This campaign is the most challanging because of the shallow waters, you'll be forced to be very carefull more often and absolutely use your standoff range advantage.
Good to see you back! I'm hyped for this campaign; can't wait to see how you handle the challenging terrain, especially the shallow atolls. Prepare a full wardrobe of suitably dyed trousers.....
I’m already aware this is going to sting! Almost everything can sit within effective standoff range, and lots of issues when close with some amazing counter measures.
I've been doing some testing and id love to know your opinion on it just to reflect better on my perception of the DOT mod. Do you prefer DOT mod or epic mod? I think the epic mod AI seems so much more agressive IMO but cant really tell if I'm just bias or something cant put my finger on why exactely... The epic mod AI has a tendency to compleately saturate an area with weapons with surface ships, and subs want to kill you bad they seem to throw everything at you. In DOT mod the AI seems more "scared" or "confused" doesnt take as many shots at long range etc... I remember in epic mod I disabled a lone Alpha in the shallows, so I though ok, he has no idea where I'm at lets finish him. So I fired another mk48 and as soon as he heard the launch he rained an absolute hell of rocket torpedos very close to me, he fired many of them and while I was evading he reloaded and fired a spread of 3 torps my way, finally my mk48 hit him as he was disabled but I coldnt evade all his fire, fucking brutal you know, I felt the Alpha's crew will to live or to take me with them. Also,the newest update for the epic mod has so much more content too, epic mod is a ton more polished now and stupid easy to install. The only thing I wish was for the range scale to be in epic mod. Did you notice anything like what I said?
9 months later and I can say when I first played epic I found the enemy on epic mod more aggressive and skilled at evasion. BUT that has many confounding factors. - My DOT campaign has been in the South China Sea, and this has different enemies and weapons. It makes the comparison bias. - Since playing DOTMOD I have gotten better at the game.. (hopefully!) - EPIC has copied from every major update from DOT since they created it. So both have a lot of similar qualities. Neither version is the same as it was 9 months ago, and I have not played EPICs version in that time. I suspect epic mod is a totally new animal by now. I’m actually curious of the answer myself!
@@SchrodingerDeeps I recently started playing CW with dot mod as the vanilla game didn't take with me, which is really odd being I'm a Discord Mod for the guy who did the sonar voiceovers -- I was a Dangerous Waters guy for the longest time, and go way back to 688 Attack Sub on Sega Genesis. I've heard about Epic but never tried it myself, might have to take a look-see. Joined your server as well, you'll see me there too! 👍
Looking forward to this patrol, I cant install this mod for some reason i've even followed the tutorials on YT but it doesnt work is there any other way to install it like with Epic where you just copy and paste files in the CW folder?
Yeah, I downloaded the “bleeding edge” version and it actually came with an installer. Then it just needed activation with the JSGME. Give me a shout later on the discord and I should be able to help walk you through it (if you need help). The traf needed to be added to the editor for example and some other little things.
Never played dot mod , but in epic mod the enemy subs would get stuck on icebergs and in the shallow water I would shoot a torpedo and it would dive to evade and get stuck in the sand . I was like the ai didn't care about shallow water or icebergs
@SchrodingerDeeps:With the possible collapse of the chineese property marked resulting in economic melt down, rising tension in the South China sea, invasion speak over Taiwan, an UK again sailing in the Info-Pacific region. This part of Cold Waters seems disturbingly real and accurant. Wars have started for less before.
Come and say hello :). discord.gg/dgRzDBhuWf
So hyped for the new series
Fantastic , very good
Seems like a really good time to subscribe :)
The graphics on this look great!
Not bad is it!
Mmmm, the Royal Navy versus the Glowboat horde? For Hong Kong!
;)
Hell yeah, I'm excited to watch!
Me too! Wait.
Bloody epic mate! Cannot wait to see! Absolutely love playing Cold Waters, but the games with the commentary is so far beyond!
All set to start smashing out some episodes!
This campaign is the most challanging because of the shallow waters, you'll be forced to be very carefull more often and absolutely use your standoff range advantage.
I noticed doing the intro some new highly aggressive counter measures… It’s going be a challenge indeed!
First.
