Lamar Jackson gets non-exclusive tag from Ravens, Rodgers meets with Jets | NFL | FIRST THINGS FIRST
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- Nick Wright, Chris Broussard and Kevin Wildes react to news the New York Jets are meeting with Green Bay Packers QB Aaron Rodgers. This comes on the heels of reports that the Packers brass was growing increasingly “exhausted” with Rodgers. The Baltimore Ravens placed their non-exclusive franchise tag on QB Lamar Jackson after both sides could not agree on long term deal.
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“TURN THE PLANE AROUND” 😂😂😂
As soon as he said it I said at the phone, "RIGHT!!!"
He was serious too.....😆 🤣 😂.
Would love for Jackson to go to the jets or somewhere else and get his money 💰 B-more they just too cheap
Instant classic.
LMAO bruh
Nick was straight up cooking this whole segment
Did you see the jets defense I love nick but he wild if don’t think the jets with rogers can’t be better that everyone else not named Kansas City, there defensive is the best in the conference and the best out of any team he compared them to add rogers a top end qb, idk he missed with that take a rare miss
@@kendreviusclincy4377 To be honest, I was mostly talking about the Lamar/Ravens stuff. I'm a Bears fan so you can imagine why my brain tries to protect me from anything dealing with Rodgers
@@MindoftheNorthStar oh I’m sorry the bears make me sick never once until now have they ever got the qb right then wanted to play shop him around wild
@@kendreviusclincy4377 Nah I am not buying it that they are for real FOR REAL shopping Fields around.
I think they are just trying to put worth on the 1st pick and not make it seem like a foregone conclusion that they are trading the 1st pick.
Actually he was factually wrong. Favre and Manning both had resurgent years and contended by switching teams at about 40. He also didn't see Brady's success in Tampa coming, so he has no ground to stand on. I hate Brady but anyone who really watches tape coulda told you Brady still had it and it was the Pats falling off not him. Similar situation here with Rodgers.
Rodgers is without a doubt one of the top 10 all time QBs, he's in that same tier with the multiple other QBs to successfully switch teams and bounce back pushing 40. He isn't half as banged up as Favre or Manning were at this age either. To act like Rodgers can't be a top 3-5 QB next year with health and a more talented team is just asinine.
Projecting Rodgers outside the top 10 is beyond moronic, it's straight up hating and Nick is going to end up with a whole bunch of egg on his face for that take.
Nick is right. It’s a huge risk with the non-exclusive tag because Lamar can wait to sign it. Then if Bal had any thoughts of matching it they would have to literally put there entire offseason on hold not even knowing what the contract will look like. That’s like planning to move in a new home and not even knowing what country it’ll be in.
There's a very real possibility that the best offer Lamar had from the Ravens before being tagged is better than the best deal he'll be able to negotiate with other teams under the non-exclusive age. The non-exclusive tag really stacks things in the Ravens' favor in terms of negotiations because all they have to do is match what another team is willing to pay on top of giving up two first round picks. As a Ravens fan I really hope Lamar gets his long term deal this year and stays in Baltimore. If we tagged him with the exclusive tag, we probably still wouldn't have gotten a long term deal done and we'd be back in this situation next year. It's all about letting Lamar test the market.
@@cnb3388 Exactly. I think the Ravens are using this to test what the "real" market is for Lamar Jackson.
Lamar acting as his own agent is like a Doctor treating himself. The doctor has a fool for a patient!
@@cnb3388 yeah ok 😂😂 watch what raiders, dolphins , Washington, even jets offer lol only ravens acting like dude don’t win 70% of his games 😂
@@BROOKLYNUNBIAS What are you talking about? I never said anything negative about Lamar, and I even said that I'm hopeful he stays in BAL.
Best three ! Glad they’re back
"Turn the plane around!!! Tell em' Brou!!!!
Interesting
I like the raven's letting Lamar look around, they can match. A team would be desperate to give up 2 firsts AND pay him.
Montana won two SB’s and Walsh brought in Young!😅Joe was pist and won 2 more. Jackson is no Mahomes.
