8:53 Most likely Willys MBs, although later Soviet GAZ-67 equivalents were also quite common. 10:50 An SG-43 could also be used in that role in lieu of Maxim gun. And again, the vehicle could be GAZ-67.
Too.many TH-cam producers think they are still living in a television era with a wasteful open and close (they think it's cool, even though this not,.so they stick it on) that identifies and advertises the program coming up next. Useful for live television. There is NO such need on TH-cam. We know why we clicked on a video. It only annoys the viewer because he/she ends up taking time to fast forward past the useless intro. Wish those folks would realize this is NOT television.
@@videodistro A lot of them just don't have enough material to make a 10+ minute video so they stretch it. IIRC YT favors 10+ minutes. I think others just like the sound of their own voice and assume it's universal. Anyway it's annoying.
My late Grandfather was a despatch rider in the Royal Hungarian Army, I vaguely remember him. He was wounded in action in 1944 while he was delivering a message, but rode on and completed his mission and quite a few of the stories I heard about him involve motorcycles and lots of danger. He was a hard man, but had a heart of gold. He would absolutely love this video.
My great grandfather was also a dispatch rider in the Royal Hungarian army, sadly he died before I was born. Sadly I don’t know much about his service since he never talked much about it to anyone the only thing I know about his service is that he was in Ukraine.
I'm pretty sure my Great grandpa was in the Royal Hungarian Army at some point too, and he was a horse cavalry messenger or something similar, never really heard enough stories to know (but thinking niw, i should). Oh and yes, i said that I'm pretty sure he was, because he lived on Croatia's border in such a place that he has changed nationality and armies 5 times. Quite funny actually.
@@DanieleCapellini Well if you read my comment, i said my Great grandpa changed armies several times, and that doesn't mean he was fascist. He literally never moved out of his home but still ended up being in many different nation's territory. He also never really saw frontline service and was more of a rear echelon messenger on horseback.
Could also do a bit on the Toyota War as well. In 1987 Libya attacked neighboring Chad and the Chadian Army used their best weapon, the Toyota Hi-Lux, delivering a sound thrashing of the Libyan forces. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_War
Been studying eastern front for 15y and you found something I’ve never heard of! PS for the historical formations, a 2min evaluation of effectiveness/combat record would be fun.
Leave it to the Russians and Germans to come up with some bad shit crazy stuff that just works. Sometimes a little to well but hey efficient and effective.
Спасибо товарищ Battle Order! I had no idea the smg company was mounted in half tracks. Always assumed they were either motorised, or parceled out as tankodesantniki. Thanks for the informative video!
Hey. They were mounted in M3A1 Scout Cars or American M2 half-tracks in recon units only. In normal SMG companies, they were motorized, footmobile or tank riders depending on the specific type of unit
I was never aware that there were units of this size that made such large usage of Lend-Lease equipment in the Soviet Red Army. Although much is written about Lend Lease equipment in the USSR, the fact that there were entire regiment size units that mainly used Western equipment for mobility and we're armed with substantial amounts of Western small arms is something I never knew about.
If I remember correctly, for two years the uniforms of the Red Army were made with American material. And were driven to the front in Studebaker trucks if the rail system was destroyed in the area.
@@jeffreywacker3598 I tell you more from what i've read - USSR only have built 100 locomotives during war, but received 1000 by Lend-Lease programm. And this can be considered as huge boost for Red Army mobility. Studebaker trucks were heavily used for multiple lunch rocket systems BM -13(BM - 31) and totally USSR recieved 400000 trucks by Lend-Lease programm.
@@nagibochnik23 I remember reading the numbers on the Soviet lend lease locomotives, I just couldn't remember the source I read it from so I just didn't mention it in case someone asked for references. Those are truly staggering numbers, and I never knew the Soviet Union only built 100 locomotives (!) during the war. Thank you for sharing that fact with me.
@@jeffreywacker3598 Actually I was not correct in this numbers: USSR received 1900 coal-powered locomotives (which was 2,4 times more than soviet production of coal - powered locomotives, so it gives us about 800 locomotives produced in USSR) and 66 diesel powered locomotives (which was 11 times more than soviet production in diesel - powered locomotives), train cars ten times more than soviet production, and half of all train tracks used during war period.
