Biggest "Bang for Your Buck" GMT Watch? | Seiko Prospex GMT Review

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  • The biggest bang for your buck GMT? This is a review of the Seiko Prospex “Marine Green” GMT reference SPB381J1. Is this watch worth the asking price?
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  • @watchfinder
    @watchfinder  ปีที่แล้ว +6

    We know you want more watches…. click here: linktr.ee/watchfinder

  • @philiplauzon1743
    @philiplauzon1743 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I just tried it on and it’s pretty much love at first sight. I don’t have a GMT and don’t travel all that much. This fits the budget and the need. The finishing is next level and that green is perfect

  • @Nightfury0695
    @Nightfury0695 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    If people think the 42mm case is large, go try it on and you will be blown away by how small this watch wears. The MM200 case is just magic and complicated design that Seiko just gets right.

    • @unwokeneuropean3590
      @unwokeneuropean3590 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      My wrist is 16cm... Would take your bet.

    • @josephmarucci3528
      @josephmarucci3528 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It wears real small 100%

    • @Altanabstick
      @Altanabstick ปีที่แล้ว

      Is it the same case as the spb185 or is this one thicker?

    • @Nightfury0695
      @Nightfury0695 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Altanabstick Same case as 185, just 0.4mm thicker due to the GMT movement. This comes down to 12.9mm vs 12.5 thick on the standard MM200

    • @Altanabstick
      @Altanabstick ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Nightfury0695 Shame! Love that case, but wouldn't want it any thicker under my office outfit

  • @nikonneer741
    @nikonneer741 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    I was wearing my Aqua Terra 41 golf (white dial) when I tried this in Seiko Boutique. I was blown away by how small it wears; how slim it looked like and how comfortable the bracelet is. My Aqua Terra suddenly became slightly larger and thicker to look at when I compared both.

    • @Apex_Apeq
      @Apex_Apeq ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Sometimes, Seiko watches are a magic

  • @LeongLeeLing
    @LeongLeeLing ปีที่แล้ว +11

    If they can improve the clasp and diver extension... a lot of money, but, I'm still waiting for a full blue, this is so damn good looking

    • @evgen5647
      @evgen5647 ปีที่แล้ว

      Isn't it patented?

    • @leongleeling7256
      @leongleeling7256 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wish they could have being milled. The Seiko's do look a bit outdated

  • @istvantoth7431
    @istvantoth7431 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    I preferred the OG 'talking hand' / old microphones vids. (No offence)

    • @dennischen8887
      @dennischen8887 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      You calling him ugly? Lmao

    • @Not-a-bot222
      @Not-a-bot222 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I agree. At first I enjoyed the new format…but I miss the incredible macro shots and cheeky humor without any of the focus on the influencer. Still a top three watch channel in my opinion. I also enjoy many others but notably TGV, and YourTerrific. Watchbox is up there along with the likes of Adrian Barker and Osian (sorry spelling). Anyway, not sure anyone cares my opinion, but I rambled on anyway. Cheers

    • @abhi4ify
      @abhi4ify 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Totally agree.. I think the quality of the audio deprecated once they started to have him on video

  • @DuckieJan
    @DuckieJan ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Looks professional yet still has that tool watch vibe. Great review. Seiko will always has it, even tho they get criticize a lot because of the higher price. I'd rather have the name and reliability than buying cheaper alternative. 👍

  • @bevan8477
    @bevan8477 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I bought one 24 hours ago. Black. I am far more accustomed to Grand Seiko, and for finish, and style, this is respectively equal, and superior. The latter because I don’t know of a GS with a bracelet this attractive, especially in regards to its more compact and ideal dimensions, nor do GS have a diver of this lovely size (I’m waiting for them to do a realistically sized diver like this). Speaking of size, this Seiko looks and wears like a 40mm watch, which I prefer to any larger size. The finish of every aspect is not only objectively high end (seemingly similar to and in some ways better than a Submariner) but also is remarkable given that it’s a fifth the price of a sub and half the price of any Tudor “equivalent” such as Black Bay 58. And I prefer the bracelet to both Rolex oyster and Tudor’s oddly riveted equivalent. I also find the very masculine side and rear views very satisfying, and more attractive than said Sub and Tudor. The only bummers for me are that it’s lacking the snob value that gives an extra sense of pride, and more importantly, I’m really unimpressed with the accuracy rating. I feel that these are the only prices I’ve paid for the low price versus GS, Rolex or Tudor near equivalents.

  • @dbiwatches1891
    @dbiwatches1891 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I own 2 watches,a rolex gmt and a seiko. I honestly love wearing the seiko as much as my rolex. Honestly, if I had to make a decision on owning one watch, only I think a Seiko would probably be the choice!