6:10. Who would say a non-exclusive tag could be used and the player wouldn’t resign? Hall of Famer Steve Young received the non-exclusive in ‘93 and played with the Niners another six years. The problem, to be blunt, is the negotiating is not working, whether it’s the lack of agent, mom as his manager or whatever. The teams need to start dealing with real offers not hypotheticals
I love watching this show, good analysis/discourse and the background laughs make it chill
If I'm Lamar I'd go to the NFC with DET and ATL atop my list
both great schematic fits, both could use an upgrade at QB
and that's being kind, both plays indoors, both have HCs on a
prove it year, both believe in running the ball, both play in weak Div.
The non exclusive tag was the best thing that happened to Lamar,
if Arthur Blank courted Deshaun Watson after 2yrs away from football
a fully guaranteed contract for a former MVP is definitely an option.
As long as business gets conducted by persons it's gone always be personal
True, but he's getting 32 million dollars a year, so I think he will be ok.
I almost never agree with chris but i think hes 100% correct here, the ravens want lamar to really see how other nfl contracts are gonna be written for him. Nfl teams are gonna do everything they can to avoid contracts like watson, he messed up the market
100% Agree with Nick!
So wait can Lamar wait till after the draft to sign when the Dolphins will have their next two first round picks to sign??
yes he technically can
He can wait until week 10...
Yes, and that’d be pretty cool
Dolphins can give up 2 future 1st right now! 2024 is supposed to be a better draft class not 2023. It's up to Ravens how they want the deal of draft picks to go.
@@UNFITTED1 they dont have a first rounder this year anyway.....they would lose the 2024 pick either way
Nick is cooking since he came back.
Brousaard Is Right here.
This is the most sense Nick had made in a argument in a minute
Nick is right.
Lamar should go to Seattle
Now, the Ravens can't get more in return for Lamar Jackson because he's not under contract. He's a free agent at this time. Lamar Jackson shouldn't sign the non-exclusive tag because they have been working on a contract for 25 months. It's time for Lamar Jackson to move on to another team because the Ravens wants LJ to get a deal from another team that they can try to match. If the Ravens can match a deal from another team that's much higher than they initially offered LJ, why didn't the Ravens give him a deal in the first place? 🤔Ravens are having LJ jump through uneccessary hoops to get a deal. Again, the Ravens had 2+ years to get a deal done with LJ.
I’d put the Bengals in a category above the jags but still below the chiefs
Lamar to jets! Second option is arod
I disagree with Nick. Wrong absolute. Ravens HAVE to match. They absolutely have to sign him.
If the fully Guaranteed contract reports are true then it's a good move to use the non exclusive. If he wants the Watson contract the ravens would be foolish to give it to him. You can't give that contract to the 2 best qb in the conference and the maybe 5th best in the conference. Especially one that has missed 40 percent of the last 22 games and plays his style.
Jacksonville rated higher than Buffalo 🤨🤧
LAMAR TO THE LIONS WOULD CHANGE UP THE LEAGUE
All the owners are colluding.......again.
Why does everyone keep bringing up a fully guaranteed deal when Lamar never asked for a fully guaranteed contract?
The Ravens have offered 250m total. LJ wants more than Watsons 230m guaranteed and this is the detail they're apart on. It seems like it has to be pretty close to wanting fully guaranteed.
Even 200 would be too much. 250 total means he is 1 of top paid QB in the league as long as he's able to play. How's that not fair? How does missing half the last 2 seasons translate to demanding (nearly) fully guaranteed $? Zero risk to LJ even at the early offer of 133m guaranteed. He gets hurt immediately, he is still mega rich indefinitely. Why doesn't the team get to mitigate their risk some too? How is that not obviously the right, smart way to structure contracts?
I used to think Lamar Jackson was overrated, until I saw the Ravens play without him. Talk about a DUMB move!
Nick is right here. No pun intended. The Ravens botched this or they have no desire to keep Lamar. Either way it’s a bad look. Lamar, go to the Jets. New York DO NOT sign Rodgers. Go get this man yesterday.