@@nagibochnik23 While 'US supplied more locomotives than USSR built during the war' is correct. To claim that they gave huge boost in mobility to the red army is dishonest. First American-made locomotives (model S160) were delivered to USSR only in 1943. With slightly less then 200 being only delivered that year. . The next big batches of locomotives which where the EA and EM types only started being deliver after may 1944 with majority of stocks being delivered in 45 and after. Meanwhile the Soviet union had still a park of more then 10 thousand locomotives. Then things like the fact that not all Land lease supplied loco's (Don't remember which model) were able to use the Soviet tracks as they where to heavy for and only were used on rebuilt tracks. If anything you could make a case that post war the newly arrived stock played a part in Soviet Unions reconstruction.
Lot of European armies used motorcycles modified to carry several things . It was an easy , fast , and economical way to move machine guns , and light artillery , like 20mm auto cannons , around the battlefield , without having to produce , special made carriers . The Scandinavians did that as well .
This video made me think of the motorcycle chase in _Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull_ where Indiana Jones and Mutt Williams rode on Mutt's Harley-Davidson to escape Soviet spies.
Funny since Ural's official story is that they secretly bought six R71s in Germany and then smuggled them into the USSR via Sweden. Then heroic Soviet engineers reverse engineered the bike and made the M72. Though I think your story might be more right than mine. :D
My understanding is that after the pact between Germany and the Soviets, the USSR purchased the tooling etc for the R71 from Germany as it had not been selected for use by the Wehrmacht (the Zundapp KS750 and BMW R75 were the designs that won, I believe). As the fellow above me has said, the official soviet story after Barbarossa was that they sneakily acquired them through the Swedes, but that is a big old fib...
In other words, American motorcycles became the horses for Soviet light cavalry. Instead of step horses for horse archers, Harley-Davidson motorbikes where the steeds of choice for people with submachine guns.
They did for traditional light cavalry roles *within* tank units anyways. The Soviets did have dozens of horse cavalry divisions during the war (like around 87 created during the war, probably about a third left by the end of the war) as mobile forces.
@@imtiredtiredtired I can give you Mongols on bikes and Mongolian throat singing. th-cam.com/video/jM8dCGIm6yc/w-d-xo.html There are ethnic Mongolian groups Russia (Kalmyks and Buryats). The USSR and Japan fought a small war over the Manchurian-Mongol border.
@@BattleOrderplease talk about these cavalry divisions and times cavalrymen charged sword drawn I heard that actually happened (with sun machine guns of Peru e why Easton that in call of duty vanguard?)
One day you should explain this assigned platoon from company hq to me in details... how this organic restructuring works in combat time, and why out of combat those troops are tabled outside those units which they are actually organised to be part of in the first place...
As such, they can be used directly under company HQ or assigned to other combat formation on need of that formation. They are outside those units for tactical flexibility, because like I said, they can be used in few different ways while other formations do not need there capabilities on permanent basics.
A man of culture I see. His content's so useful when it comes to interesting regimental organisation and structures to import to my own Guard regiment in 40K
@@ahmadillo4959 ikr, i love using historical TO&E as basis to form guard units, and videos like these are a great way to see and understand the formations discussed, in this channel in particular they are so well presented
The Russians I think used many of their cavalrymen and mounted them on motorcycles. I think the best came from the Kuban and Eastern Ukraine soldiers who came from the Cossack stock of people. Very well versed as traditional light cavalrymen. Cossack cavalry had to be very mobile and use the terrain to avoid detection and to flank. A platoon of motorcycle infantry or cavalry had enough automatic weapons and ammo on them to carry out recon missions, ambushes, or flank attacks to harass or take and hold an objective till relieved. They were the few Soviet units that were autonomous in their operational planning when given a direction to operate in.
I kinda wonder if something like this would work in a modern force? Rec or maybe anti tank add in some drones on the back of a decent sized but still pretty quite bike idk
Great idea. Tanks need people on the ground to spot for and protect them. But infantry can't keep up with tanks, forcing armored units to move as slow as the most exhausted, heavily laden ground pounder slogging thru mud and hating life Motorcycle dragoons are the obvious answer if you cant or wont mechanize the infantry supporting the tanks. I bet Russia is wishing they kept some of these units around righht now, as their t90s explode and throw their turrets all around
Can you do a video on the Estonian Defence Forces, and on the Estonian Defence leauge (KL), as KL is actually bigger in manpower than the EDF. Also Estonia is going soon get Type-x'es unmanned tanks to support their CV90's.