    • @john-carlosynostroza
      @john-carlosynostroza ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I feel the same way about my casio's. Love the one nice mechanical watch I have but probably had to have one it would be my $20 Casio worldtimer

  • @ajmarion
    @ajmarion 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I need this, the case looks amazing - MM200 case is easily one of Seiko’s best. Caller GMT is good for me, I rarely travel abroad so a flyer GMT just makes things less convenient

  • @stuartpeacock1576
    @stuartpeacock1576 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Awesome well researched review. Very interesting ISO Diver rating with GMT now that’s cool. IMO ceramic bezel upgrade with new in-house 3 day calibre make this good value I think. Love the green colour way too. Seiko quality speaks for itself it seems to me…

  • @sdaafasfad
    @sdaafasfad ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This channel has always had impeccable videography but I'm really impressed with how things have changed recently, with the 'mini podcast' style episodes showing the people behind the voices and now with this video, where Andrew is talking to us with his mouth and not his hands - it's a surprising change but a refreshing one. I'd like to see some kind of differentiation between both styles of video but that's just me being picky. Keep it up team, you're going from strength to strength ❤️

    • @sdaafasfad
      @sdaafasfad ปีที่แล้ว

      OK it's gone too far now I want the old one back 😭😂

  • @manualbo1879
    @manualbo1879 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    People, this watch has it all: perfect size, finishing high level, ceramic bezel, gmt mvt with 70h pr, adjustable bracelet, 200M wr.
    And all for a very reasonable price (including discounts easily obtainable with seiko). No competition at this price point.

  • @stevens1041
    @stevens1041 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    There is no substitute for the watch you want. I like Seiko for Seiko, regardless of the price. Plus my AD takes care of me, I have never paid MSRP. I stick to the classic designs, marine master, willard, a few others. That’s a good technique for many brands.

  • @vincentmarx171
    @vincentmarx171 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Looks like my Seiko "Sumo" I have in dark blue I paid about 500€ but indeed the finishing looks way better than the one I have with aluminum bezel and non saphire glass

  • @DANIELCHIA74
    @DANIELCHIA74 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Finally gotten my hand on this diver, waited for months for its release and now its finally on my wrist. Very well made, hands set polishing, indices and the green dial and bezel is just the perfect color tone . The bezel turn action while a bit soft is rather satisfying with enough feedback and it aligns perfectly.

    • @lockhandel
      @lockhandel ปีที่แล้ว

      How well is it keeping time?

    • @alfonsoalvarez8357
      @alfonsoalvarez8357 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Perfectly aligned? You mist have gotten a fake

    • @ithper
      @ithper ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lockhandelmines at +2 seconds a day

    • @edvincentiiialbano8890
      @edvincentiiialbano8890 ปีที่แล้ว

      How is the bracelet?

    • @ithper
      @ithper ปีที่แล้ว

      @@edvincentiiialbano8890 feels cheap.

  • @roderickos3980
    @roderickos3980 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nothing awkwardly about the date window placement. In fact it's the most appropriate place on the dial, my favourite.

  • @uralpilot
    @uralpilot ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I recently purchased the solar version SFK003 of this watch as a replacement for my "luxury" watch and I am extremely pleased with it. Par usual for Seiko, pulling way above its weight.

  • @petedriggs
    @petedriggs ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I would consider this Tool watch perfection! I wish more manufacturers made this type of design, a normal dive watch bezel, with an internal GMT ring and GMT hand. Glad to see someone finally made this, without an obnoxious design. (Citizen are you listening?) I wish Rolex would do this. I think they did many years ago, but those are hard to find. Rolex Sea-Dweller GMT! Am I the only one that would buy it?
    Can we get it with spring drive? I like more accurate watches.
    Thank you for this video.

    • @jpdemer5
      @jpdemer5 ปีที่แล้ว

      There are GS GMTs with Spring Drive . . . I have one . . . but they cost a wee bit more.

    • @petedriggs
      @petedriggs ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jpdemer5 True, and I do know about them. I have only seen the spring drive GMT with a GMT 24 hour bezel. Is there one with a 60 minute dive Bezel that I do not know about? It has more utility, in my opinion. I would prefer the prospex pricing. They make a Prospex spring drive dive watch. I've kept my eye out for those. They are on the wish list, but would get bumped by this concept, if I found it.

    • @jpdemer5
      @jpdemer5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@petedriggs A GMT with a 60-minute bezel would be an odd beast; as a general rule you get one or the other regardless of brand.

  • @anandanil8158
    @anandanil8158 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Hey iv always loved the content on this channel and really enjoyed how the content was focused on the watch, paired with you narration every video told a complete story and the visual focus on the watch let me be immersed in said story.
    While I really like that we can see the individual behind the work in the podcast series and on AMW channel. I personally feel that the old style was better and overall more immersive

    • @tbread1128
      @tbread1128 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, I agree. The videos with the blue backgrounds, with Tom &co, are completely fine with the new format.
      But i agree 100% that these videos are much better with the talking hands.

    • @Ex.zed.
      @Ex.zed. ปีที่แล้ว

      Yesssss!

