Aaron, Cat dealer Technology sales guy here with several Cat Command deployments in the USA. Great video and overall sense of our SATS solution! I appreciate highlight the benefits of Cat Command for Dozing. Side note: operator feel isn't necessary when you use grade control in the cab either, so I hope the comment section understands that. The most important thing for Command for Dozing is having that pitch roll sensor in your gut and it ends up transitioning to the station. This summer I taught an intern in a week how to operate with zero experience, but the addition of Cat grade 3D allowed them to get a feel for the machine. All while I'm remote control working safely and sitting next to them coaching along the way. The solid blue is RC Ready (available for remote) and Flashing Blue is RC Run (meaning operating in remote or SATS) 14:57
I was with Cat headquarters in Peoria in the 60's ... and a parts and service sales rep in the field. Back then you got a detailed parts book with a machine purchase. There were parts grams and service memos coming out all the time. And service manuals could be purchased. Dealer support was superb... and expensive. There were no electronics to speak of. Caterpillar inventory control and parts distribution (i.e. product support) was the best in the world. There were no orphans. They made all their money on parts (i.e. gave away the razors and made it up on blades). They were a $2B company back then and export sales just started exceeding domestic revenues. That's been the case ever since.
In the cost-savings segment, y’all forgot to mention all of money saved from head count reduction. With 5 dozers being operated by 2 people, the mine fired 60% of their pre-automation dozer operators. Maybe that’s not a statistic you want to highlight, but it’s a fact.
It's what capitalism is "actually" about. A shovel is capital. A man is labor. A man with a shovel can dig a hole faster than a man without a shovel. And the difference pays for the cost of the shovel... and then some. "Leverage" is the most significant component in "all" wealth creation.
@@jackrobertson7888I would have said probably not for the 6 off machines. The jobs you mentioned will be handled by existing staff or contractors. It won't be a 1:1 replacement for sure. The biggest saving will be the insurance costs and the reduction of H and S issues. It's just the way it is and has always been.
@@toddmarshall7573do you have any idea the amount of RISK and the Billions of dollars it takes to open, operate and maintain a mine and how quickly they can go bankrupt? It’s clear you have no clue! These mines operate on thin profit margins just as contractors do which means every expense needs to be accounted for and minimized as much as possible to be profitable and successful unlike big Govt, politicians and bureaucrats who waste billions of taxpayer dollars with zero accountability and zero interest in efficiency and effective management and spending.
I hadta wear a helmet and composite toe while loading and hauling and delivering fuel.....IT'S A DAMN LIQUID, it's not gonna fall on my head or break my toe, its liquid. Lol
After 40 years of heavy equipment operating, I find autonomous very interesting. I feel cheated that i never got even with the machines that ruined by back.
1976 to 1985 I worked in the miming industry as an equipment operator. My first year in a coal mine in the Rocky Mountains driving haul truck. Drove for 1 year and honestly got so sick to the stomach of driving that one shift I got half way up the ladder and stopped. The man bus moved on and if it hadn’t I would have climbed down and got in back to the dry and quit. However I stuck with it and soon after went on to Cat. It was the repetition of driving that was the catalyst. At least on Cat I could be more focused on creating than just steering.
@@billortloff4215 Yep..The repetitiveness of the job. Some people don’t mind it. Running scrapers the same thing. At least with Cats you have to be thinking all the time.
Yea that was the first thing I was thinking is you cant feel the machine under you. Still as a 44+ year vet I have mixed feeling about this but in this application I can see the benefit.
Hey buildwit! Next time your at finning CAT, I have a suggestion for explaining machine size.. take a normal tipper and 320 excavator that would normally be seen on a highway working and show them for scale up against all the big gear!
Pretty neat how technology works now. My buddy runs an underground scoop at a mine that is more than 400 km away 👌. Safety is #1 in these scenarios vs what you just showed . Still crazy to see where we have come in the last 100 yrs 😲
Thank you for making this type of videos. All men were boys at one point. Most men still have the boy like imagination and always have wanted to operate heavy machinery!!