I would have Jets in the 3rd tier
Nick was on top form here
I 100% agree with Nick. Look at how horrible Russell, Aaron, Dax, and Watson performed. The money would be thrown Lamar’s way if it were me.
If after 2 years you haven’t been able to successfully negotiate a deal, what’s the harm in allowing Lamar the opportunity to successfully negotiate that deal with someone else on your behalf (assuming the Ravens match it)?
Lamar gets what he wants, and, if the Ravens choose to match it, so do they. Win win.
The exclusive tag would always leave Lamar wondering what he could’ve got on the open market and may have fostered resentment towards the Ravens. This way, he knows he’s getting as much as he possibly could’ve negotiated.
All of this does admittedly assume the Ravens have assured Lamar they do want him and are willing to match whatever deal he finds…
You can't bring up the Cowboys. Nothing they do in Jerryworld makes sense.
White guy in the back just like 0_0
Aaron Rodgers to the Jets !!
We have to wait next month with the draft if baltimore drafts a Qb in the first or second round that's all u need to know Baltimore is moving on with Lamar.
It's funny that when a player dumps on an organization or fanbase... at the end of the day the point is always... "Hey it's a business and (insert player here) has to look out for number one"... but when an organization makes a savvy business move it's always... "Where's the loyalty... (fill in the blank) did & for the organization and he deserves better"
Complete nonsense... the Ravens made an unbelievably solid business move regarding a player on their roster. All opinions aside... what the Brows did with Watson didn't just "reset the market" for expectations... it left everyone wondering what the market actually looks like... cus no one really knows.
Did the Saints & Giants just massively overpay for Carr/Jones... opinions on talent aside... did they just get a sweet deal by underpaying... did they hit the nail on the head... no one knows until we see the next wave of "real" contracts... and by "real" I mean the ones that actually "set the market"
Those are supposed to be mid-tier guys getting mid-tier deals... and maybe that's what they got... but we don't know. Those 2 teams (Saints & Giants) are under the impression that they are underpaying for the quality that they are getting... ahead of the upcoming curve that sets the market... before it gets really nuts.
Boss move by the Ravens
Tell Lamar to quit asking for way more then he's worth and teams might actually pursue him
*Cleveland Browns: "Hey man, I'll give you 50,000 dollars for those Air Jordans? Money's no object."*
Watson: "It's a deal!"
...
Lamar Jackson: "Hey, do you want my Air Jordans for 50,000 dollars?"
*Baltimore Ravens: "Nah.. The market value for that is only 3,000 dollars but you can ask them."*
Lamar Jackson: "Anyone else want my Air Jordans? It's 50,000 dollars?"
*NFL teams: 'crickets chirping'*
If Aaron stays on the Packers, they're gonna need more chiropractors. If he goes to the Jets, they're gonna need some
This may very well be the sharpest suit that Nick has ever worn! Burn all of your other suits!
I dunno man; the Jets looked pretty good with a scrub QB. With a field marshall like Rodgers?
A mid team needs to pick up Jameis Winston
Nick would be such a bad business man... You see the offers lamar gets ( which likely wont be more than Ravens offered) then you make your deicision on whether or not you want to match. If someone else wants to pay more thn you are comfortable paying then let them... Doesnt mean they dont value him just want to try to show him that hes likely not worth as much as he thinks he is on the open market
Nick wouldn't commit his whole team to support Lamar though.
I will bet you money that a team will offer way more than the ravens ever did
Stop hating 👎🏿
Nick always uses facts and brou uses feelings which makes the show funnier cause brou say’s the opposite lmao
I totally agree with Nick. I think it's more likely than not Lamar ends-up with another team.
Miami
Owner has the $$$ for a guaranteed contract.
@Richard DeCredico they don't have two number 1's though soooo
@@richarddecredico6098 will Miamis owner want to give a quarter billion guaranteed to an injury prone QB tho?
@@richarddecredico6098 Miami can’t do it unless the Ravens match the offer and then agree to a trade bc Miami doesn’t have their 1st this year
@@tacen28 So you gonna give it to Tua? He might not be playing football in 1 year if he gets 1-2 concussions in a season.