The US Marines still use the M1040 which is diesel engined Kawasaki KLR-650. More militaries are switching to quads since they're easier to ride & more versatile. The Chinese PLA uses the Chiang Jiang 750 sidecar but I think it's the only one due to inherent stability issues of the sidecar design.
As far as I know, only small, elite Special Operation Forces still use motorcycles and quad bikes, but only in certain occasions and on certain terrains.
Mostly due to doctrine and logistics. Its not just about copying the design, testing and making it ready for production but also to design the doctrinal use around the gun as well. This could take a long time and may not even be worth it in the larger scheme of things, especially when you have to supply a war fought on 2 different fronts far far away. As for the MG42, the US did in fact try to copy the design but faced development issues as the MG42's loading mechanism wasn't able to chamber the longer .30-06 cartridge reliably, among other things. They were not able to fix these issues by the time the war ended unfortunately. However, design elements of the MG42 would later end up on the M60 machinegun instead. edit: fixed my sentence structure a bit
You don't fight a war in the objectively "best" way possible. You fight a war in what you "perceive" as the best way possible for "you" There was some development on a copy of the MG42, however there wasn't really serious thought on adopting it. The weapon clashed with the doctrine fielded by the US army at the time. To the US Army, the MG42 was superfluous. It had an unnecessarily high rate of fire which limited the length of it's bursts and expended incredible amounts of ammunition. This was pointless to the US army as they thought that a more accurate, slower firing machinegun could achieve the same goal of suppressing the enemy at a considerable lower expendature in ammunition. This meant a much lower logistical burden and that troops did not have to carry as much ammunition. In addition, the regular US army rifle squad emphasized mobility. This is why the squad's automatic weapon is the BAR instead of the much more comparable M1919. The BAR is much lighter than the M1919, uses less ammunition, and thus requires less ammunition to be carried. The squad is thus less burdened and able to move more quickly than otherwise. Giving a regular US infantry squad a heavy, ammo hungry, lead spewing monster does not make sense if you intend to fight in the way the US army invisions itself fighting. The MG42 was developed to meet the needs of the German army of the period. An army that was expecting to be outnumbered. An army that thought it necessary to have superior firepower to succeed. The high rate of fire makes sense in this context as what you like in numbers, you make up for in the individual firepower. If a smaller German squad can match, if not overwhelm the firepower of a larger allied unit, then the burden of mobility and logistics is an acceptable loss. In summary, different countries have different limitations and freedoms imposed on them and thus fight in different ways according to different doctrines. Countries do not copy each other because it generally doesn't make sense for them to do so, they fight in different ways. Unless they adopt a similar style of fighting, such as for example the Soviets adopting drum mag SMGs from the Finns and the close range tactics with them, countries generally adopt the weapons that serve the way they intend to fight best.
Yes pls, but maybe he should do it later, as Estonia is going to have unmanned tanks to support their CV90's in a year or so, making Estonia one of Europe's strongest armies. So doing it now wouldn't really be maybe that good.
@@prezmrmthegreatiinnovative3235 I don't know when they will come. I think they will start to mass produce the Type-x in 2022, as it is still in it's final stateges of testing. Tho making a video on Estonian Defence Force and Estonian Defence leauge, will be cool even without Type-x'es.
Funny that practically all the footage of motorcycles shows boxer engines, i.e. it is all the Ural M72, the copy of the BMW R71. So the "American" in the title is pretty imaginary - from the footage. It may easily be that massive amounts of Harleys were delivered, like all the other vehicles you have footage of, but...
Soviet propaganda footage tended to show as much soviet-made equipment as possible, somewhat similarly to how mechanized units were over represented in German footage. Also, a lot of the footage shown seems to be early war or even from pre war exercises: look at the almost total lack of PPSh-41s in favor of Mosin nagants (clearly shown at 4:25 ). This would explain the lack of lend lease equipment.
@@sator7806 Of course; I can understand the issue of available footage. I only do not understand the "American" in the title. Effictively it is a (good) video of russian motorcycle troops and almost as second part of lend-lease equipment.