Looks awesome! BUT....these are absolutely perfect dozing conditions. Yet I see a good bit of trackspin and below volume bladefill. Note all dozers are on full return to back of pit instead of cutting out front section and shortening travel times. I have tens of thousands of hours operating dozers. I am NOT against autonomous operation. It has its place. But like posted elsewhere, there is the cover story and there is the real world. Get them in mountainous terrain and tell the dozer to build the first drill bench....or maybe ask them to build a retention pond! A bucket leveler on a wheel loader should never fail either..........or the auto cycle process.......But......
I remember my mining days of abudhabi new airport 2006 where cat dozers about 12 nos.deployed with tough terrain and my favorite the scrappers., I was project in charge and qualified Mechanical Engineer., we were thinking of autonomous those days itself ., thank you I saw mine after several years as I am retired.,
He mentioned that they can run 22 hrs a day. Maybe I missed it but were there infrared modes for the cameras that enable night driving? I didn’t notice any portable light poles that might illuminate the work area for the night shift?
There are lighting plants above the dozer push with the camera trailers, they also just use the lights on the dozer, same way an operator would at night
15:35 with all the mentioning of efficiency and uptime, I'm now wondering why in shots like these seemingly only half the time all 5 dozers move at once.
Autonomy has alot to do with money aswell they just label it efficiency so no one has a sook, instead of paying 5 operators 120 or 130k a year they pay 2, yes these systems cost alot but they make that back considering they don't have 5 people to worry about anymore, same goes with the trucks they run them 24/7 for "efficiency" but most of them are flogged out sitting on the dead line 😂
ironically our drones were messing with the connection. But we didn't realize it until we were on another side in Germany where the same thing was happening
@@AaronWitt that's a surprisingly logical answer. Makes sense in hindsight, drones use obviously a similar technology to transfer their own video and control streams...
@@willibenbi6387Similar to self-checkout lanes. I hate them with a passion personally, but they're all you can use at a lot of places most of the time. 1 underpaid moron overseeing 8-10 of them instead of paying more cashiers.
@@stewatparkpark2933 as a WV Cat Mechanic, I was wondering the same thing, I have seen operators absolutely destroy a machine because they were ignoring warning indicators or pushing (even a D11) well beyond its limits, the time all favorite is "I shut it down as soon as I heard that noise" ,dude, you melted the entire torque and transmission out of it, that didn't happen in the last five minutes before shut down.
@@scout2nutIn the automotive world, you never trust the owner/driver of the vehicle. They generally lie about issues to save face, but then end up paying the mechanic more hours to figure out what really happened, and still see how stupid they were anyway. They never seem to want to look dumb and spend less vs. look dumb and spend more. 😂
I just hope the new remote technology like software part isn’t locked where you need brand technicians and also deal with the dealership but is something any mechanic can get training and do themselves
These are really informative videos. One question I have with remote dozing though, So these are experienced operators who are now operating them autonomously, so how do the next generation of operators get that experience if all the dozers are auto?
It's funny that at 11:06 you can literally see someone sitting inside of the dozer😂 You can see his left and right arm on the controls and his safety jacket, his body shaking from the uneven drive. I don't mean that they are lying or something, just an observation. Maybe sometimes there is someone working in them or they want to see the difference between autonomous and normal operation.
my assumption is because their out filming on the cut, they would go back to manual in the seat operation to reduce the risk of a person getting run over or not be seen on a camera and getting flattened.
@@My_Special_k good point, I wouldn't trust those things with my life. And I don't think that they are very good at detecting people around of them, or even able to. The people around them are probably responsible for their own safety and shouldn't get too close to them.
I actually work at lake vermont, they can only run 5 auto dozers at a time but sometimes have more than 5 in the push so some are manned, all the auto dozers can also be manned
Hasn't happened yet after decades. We're short labor in all these businesses. This area of Australia has a lot of problems getting people out there and the could be doing 4 times the work if they had the bodies.
