setup look ugly af. and with that price point. better go tower or mini tower as they look better and well protected.
dock with mini pc dont make any sense to most gamer as mini pc generally stay in 1 location, just like any other normal pc case.
in the other hand, i am excited for good dock for handheld devices because when hooking handheld to big screen at home, boost on graphic quality and performance is the best.
BEANS
I hate pc gamers .. 😂
Piece of junk. I bought a Beelink Ryzen 5 and kept over-heating until it finally cooked. Straight to the trash bin. I have a Minis Forum - excellent never gets even warm
Perfect????
Overprice Weak Ass Of a PC
Intel 🤢🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
vr capable?
they only have PCIEX8 on this, shame...
if only it was x16 🥲
Hello. When I connect the Type-C cable portable monitor to a Gti14 mini computer with Thunderbolt 4, the monitor does not show the image. If I still connect Type-C Power to second port, then it begins to show the image. Does you show image via one usb type-c cable?
I have everything working off Thunderbolt 4. Power, Monitor, LAN, Keyboard & Mouse