Ravens are basically saying, “we like you Lamar but we don’t LIKE like you. Go out there and see if someone else LIKE likes you and if you find someone then we’ll LIKE like you too” 😂 smh they’re just making him jump through hoops. You don’t do that to a QB you truly believe in.
They offered him 250 mil…if he took the deal last year he would have over 100 mil in the bank already. His mom might go down as the worst agent ever in sports.
@@lucrative6477 nah he deserves josh allen type of pay...allen has 150 guaranteed and they offered lamar 135(that price has probably gone up)
@@lucrative6477 lol 113 mil guaranteed. That's a pretty trash offer for a former mvp. Look at what watson got.
You'd make a great girlfriend but not a wife..........
@@mambaASI former MVP from 4 years ago thats the issue here. Everyone needs to wake up that was 1 season where the Ravens unleashed a scary new offense that...oh by the way...has a history of crashing and burning..which is the pistol offense. The reality is the NFL has caught up to it and Lamar's play has declined every year since. You don't give a raise to an employee that was productive 4 years ago and the production has fallen off do you?? the answer is no. The Ravens know it, I know it and you should know it. I wish people would get over the fact that he was a one time MVP winner that don't mean squat now.
Ravens just lost their WHOLE locker room
Facts
Doubt it. Those guys just lost 2 seasons opportunity cuz LJ was injured. They also probably value themselves and don't want 1 guy demanding all the money. Nobody else is making such an unreasonable demand.
@@user-th2jk8fs2y coz nobody else qualified to demand an unreasonable amount
Man Nick is passionate about this Lamar topic and I agree with him. The non-exclusive tag is disrespectful for someone as good as Lamar man. Lol
It's disrespectful to let Lamar see what his market is?
It’s what you do when you have a running QB that can’t stay healthy
No what Nick is saying is that this dude is your franchise player. You built the team around him and you're just going to let this man go into the market without a long-term deal. Clearly you've shown how you feel about it
@@kybernetic8 It is. If you want that QB, then you wouldn't let him "test the market" by going to other teams. Clearly they don't want him enough to keep him and pay him. If they can match another team's deal, then why wouldn't they do that in the first place?
@@sonikspeed19 I'm on Lamars side but I don't think this tag is disrespectful. Ravens are very clear they want him and are willing to give him the bag, but Lamar wants unreasonable guarantees because of the Watson deal. He has no idea what other teams will give him because he doesn't have an agent with connections. Even Mahomes and Allen don't have that type of deal, Browns are the only team willing to make that type of moronic deal and they are already regretting it.
This is the most reasonable way forward. Let the market show him his worth, now he is seeing the Ravens were not disrespecting him and they can meet in the middle. Giving him the ridiculous contract he was asking for was only going to hurt Lamar and the Ravens chance of success.
I know it's been commented and probs the most liked comment on every video, but these three have the best chemistry of any sports talk show airing at the moment. The way they bounce off each other, poke fun, and know each others takes makes this the most enjoyable sports show on television. My only complaint is that I need a full cable package to watch full shows 😕
Still worth the comment! This show is a fresh breath of air that everyone needs!
100% the only one I watch. Stephen A is funny but too loud and sometimes obnoxious for me personally. Speak is just comical to me. Joy is the only reason to watch for obvious reasons, though she seems very intelligent and I think deserves to be the lead. 😅
my goodness. get off the meat
You speak the truth!
Fox sports app - can watch full episodes
Nick thought that Djones was gonna get the tag like Lamar and tbh I thought the same but they actually took care of their player 😭
Daniel Jones just got a 4 year contract
@@allenmobley8444 yeah I know 💀 and it was more then what the ravens offered Lamar too
@@Drk-wv7rs No it wasnt. They offered MORE but lamar the car wants ALL of it guaranteed
@@dennisligma4958 he’s already said he doesn’t want it all guaranteed
Danny Dimes just got a whole bunch of dimes
I am stunned that no one, other than Nick, gets the severity and impact of what the Ravens just did. This a devastating commentary on how the Ravens DON'T feel about him. Lamar should have had a long-term contract after the MVP. That Wildes and Bruh are like..."its just negotiations" is stunning and disturbing.