    • @ficko88
      @ficko88 ปีที่แล้ว

      Signed!

    • @craigdgriffiths6206
      @craigdgriffiths6206 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree. I think the narrator feels that it’s time to build his personal brand. However, the old format was more classy.

  • @zanef28
    @zanef28 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love my glacier version! Super well made for the money, more “Grand Seiko than Seiko”. I am going to sell my SPB299 now

    • @lockhandel
      @lockhandel ปีที่แล้ว

      I am also confused between the green version and the glacier version. Convince me in favor of the glacier version.

    • @zanef28
      @zanef28 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lockhandelcan’t go wrong with either one TBH

    • @Ali-cz6vg
      @Ali-cz6vg ปีที่แล้ว

      What about the black one?

  • @RonaldCzik
    @RonaldCzik ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Honestly, I think the Christopher Ward GMTs (C65 Aquitaine, C63 Sealander, and C60 Anthropocene) are not just a better, they're less expensive.

    • @Culturalgazelle
      @Culturalgazelle ปีที่แล้ว +5

      They are great, but even though it sounds silly, I just hate the name of the brand lol

    • @vce2103
      @vce2103 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Agreed. The CW logo is awful too…

  • @alunjones2550
    @alunjones2550 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Glad you mentioned the finishing. I was thinking exactly the same. I just wish Seiko would put a little more investment in their bracelets!!!
    If these said "Swiss Made", the prospect of spending £1400 wouldn't be an issue for many I think, but for the Seiko fans, I think they'll be smiling.

    • @m7eung
      @m7eung ปีที่แล้ว +2

      People buying it may find it so worthy as the bracelet quality is so close to grand seiko which is triple the price. Interesting watch.

    • @HarryFlashmanVC
      @HarryFlashmanVC ปีที่แล้ว

      I've been buying Seiko watches for years - the two essential aspects to remember is 1/ the boxes are crap 2/budget for a quality AM bracelet. I don't mind either for an SKX or a Turtle but when spending in excess of £1200 I would prefer a half decent bracelet when you consider what Chris Ward, Oris and NHT are able to peddle. The boxes are a bit of a cliche now - but I really don't care that much and it saves a lot of space not having to store some flippin wooden box with an encyclopedia of paper you would never ever read.

    • @alunjones2550
      @alunjones2550 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HarryFlashmanVC As an engineer looking at the issue, a good bracelet shouldn't cost much-if any- more than a poor bracelet. It's down to design. Seiko have a lot of brand loyalty but if they keep bumping up the prices without fixing some of these issues, people will look elsewhere.

  • @haroldmiller7672
    @haroldmiller7672 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    At the price point there is really nothing close in terms of finishing. We will have to wait and see the quality of the new movement, although early reviews are very promising. Seiko has cleverly used its capability of high class finishing and, although a great bracelet, saved a little on the bracelet and movement (no 28k 6R64) to get evening under £2k. I think it a good decision and they key thing is this is absolutely beautiful. Some will pay an extra £1000 for an 8L derived movement, but most will probably be happy with this package.

  • @watchreviews4k
    @watchreviews4k ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting content. Keep up the good work on your channel. Regards, WR4K.

  • @Pasta1nc
    @Pasta1nc ปีที่แล้ว +6

    There's been Presage GMT's, man...

  • @moneymikz
    @moneymikz ปีที่แล้ว +80

    Idk Orient is giving them a run for their money

    • @karlsenula9495
      @karlsenula9495 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yeah I'd say Orient and some of the micro-brands are better value watches - especially since Seiko quickly sells their movements to other brands (including Aliexpress brands) including the new NH34.
      Also since Seiko refuses to address some of their spec and QC issues (pressed clasps, usually mineral crystal, and misaligned bezels) all while significantly bumping up their prices I think this bumps them from the best value brand.

    • @rookie4619
      @rookie4619 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      £1400 for this Seiko seems rather pricey

    • @c0rndog748
      @c0rndog748 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Seiko is giving seiko a run for seikos money?

    • @sylinmino
      @sylinmino ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Orient will often match with on-paper specs, but their finishing is *way* worse across the price points. Also, I don't know if Orient has a True GMT watch at the moment.

    • @barryvercueil2346
      @barryvercueil2346 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      True that. Orient is the new Seiko. BTW do they have a GMT though?

  • @bullnose01
    @bullnose01 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The bezel looks to be about a half click off. Was that due to the videographer's error or classic Seiko misalignment?

  • @RedwoodAggie
    @RedwoodAggie ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I think this is a beautiful watch. I do wish there was a bit high accuracy committed to by Seiko, as mentioned. The Powermatic movements certainly run much tighter tolerances. Good call out on the Mido comparison. I thought of that one and its offering of a traveler GMT movement. I'm not surprised that the Seiko is a bit better finished, but I've not gotten to handle any Midos (not common in the U.S.). I love that this is a fully diver rated watch, but a traveler GMT movement would make more sense with the thought being that somebody is traveling to some far away island for a bit of diving. Other than that and the awkward date, I have no complaints. I really like this release and can't wait to get up to my AD to get one on wrist.

