Important note: Only Champion gets the Command ability (and the upgrade to it). Recruited heroes still have the other Origin skills the champion has. Champion is also getting +20% bonus xp to themselves instead of non-heroes, so they can power through skill trees fast.
Wouldn't it be possible to add fairy lords in the future? We already have big dragons, eldritch sovereigns and next be giants, and we would also like something small, and fairies are interesting and have many possibilities for visuals and skills, and some kind of fairy form would be great, we already have people, elves, dwarfs and many animals forms, or at least some type of transformation into a fairy like we have the transformation into angels and demons, and some more fey wildlifes like leprechaunts, satyrs, dryads or other different types of fairies, or a Satyr form wouldn't be bad (the lower half of the body is animal with hooves and the upper half is human ) and some Centaur transformation would be great
Some of the hero ambitions you guys made are super specific that you’d have to build a realm with it in mind. Like Crusader and fighting undead or demon enemies. Yet others like prospector or shepherd can be gained by doing what you’d do naturally. So you get rank 4 super quickly or you get nothing at all.
I like all the updates AoW4 has gotten over the year+ development cycle, I just wish the diplomacy aspect and AI behavior got looked at. It's annoying that at times their behavior changes so fast or they get triggered so easily. Or the fact they still spam low tier units the whole game. Those areas getting looked at would be great for single player people.
The diplomacy AI is pretty predictable. What's your actual gripe with it? It's simple, maybe not very well telegraphed, so some explanation may raise your enjoyment of the game.
yea, i agreed with the low tier spam thingy, they supposed to show exhaust in resources after a while especially if we wiped 4 or 5 of their fullstack army
@@Washeek I mean for one the threat level system makes no sense what so ever. I can be last place in a game and the AI be "omg your a threat" -400 opinion.
@@UnderKingDuck Do you know they explained how the threat level actually works and that it isn't at all based just on your proximity and military ability/ranking? The most important modifier are affinities comparison. If their primary affinity and your primary affinity are the same that should strongly tank the threat rating. Ofc. on higher diff. the AI are super agressive towards the player and why shouldn't they? If you played with a strong player as a weak player wouldn't you consider them a threat to your ability to win the map?
@@Washeek The main problem with the AI diplomacy it that it very rarely declares war on you, allowing the player to freely dictate who they fight and when. Sure you can get grievances and they even fabricate them sometimes but it's very easy to just buy these off and leaving the AI in a state where it wont declare war. Really wish the imperium loss for declaring unjust wars would be exempted for the AI so they can more easily declare war. In 1k hours+ I have NEVER had a single AI declare war on me, ever. So I just go fixed teams.
it's a good change, because the heroes tended to become all the same, without any particular characterization. If there was an elementary summoning among the choices, it was always a forced choice. This flattened the hero a lot, making it the same in every game.
Warfare, support, and magic were separated enough to provide unique customizations. Free-form was better, it's just that people abused op magelocks and killing momentum.
@@Ghaztoir Yeah, I agree. I don't udnerstand why people say all heroes were the same. There were well defined ways to build and equip heroes. Did it need refinement? Yes. Yet the more I look at this redesign the less sure I'm this is an improvement. Definitely not worse either, just different.
I haven't tried the new update, but it worries me. I hate how "locked in" skill trees are. Also what about all the skills you used to get from Tomes? I usually built my heroes based on my enemy and my culture.
@@Ghaztoir I mean "abuse" is kinda BS term. Killing Momentum on a 2-handed weapon charger was ALSO super bad ass, as was any ranged character. It just happened that Magelocks were GREAT weapons. I kept trying to get polearms to work, but they never felt as good as the other weapon options.
@Ghaztoir i don't think free form was bad, it was nice. I do like this new system much more. So much choices, flexibility, and build variety. I do love the new look skill tree, can really plan for the future easier in my opinion.
I'm not sure I like overspecialization of some path that blocks me from skills from another. I liked to be able to pick both physical offense and defense. Or defense/resistance/and buffing. And if killing momentum is now limited to warriors (despite still saying it works on magic attack kills) - it will be a big loss to rest of heroes.