He couldn’t have gotten a contract after his MVP year, you have to be 3 years in. And they’re right nicks just letting his emotions get in the way just like lamar is, which is his own fault since he doesn’t have an agent. It’s business. You feel like you know what you’re worth? Then go out and get what you’re worth and the ravens will be there at the end of the day to see if it’s something reasonable they can work with. There’s no disrespect in that
@@nbrissette123 well weather you agree or not they have deal with it and I am certain even if somehow by miracle Ravens match the offer Lamar would be happy in Baltimore.
Same thing happened with DeAndre ayton only thing is that this didn't affect suns this much because he ain't the primary option for suns and that's not the case with Ravens they live and die by lamar as he has worst supporting cast since 2018 so whatever Ravens do it's not going matter anymore.
@@nbrissette123 its 100% disrespect. And the funny thing is, the ravens are too dumb to figure out what he's actually worth, so they will let some other team set the price for lamar and they will end up having to match it cuz they got no other options lol. And lamar got so much free time to shop around cuz he won't be playing for the ravens until he gets a deal. Plenty of desperate teams out there that will pay.
@@nbrissette123 and you know what's even worse? How will lamar play for the ravens after this nonsense they pulled with him? He gonna go all out for this team? Doubt it. How about the other players. They seen how bad the team handled lamar, the franchise player. If they treating lamar like this how the ravens gonna treat them when its time for a new contract?
They offered him top 1 or 2 QB money. How is that indicative of "how they DONT feel about him"? Not fully guaranteeing it (which so far only 1 other bad organization has done) has nothing to do w his ability.
Nick, you are so right! The Ravens don't want Lamar anymore. Your colleagues refuse to see it. I hope Atlanta gets him!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
They'll Collude against Him, before they let Fully Guaranteed Contracts become a reality. Nevertheless to each their Own
thank you. you hit the nail on the head. the Ravens owner has A LOT of friends that hate what Cleveland did. they are going to hold their pockets and dry the market up so that the Ravens can say: "see, nobody really wants you at that price. take our deal and like it." if Lamar does not get a respectable max deal you'll know what the reason is. smh
good ol boys club and he's black but hopefully he get it
@@setapartfromtheworld Watson is black too.
It's not crazy to expect a player to have a "bounce back year" going from pretty much the worst receiver group in the league to literally anyone else
Facts...
AND With a broken thumb on his throwing hand. Reminder that Teddy in Miami broke his pinky and missed 4 weeks. Rodgers kept playing with a worse injury.
My only issue with this show is that it’s not on in the mornings anymore. I can’t watch it now because it’s on when I’m at work.
Atleast we get these segments
I just said this bro you know what it was the numbers was too good and they not supposed to be the number 1 show undisputed is
I still like 'em but I liked it with the lady better.
@@Jabril215_ actually I think Colin is the flagship show. He gets paid the most and has a production credit for the other shows.
@@lewisjones3345 really you think so I can’t really get into collins but you make a great point and this new information to me
Nick has been saying this for months. I see why he is about to lose his ish.
The good news if you're a lamar fan is now you know hes getting a long term contract from someone, whether it be the ravens or someone else, mans getting paid
If the jets offered me 160mil guaranteed and the Ravens go to 165mil guaranteed I'm packing my bags, i did everything for you except win a Super Bowl. No off the field issues, never been late(outside of negotiation's last year), 75% win rate and you still wanna kick the tires. "I want them to love me like they love Pac!"
@AilmanMM 100%, relationship is likely irreparable at this point, you build your team around a guy and then don't pay him his worth, it's mind boggling
@AilmanMM
Huh? He won 1 playoff game. Now they owe him whatever he wants? They offered him 250m. That would make him 1st or 2nd highest paid QB. How is that not more than fair? He can't possibly think 2 consecutive lost seasons to injury (and still just 1 W post-season) puts him in a strong position to demand outrageous guaranteed $. Only 1 other QB got a contract like that and it's pretty universally criticized as incredibly foolish of the Browns.