@@sparksmcgee6641 We haven't had this tech for decades yet, and Australia isn't the only country where a lot of jobs are on the line due to automation. I tell young people all the time that now is the time to learn about robotics and electronics, since that's where the new need is going to be. Unfortunately, not everyone is cut out for that. The world needs jobs for men and women of all skills and levels of ability and intelligence. It's not my problem to fix by any means, but I do worry for our sons and daughters about what the future looks like. We have our own slew of workforce issues in the USA on top of this, for a thousand different reasons that politicians won't tell you the truth about. AI is another major worry of mine. We'll have to adapt, but I suspect it's going to be rough for a whole lot of people.
With every step of advancement in technology society takes three steps back in socialology & humanity. One human operator eliminates three human jobs with a joystick.
I thought per cubic yard a dragline is cheaper unless multiple seams where have split bench . I remember big Peabody Mine Started truck shovel and dozers . They had switch to 100 yd dragline . I heard video they were like 8 draglines running same area . Guess depends how much coal got strip ! Enjoyed the video
Very interesting, continuing progress in the quest for efficiencies to be competitive in a world wide market. …just wondering about the cameras, how long before the lens becomes so dusty it needs to be cleaned? , night shift? how much more difficult is it to get camera images with dust reflection from the dozer lights? …refuelling/ lube procedures? . … do the dozers come to the fuel trucks while being remotely operated? Or do fuel trucks go out to the dozers? …….. and I did see the one dozer was doing a fair bit of track spinning with a blade a bit too full , 😊…… sensors are good , but not prefect 😀
Don’t worry come to Canada mines are hiring and it is not everyone who wants to work there. Since it isn’t a job/career they offer us to pick in high school.
There is a huge bright side to all types of robots. Gen X was the last working class. It's either robots or nothing. Would I personally run a doser. In a heartbeat. Yet. I went to trucking instead. I had an uncle who did it. He loved it. Yet again. He was in a working class. I had another uncle that was the head driller on most of the oil well out in the Gulf of Mexico. His shift was 23 hours on and one hour off. The younger generations can't comprehend doing work like that. Enjoy the robots doing your jobs.
so when the motor starts making the sweet valve tick noise or a funny smell from the under side, no ones inside to say lets shut this down and save a big money machine
"Aaron, I have a query about autonomous systems. How are critical systems like fire control managed remotely? In the event of small fires in areas without coverage, what is the protocol for using portable extinguishers? Thanks."
They can remotely set off fire suppression that all dozer carry if there is a fire plus if personnel needs to enter into the autonomous zone the dozers stop and you can put out fire by hand.
Worked around these albatrosses for years. Sensors always failing from heat and vibration, drills trying to walk off the high wall, dozers backing into high walls, both walking over rocks and shocking the machines undercarriage, always breaking down right in the middle of the cut, geo fences failing, but the companies spend millions trying to eliminate a few employees, so they say they’re the best thing under the sun, never mind the insane maintenance costs from the specialty mechanics. POS’s
@kevinking3402 Those are just growing pains, they will eventually figure things out. In long term it is worth it. Remember we are in population decline, so less people to operate those machines. Firms are thinking in long term not just in couple years ahead, many think in decades forward.
I think the savings of labour for the dozer operators are absolutely insignificant here, compared to the operating costs of a normal dozer, plus the additional costs of this technology and the technicians required to run them. If they run 2 people on 5 dozers or 5 people, doesn't make any significant difference financially. But they claim that the productivity is better, 23h a day compared to 17h a day, allegedly. But with the right personal management, they could get to 23h a day with normal operators. Shorter shifts without the need of a break, faster change between shifts and more shits per day.
@@IronWarrior95 As a retired farmer running regular tractors for 65 years I came to realise vibration is a virtual killer. I can no longer run an 80 HP 4WD loader for more than 4 hours when my muscle nerves fail to function. Some far younger contemporaries know this too. I also know that air ride suspension removes much o this but not all. EU now has regulations on amount of vibration or operator hours for various jobs so I can see , with all the workplace litigation, more than just the operator output should also be considered. Just a thought!
In the near future robots in human shape doing the maintenance of those machines, and the real people without a job watching these videos and then realising that they have no jobs anymore…I mean even the camera guy will be replace by a robot 🤖
Mine sites love this. Less workers, pay packets and less eyes on what is going on. Run into a cultural significant site and have total deniability. We didn't see anything. Run though a field of prehistoric fossils. We didn't see anything. No chance of work stopping to preserve history.