In the beta, whenever i recruited a hero directly from my pantheon they had EVERY available hero skill in the game from level one. This caused the entire ability screen to bug and the hero didn't work properly. Just letting you know
@@Jayco2855 Okay… did you use the bug reporter? I’m legitimately asking cause you seem to be confused that there are bugs in a Beta. Beta exists to stress test and find the obvious bugs. But you as a Beta tester need to report them.
Great stuff but i feel like it's missing stuff for elements based. Can't seem to have a pure pyromancer mage or a pure druid plant & animal summoner. Also no hybrids characters anymore? Can't have a death knight with raise zombies? Maybe i missed that part.
Great rework, only the dragons make me a little sad that they can't choose a class in a different way and every nature dragon has to be a support, astral dragon mage, etc.
Will we get more than 3 hero picks for our race per game now? At least some way to reroll them would be nice, especially if we get stuck with classes that don't match the race build - which is almost guaranteed. EG: An Orc race focused on physical strength/retaliations but only getting mage type heroes who don't benefit from racial traits at all.
Is there a possibility for you to add hybrid classes with certain penalties for the sake of balance and offer flexibility at the same time similar to the dragons dogma vocations?
It wouldn't be bad to expand the mage skill tree in the future with some spells like stone wall, which could create an obstacle in the way and protect against shooting, or a fire wall ability, or some cloud spell which would protect against shooting, or some poison cloud, or some other interesting skills. you can play with mages very nicely and create interesting skills and different paths for the mages that they can take even if it blocks other paths
Amazing rework. It would just require some kind of dual dagger/sword weapon and a rogue class or an expansion of the ranger class with a smoke cloud, some blink for example and some form of assassin strike or assassin ability, which is already in the game. But very good work
I really like this update! Only drawback to me is limitation on weapon hero can use, no more wizard kings that like to smash their foes by giant axe (even oficial Yaka uses it!) =( And what weapon is considered to be used by skirmishers? Only corsair pistol+sabre?
@@mustacobra Huh? I've seen nothing about this and its my biggest complaint. So in those cases the "tome skills" have become free effect rather than buying for points?
@@Washeek yeah, most tome skills were taken and added to the skill tree that it would pertain to. Some were left out and some were added as free upgrades from grabbing the tome.
Indrid, I have been playing non stop since the update. One thing I have noticed is the AI plays much better on the combat arena. They keep their range units back and will withdraw them if threaten and they will not attack strong units if they are will take lots or damage in return or will not do much damage. They will tend to look for weaker spots in my line. I have seen the AI shift entire stacks towards a less defended/strong part of my line. This is a welcomed change.
I wish we would be able to customize the units freely as well. Like forge custom armour, weapons etc. for the units... That would be a true RPG experience in AoW4. A paid DLC or whatever, just please make it happen!
two things I think need fixed or addressed. The first is the new creating leader ui for selecting head and body stuff, if you own pantheon items there's no way to see all the options as they go offscreen. the second is that dragon lords are really strong atm.
The first one is likely a bug, there should be a scroll option but it isn't working probably. They actually mentioned that they are going to fix the secone one in the most recent stream as they know they messed up the numbers with the dragon rulers.
overall i like it , looks fun , my issue , i wiped 3 different faction off the map and after that other faction keep coming and coming and attacking me , more people should try it
Guys. Try playing as high culture with arctic adaptation, and push shadow tomes that have nothing to do with souls or undead. And now Mix that with order tomes that give you unit enchantments & unlock units such as Inquisitor. Ah, and go for -100 alignment. High culture gets nice bonuses for being pure evil
Don't skill trees ALSO make heroes look the same? With Free Form it was the player's choice to look the same, but with Skill Tress you're forced into specific paths.
finally the info i was waiting on so much! can i change my class with swapping out weapon? is the locked between two horizontal skill means its either but not both?!