@@user-th2jk8fs2y nobody knows what they've offered him, and the overall amount isn't the important amount it's how much is guaranteed, browns set the market with the watson deal
I said the same thing as Broussard! Turn the plane around New York. As soon as I heard the news I’d be on the way to Miami. Love Aaron but Lamar is younger and you’ll only give up 2 picks versus whatever Aaron demands in a trade.
nicks take at 11:40 really hit them😂😂had them stuck for a second
Lamar is an exponentially higher injury risk than all of the QBs he named and he's asking for a contract none of them demanded.
@@JackFlash771 but even if the ravens are worried about that...its obvious they still want him on the team..they could have gotten a bigger haul for him then just two first round picks....so if they want to keep him pay him or let another team take him
😂😂😂
@@JackFlash771Not more than Dak, who has missed a whole season w/ a broken ankle. Not more than Hurts, who runs as much as Lamar. I don't even think Allen is a lower injury risk given his physical running style and how often he runs. Herbert's level of overall accomplishment is well below Lamar's.
@@JackFlash771Burrow missed a full season. Stop the madness
I’m extremely baffled as to what the ravens are trying to do🤣this is by far the most talented and stable quarterback they’ve had in probably ever and they playing weird games like this? Do they really truly think Huntley is truly a diamond in the rough or what because I’ve never seen anything like this
Nick nailed it! This is like letting your girlfriend go on a date with someone else and when they propose, you swoop in with a nicer ring. You think that’s not going to cause tension??
I wonder if this is going to be another blackball situation kind of like Kap, only instead of situated around the issue of race, it's situated around guaranteed money.
no shot. Lamar is an MVP caliber player. Deshaun sat out an entire year and got the greatest deal in NFL history. At some point a desperate team is going to throw the bag at him, and even if they don't throw as much as Lamar wants, he's going to have to take it. If Kap was as good as Lamar is now, he'd still be in the league.
Brou and Wildes constantly come across as pro business stooges, and it continues to leave them being wrong on these things. At 11:40. Nick ends the convo.
Brou is absolutely correct this is a business and Lamar is a professional. “Young people be soft”
Yes u are sooooo right. I don't understand how they can think the ravens have retained control of the situation with this move.
@Mariano Ortega let's take emotions out of it. Would you rather do business with someone who valued you alot or a little?
@@marianoortega6725 Lamar is a professional. But there's no other way to interpret the Ravens actions other than "We don't think you're THAT valuable." You're right, Lamar is a professional. He showed up to play this season without a deal even though everyone told him not to. If the Ravens match whatever deal he gets, he'll show up and play to the best of his ability because that's who Lamar is. But with this move, the Ravens have all but guaranteed that Lamar will never sign another deal with thieir organization. People don't forget how companies treated them when it came time to put their money where their mouth is. Lamar is gonna give that energy right back to them in 4 years mark my words.
This is like saying everyone who feels their boss appreciates them should go in tomorrow and ask for a raise to double what they make now. They better agree or they're disrespecting you and don't value you. You should just walk. 🤦♂️
Wildes been getting snappy recently. Hopefully it’s nothing big, don’t want to see anything break this up
That's done for the show 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽💯💯😃🤣😃🤣
He only does that when his pats is brung up lol
It's burns. But Nick is right. Lamar is gone.
Lamar to the dolphins would be crazy lol the league would block that 😂 he would finally have a real team
Funny how many ppl think the QB and WRs are the whole football team. The Ravens are better than Miami everywhere except WR.
@@user-th2jk8fs2yfunny you say that because the Dolphins have beaten the Ravens in back-to-back seasons
Haha!! Brew: Turn the plane around and go talk to Lamar! 😂
Lamar should run out and get an agent now to start negotiating. Otherwise he's going to be a busy man on the phone trying to figure it out. Wishing him the best!!!
The NFLPA is in da background. So don’t worry boss👍🏿
@@vincente4570 🙌🏾
Lamar getting treated like Deandre Ayton smh
I'm shocked at how many people agree with Nick. What else are the Ravens supposed to do? This has been a failure on Lamar's part not to realize his value and get a deal done, and so the Ravens are now doing the only thing they can to try and keep him and saying "Hey Lamar, go try the try the open market" in hopes he gets a bit of perspective on his value. This isn't some horrible toxic marriage like Nick loves to compare it to, it's business, personal feelings removed it's really quite easy to understand why they did what they did, but Nick just seems weirdly dug in on this one.