Are the people running these, still considered operators?. Or are they now just computer tecs? Also, who's job is it to now check oils and grease the machine?
This is cool and all... but there goes more jobs for people trying to provide for themselves. Just like any other automated production line or this that and the other. Jobs gone to save from paying people so the companies/corporations can make more money. It's always been about greed.
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Aaron, Cat dealer Technology sales guy here with several Cat Command deployments in the USA. Great video and overall sense of our SATS solution! I appreciate highlight the benefits of Cat Command for Dozing.
Side note: operator feel isn't necessary when you use grade control in the cab either, so I hope the comment section understands that. The most important thing for Command for Dozing is having that pitch roll sensor in your gut and it ends up transitioning to the station. This summer I taught an intern in a week how to operate with zero experience, but the addition of Cat grade 3D allowed them to get a feel for the machine. All while I'm remote control working safely and sitting next to them coaching along the way.
The solid blue is RC Ready (available for remote) and Flashing Blue is RC Run (meaning operating in remote or SATS) 14:57
I was with Cat headquarters in Peoria in the 60's ... and a parts and service sales rep in the field. Back then you got a detailed parts book with a machine purchase. There were parts grams and service memos coming out all the time. And service manuals could be purchased. Dealer support was superb... and expensive. There were no electronics to speak of. Caterpillar inventory control and parts distribution (i.e. product support) was the best in the world. There were no orphans. They made all their money on parts (i.e. gave away the razors and made it up on blades). They were a $2B company back then and export sales just started exceeding domestic revenues. That's been the case ever since.
Hey buddy. Time for another site visit. Get me out of this office!
In the cost-savings segment, y’all forgot to mention all of money saved from head count reduction. With 5 dozers being operated by 2 people, the mine fired 60% of their pre-automation dozer operators.
Maybe that’s not a statistic you want to highlight, but it’s a fact.
And replaced with auto elcetritions and software engineers probably same amount of jobs just more skilled people
It's what capitalism is "actually" about. A shovel is capital. A man is labor. A man with a shovel can dig a hole faster than a man without a shovel. And the difference pays for the cost of the shovel... and then some. "Leverage" is the most significant component in "all" wealth creation.
@@jackrobertson7888I would have said probably not for the 6 off machines. The jobs you mentioned will be handled by existing staff or contractors. It won't be a 1:1 replacement for sure. The biggest saving will be the insurance costs and the reduction of H and S issues.
It's just the way it is and has always been.
@@jackrobertson7888 how many operators will they train to fix them........ZERO.
@@toddmarshall7573do you have any idea the amount of RISK and the Billions of dollars it takes to open, operate and maintain a mine and how quickly they can go bankrupt? It’s clear you have no clue! These mines operate on thin profit margins just as contractors do which means every expense needs to be accounted for and minimized as much as possible to be profitable and successful unlike big Govt, politicians and bureaucrats who waste billions of taxpayer dollars with zero accountability and zero interest in efficiency and effective management and spending.
I like how the remote operator still wears PPE, surprised the company doesn’t make them have a helmet and glasses too.
They may also have to head out in the field and run the tractors from time to time. They're still on site
I hadta wear a helmet and composite toe while loading and hauling and delivering fuel.....IT'S A DAMN LIQUID, it's not gonna fall on my head or break my toe, its liquid. Lol
@@adamfrbs9259 The safety officer at Marathon’s Detroit refinery used to walk around stomping drivers boots to make sure they were steel toe.
Welcome to Australia and NZ boys.
There is no other uniform anyways 🤷♀️
Great show, Aaron. Thanks for sharing and taking us along. Have a great weekend!!
Happy to be part of crews doing this stuff
I work for Thiess and they are an amazing company!