The Soviets received 30,000 American and British motorcycles during the war and only produced 13,000 themselves. Early war and pre-war footage from before receiving all those motorcycles is simply what is more available. The heavy use of Harley-Davidson and Indian motorcycles in these types of units is well documented
@@davidbrennan660 Despite this, the Egyptian Army is vastly different from the one that met Israel in 1973 and has been restructured almost completely. So it would be a fun video to see. Especially since we never hear or get know anything about non-western army structures and organization, and even less so Arab armies.
Correction: At around 5:00 the graphic says the AT Battery from 1941 had 4x 45mm AT guns. It actually had 6x (the voiceover is right)
Noice and love u in Templin Institute Tank video!
Thanks for the like bro 😎
8:53 Most likely Willys MBs, although later Soviet GAZ-67 equivalents were also quite common.
10:50 An SG-43 could also be used in that role in lieu of Maxim gun. And again, the vehicle could be GAZ-67.
I like how there’s no crap to skip through at the beginning, just straight in to the video. I really like that fact. So refreshing.
Too.many TH-cam producers think they are still living in a television era with a wasteful open and close (they think it's cool, even though this not,.so they stick it on) that identifies and advertises the program coming up next. Useful for live television. There is NO such need on TH-cam. We know why we clicked on a video. It only annoys the viewer because he/she ends up taking time to fast forward past the useless intro. Wish those folks would realize this is NOT television.
@@videodistro A lot of them just don't have enough material to make a 10+ minute video so they stretch it. IIRC YT favors 10+ minutes.
I think others just like the sound of their own voice and assume it's universal.
Anyway it's annoying.
Mad Max: Stalin Road
Less of Max following women about and more about tank production and smashing Gitlerite Divisions
Mad Marx
Ruskajaka roga
Russian road
@@currahee1782 hehehe OP missed the opportunity 🤣
Mad Marx*
My late Grandfather was a despatch rider in the Royal Hungarian Army, I vaguely remember him. He was wounded in action in 1944 while he was delivering a message, but rode on and completed his mission and quite a few of the stories I heard about him involve motorcycles and lots of danger. He was a hard man, but had a heart of gold. He would absolutely love this video.
My great grandfather was also a dispatch rider in the Royal Hungarian army, sadly he died before I was born. Sadly I don’t know much about his service since he never talked much about it to anyone the only thing I know about his service is that he was in Ukraine.
I'm pretty sure my Great grandpa was in the Royal Hungarian Army at some point too, and he was a horse cavalry messenger or something similar, never really heard enough stories to know (but thinking niw, i should).
Oh and yes, i said that I'm pretty sure he was, because he lived on Croatia's border in such a place that he has changed nationality and armies 5 times. Quite funny actually.
People really are too comfortable being proud of their fascist relatives.
@@DanieleCapellini ah yes ofc cause every axis soldier was a fascist right?
@@DanieleCapellini Well if you read my comment, i said my Great grandpa changed armies several times, and that doesn't mean he was fascist. He literally never moved out of his home but still ended up being in many different nation's territory. He also never really saw frontline service and was more of a rear echelon messenger on horseback.
Wow. Hope for Toyota technicals that are used by Special Forces/Special Operations Forces units and how they are used in the future.
Look up the tachanka battalions... Russia has a couple battalions of technicals i believe
Literally just off the shelf Hi-Lux.
@@AG3624C that’s badass, didn’t know that existed!
Could also do a bit on the Toyota War as well. In 1987 Libya attacked neighboring Chad and the Chadian Army used their best weapon, the Toyota Hi-Lux, delivering a sound thrashing of the Libyan forces. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_War
Been studying eastern front for 15y and you found something I’ve never heard of!
PS for the historical formations, a 2min evaluation of effectiveness/combat record would be fun.
Leave it to the Russians and Germans to come up with some bad shit crazy stuff that just works. Sometimes a little to well but hey efficient and effective.
"Rebel Without A Cause 2: Soldiers With Objectives"
US hells angles biker culture was started by a bunch of WW2 vets used to rolling around and liberating towns bedding all the girls.
@@logicbomb5511 🤣
As they say, "red goez fasta"
Спасибо товарищ Battle Order! I had no idea the smg company was mounted in half tracks. Always assumed they were either motorised, or parceled out as tankodesantniki. Thanks for the informative video!