@@timecrystal5thapostleof125 do we still going to have respec? what about the heroes? (not your ruler) i have to hire them based on what class i want or they going to be like "feel free to pick me a class mate!"?
@@Wayfaring_Stranger the classes of recruitable heroes are predetermined already so you can't change them, but you will be able to reroll them. And you still can respec the abilities of the hero, but not the class. However you cna change class of your leader once it ascends
I am a PS5 player, I hope that this rework will not cause the bug that prevents the creation of new factions, because on console, to correct this, you had to delete the complete save of the game.
I know this probably incredibly low on people's lists of thoughts. But as a console player I'm interested to see if the PS5 Pro offers AoW4 any improvement at all? People have been so negative, but the more recent footage of even something like Bloodborne outputting a nicer image quality with zero patch or update, makes me hopeful.
Wow, these developers. Thougt I was done with this game. So much to dive into. And then..... need to start downloading new season packs. Love this game. A suggestion for Feudal culture. Give their heroes extra skill points that can only be used on special govern perks.
Love it. Deeper conection to your affinity. Upgrading abilities raether than ending up with more abilities than you have turns to use, every hero more characterfull and every level up very meaningful. I do with there was more of a link between a govener and their city though. Eg. A mutual buff when they are within it teretory
I am not saying any of this is bad, but it is very confusing for a casual player. I don't play that often, but every time I start playing again, something major has changed in the game and I have to relearn stuff.
Yeah, their rate of updates is too damn high. Wouldn't complain, but there are indications that some features would have profited from more time in the oven. Especially making sure that all the old stuff plays nicely with new stuff. This smells like "The Paradox way" and that is no bono.
The game has been out for more than a year, and this is the biggest change to date, mechanic wise ... Just be patient and it will all click, this is an amazing game and we love this contents and updates...
@@Pretender717 I do love the Triumph studio to bits. They're like the last guys on the market that I trust with my money. I also do love to grumble whenever they do stuff differently than I'd like to. And tbh have been a little worried ever since the release schedule for DLCs has been announced for AoW 4. Would be sad if the game ended up a hot mess that no-one can maintain properly (design wise).
This is the sort of UI / structure update that I always wanted for almost every part of the game. So much more easier to track where I am, how far I advanced, what are the possible unlocks, how many slots I have for this and that, it's an easy to understand at a glimpse system. Something the Tomes could also desperately use: if not for Wiki / Reddit, I wouldn't know how many Tomes I need from a tier to unlock the next Tier, and how many Tomes can I have from each Tier. Extremely important info the game doesn't tell me.
Yikes, what a mixed bag kind of updates. Spellcasters can no longer take the absolutely vital run skill to disengage from melee? Oof. No more randomized signature skills is a small upside tho. Does this also mean that unlocking tomes no longer grants access to their respective hero traits? Or how is that supposed to work now?
If you guys could extend something like this to the units of a faction. Something like Millitary traditions that further tweak the specific units you bring to the field. No offense but that's really the only thing I want to see after this expansion, getting +1 to a stat for leveling up is really lame when your loyal starting swordsman is unable to keep up with a more updated roster of units it always feels pretty bad.
"when your loyal starting swordsman is unable to keep up with a more updated roster of units it always feels pretty bad" Is there any game you've seen do this? I call those games RPGs. Maybe fallen enchantress where there's a chance to modify the units. If you want to play with your T1 runts you'll have to invest heavily into buffs and also outproduce your opponent, you will be playing the numbers game. There's no reason an elite T1 should be able to go toe to toe with recruit T4.
@@Washeek There is an entire class of units dedicated to reaching max veterancy just so they can become exponentially more powerful. It's a cool concept that is only present in a few units, takes way too much time to reach for it to not be awkward and really should be updated. Like I said, using a unit extensively just to get a +1 in defense feels bad but with something like unit tradition that gives xp to a pool of said unit and then unlocks general passives or stats is a mechanic that can make chaff centered factions much more viable by making units you use a lot more effective. AoW is an fantasy grand strategy rpg, a mechanic like this was present in AoW3 and I don't see why it shouldn't in 4.