    • @charliezobel511
      @charliezobel511 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’ve got no idea why Seiko have come out with such outlandish numbers because this watch’s accuracy is excellent. I know the internet is alive with BS and you’ll probably be wondering how I can make such a statement seeing that officially it only launched today or yesterday but you’ll just have to take my word for it that the piece I know of has only lost two or three seconds in a week.

    • @RedwoodAggie
      @RedwoodAggie ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@charliezobel511 It's probably just to keep warranty claims down. I have a 3-1/2yo 6R15 Alpinist keeping +3 secs/day, while my 3yo King Turtle 4R36 is running a sluggish -20 secs/day.

    • @charliezobel511
      @charliezobel511 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RedwoodAggie yeah it’s definitely about warranty claims, although I’ll be interested to see how accurate it is a couple of years down the line. I’ve had my fair share watches over the years and I found my Chronomat B01 to be the most accurate, blimey it was like of a quartz standard 😯 it stayed rock solid on time regardless of if I wore it or left it in the winder for days on end!

  • @Pasta1nc
    @Pasta1nc ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can just one TH-cam channel...JUST ONE TH-camR...when speaking of Seiko's wildly large range (by modern standard) of acceptable error...Can ya just mention how simple it is to fix??? Most of you guys certainly mention that the actual accuracy is much better than the range extremities listed. But, for $50usd you can get it regulated and pressure tested. I got 2 done at the AUTHORIZED DEALER for $30usd each! It's a reasonably affordable, simple fix. I know it's an awkward step and I know people aren't gonna be happy to have it done. But...it's a Seiko thing, you wouldn't understand!... I mean, like if it even matters if your watch is off by 3 minutes a day. If you need more accuracy than that, you're not using a mech watch to track it...but I suppose you'd be expected to adjust it more often than...but, no matter!
    Anyway, I'm sorry, Andrew. I love you, man. I'm just ornery and you were the latest to trip one of many Seiko wires LOL

  • @imarod78
    @imarod78 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Omg he's showing his face?!!! I've literally never seen that guy's face before!

  • @tombryan1
    @tombryan1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im so glad i accumulated my many Seikos 8 years ago when value was so high

  • @mayorofrlyeh8042
    @mayorofrlyeh8042 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Sorry, but a GMT has not been absent from the Seiko collection as long as you are saying here. Even before the introduction of the NH34 in the Seiko 5 line the Presage Sharp Edge Series had a GMT with the SPB217J1 and others in that range. All housing the caliber 6R64. Also

    • @darkoflight4938
      @darkoflight4938 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Indeed so! I have a SPB223J1 - Limited Edition with a white dial. Beautiful stuff.

    • @chrisbailey4210
      @chrisbailey4210 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​​@@darkoflight4938 Same here--love that watch. Strange that the Presage GMT line isn't given at least a mention since, at around $1000, it sits right between the Seiko 5 GMT and this new release, price-wise.

    •  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah wtf?

    • @DXPetti
      @DXPetti ปีที่แล้ว

      Not to mention the sharp edge Presage GMT has an identical ceramic bezel that is present in some of the Grand Seiko sport series GMTs

    • @yoitsmearwyn2519
      @yoitsmearwyn2519 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If only they were able to squeeze the 6R64 into the new diver gmt. Would love to travel and go diving with this one rather than the Presage

  • @AutomotiveAvocation
    @AutomotiveAvocation ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m going for the Mido Sea Star GMT… I think.

  • @BAF605
    @BAF605 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Swatch Group introduced "traveller" GMTS for around £1000 in Certina, and Tissot watches as well as Mido that you mentioned. They considerably undercut the Tudor Pepsi "traveller" which itself was a ground breaker in price at that time. Now Citizen Group has introduced the Miyota 9075 "traveller" GMT movement. It's early days but watches with this movement will soon be widely available for around £500. The Seiko looks well made but at £1400 for an office GMT I feel its time is already past.

    • @haroldmiller7672
      @haroldmiller7672 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Watch prices are to do with the finishing and movement. This is clearly finished better then any tissot or certina. It’s time is just beginning

    • @BAF605
      @BAF605 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@haroldmiller7672 Office GMTs are finished.

    • @markgilbertson1564
      @markgilbertson1564 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Half the price and I would be interested.

    • @redsox7897
      @redsox7897 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@BAF605 what is Office GMT?

    • @BAF605
      @BAF605 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@redsox7897 th-cam.com/video/8iWRJaueu-M/w-d-xo.html Marc explains all here.