Hey. They were mounted in M3A1 Scout Cars or American M2 half-tracks in recon units only. In normal SMG companies, they were motorized, footmobile or tank riders depending on the specific type of unit
As a rider myself and WW2 enthusiast you can imagine how much i liked this video and learned w it :D
im surprised on how effective they are
@iwfj giggi How ineffective you mean? They were solid combination of mobility and firepower that could exploit openings.
@@aleksaradojicic8114 they use their motorcycle recon right
This type of historical videos are really good
US: harley-davidson rider gangs
meanwhile in
SOVIET RUSSIA:
Speaking of Soviet motorcycle, make one about Soviet cavalry.
Literally an American motorcycle
@@leethejuggler1486 owned by the Soviets, meaning it is Soviet's bike
@@leethejuggler1486 It seems like you've missed the part about Soviet motorcycle manufacture.
Oh my, so quality content! My hat off, as a Russian💪
This is SICK!!!
So the Soviets were the first road warriors 😂
Like Max Max but with greater political perception and an understanding of their historic mission for Mother Russia.
Let's be honest, Germans started war with these :D
Mad Marx: Road Proletariat
I was never aware that there were units of this size that made such large usage of Lend-Lease equipment in the Soviet Red Army. Although much is written about Lend Lease equipment in the USSR, the fact that there were entire regiment size units that mainly used Western equipment for mobility and we're armed with substantial amounts of Western small arms is something I never knew about.
If I remember correctly, for two years the uniforms of the Red Army were made with American material. And were driven to the front in Studebaker trucks if the rail system was destroyed in the area.
@@jeffreywacker3598 I tell you more from what i've read - USSR only have built 100 locomotives during war, but received 1000 by Lend-Lease programm. And this can be considered as huge boost for Red Army mobility. Studebaker trucks were heavily used for multiple lunch rocket systems BM -13(BM - 31) and totally USSR recieved 400000 trucks by Lend-Lease programm.
@@nagibochnik23 I remember reading the numbers on the Soviet lend lease locomotives, I just couldn't remember the source I read it from so I just didn't mention it in case someone asked for references. Those are truly staggering numbers, and I never knew the Soviet Union only built 100 locomotives (!) during the war. Thank you for sharing that fact with me.
@@jeffreywacker3598 Actually I was not correct in this numbers: USSR received 1900 coal-powered locomotives (which was 2,4 times more than soviet production of coal - powered locomotives, so it gives us about 800 locomotives produced in USSR) and 66 diesel powered locomotives (which was 11 times more than soviet production in diesel - powered locomotives), train cars ten times more than soviet production, and half of all train tracks used during war period.
@@nagibochnik23 While 'US supplied more locomotives than USSR built during the war' is correct. To claim that they gave huge boost in mobility to the red army is dishonest. First American-made locomotives (model S160) were delivered to USSR only in 1943. With slightly less then 200 being only delivered that year. . The next big batches of locomotives which where the EA and EM types only started being deliver after may 1944 with majority of stocks being delivered in 45 and after. Meanwhile the Soviet union had still a park of more then 10 thousand locomotives. Then things like the fact that not all Land lease supplied loco's (Don't remember which model) were able to use the Soviet tracks as they where to heavy for and only were used on rebuilt tracks. If anything you could make a case that post war the newly arrived stock played a part in Soviet Unions reconstruction.
Lot of European armies used motorcycles modified to carry several things . It was an easy , fast , and economical way to move machine guns , and light artillery , like 20mm auto cannons , around the battlefield , without having to produce , special made carriers . The Scandinavians did that as well .
I like when you do topics that many don't know even exist.
Tachanka 2.0 : electric boogalo
Motorized Boogaloo
This video made me think of the motorcycle chase in _Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull_ where Indiana Jones and Mutt Williams rode on Mutt's Harley-Davidson to escape Soviet spies.
that intro led me thinking about a motorcycle (or rather bicycle )only strategy in hoi4
Totally fascinating unit capabilities and really well made and through video!
those tachanka Jeeps looks cool
They see us rollin'
They runnin'
Advancin' we tryna catch 'em red & dirty.
Tryna catch 'em red & dirty
Tryna catch 'em red & dirty
And those motorbike gangs think they're so cool, these Soviet bikers are the superior species
so in a nuthsell, gun bikes
Ultimate enduro race.