Dragon Rulers taking another nerf (albeit indirectly), ontop of what will likely make heroes even more tedious... Being blunt at this rate, I'd honestly consider just removing the hero system entirely, this is getting to Neverwinter levels of "It really wasn't broken so why do you keep trying to fix it?" Dragon Rulers get forced into a class because of their element? That's an awful idea get rid of that. Weapon Determines class and weapon-locks the hero? Awful idea, again kick it to the curb and into the bin where it belongs. Like these aren't fun changes, their just gonna make me avoid getting heroes more then introducing the hard-cap already does, or just looking into modding heroes back to how they used to be before he Hard-Cap on PC, these are just plain awful decisions and between Planetfall's lack luster support and unstable state and the constant awful changes to AoW4, I am honestly second guessing if the game is actually worth supporting as someone who has bought the game, and I think I will start sticking to Galdius or Endless Legend, where I can actually customize my heroes how I want to.
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Important note: Only Champion gets the Command ability (and the upgrade to it). Recruited heroes still have the other Origin skills the champion has.
Champion is also getting +20% bonus xp to themselves instead of non-heroes, so they can power through skill trees fast.
what is a champion, whats the dif between ruler and hero and champion
@@rygyouwill5293 Champion, Wizard King, Dragon or Eldritch.
A class of your godir
Wouldn't it be possible to add fairy lords in the future? We already have big dragons, eldritch sovereigns and next be giants, and we would also like something small, and fairies are interesting and have many possibilities for visuals and skills, and some kind of fairy form would be great, we already have people, elves, dwarfs and many animals forms, or at least some type of transformation into a fairy like we have the transformation into angels and demons, and some more fey wildlifes like leprechaunts, satyrs, dryads or other different types of fairies, or a Satyr form wouldn't be bad (the lower half of the body is animal with hooves and the upper half is human ) and some Centaur transformation would be great
Looks amazing! Can't wait to make a real Necromancer Shaman orc build 😁
My life for nerzhul
@denisddd9362 The boy held you back, and now you are free. We are one, Arthas. Together, we are the Lich King.
@@denisddd9362 “Complete the circle…return the blade…RELEASE ME FROM THIS PRISON!!!”
Some of the hero ambitions you guys made are super specific that you’d have to build a realm with it in mind. Like Crusader and fighting undead or demon enemies. Yet others like prospector or shepherd can be gained by doing what you’d do naturally. So you get rank 4 super quickly or you get nothing at all.
I like all the updates AoW4 has gotten over the year+ development cycle, I just wish the diplomacy aspect and AI behavior got looked at. It's annoying that at times their behavior changes so fast or they get triggered so easily. Or the fact they still spam low tier units the whole game. Those areas getting looked at would be great for single player people.
The diplomacy AI is pretty predictable. What's your actual gripe with it? It's simple, maybe not very well telegraphed, so some explanation may raise your enjoyment of the game.
yea, i agreed with the low tier spam thingy, they supposed to show exhaust in resources after a while especially if we wiped 4 or 5 of their fullstack army
@@Washeek I mean for one the threat level system makes no sense what so ever. I can be last place in a game and the AI be "omg your a threat" -400 opinion.
@@UnderKingDuck Do you know they explained how the threat level actually works and that it isn't at all based just on your proximity and military ability/ranking?
The most important modifier are affinities comparison. If their primary affinity and your primary affinity are the same that should strongly tank the threat rating. Ofc. on higher diff. the AI are super agressive towards the player and why shouldn't they? If you played with a strong player as a weak player wouldn't you consider them a threat to your ability to win the map?
@@Washeek The main problem with the AI diplomacy it that it very rarely declares war on you, allowing the player to freely dictate who they fight and when. Sure you can get grievances and they even fabricate them sometimes but it's very easy to just buy these off and leaving the AI in a state where it wont declare war. Really wish the imperium loss for declaring unjust wars would be exempted for the AI so they can more easily declare war. In 1k hours+ I have NEVER had a single AI declare war on me, ever. So I just go fixed teams.