He even touted how advantageous it is for KC going forward that Mahomes has a team friendly deal. That was going to help them stay ahead of Bengals and Bills, who both have to pay big contracts coming up. It really does seem unlike Nick to take this stance, especially so strongly.
Mostly just regular NFL fans I reckon where the Ravens aren't their team. They just want Lamar to get a ton of money, so they don't really care if the Ravens ruin their cap situation (they may even want this, especially if Browns fans)--but unlike the recent media narrative (and the bad S&C coach) the Ravens are a well run team that have great facilities.
Dude the Ravens can literally replace Lamar with Anthony Richardson AND draft Jaxson Smith-Njigba. If any of these top 10 teams in this draft make him an offer, i'm taking the 2 1st and saying bye Felicia. This isn't one sided against the Ravens. Lamar's been doing this nonsense for 2 year on his end too. I'll bet money on it that he's been faking these injuries and sitting after he hits the sixth game or whatever it is that gets him credit for the season. Lamar's not a victim. He's responsible for this. Now with the Rodgers situation, how many of these teams are just done with this clown? Lamar is cruising into that too. Because how does that team know he's actually gonna show up, or once he gets his paycheck he fakes injuries (looking at you midgat qb Murray) because the clown doesn't have to play. He got guaranteed money.
The fact that you think that man is faking injuries when it’s well documented what kind of guy he is character wise is sickening.
You’re pathetic
I would love to wake up tomorrow and read that the Jets execs actually diverted their flight from California to Maryland.
I don't agree with this btw. But I think the ravens plan is to prove to Lamar that he isn't worth as much as he thinks by letting other teams offer him less than what he was asking for and then matching that if he agrees with any of them. Hoping that it will make him accept their offer. Kind of like a big I told you so.
Ravens org has treated their players bad recently. They don't get him any help. He runs the whole offense, of course he'll be banged up. He has arguably the worst receiving core. No good running backs. When he plays he does everything.
You may be right in the OP. But none of what you said in your follow-up comment is true.
At what point do we stop pretending that Lamar Jackson’s contract issues is not because he has bad management?? The reason he fell in the draft is because of how poorly he was handled in the pre-draft process. I mean enough Z’Nuff.
Rogers didn't even show up for summer training
The way Nick talks about Lamar it's like he's got several rings. He won MVP 4 years ago, he's been dinged up at the end of every season, the Ravens are not going to give him the Desean contract (which is what he wants.) This is all Lamar's own doing. Comparing him favorably to other QB's who all have SIGNIFICANTLY less injuries is just your classic Nick strawman argument, I guess it worked by the look of the comments though. 😅
Good thing Nick isn’t a GM. Dallas overpaid Prescott and can’t sign quality players. Ravens front office smart here.👍And NYG crazy giving DJ that much $.😂
They talk about Lamar Jackson as if he has several superbowls in his resume; he won MVP once & was blown out by the Titans in the playoffs that very year. He has underperformed when it matters so many times I would assume the Ravens are letting the market decide his value: if another team offers a huge contract they can match it or, more likely, let him go & rebuild. He isn't worth the same money Mahones, etc earn, that's for sure. He's worth more than Dak Precott & Russell Wilson but those two are the fortunate beneficiaries of moronic decisions by GMs who paid far far too much for their overrated 'talent'; just because Denver & Dallas mess up doesn't mean the Ravens should follow suit. I hope they let LJ go, the way he plays he won't last long anywhere. I do hope the guy gets decent money somewhere though, he comes across as a genuine person & very likeable.
I hadn't seen this. Was Lamar willing to take a lesser contract than he stated earlier, and only Nick knows about it? Because the gulf between the amount was huge last I heard, and this is clearly the Ravens trying to show him that the offers he gets from other teams won't be what he thinks they will be. The man doesn't have an agent, he doesn't know, he blew off the $150 million deal for five years when he's a health risk thinking he could go for $200 mil guaranteed and there's no way.