The former Ural importer's story was that the Germans gave the Russians the R71 tooling when they upgraded their military bike to the R65.
Funny since Ural's official story is that they secretly bought six R71s in Germany and then smuggled them into the USSR via Sweden. Then heroic Soviet engineers reverse engineered the bike and made the M72. Though I think your story might be more right than mine. :D
My understanding is that after the pact between Germany and the Soviets, the USSR purchased the tooling etc for the R71 from Germany as it had not been selected for use by the Wehrmacht (the Zundapp KS750 and BMW R75 were the designs that won, I believe). As the fellow above me has said, the official soviet story after Barbarossa was that they sneakily acquired them through the Swedes, but that is a big old fib...
I couldn't unhear that Medal of Honor soundtrack you put into this video certainly loved those games back in the day
Amazing Video. Love these force organisation vids.
"bikes reeking havoc" brilliant description for today's understandings. :)
Sons of Stalin MC
5:40 moments before the dude slipped over
In other words, American motorcycles became the horses for Soviet light cavalry. Instead of step horses for horse archers, Harley-Davidson motorbikes where the steeds of choice for people with submachine guns.
They did for traditional light cavalry roles *within* tank units anyways. The Soviets did have dozens of horse cavalry divisions during the war (like around 87 created during the war, probably about a third left by the end of the war) as mobile forces.
Thanks, now i'm imagining hordes of Harley riders with SMG galloping across the steppe with Mongolian throat music in the background
@@imtiredtiredtired I can give you Mongols on bikes and Mongolian throat singing. th-cam.com/video/jM8dCGIm6yc/w-d-xo.html
There are ethnic Mongolian groups Russia (Kalmyks and Buryats). The USSR and Japan fought a small war over the Manchurian-Mongol border.
@@BattleOrderplease talk about these cavalry divisions and times cavalrymen charged sword drawn I heard that actually happened (with sun machine guns of Peru e why Easton that in call of duty vanguard?)
Damm, the white scars do be terrifying….
One day you should explain this assigned platoon from company hq to me in details... how this organic restructuring works in combat time, and why out of combat those troops are tabled outside those units which they are actually organised to be part of in the first place...
As such, they can be used directly under company HQ or assigned to other combat formation on need of that formation. They are outside those units for tactical flexibility, because like I said, they can be used in few different ways while other formations do not need there capabilities on permanent basics.
Hey, what software/method do you use for the TO&E slides? I want to do something similar for my 40k Astra Militarum custom/homebrew Regiment.
Adobe Illustrator
A man of culture I see. His content's so useful when it comes to interesting regimental organisation and structures to import to my own Guard regiment in 40K
@@ahmadillo4959 ikr, i love using historical TO&E as basis to form guard units, and videos like these are a great way to see and understand the formations discussed, in this channel in particular they are so well presented
12:02 Like fathers, like sons
Ah the Tachanka
In a country like the Soviet Union, those kinds of units works best
Wow. Very informative.
Well, another reason why Italy make a Vespa with recoilless rifle 😂
This isn't your motorbike, it is OUR motorbike (piles on 3 people on 1 motorbike)
Those look like URAL (BMW license-built).
I have a Jeep and an anti materials rifle too. I didn’t know the Russians had it also
The Russians I think used many of their cavalrymen and mounted them on motorcycles. I think the best came from the Kuban and Eastern Ukraine soldiers who came from the Cossack stock of people. Very well versed as traditional light cavalrymen. Cossack cavalry had to be very mobile and use the terrain to avoid detection and to flank. A platoon of motorcycle infantry or cavalry had enough automatic weapons and ammo on them to carry out recon missions, ambushes, or flank attacks to harass or take and hold an objective till relieved. They were the few Soviet units that were autonomous in their operational planning when given a direction to operate in.
Awe hell yeah!
Motokomando!
Could you please make a video on the brandenburgers?
I have to say, I don't think those caps will do much help in terms of head protection in a motorcycle crash.
Its the Eastern Front, there's more to be worried about aside from the occasional crashes
templin institute sent me!
I kinda wonder if something like this would work in a modern force? Rec or maybe anti tank add in some drones on the back of a decent sized but still pretty quite bike idk
It worked back then, it works today.