  • @davidrosenblum2178
    @davidrosenblum2178 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This is a handsome piece, and the SPB385 limited edition with its ice-blue dial is a stunner. However it is not the first Prospex GMT. I just recently acquired the SFK001J1 Prospex Sea Sumo. It’s a solar quartz and is a traveller’s GMT with a quickset hour hand and a sapphire crystal. It is available in the low $600 range gray market. The bezel, chapter ring and seconds hand on mine all line up perfectly and so far it has been dead accurate. Yes, it is a quartz, but I am not a mechanical snob. Check it out!

  • @Bujienla
    @Bujienla ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That looks like a mm200, butnwith a gmt hand. Youd habe to be crazy to buy a 6r movement watch for 1.8k

  • @davew8841
    @davew8841 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Looks great...with a solid resemblance to a Marinemaster 300. Incidentally, the SBEJ001 and 003 came out earlier, in 2018, as Prospex GMT's.

  • @VicharB
    @VicharB ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ok then, for the price this one is now definitely on my list, really like it - black or green, to be decided.

  • @Davyjones5454
    @Davyjones5454 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I saw this at Seiko boutique. It’s stunning. But it’s too “bling” for me and the movement tolerances is disappointing. Of course I wish I had 1,800 to spend on a watch.

  • @valter_vava74
    @valter_vava74 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think it looks amazing. The finishing, the proportions.
    Only the movement's rating disappoints, in my opinion.

  • @dannysimenauer5745
    @dannysimenauer5745 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Given the complications and finish, iIcan see the $1,400 price. However with a +\- range of 15-25 seconds PER DAY, I will pass. Totally unacceptable for a modern watch. Thanks Andrew for highlighting this specification.

  • @jim2950
    @jim2950 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is ridiculous. Your I phone can easily tell you .the time in any zone then set your watch to the time you are in. The time on your iPhone is Atomic. We are in a time period just like the
    old pocket watch. you look at your watch to tell the time. Anything else the iPhone does it better. Maybe the day date might be nice but is not essential. Watch complications on a mechanical
    watch is quaint. Heaven help you if needs to be repaired. It will cost big bucks to fix a mechanical watch with complications. Watches will drastically change in the next 20 years.

  • @chollister08
    @chollister08 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is precisely the review I was looking for particularly from your channel. I’ve been looking at this watch for the last few months online, and I am interested to see your take on it.

  • @remus2001
    @remus2001 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The 6R35 movement is both poorly regulated at the factory and it has absolutely crazy positional variance. Charging this much for a movement based on the 6R35 is not a good deal.

    • @robalexander7348
      @robalexander7348 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Very poor time keeping is the 6R35, read my previous comment 😵

  • @GCPlati85
    @GCPlati85 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love it. Except I’m not touching another 6r movement. Thing is a nightmare.

  • @marcusyauyau
    @marcusyauyau ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm confused, skipped out on TH-cam for 2 months and we had a face reveal?! great content as always!

    • @MJDU2
      @MJDU2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s just that the hands grew a head 8)

  • @billbouldin2969
    @billbouldin2969 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am finding watches thank to watchfinder& Co. - Luv the commentary!

  • @barrettwbenton
    @barrettwbenton ปีที่แล้ว

    I only found out about this watch a few days previous, so I'm seriously glad you put this video together in such a timely fashion. Yes, I like it a lot. Yes, I think it's worth the asking price. But no, I couldn't stretch to it (not now, anyways), so I'm thrilled about the Seiko 5 Sports GMT I bought last week. If I suddenly hit some kind of windfall, *maybe* I'd move to this one, but I'm happy with my 5.

  • @aman803
    @aman803 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I want this piece but I also own the sla057. Which was around 4500$ 😬. Something about grand Seiko finished it. If I got this and the finishing looked to be the same I don’t think I’d mentally recover

  • @denis888red
    @denis888red ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Am I right in thinking this looks somewhere between an MM200 and an MM300? The 200 is about 1100 quid and a 300 around £2800. This looks closest to the 300 to me. I once handled one and though a tad heavy I thought it looked and felt a top quality item. Taking this into account it looks pretty smart for it's money... 🤔

    • @Nightfury0695
      @Nightfury0695 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is the same size as the 200. 42mm variant with exactly same dimensions and just 0.4mm extra thickness. The 300 is beast cause it is made for saturation diving. milled solid unibody case and the watch is just spec monster for professionals.

    • @denis888red
      @denis888red ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Nightfury0695 Thanks for that. I actually own an MM200, which is a great little watch that wouldn't put anyone off. Beautiful finish and lots of character.