At the end of the day your a number and that's it
After 40 years of heavy equipment operating, I find autonomous very interesting. I feel cheated that i never got even with the machines that ruined by back.
everyone I've met that works around the autonomous units are extremely positive about them
1976 to 1985 I worked in the miming industry as an equipment operator. My first year in a coal mine in the Rocky Mountains driving haul truck. Drove for 1 year and honestly got so sick to the stomach of driving that one shift I got half way up the ladder and stopped. The man bus moved on and if it hadn’t I would have climbed down and got in back to the dry and quit. However I stuck with it and soon after went on to Cat. It was the repetition of driving that was the catalyst. At least on Cat I could be more focused on creating than just steering.
@@Bobcagon That gets a lot of people. I preferred road construction to mine trucks.
@@billortloff4215 Yep..The repetitiveness of the job. Some people don’t mind it. Running scrapers the same thing. At least with Cats you have to be thinking all the time.
Yea that was the first thing I was thinking is you cant feel the machine under you. Still as a 44+ year vet I have mixed feeling about this but in this application I can see the benefit.
Yeah the cost of something going wrong and no one being there to catch it in time is going to be expensive.
@@matt45540 You know how many times there has been an ass in a seat when something has gone wrong? 100%. Much of the time is is expensive.
With dozers being very efficient why do they choose to switch to excavator & truck with so much overburden left above the coal.
The coal seam is never uniform "flat" so humans are needed to distinguish the difference between pay and overburden
@@nunyabizzness6468 Makes sense
Time. Slow
truck and excavator is a lot more flexible. You have to have just the right conditions for the dozer push to make sense
@@AaronWitt 👍
Great explanation. You asked all the questions I would have asked!
Hey buildwit! Next time your at finning CAT, I have a suggestion for explaining machine size.. take a normal tipper and 320 excavator that would normally be seen on a highway working and show them for scale up against all the big gear!
They should bring in Autonomous Management
You know why employers go to robots? To get away from the greed and belligerence of you union fucks.
Unlike an operator, managerial skills can’t be replaced with autonomy.
@@lukeparsons583 yeah, a couple of monkeys would do.
@@lukeparsons583 20 years ago, that's exactly what the operators used to say.
@lukeparsons583 only because the tech is not backwards compatible.
Pretty neat how technology works now. My buddy runs an underground scoop at a mine that is more than 400 km away 👌. Safety is #1 in these scenarios vs what you just showed . Still crazy to see where we have come in the last 100 yrs 😲
Thank you for making this type of videos. All men were boys at one point. Most men still have the boy like imagination and always have wanted to operate heavy machinery!!
thank you for watching!!
That was a great mini doco.
Thanks! 🙏
Looks awesome! BUT....these are absolutely perfect dozing conditions. Yet I see a good bit of trackspin and below volume bladefill. Note all dozers are on full return to back of pit instead of cutting out front section and shortening travel times.
I have tens of thousands of hours operating dozers. I am NOT against autonomous operation. It has its place. But like posted elsewhere, there is the cover story and there is the real world. Get them in mountainous terrain and tell the dozer to build the first drill bench....or maybe ask them to build a retention pond!
A bucket leveler on a wheel loader should never fail either..........or the auto cycle process.......But......
Sat on the 9800 at Burton when we moved it out of blast exclusion zone, man they are a big unit
This was cool to watch! Nice job Aaron!
those automated dozers sure stopped randomly a lot
Aaron explained in another reply, that it turned out that their drone was interrupting the data connection with the dozers.
@@markfryer9880 I didn't see that, I appreciate the info!
I worked on this project before it went to the field. Man time flies.
I remember my mining days of abudhabi new airport 2006 where cat dozers about 12 nos.deployed with tough terrain and my favorite the scrappers., I was project in charge and qualified Mechanical Engineer., we were thinking of autonomous those days itself ., thank you I saw mine after several years as I am retired.,
We got Avatar Bulldozers before GTA 6
Aza great video mate and fantastic footage of all the machines and a detailed explanation on how it all operates 👌🏻👍
He mentioned that they can run 22 hrs a day. Maybe I missed it but were there infrared modes for the cameras that enable night driving? I didn’t notice any portable light poles that might illuminate the work area for the night shift?
Autonomous mode uses GPS!