Awesome update and more support for my lich build with the summon stuff in ritual.Thank you 🌹
it's a good change, because the heroes tended to become all the same, without any particular characterization. If there was an elementary summoning among the choices, it was always a forced choice. This flattened the hero a lot, making it the same in every game.
Warfare, support, and magic were separated enough to provide unique customizations. Free-form was better, it's just that people abused op magelocks and killing momentum.
@@Ghaztoir Yeah, I agree. I don't udnerstand why people say all heroes were the same. There were well defined ways to build and equip heroes. Did it need refinement? Yes. Yet the more I look at this redesign the less sure I'm this is an improvement. Definitely not worse either, just different.
@@alarm2299 idk maybe because there were objectively good choices no matter what weapon you put in :0?
I haven't tried the new update, but it worries me. I hate how "locked in" skill trees are. Also what about all the skills you used to get from Tomes? I usually built my heroes based on my enemy and my culture.
@@Ghaztoir I mean "abuse" is kinda BS term. Killing Momentum on a 2-handed weapon charger was ALSO super bad ass, as was any ranged character. It just happened that Magelocks were GREAT weapons.
I kept trying to get polearms to work, but they never felt as good as the other weapon options.
each hero will seem special and unique now
Free-form was better.
@@GhaztoirMe Me Me Me.
Gamers at their worst, whine and bitch constantly.
@Ghaztoir i don't think free form was bad, it was nice. I do like this new system much more. So much choices, flexibility, and build variety. I do love the new look skill tree, can really plan for the future easier in my opinion.
Wow this really makes a big change for me
Cant wait to play when the changes come out :)
I'm not sure I like overspecialization of some path that blocks me from skills from another. I liked to be able to pick both physical offense and defense. Or defense/resistance/and buffing.
And if killing momentum is now limited to warriors (despite still saying it works on magic attack kills) - it will be a big loss to rest of heroes.
this rework looks fantastic, great work!
In the beta, whenever i recruited a hero directly from my pantheon they had EVERY available hero skill in the game from level one. This caused the entire ability screen to bug and the hero didn't work properly. Just letting you know
Report as bug. That is what beta is for.
@@Jayco2855 Okay… did you use the bug reporter? I’m legitimately asking cause you seem to be confused that there are bugs in a Beta.
Beta exists to stress test and find the obvious bugs. But you as a Beta tester need to report them.
@ Of course, worry not. I only wrote this comment to further point it out, increasing the chances of developers seeing it. Though i already regret it
@@Jayco2855 no problem, I didn't mean to lecture, all fine.
Comments like this bring out the self righteous butt munchers. Don't let it discourage you.
Great stuff but i feel like it's missing stuff for elements based. Can't seem to have a pure pyromancer mage or a pure druid plant & animal summoner.
Also no hybrids characters anymore? Can't have a death knight with raise zombies? Maybe i missed that part.
@IndridCasts 0:30 i see you brought a friend to Paradox's Homeland, good to see you, Sir Rha'vel the Radiant Crusader! ❤
Great rework, only the dragons make me a little sad that they can't choose a class in a different way and every nature dragon has to be a support, astral dragon mage, etc.
Same. Dragons are my favorite ruler too.
someone forgot the music 🥴
YOU dont need music when indird speaks
Found this video by chance, I did not expect indrid to be voicing the video 😮.
This looks so awesome. Is like a whole new level for the game
Will we get more than 3 hero picks for our race per game now?
At least some way to reroll them would be nice, especially if we get stuck with classes that don't match the race build - which is almost guaranteed.
EG: An Orc race focused on physical strength/retaliations but only getting mage type heroes who don't benefit from racial traits at all.
These videos are so informative and entertaining. Normally I get bored by stuff like this, but Indrid makes it fun! 😃
Is there a possibility for you to add hybrid classes with certain penalties for the sake of balance and offer flexibility at the same time similar to the dragons dogma vocations?