  • @ronnienes
    @ronnienes ปีที่แล้ว

    This video had me thinking the dial was matte. Other videos make it look notably sunburst. Although the thumbnail looks sunburst now that I look again

  • @andyholton7959
    @andyholton7959 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the look of the hand set, and is a gorgeous green, I would have one 👌🏻

  • @HarryFlashmanVC
    @HarryFlashmanVC ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I was a Swiss Diver buyer for years, until I bought my first SKX in the 1990s. Seiko's cases just have so much uniqueness and comfortable wearability. When I would choose my SKX over my Omega I began to realise that I'd been converted. There's something organic about the form of the curved cushion cases that you just don;t get with other watches. Often copied and never exceeded. I think the Uemura is next on my list. 8 series movement, a 6015 case with the comfort and presence of that design... and the normies haven't got a clue what you are wearing, which is a major plus for me (as is the 'don't worry dear, it wasn't THAT expensive, it is just a Seiko after all!' 😁

  • @LectioDivina33
    @LectioDivina33 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How about the Seiko Presage Sharp Edge Series Mechanical True GMT for less than this and not being mentioned?

  • @Asterngeisha
    @Asterngeisha ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Watching this space to see what the the accuracy runout is for owners. Since this movement piggybacks the 6R35 base I am hesitant to spend a dollar on a watch that needs a service and regulation right out of the gate.
    Yes I know, everyone knows a guy who knowns a guy who has one that runs within COSC, but the ratio of people who know someone with one that looses and gains minutes in the same week is astounding.

    • @ithper
      @ithper ปีที่แล้ว

      Mines for -4 seconds in 4 days

  • @theshadowman1398
    @theshadowman1398 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If Seiko would release a Willard GMT I will be sitting in front of the store of my local jeweler

  • @David-nx2vm
    @David-nx2vm ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don’t think it’s worth a three-fold price increase over the SSK. You can get an Oris Aquis GMT with the proven SW-330 all day for $1800 retail, and other Swiss offerings for less than that. Plus, the dive bezel on a GMT watch is a head scratcher. If someone uses the GMT function, the third time zone functionality is way more useful. I’m not a Seiko hater; I own two including an SSK…Seiko hit it out of the park with that one.

    • @barrettwbenton
      @barrettwbenton ปีที่แล้ว

      I like this release, but I do think Seiko sort of shot itself in the foot by releasing the 5 Sports GMT, which I own (003). No, it's not an ISO-certified diver like this one, but then too, it's *not* positioned as a diver anyway: 24H bezel and all, nobody can gripe about it the way they do about the rest of the "5KX" line vis-a-vis the old SKX. (Well, I guess they *can* , because reasons.)

  • @shuycg
    @shuycg ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There's a big price gap between Prospex and GS. They could offer something in between. A better caliber, ask up to 2.5k. Go against Oris and Longines.

  • @dire67
    @dire67 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I want one

  • @tbone121974
    @tbone121974 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    If I wanted a Seiko GMT, I'd go for the presage line. This has a jump hour travelling function and a beautiful hemp leaf pattern dial.

  • @Tom_H327
    @Tom_H327 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They are not the bargain king any longer. But their watches are so nice to wear. As far as the GMT is concerned, I'll leave that opinion to those who feel they need a GMT.

  • @hobowithashotgun48
    @hobowithashotgun48 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome watch, but too expansive for me..

  • @snowman01
    @snowman01 ปีที่แล้ว

    My (nearly) perfect watch. If the movement was a bit more impressive (higher beat rate) and it was a true GMT, it would be perfect for me.

  • @mychalharris
    @mychalharris ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done. A must add to collection.

  • @Redonepunch
    @Redonepunch ปีที่แล้ว

    I hope the movement feels less hacked together than the seiko 5 gmt. The GMT hand feels so cheap when adjusting on that watch

    • @barrettwbenton
      @barrettwbenton ปีที่แล้ว

      Seriously? Seems fine on my example, and I'm fairly picky on that front. Granted,

  • @Anton-oy3vm
    @Anton-oy3vm ปีที่แล้ว +1

    whoa since when did he reveal his face

  • @tisithecount4198
    @tisithecount4198 ปีที่แล้ว

    Isn’t there a Seiko Presage GMT too?

  • @DarrenBates
    @DarrenBates ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think Seiko are taking the mickey a bit here. Sure enough, the case finishing is nice but it's not beyond what can be expected at the price. You say almost Grand Seiko levels, but if it was GS level, it would be a GS watch. If you hold out just a little longer, you'll be able to get the Longines Spirit Zulu Time, which has a chronometer certified Flyer GMT movement inside, which while not strictly in-house, is very much in-group, and a similar level finishing including the ceramic bezel and sapphire crystal.
    I think coming into these price ranges on their higher end Prospex and Presage models with 6R movements, they really should consider offering some sort of accuracy certification. Wouldn't necessarily have to be COSC or METAS, they could come up with their own "Seiko Performance Guarantee".
    Also Andrew, hate to be that guy but Seiko have had other GMTs prior to last year's SSK00X collection in the 5 line. The sharp edge GMTs have been knocking around a few years now with what I believe is a not too dissimilar movement, and recently there's been the addition of a new Prospex GMT, this time a flyer GMT built into a solar quartz movement.