There are lighting plants above the dozer push with the camera trailers, they also just use the lights on the dozer, same way an operator would at night
Hey Aaron, I think itd be awesome if youd be able to visit the Tilden Mine in Upper Michigan. The area has a ton of history
15:35 with all the mentioning of efficiency and uptime, I'm now wondering why in shots like these seemingly only half the time all 5 dozers move at once.
Autonomy has alot to do with money aswell they just label it efficiency so no one has a sook, instead of paying 5 operators 120 or 130k a year they pay 2, yes these systems cost alot but they make that back considering they don't have 5 people to worry about anymore, same goes with the trucks they run them 24/7 for "efficiency" but most of them are flogged out sitting on the dead line 😂
ironically our drones were messing with the connection. But we didn't realize it until we were on another side in Germany where the same thing was happening
@@AaronWitt that's a surprisingly logical answer. Makes sense in hindsight, drones use obviously a similar technology to transfer their own video and control streams...
@@AaronWittwhoops 🤭 😬
@@willibenbi6387Similar to self-checkout lanes. I hate them with a passion personally, but they're all you can use at a lot of places most of the time. 1 underpaid moron overseeing 8-10 of them instead of paying more cashiers.
You could only imagine the amount of maintenance and mechanics you need for this new robotic revolution
its all steer by wire anyway already
Probably less , no humans to wreck things .
@@stewatparkpark2933 as a WV Cat Mechanic, I was wondering the same thing, I have seen operators absolutely destroy a machine because they were ignoring warning indicators or pushing (even a D11) well beyond its limits, the time all favorite is "I shut it down as soon as I heard that noise" ,dude, you melted the entire torque and transmission out of it, that didn't happen in the last five minutes before shut down.
@@scout2nutIn the automotive world, you never trust the owner/driver of the vehicle. They generally lie about issues to save face, but then end up paying the mechanic more hours to figure out what really happened, and still see how stupid they were anyway. They never seem to want to look dumb and spend less vs. look dumb and spend more. 😂
I just hope the new remote technology like software part isn’t locked where you need brand technicians and also deal with the dealership but is something any mechanic can get training and do themselves
These are really informative videos.
One question I have with remote dozing though, So these are experienced operators who are now operating them autonomously, so how do the next generation of operators get that experience if all the dozers are auto?
Friggen awesome video guys.
Another stellar video
You're improving .
Gary smiths coal mining in Appalachia vid has 13 d11s in same cut…I used to steam clean on that job in hazard Ky…Marion 8050…cat793s…p&h shovel
It is definitely my favourite site I have ever worked at that's for sure
That’s amazing man
I love videos like this❤
Mesabi iron range in Minnesota is a similar collection of iron mines, very cool please make a video on it!
Very cool. Obviously blading to a smooth surface is not important
It's funny that at 11:06 you can literally see someone sitting inside of the dozer😂 You can see his left and right arm on the controls and his safety jacket, his body shaking from the uneven drive. I don't mean that they are lying or something, just an observation. Maybe sometimes there is someone working in them or they want to see the difference between autonomous and normal operation.
my assumption is because their out filming on the cut, they would go back to manual in the seat operation to reduce the risk of a person getting run over or not be seen on a camera and getting flattened.
@@My_Special_k good point, I wouldn't trust those things with my life. And I don't think that they are very good at detecting people around of them, or even able to. The people around them are probably responsible for their own safety and shouldn't get too close to them.
I actually work at lake vermont, they can only run 5 auto dozers at a time but sometimes have more than 5 in the push so some are manned, all the auto dozers can also be manned
The stack of lights on the side of the ROPS shows what mode they’re in, blue light means auto mode, green light is a manned dozer
... Sup with the poster in the dozer room at 9:37? 🤣
Awesome 👍 Thanks
😂looks like bots got here before i did. Fun content by the way
5 autonomous D11's is kinda terrifying, I've seen T2 and Maximum Overdrive. Lol
Killdozer is more like it.
Only a few more years until they've trained themselves out of a job!
They can retrain as Baristas .
Hasn't happened yet after decades. We're short labor in all these businesses. This area of Australia has a lot of problems getting people out there and the could be doing 4 times the work if they had the bodies.