Why did classes have to be restricted??
It wouldn't be bad to expand the mage skill tree in the future with some spells like stone wall, which could create an obstacle in the way and protect against shooting, or a fire wall ability, or some cloud spell which would protect against shooting, or some poison cloud, or some other interesting skills. you can play with mages very nicely and create interesting skills and different paths for the mages that they can take even if it blocks other paths
Amazing rework. It would just require some kind of dual dagger/sword weapon and a rogue class or an expansion of the ranger class with a smoke cloud, some blink for example and some form of assassin strike or assassin ability, which is already in the game. But very good work
I really like this update! Only drawback to me is limitation on weapon hero can use, no more wizard kings that like to smash their foes by giant axe (even oficial Yaka uses it!) =( And what weapon is considered to be used by skirmishers? Only corsair pistol+sabre?
I think it looks nice but i loved that picking tomes also affected your hero ... so i dont know how to feel about that part ...
Some Tomes still gives To effect when Tome is picked, like New sacred fire Tome from elrich dlc
@@mustacobra Huh? I've seen nothing about this and its my biggest complaint.
So in those cases the "tome skills" have become free effect rather than buying for points?
@@Washeek yeah, most tome skills were taken and added to the skill tree that it would pertain to. Some were left out and some were added as free upgrades from grabbing the tome.
I hope we get to wee multiclassing for heros
Indrid, I have been playing non stop since the update. One thing I have noticed is the AI plays much better on the combat arena. They keep their range units back and will withdraw them if threaten and they will not attack strong units if they are will take lots or damage in return or will not do much damage. They will tend to look for weaker spots in my line. I have seen the AI shift entire stacks towards a less defended/strong part of my line. This is a welcomed change.
This game is fun, and I'm looking forward to having more fun in it.
More Hybrid choices would be great, however limiting heroes to certain weapons I feel is a bad move.
So many possibilities to add some more roleplay. Specially like the options for the dragons.
I wish we would be able to customize the units freely as well. Like forge custom armour, weapons etc. for the units... That would be a true RPG experience in AoW4. A paid DLC or whatever, just please make it happen!
two things I think need fixed or addressed. The first is the new creating leader ui for selecting head and body stuff, if you own pantheon items there's no way to see all the options as they go offscreen. the second is that dragon lords are really strong atm.
Those two are being adressed rn and should be fixed by the time WoW is released
The first one is likely a bug, there should be a scroll option but it isn't working probably. They actually mentioned that they are going to fix the secone one in the most recent stream as they know they messed up the numbers with the dragon rulers.
This will be a interesting change definitely.
Very excited.
overall i like it , looks fun , my issue , i wiped 3 different faction off the map and after that other faction keep coming and coming and attacking me , more people should try it
Guys. Try playing as high culture with arctic adaptation, and push shadow tomes that have nothing to do with souls or undead.
And now Mix that with order tomes that give you unit enchantments & unlock units such as Inquisitor.
Ah, and go for -100 alignment. High culture gets nice bonuses for being pure evil
In changed all my heroes in the middle of a game!!!
Don't skill trees ALSO make heroes look the same? With Free Form it was the player's choice to look the same, but with Skill Tress you're forced into specific paths.
bingo
100%, they made it worse, not better
Im here hoping for a "assasin" class soon.
What do you mean by class? There is a new unit in the new tome which is assassin like:)
finally the info i was waiting on so much!
can i change my class with swapping out weapon?
is the locked between two horizontal skill means its either but not both?!
1. No you can't change hero classes
2. Those with locks are mutually exclusive, so it's either or
@@timecrystal5thapostleof125 do we still going to have respec? what about the heroes? (not your ruler) i have to hire them based on what class i want or they going to be like "feel free to pick me a class mate!"?