    • @stuartpeacock1576
      @stuartpeacock1576 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s a brand new movement with 3 day power reserve, so different from Sharpe Edge….

  • @ThePlaiibox
    @ThePlaiibox ปีที่แล้ว

    Sorry, don't like it. It's not a good gmt without the ability to read multiple timezones quickly and efficiently. That dive bezel is a massive red flag and the 6R family are terrible. The 4R is way more reliable.

  • @edmiller873
    @edmiller873 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I loved your thorough review. However, there is 1 negative for me: The price. $1,800 USD??? For that price the bracelet should be better. No micro adjustment? The accuracy should be better at that price.

    • @lockhandel
      @lockhandel ปีที่แล้ว

      This is a $1500, don't know why he is saying it's 1800. Maybe UK taxes? Anyway, Seiko is just charging the Seiko fans because the Seiko GMT in the video is based on the 1968 model MarineMaster. I personally think that the Marine Master case design is the best in the world for a diver's watch.

    • @edmiller873
      @edmiller873 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are correct. It does run for $1,500. I don’t know where I got $1,800 from. However, my other comments stand.

  • @philstadnicki7882
    @philstadnicki7882 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Never been a fan of GMT divers- too busy. Also not a fan of Seikos hiked prices. In my opinion this is overpriced for what you get. I actually think the best value Seiko divers are the quartz ones like the arnie and tunas. But its all subjective. Im just not a fan of these 4R/6R movements

  • @WatchMalaya
    @WatchMalaya ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I recently purchased a Mido Oceanstar GMT, prior to the launch of this Seiko GMT. Looking at price comparison, I believe that Oceanstar GMT is of better value for money. I have no complain with Mido's.

    • @Ali-cz6vg
      @Ali-cz6vg ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I prefer the Seiko dial overall

  • @anscomber8031
    @anscomber8031 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was expecting a traveler's GMT. For that price I'll spring for a Christopher Ward with a better movement and pocket the change.

    • @lockhandel
      @lockhandel ปีที่แล้ว

      Christopher Ward GMTs are just plain ugly (personal opinion). They look like fashion watches from a distance, and are very easily forgotten designs. Secondly, the whole difference between a "good movement" and "bad movement" in this case is just a few second difference. 6R movements realistically run +- 10 seconds. If you still want to have a Swiss movement, Look at the Monta Noble in blue dial (SW300 movement), Or the Monta Atlas (SW330), or the Farer Lander IV GMT (SW330).

  • @lucw9171
    @lucw9171 ปีที่แล้ว

    An abysmal accuracy range for a 2k watch. Seiko needs to step up on the accuracy and QC specs of their "entry" lineups.

  • @barneyrubble9309
    @barneyrubble9309 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why are the 7 & 17 upside down?

  • @linhrom7227
    @linhrom7227 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For over a mil sub. This talking headshot is sub par to the like of 1k sub (white background, against the wall with no death. Like how basic more can you get. Shame). The old format is way too superior....😢

  • @bhavikshah5016
    @bhavikshah5016 ปีที่แล้ว

    why cant seiko bring such watches for smaller wrists in the range of 38mm??

  • @electricjoshaloo
    @electricjoshaloo ปีที่แล้ว

    Typical corner cutting Seiko.
    Make a pretty cool looking case and dial and then just shove it on the same cheap, clanky, shitty bracelet and top it off with a boring lifeless crown.
    Then you buy one and hope everything lines up half decent.
    No thanks!

  • @Chiller11
    @Chiller11 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Two raging questions arise: 1. Does one need a GMT if one lives in Greenwich? 2. Why, if it’s spelled Greenwich, is it pronounced Grenitch?

  • @mrtswift
    @mrtswift ปีที่แล้ว

    Divers shouldn’t come with GMT hand. GMTs shouldn’t come with a divers bazel. This watch is neither a duck nor a pigeon.

  • @curtbrown7718
    @curtbrown7718 ปีที่แล้ว

    Respectfully, this video was awkward to listen to, and I am a long-time fan. There was a very apparent robotic tenor to the delivery, and the long pauses at the end of points made was strange. Thank you.

  • @Runner862
    @Runner862 ปีที่แล้ว

    A „caller“ gmt is just a cheap version of a gmt clockwork. There is no „callee“ and „flyer“, there just right gmt and cheap gmts

  • @robalexander7348
    @robalexander7348 ปีที่แล้ว

    If only Seiko could produce more accurate watches, i purchased a Capt Willlard SPB151 and a Turtle SPB317 in January this year and both gain up to 2 minutes and 1.30 minute per day, it is annoying to have to adjust both each day ! Both will be returned to Seiko Sydney under their 5 year warranty term for adjustment. Nice looking watches and nice finish. Sadly there time accuracy is poor ? ☹

    • @lockhandel
      @lockhandel ปีที่แล้ว

      The Seiko needs to come up with a completely new movement, which should compete with the ETA 2892, or the SW300. The 6R movement is quickly losing favour. Let's hope the GMT version of the 6R movement is running a bit better than other 6R movements.