@@sparksmcgee6641 We haven't had this tech for decades yet, and Australia isn't the only country where a lot of jobs are on the line due to automation. I tell young people all the time that now is the time to learn about robotics and electronics, since that's where the new need is going to be. Unfortunately, not everyone is cut out for that. The world needs jobs for men and women of all skills and levels of ability and intelligence. It's not my problem to fix by any means, but I do worry for our sons and daughters about what the future looks like. We have our own slew of workforce issues in the USA on top of this, for a thousand different reasons that politicians won't tell you the truth about. AI is another major worry of mine. We'll have to adapt, but I suspect it's going to be rough for a whole lot of people.
@@sparksmcgee6641 bullshit
@@Tim798Bran Are you slow?
I think about how nice this would be on landfill taking the operators out of the hazardous material
With every step of advancement in technology society takes three steps back in socialology & humanity. One human operator eliminates three human jobs with a joystick.
Great video
I thought per cubic yard a dragline is cheaper unless multiple seams where have split bench . I remember big Peabody Mine Started truck shovel and dozers . They had switch to 100 yd dragline . I heard video they were like 8 draglines running same area . Guess depends how much coal got strip ! Enjoyed the video
Very interesting, continuing progress in the quest for efficiencies to be competitive in a world wide market. …just wondering about the cameras, how long before the lens becomes so dusty it needs to be cleaned? , night shift? how much more difficult is it to get camera images with dust reflection from the dozer lights? …refuelling/ lube procedures? . … do the dozers come to the fuel trucks while being remotely operated? Or do fuel trucks go out to the dozers? ……..
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I did see the one dozer was doing a fair bit of track spinning with a blade a bit too full , 😊…… sensors are good , but not prefect 😀
9:34 Why is there an upside down pineapple photo in the control room?? 🤦🏻♂️. If you know…you know. 🤣🤣
There ain’t such a thing as HR in mining hahaha
i think i need to learn to fix these "autonomous" things so i dont loose my job.
Don’t worry come to Canada mines are hiring and it is not everyone who wants to work there. Since it isn’t a job/career they offer us to pick in high school.
If you think this threatens you job you are already out of a job... by your own doing.
it would be awesome to do an autonomous killdozer with 5 machines!
That would be boring looking at screens all day I’d rather be in the dozer
Hey man..I'm impresses by your video, where can I go for Training on how to operate this machines ?
There is a huge bright side to all types of robots. Gen X was the last working class. It's either robots or nothing. Would I personally run a doser. In a heartbeat. Yet. I went to trucking instead. I had an uncle who did it. He loved it. Yet again. He was in a working class. I had another uncle that was the head driller on most of the oil well out in the Gulf of Mexico. His shift was 23 hours on and one hour off. The younger generations can't comprehend doing work like that. Enjoy the robots doing your jobs.
... you forgot to add ... they are powered by a chewing gum. Wrigley?
Mate when did u come to lake Vermont because i m on B crew there and i would have love to meet you. Ur like a icon to me 🥺🥺
so close yet so far -- thanks for making it happen out there
@AaronWitt i hope so make sure u do it on B crew haha keep up the great work you and your team do
I assume that refueling these machines is still done the old fashion way.... Autonomous refueling?
They’re parked up once a day on a go line and inspected by a diesel fitter and also refueled by a serviceman in a service truck
Hey Aaron
Could you visit Canada to review the Cat 797 autonomous fleet?
That's Great!. You can work from home.
You can train an algorithm for 3 years just for it to replace your job*
so when the motor starts making the sweet valve tick noise or a funny smell from the under side, no ones inside to say lets shut this down and save a big money machine
Goodbye to the Aussie worker
"Aaron, I have a query about autonomous systems. How are critical systems like fire control managed remotely? In the event of small fires in areas without coverage, what is the protocol for using portable extinguishers? Thanks."
They can remotely set off fire suppression that all dozer carry if there is a fire plus if personnel needs to enter into the autonomous zone the dozers stop and you can put out fire by hand.