@@Wayfaring_Stranger the classes of recruitable heroes are predetermined already so you can't change them, but you will be able to reroll them. And you still can respec the abilities of the hero, but not the class. However you cna change class of your leader once it ascends
Interesting. It seems the devs took some inspiration from Fallen Enchantress: Legendary Heroes.
Good stuff right here the more customization the better.
Playing it on the Beta server and it is very amazing
Missing some music or something
Indrid!!!
I am addicted to skill trees. Give me more and bigger plz 😁 Both the free and paid content looks amazing. Cant wait to try it.
I am a PS5 player, I hope that this rework will not cause the bug that prevents the creation of new factions, because on console, to correct this, you had to delete the complete save of the game.
I know this probably incredibly low on people's lists of thoughts. But as a console player I'm interested to see if the PS5 Pro offers AoW4 any improvement at all?
People have been so negative, but the more recent footage of even something like Bloodborne outputting a nicer image quality with zero patch or update, makes me hopeful.
Great stuff
This is AWESOME
WAIT A SECOND, u didn’t talk about skills from books, how do they work??? Are they gon??? My gilded mage???
I’m assuming we’ll be able to edit our existing rulers to choose their ambitions
Do the signature skills also GRANT an affinity point? If not, that'll really slow progression.
I am ready for the Age of Wonders MMO
So will heroes come with culture traits now? It would be awkward for fuedal hero’s to not get the defense bonus, high to not get awaken…
Still missing a Undead "form" that was in Age of Wonders 1. It would be nice to play as proper Undead again...
Wait a minute, there is dragon aura skill in dragon skill tree?! :O
INDRID 🙌
Skill Trees! We are eating so good!
This is good. Finally my heroes will be different
After watching this video, the idea comes to my mind - is it worthy to play as Wizard King now.
Keep refining and Ill keep sending you money - this I swear to you good sirs
Skill tree rework is awesome !
What will happen to my ongoing games when the patch hits?. Will my skills for heroes and champ be reset
Hmm, it's been a while since I played, does this mean you don't get any skills from specific tomes anymore?
Variety is the spice of Age Of Wonders.
Isn't pathing in tree more limited than just selecting from big list and thus less variety?
God these devs always cook so hard each update
Wow, these developers. Thougt I was done with this game. So much to dive into. And then..... need to start downloading new season packs.
Love this game.
A suggestion for Feudal culture. Give their heroes extra skill points that can only be used on special govern perks.
Love it. Deeper conection to your affinity. Upgrading abilities raether than ending up with more abilities than you have turns to use, every hero more characterfull and every level up very meaningful.
I do with there was more of a link between a govener and their city though. Eg. A mutual buff when they are within it teretory
Its good and all but what happen to medieval society which add special hero trait? Is it gone?
For hero’s that have already been sent to the pantheon, can you adjust them without having to replay them to do that?
So hero is not just there for affinity now
Do tomes still add new skill options for heroes?
i need to rework my chaos dragon now
INCREDIBLE! Can't wait!
No music in this video?
HELL YES
Bro forgot the background music.
Hero classes mod is now dead , I wish it would work with the new system but kinda looks impossible
I am not saying any of this is bad, but it is very confusing for a casual player. I don't play that often, but every time I start playing again, something major has changed in the game and I have to relearn stuff.
This.
Yeah, their rate of updates is too damn high.
Wouldn't complain, but there are indications that some features would have profited from more time in the oven. Especially making sure that all the old stuff plays nicely with new stuff. This smells like "The Paradox way" and that is no bono.
The game has been out for more than a year, and this is the biggest change to date, mechanic wise ... Just be patient and it will all click, this is an amazing game and we love this contents and updates...
@@Pretender717 I do love the Triumph studio to bits. They're like the last guys on the market that I trust with my money.
I also do love to grumble whenever they do stuff differently than I'd like to. And tbh have been a little worried ever since the release schedule for DLCs has been announced for AoW 4.
Would be sad if the game ended up a hot mess that no-one can maintain properly (design wise).
Color me impressed. I cant wait to get my hands on this!