    • @robalexander7348
      @robalexander7348 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lockhandel Agree, i have many swiss watches Tudor, and Tag Heuer, Tissot auto and quartz, these two Seiko are a let down to me.. So it's remains only Quality swiss watches for me,they are such accurate time keepers. The old saying goes, " you only get what you pay for " 👍

  • @pizzaman122
    @pizzaman122 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very precise and knowledgeable individual and great video. Thank you🙏🏽

  • @stanleyling6116
    @stanleyling6116 ปีที่แล้ว

    The mystery voice now has a face.. And it is Dr Who.. or is it Dr Strange? 🙂
    sorry.. can't help it.

  • @Friends_and_fragrances
    @Friends_and_fragrances 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just ordered this one

  • @mellow-jello
    @mellow-jello ปีที่แล้ว

    If the price approaches that of the Longines Zulu Time GMT, I will side with the Swiss, sorry.

  • @aPixelcoffee
    @aPixelcoffee ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No. The biggest "bang for your buck" GMT was recently released by San Martin, features a full steel bracelet with adjustable clasp, sapphire crystal, a timing bezzel, NH34 movement, 200m WR, enamel dial and an original design. All for 350$.

    • @Nightfury0695
      @Nightfury0695 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I rather spend $100 more and get a Seiko 5 GMT than deal with their ridiculous customer care. The San Martin BB58 homange I owned barely lasted 6 months and they didn't even bother to respond to their 2 year warranty.

    • @aPixelcoffee
      @aPixelcoffee ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Nightfury0695 Well, that's a bummer, but it seems like you got the odd one out at San Martin. They're usually extremely durable. Besides, the 100$ more still won't account for sapphire and a bracelet that's leagues better. Mind you, I'm not saying everyone should get a San Martin. I'm saying that Seiko could step up their game a bit. At least include sapphire (which can be found in 60$ watches these days) and milled clasps as standard...

    • @Nightfury0695
      @Nightfury0695 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aPixelcoffee I don't have anything against the value these chinese homage brands offer but when you offer a 2 year warranty policy, I expected them to be atleast honour it especially San Martin being the only good one out of the ones I have handled. Its fun to own but not something I would recommend to anyone knowing how the after sales is with the brand and the doubtful durability.

  • @bowedonut22
    @bowedonut22 ปีที่แล้ว

    The thing about the accuracy of the movement is that it really is a crap shoot. Most Seikos run pretty well but getting one at the far end of the rating is always possible. My best friend’s Seiko 5 GMT runs at +24 a day. This is the main reason I’ve yet to purchase a Seiko.

  • @MohammedKhaled-ju7gy
    @MohammedKhaled-ju7gy ปีที่แล้ว

    Ok didn’t realize the talking hands are gone. Did watch finder make you shut down your own channel OP?

  • @RoberttSmithh
    @RoberttSmithh ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn bro y you showing your face nowadays. I loved the mystery hands and cinematic content

  • @joaquinisaiahng621
    @joaquinisaiahng621 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I thought this was a variant of the 6R64 flyer GMT released earlier but with a longer power reserve and lower beat rate. However, it's a caller GMT instead.

    • @thegirthquake8574
      @thegirthquake8574 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It really doesn't matter. I doubt you live a lifestyle so specific that you'd ever require one over the other.

  • @billybenson3834
    @billybenson3834 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish that they'd be less dive watch looking and more like the Bulova and Longines

  • @mell3109
    @mell3109 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Too much cash for a desk GMT. If it was a traveler then it might be interesting. The MIDO is a true GMT

  • @markhunstein1320
    @markhunstein1320 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Also WF, have you considered doing a piece on the Radium Girls? It's such an important piece of watch history and labor rights history, and i feel like you guys could have a unique angle on it

  • @iancraig6070
    @iancraig6070 ปีที่แล้ว

    Too expensive,no imagination for dial and hand design.
    Typical Seiko.

  • @Hnair1982
    @Hnair1982 ปีที่แล้ว

    Let your hands do the talking Andrew, old format is much better

  • @shiraz1736
    @shiraz1736 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don’t get the Diver,s 200m, shouldn’t it be 200m Diver?

    • @barrettwbenton
      @barrettwbenton ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's the designation Seiko uses ("Diver's 200", for example) for dive watches that have gone through ISO certification…which, BTW, involves more than assuring the watch can withstand the stated depth).

  • @DavekayBSC
    @DavekayBSC ปีที่แล้ว

    A lot of incorrect info in this. You guys usually do a lot better with your research. This isn't even CLOSE to the "first Prospex GMT." Seiko's 6R64 traveler GMT made its debut not in the recent Presage, range, but in a Prospex watch, a weird Landmaster model - SBEJ001 - with the crown at 12. That was like five years ago.