Lamar's insulted, oh no! How obvious does it need to be? He wants too much, period.
he would make a killer falcon-
If that happens. Then they should trade for Derrick Henry and now you got a shot at tha division fo sho😊
its over for baltimore & Lamar Jackson
Nick is super. It is business but also these are real people with real feelings. Relationships can damaged.
This show was better with the lady.
Still enjoy these guys! But it was better with the lady, Jenna(?)!
Why does Nick care so much about Lamar Jackson??? Lol it’s really weird.
Aaron Rodgers will probably end with the Jets but it will be another Brett Favre error. Rodgers is past his time. Needs to retire..
Come on Niners pull the trigger
As a ravens fan, this is looks to be shrewd from Baltimore. The market needed reset and it already looks like tons of teams are out
Nick is 100% correct on this Lamar stuff. This is a slap in the face to him.
Yeah, super disrespectful to let Lamar see what he's worth.
@@kybernetic8 the issue here is, for a 26 yr old MVP why would you even allow for him to look for better deals. As nick said they wouldn’t do it for Mahomes, Allen, Hurbert, Hurts etc. In my personal opinion I think the ravens org likes him but don’t really want to fully commit and that’s a slap in the face to any player who wanted to retire with said organization
@@kennywilly-beamer1776 Nick is talking out his a$$. Mahomes has won two SBs. Allen has at least been to the AFC championship game. Herbert and Hurts are still on their rookie contracts so who knows. Plus if either guy wanted the guaranteed money that Lamar is apparently demanding, then their situations might play out the same way.
@@buckdraper303 they’ve had two and half years to settle a contract. The market was definitely not as high last year he probably would’ve accepted way less. Also players like Geno smith and Daniel Jones are earning more money this year than Lamar if that’s doesn’t scream no faith then I don’t know does
Chris Broussard is absolutely right about Lamar Jackson Jets pull the plane around will be contenders next 5 years.
The Ravens have given up control and opened Pandora's box
Lamar Jackson needs reverent al Sharpton to negotiate foe him😉
Lamar is going to find out the hard way that Jimmy Haslam doesn't own another NFL team.
Jackson is a one trick pony, same as RGIII was, same a Vick was. They are great at running but are fairly poor throwers. They are prone to injury from all the hits they take from running so much. I know Jackson can hit a wide open receivers because defenses have to focus on his running threat but once he slows down due to all his injuries, the defensive scheme will change and the wide open receivers will be not be as open and then Jackson's accuracy will be a thorn in the Raven's side. Look at Wilson, what has he done since he stopped running and became a pocket QB, utter trash. RG III was out of the league in 3 years because he couldn't run any more due to all his injuries and he was to poor a passer to stay relevant in the game as a pocket QB. Jackson is already on his second serious injury, it won't be long before he's also reduced to be a pocket passer, or like in Wilson's case wants to stop running to prolong his career. He doesn't have the skill to be a pocket passer, so he will also become irrelevant in the game. Giving him a 100% guaranteed contract like the one Watson has will just be wasted money. Good on the Ravens for standing their ground.
Agreed
They never wanted Lamar. He’s gone. If they really wanted this guy they would’ve resigned him when deshaun was getting his first contract. It’s the ravens fault for waiting until deshaun got that ridiculous second contract .
They want him.
Just not at that high price
One thing is unique in Lamars case. There's no agents involved. We all know Watsons fully guaranteed deal is probably what's holding this deal up. Now, would it be impossible that Ravens and Lamar agreed on this unusual course of action to get passed the two year stand still they've reached in negotiations? Lamar gets to prove he's right by finding 200+ fully guaranteed elsewhere. If he does Ravens will accept the price and match it. If not Lamar will agree that Watsons contract is an outlier and accept whatever the market gave him.
good chance if ravens match the contract, Lamar comes around and says im not playing for the ravens
Bingo
Nobody seems to realize this
Ravens aren't sold on Lamar. If he was really their guy, they would have got it done. I am intrigued by the ATL rumors.