This was great! I'm working on a recce formation for Flames of War right now and this was great motivation!
Light cav on the iron pony, whats not to love
Great idea. Tanks need people on the ground to spot for and protect them. But infantry can't keep up with tanks, forcing armored units to move as slow as the most exhausted, heavily laden ground pounder slogging thru mud and hating life
Motorcycle dragoons are the obvious answer if you cant or wont mechanize the infantry supporting the tanks. I bet Russia is wishing they kept some of these units around righht now, as their t90s explode and throw their turrets all around
Really interesting.
Never knew this - cool video
Can you do a video on the Estonian Defence Forces, and on the Estonian Defence leauge (KL), as KL is actually bigger in manpower than the EDF. Also Estonia is going soon get Type-x'es unmanned tanks to support their CV90's.
Yoooo templen told me to come here and checks youz outz,. So, hear I am toots and I like what i see.....see. The boss subscribes
How about an Irish infantry company at the time of the siege of Jadotsville.
This is fucking sick yo
Thanks mate
We love to see it.
@BattleOrder >>> Great video...👍
Make video about Croatian rifle squad or IDF rifle squad.
There is nothing interesting about Croatian squad formations when compared to other NATO counterparts.
Alternate German name for the Eastern Front DLC: Ivan and Indians, oh my god there's more of them.
Welcome back Soviet shock motorcycle units
BMW and Ural motobike brothers in Ww2.
Oh this is cool
Ural motorcycles are super popular in Russia 🇷🇺 now
Could you do the German motorcycle corps
Nice
10:48 did I saw tachankas
Son of Order ...
So how would these guys actually fight? Do they just shoot shit from their motorcycles from far away? How do you fight with a motorcycle?
i think mostly like high-mobility infantry.
Differently. Dismounted and on motorcycles. 44-45 Soviet motorcyclists arranged Mad Max in reality.
It warms my heart to know that most of the stuff those guys used was from the USA
Could u do the modern russian mechanized armed forces?
We did: th-cam.com/video/felcqDnfrGA/w-d-xo.html
Sweet
pmc wagner still uses motorcycles
I am waiting to see video of Ukrainians on dirt bikes with AT launchers.
They already are i believe, way to make their grandparents proud from fighting german fascists on motorbikes to russian ones.
@@epicgamer3614based
Tachankas turned into jeep tachankas
I had a dnepr what a pos but I miss it lol
Sweeet new video
4:22 why was that officer saluting with left hand?
Can you a video soviet armored car use lime the ba10s and ba64s?
You never hear about this part of the Soviet War machine.
I wonder if the Russian military or any military still uses motorcycles in any way?
The US Marines still use the M1040 which is diesel engined Kawasaki KLR-650. More militaries are switching to quads since they're easier to ride & more versatile. The Chinese PLA uses the Chiang Jiang 750 sidecar but I think it's the only one due to inherent stability issues of the sidecar design.
They now use atv for their at companies
Urrah!
80 years later and the Sovi- I mean the Russians are using Motorcycles again 😂
The REAL motor-rifle troops
Wondering such units can exist today?
As far as I know, only small, elite Special Operation Forces still use motorcycles and quad bikes, but only in certain occasions and on certain terrains.
Polish calvary... 1 🐎 power
Soviet calvary... 50 🐎 🐴 🎠 🏇 power
Good 🇧🇷🔥
Why don't countries just copy the enemy when they're clearly outmatched in a certain field. Like the Americans could've copied the mg 42.
Because doctrinal reasons.
@@aleksaradojicic8114 that's dumb it's war
@@comradepolarbear6920 You wage war by that doctrine. It is dumb only to one that does not understand how military works.
Mostly due to doctrine and logistics. Its not just about copying the design, testing and making it ready for production but also to design the doctrinal use around the gun as well. This could take a long time and may not even be worth it in the larger scheme of things, especially when you have to supply a war fought on 2 different fronts far far away.
As for the MG42, the US did in fact try to copy the design but faced development issues as the MG42's loading mechanism wasn't able to chamber the longer .30-06 cartridge reliably, among other things. They were not able to fix these issues by the time the war ended unfortunately. However, design elements of the MG42 would later end up on the M60 machinegun instead.
edit: fixed my sentence structure a bit
You don't fight a war in the objectively "best" way possible. You fight a war in what you "perceive" as the best way possible for "you"
There was some development on a copy of the MG42, however there wasn't really serious thought on adopting it. The weapon clashed with the doctrine fielded by the US army at the time.