Let us save created Heroes for other games please.
This is the sort of UI / structure update that I always wanted for almost every part of the game. So much more easier to track where I am, how far I advanced, what are the possible unlocks, how many slots I have for this and that, it's an easy to understand at a glimpse system. Something the Tomes could also desperately use: if not for Wiki / Reddit, I wouldn't know how many Tomes I need from a tier to unlock the next Tier, and how many Tomes can I have from each Tier. Extremely important info the game doesn't tell me.
I love this but..why make a whole skirmisher hero tree when there is only literally ONE skirmisher weapon with no skin or roleplay options in ANY way
You probably found out already but there are now sword+crossbow skirmisher options for a handful of other cultures.
@AnaatthiGozo i did and i am SO hyped for it
Also on consoles?
What is the max hero level?
It seems to be an awesome work! GJ!
Does the tiger update have a release date yet?
Today 05.November.2024
Yikes, what a mixed bag kind of updates.
Spellcasters can no longer take the absolutely vital run skill to disengage from melee? Oof.
No more randomized signature skills is a small upside tho.
Does this also mean that unlocking tomes no longer grants access to their respective hero traits? Or how is that supposed to work now?
If you guys could extend something like this to the units of a faction. Something like Millitary traditions that further tweak the specific units you bring to the field. No offense but that's really the only thing I want to see after this expansion, getting +1 to a stat for leveling up is really lame when your loyal starting swordsman is unable to keep up with a more updated roster of units it always feels pretty bad.
"when your loyal starting swordsman is unable to keep up with a more updated roster of units it always feels pretty bad"
Is there any game you've seen do this?
I call those games RPGs.
Maybe fallen enchantress where there's a chance to modify the units. If you want to play with your T1 runts you'll have to invest heavily into buffs and also outproduce your opponent, you will be playing the numbers game. There's no reason an elite T1 should be able to go toe to toe with recruit T4.
@@Washeek There is an entire class of units dedicated to reaching max veterancy just so they can become exponentially more powerful. It's a cool concept that is only present in a few units, takes way too much time to reach for it to not be awkward and really should be updated. Like I said, using a unit extensively just to get a +1 in defense feels bad but with something like unit tradition that gives xp to a pool of said unit and then unlocks general passives or stats is a mechanic that can make chaff centered factions much more viable by making units you use a lot more effective.
AoW is an fantasy grand strategy rpg, a mechanic like this was present in AoW3 and I don't see why it shouldn't in 4.
@@ayuvir Do you mean units with evolve?
Will this go live for consoles?
Yes, although I can only confirm on Xbox as that's what I have 😅
Quite like the new talent system, feels much more coherent and easier to overview than scrolling endlessly
This feels like its a hinderance then a buff.
Not sure about this seems to linear to me.
In the future, wouldn't it be possible to create heroes (no ruler) who could appear in the game together with randomly generated heroes?
Time to reinstall
Indrid Sellsout (jk)
This is one of the best modern RTS games to come out in the last 5+yrs
@@mfinuka2557 its NOT RTS. Its turn strategy
Dragon Rulers taking another nerf (albeit indirectly), ontop of what will likely make heroes even more tedious...
Being blunt at this rate, I'd honestly consider just removing the hero system entirely, this is getting to Neverwinter levels of "It really wasn't broken so why do you keep trying to fix it?"
Dragon Rulers get forced into a class because of their element? That's an awful idea get rid of that.
Weapon Determines class and weapon-locks the hero? Awful idea, again kick it to the curb and into the bin where it belongs.
Like these aren't fun changes, their just gonna make me avoid getting heroes more then introducing the hard-cap already does, or just looking into modding heroes back to how they used to be before he Hard-Cap on PC,
these are just plain awful decisions and between Planetfall's lack luster support and unstable state and the constant awful changes to AoW4, I am honestly second guessing if the game is actually worth supporting as someone who has bought the game, and I think I will start sticking to Galdius or Endless Legend, where I can actually customize my heroes how I want to.