Quite sad to see such a futuristic tech to mine metallurgical coal like its 1924 or even the 1800s and DRI+EAF hasn't been commercialized
We are going to technology ourselves right out of existence very soon
Nobody should work these jobs. Free human time for more fulfilling endeavors
@@zeitgeist2720Who pays for those endeavours?
Oh cool, You mean I can order a remote control killdozer, I was planning on building one but if I can order one it might speed up my planned caos!
It’s all good until some kid or someone with bad intentions hacks in and takes control.
How do you get out of bed every morning... I mean with a head full of bogeymen living rent free. Why that must be a heavy burden.
Interesting, do you have any information of the type/branch of their GNSS system?
Worked around these albatrosses for years. Sensors always failing from heat and vibration, drills trying to walk off the high wall, dozers backing into high walls, both walking over rocks and shocking the machines undercarriage, always breaking down right in the middle of the cut, geo fences failing, but the companies spend millions trying to eliminate a few employees, so they say they’re the best thing under the sun, never mind the insane maintenance costs from the specialty mechanics. POS’s
@kevinking3402
Those are just growing pains, they will eventually figure things out. In long term it is worth it. Remember we are in population decline, so less people to operate those machines. Firms are thinking in long term not just in couple years ahead, many think in decades forward.
I think the savings of labour for the dozer operators are absolutely insignificant here, compared to the operating costs of a normal dozer, plus the additional costs of this technology and the technicians required to run them. If they run 2 people on 5 dozers or 5 people, doesn't make any significant difference financially. But they claim that the productivity is better, 23h a day compared to 17h a day, allegedly. But with the right personal management, they could get to 23h a day with normal operators. Shorter shifts without the need of a break, faster change between shifts and more shits per day.
@@IronWarrior95 As a retired farmer running regular tractors for 65 years I came to realise vibration is a virtual killer. I can no longer run an 80 HP 4WD loader for more than 4 hours when my muscle nerves fail to function. Some far younger contemporaries know this too. I also know that air ride suspension removes much o this but not all. EU now has regulations on amount of vibration or operator hours for various jobs so I can see , with all the workplace litigation, more than just the operator output should also be considered. Just a thought!
Awesome❤
Awesome that these companies already pay bugger all tax in Australia and now they don’t even need to provide many jobs to take our resources 🙄
Take our resources, pay no tax, destroy our water systems
TH-cam why did this not show up in my sub feed 🤔
Just need to upgrade to a high end VR system to work around the depth perception issue.
8:30 the side eye! 😂
This seems safe.....
In the near future robots in human shape doing the maintenance of those machines, and the real people without a job watching these videos and then realising that they have no jobs anymore…I mean even the camera guy will be replace by a robot 🤖
One good thing is the company can cut back on the amount of Araldite they have to get from the hardware store
Cool ! 🤙
One step closer to mining in space.
Possibly but the logistics is hard.
They took ma job
More aussi stuff
Cool!
13:00 Aaron just talked one of them out of a job.
Better hope Thiess isn't watching. 😅😅
I love big machinery not office buildings. Ill sit in the machine thanks.
Mine sites love this. Less workers, pay packets and less eyes on what is going on. Run into a cultural significant site and have total deniability. We didn't see anything. Run though a field of prehistoric fossils. We didn't see anything. No chance of work stopping to preserve history.
They use VNC for some kind of remote control....
How do these dozers work again?
Really amaizing. Robots saves humans).
Yeah for shore
im in😎
Local 542 here this is sad a lot
Oh the fun Marv Heemeyer could have had 😮
🙋🏼♂️ an OldTimer once said “ if you ain’t pushing dirt , drugs or whores , you ain’t pushing sh t “ 🤠
Are the people running these, still considered operators?. Or are they now just computer tecs?
Also, who's job is it to now check oils and grease the machine?
Any gold in that over burdon?
Only fire clay
But where's the big feck off explosion?
Something a little dystopian about this...
Any dragline Operator opening
Not to increase efficiency minning company to increase their profits point blank !!
Same thing captian obvious.
This is cool and all... but there goes more jobs for people trying to provide for themselves. Just like any other automated production line or this that and the other. Jobs gone to save from paying people so the companies/corporations can make more money. It's always been about greed.
Real life farm simulator