To the US Army, the MG42 was superfluous. It had an unnecessarily high rate of fire which limited the length of it's bursts and expended incredible amounts of ammunition. This was pointless to the US army as they thought that a more accurate, slower firing machinegun could achieve the same goal of suppressing the enemy at a considerable lower expendature in ammunition. This meant a much lower logistical burden and that troops did not have to carry as much ammunition.
In addition, the regular US army rifle squad emphasized mobility. This is why the squad's automatic weapon is the BAR instead of the much more comparable M1919. The BAR is much lighter than the M1919, uses less ammunition, and thus requires less ammunition to be carried. The squad is thus less burdened and able to move more quickly than otherwise.
Giving a regular US infantry squad a heavy, ammo hungry, lead spewing monster does not make sense if you intend to fight in the way the US army invisions itself fighting.
The MG42 was developed to meet the needs of the German army of the period. An army that was expecting to be outnumbered. An army that thought it necessary to have superior firepower to succeed. The high rate of fire makes sense in this context as what you like in numbers, you make up for in the individual firepower. If a smaller German squad can match, if not overwhelm the firepower of a larger allied unit, then the burden of mobility and logistics is an acceptable loss.
In summary, different countries have different limitations and freedoms imposed on them and thus fight in different ways according to different doctrines. Countries do not copy each other because it generally doesn't make sense for them to do so, they fight in different ways. Unless they adopt a similar style of fighting, such as for example the Soviets adopting drum mag SMGs from the Finns and the close range tactics with them, countries generally adopt the weapons that serve the way they intend to fight best.
Thumbnail says Ura !
Instead of Ural.
Ura (ура) is a Russian battle cry. It is referencing that, not Ural.
@@BattleOrder So the video is not about the Ural motorcycle? Ok
Algorithm, hi
anyone know what the soundtrack is called?
do vids about the ESTONIAN DEEENCE FORCES Brigades and other units equipment and etc
Yes pls, but maybe he should do it later, as Estonia is going to have unmanned tanks to support their CV90's in a year or so, making Estonia one of Europe's strongest armies. So doing it now wouldn't really be maybe that good.
@@tankart3645 alright thx ill wait
@@prezmrmthegreatiinnovative3235 I don't know when they will come. I think they will start to mass produce the Type-x in 2022, as it is still in it's final stateges of testing. Tho making a video on Estonian Defence Force and Estonian Defence leauge, will be cool even without Type-x'es.
@@tankart3645 alright
@@tankart3645 " making Estonia one of Europe's strongest armies"... Stop! Just stop!
Funny that practically all the footage of motorcycles shows boxer engines, i.e. it is all the Ural M72, the copy of the BMW R71.
So the "American" in the title is pretty imaginary - from the footage.
It may easily be that massive amounts of Harleys were delivered, like all the other vehicles you have footage of, but...
Soviet propaganda footage tended to show as much soviet-made equipment as possible, somewhat similarly to how mechanized units were over represented in German footage.
Also, a lot of the footage shown seems to be early war or even from pre war exercises: look at the almost total lack of PPSh-41s in favor of Mosin nagants (clearly shown at 4:25 ). This would explain the lack of lend lease equipment.
@@sator7806 Of course; I can understand the issue of available footage. I only do not understand the "American" in the title. Effictively it is a (good) video of russian motorcycle troops and almost as second part of lend-lease equipment.
The Soviets received 30,000 American and British motorcycles during the war and only produced 13,000 themselves. Early war and pre-war footage from before receiving all those motorcycles is simply what is more available. The heavy use of Harley-Davidson and Indian motorcycles in these types of units is well documented
Can you do Egyptian Army organization?
Their Military Ceremonial Band has to be heard to be believed.
@@davidbrennan660 Despite this, the Egyptian Army is vastly different from the one that met Israel in 1973 and has been restructured almost completely. So it would be a fun video to see. Especially since we never hear or get know anything about non-western army structures and organization, and even less so Arab armies.
@@BijiMustardGas Depends if they have sources around which they can work.