I like it
Good to see you back! I'm hyped for this campaign; can't wait to see how you handle the challenging terrain, especially the shallow atolls.
Prepare a full wardrobe of suitably dyed trousers.....
I’m already aware this is going to sting! Almost everything can sit within effective standoff range, and lots of issues when close with some amazing counter measures.
I wish dot mod had the British/Canadian Upholder class submarine, the Trafalgar is still sick though!
Oh I absolutely love the new Trafalgar model
should be good
It’s stunning isn’t it? Fair play to them!
@@SchrodingerDeeps yeah the dotmod team does great work
they also did the Virginia class and lots more
We're BACK!
It’s good to be back!
I've been doing some testing and id love to know your opinion on it just to reflect better on my perception of the DOT mod. Do you prefer DOT mod or epic mod?
I think the epic mod AI seems so much more agressive IMO but cant really tell if I'm just bias or something cant put my finger on why exactely... The epic mod AI has a tendency to compleately saturate an area with weapons with surface ships, and subs want to kill you bad they seem to throw everything at you. In DOT mod the AI seems more "scared" or "confused" doesnt take as many shots at long range etc...
I remember in epic mod I disabled a lone Alpha in the shallows, so I though ok, he has no idea where I'm at lets finish him. So I fired another mk48 and as soon as he heard the launch he rained an absolute hell of rocket torpedos very close to me, he fired many of them and while I was evading he reloaded and fired a spread of 3 torps my way, finally my mk48 hit him as he was disabled but I coldnt evade all his fire, fucking brutal you know, I felt the Alpha's crew will to live or to take me with them.
Also,the newest update for the epic mod has so much more content too, epic mod is a ton more polished now and stupid easy to install. The only thing I wish was for the range scale to be in epic mod. Did you notice anything like what I said?
I’ve not played DotMod enough yet to form an opinion, I’m sure that will change soon! Check back a few episodes in ;).
@@SchrodingerDeeps Can this be answered nine months later?
9 months later and I can say when I first played epic I found the enemy on epic mod more aggressive and skilled at evasion.
BUT that has many confounding factors.
- My DOT campaign has been in the South China Sea, and this has different enemies and weapons. It makes the comparison bias.
- Since playing DOTMOD I have gotten better at the game.. (hopefully!)
- EPIC has copied from every major update from DOT since they created it. So both have a lot of similar qualities.
Neither version is the same as it was 9 months ago, and I have not played EPICs version in that time. I suspect epic mod is a totally new animal by now.
I’m actually curious of the answer myself!
@@SchrodingerDeeps
I recently started playing CW with dot mod as the vanilla game didn't take with me, which is really odd being I'm a Discord Mod for the guy who did the sonar voiceovers -- I was a Dangerous Waters guy for the longest time, and go way back to 688 Attack Sub on Sega Genesis. I've heard about Epic but never tried it myself, might have to take a look-see.
Joined your server as well, you'll see me there too! 👍
@@Tamburello_1994 you will find many familiar faces within! Including your sonar guy 😎. Welcome!
Looking forward to this patrol, I cant install this mod for some reason i've even followed the tutorials on YT but it doesnt work is there any other way to install it like with Epic where you just copy and paste files in the CW folder?
Yeah, I downloaded the “bleeding edge” version and it actually came with an installer. Then it just needed activation with the JSGME. Give me a shout later on the discord and I should be able to help walk you through it (if you need help).
The traf needed to be added to the editor for example and some other little things.
@@SchrodingerDeeps will do cheers buddy
Never played dot mod , but in epic mod the enemy subs would get stuck on icebergs and in the shallow water I would shoot a torpedo and it would dive to evade and get stuck in the sand . I was like the ai didn't care about shallow water or icebergs
Yeah in shallow water I quite often use decoys to send them into the deck!
The magnitude of it all lol
@SchrodingerDeeps:With the possible collapse of the chineese property marked resulting in economic melt down, rising tension in the South China sea, invasion speak over Taiwan, an UK again sailing in the Info-Pacific region. This part of Cold Waters seems disturbingly real and accurant. Wars have started for less before.
It feels strangely relevant for sure.
@@SchrodingerDeeps Let's hope it calms down. I don't really see a quick end to such a war...