3. Frankenlise. The S1 Elise That Lotus Would Kill
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 มิ.ย. 2024
- Finally got to the bottom of the damage to my Lotus Elise S1 and it doesn't look pretty. The chassis rail is quite badly damaged and Lotus would surely recommend a new chassis but I'm looking at other options.
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"Hello is that the plasterer?,I've a Lotus that needs rendering"🤣
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Obviously a plasterer who didn't know about drywall, considering the thickness of that patch.
Have to admire your constant optimism and upbeat attitude Jack! 👍
Definitely a 'can do' person!
I concur!
Jack, the only man in the country that would catch Covid-19 and see it as a positive opportunity to get to see inside an intensive care ward.
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He better Not as I love his videos, n the grown jewel for me is the Elise thanks mate
Definitely taking the place of Captain Tom for the "one day at a time tomorrow will be a better day" attitude
Jack's fuel tank is never half empty.
The attitude is fantastic.
"My Ferrari has a cracked head and my Lotus has a smashed frame and I'm just delighted!" Man, whatever you are drinking or smoking, I want some of it, lol. Positive attitude extraordinare.
Ha!! The Lotus was my fault really.. I knew it was damaged! No point getting upset, better to just deal with things! Though the Ferrari cracked head really is a nuisance
Exactly!! This guy loves (and laughs) at money pits!!
@@ferraridinoman today we're going to find out whether buying a totally destroyed car is worth it!
He's the English Hoovie!
@@ferraridinoman PSSSST! All cars are money pits.
Jack - Please use axle stands. I was cringing seeing the back on a single centre mounted jack! PS Great vids.
So fixable. What's most frustrating about this, is that it could have been fixed properly for hardly anything more than it took to conceal this mess.
Not that easy to fix these chassis. I don't think they will ever be able to restore the weird non-stick coating on it.
Agreed, there’s some right w@nkers out there
Man, I don't know how you do it, keeping calm, a positive attitude and pushing on ... I draw my hat in awe.
Anyone else finding this channel creeping into their top 3 car channels on TH-cam, awesome stuff
The first person who ‘fixed’ and then sold on that death trap should hang their head in shame. You’re right that it’s shocking what people will do to make a little extra cash 🙁
really dangerous .. so the chassis of the Elise is not repaired ..
That's discusting. Not ur reply, the supposed fix
You have to ask why wasn't the car properly inspected before being allowed back on the road.
Well said.
Be interesting to see a wheel alignment reading before the cars repaired Jack 👍.
Yeah, it looks look the chassis is slightly bowed up.
It should be jigged with a steel frame and measured (for any shimming to new parts) before anything gets cut.
He said in an earlier video it was all fine
@@driftmonkey3646 Appears fine by the way it drives he said. That's not the same as being straight and correct on a pull table. I agree it does look bowed. Having said that I'm optimistic. There is probably a chassis out there that a section can be cut out of to speed up the repair. Some pulling and hammer/dolly work should help but the aluminium will harden if you do a lot of that. A couple of good long straight edges and bit of measuring should give a useful idea as to how the 2 sides compare.
I love the enthusiasm of this guy. Gotta be one of the most positive people in the car world, if not in the whole of the UK. Great to see people like this and many could learn from his positive outlook on cars and life. I always say that you must always find a positive in a negative situation...
Jack you are an inspiration to people who are down and need a lift. Your channel is certainly genuine and not full of the usual crap you see these days. Keep up the great work you do. I’ll always come back and watch your positive attitude and outlook...
That’s very kind Brian, thank you and really glad you’re enjoying the videos.. just between you and me I’m not always quite that positive off camera!! 🤣🤣
Astonishing that they made absolutely no attempt at any kind of structural repair.
They were as dump as him, not knowing that it is a structural piece!
I see this sort of shite regularly, nothing shocks me anymore.Apart from more than enough cars not welded back together properly after major repairs I have seen a wooden (and carved with some skill)chassis rail and outrigger,a Sill on a P100 held on barely with tile adhesive,a cut and shut rs turbo welded only at the screen pillars and overlap pop riveted elsewhere,,concrete chassis on transits,transits with new ply screwed onto the load floor cross braces with absolutely no floor underneath.fiat scudo engine held in place with one self tapper into a chassis rail/ inner wing they was only superficial by virtue of only having a top and one side the rest being silver duct tape, a vauxhall Agila with a Corsa electric steering column cable tied into place,bathroom sealant seems to be a favourite for rust 'repairs',and my personal favourite was a recently purchased Citroen with 3 badly worn pads and one wooden pad!! Just some off the top of my head.I have stood by awkwardly far too many times while someone cries their eyes out or loses their shit in front of me when I have shown them what their money has paid for or what they have been driving around in.Sometimes not surprising given at how nonchalant a lot of people still are about buying a car. One thing is for certain the art of bodgery will continue and now with tech such as aluminium construction and composites becoming more mainstream,the knowledge,ability and materials needed to effect a good repair will become even more specialist,as in expensive. Given that situation you can only imagine that this sort of thing will be more common,not mentioning the amount of cars you remove a perfectly good front bumper from to find the front crash bar stoved in and the rad cluster bowed or twisted,insignia, qashqai and juke particularly.
This is why you have to be careful when buying Elises. It probably went to some "approved" repairer from an insurance company who didn't know what they were doing on this chassis. It isn't just cosmetic damage as the sills give strength to the whole tub and supports the rollbar.
I don't even know how I found your channel but it's becoming one of my favorites.. I am a huge Lotus fan so I will be going back over these videos for a binge watch..
You have the perfect attitude for working on cars like this and I will be moving my Patreon from another channel over to yours
Good news, that car is so worth saving, looking forward to seeing the progress.
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Thanks for sharing. Phil is indeed the man and should be able to help you out. Best of luck with the rebuild. I've seen some shocking bodges on lotus cars before but this is the new crowned winner.
I too cant believe the level of bodging that people carry out on cars. It seems that they have put just as much effort into covering up the damage as they would have sorting it properly.
I just love your enthusiasm when uncovering the damage, I would have been crying and angry, all credit to you 👍.
Its an interesting project and just gods to show how strong that Elise chassis actually us.
😱, I’d love to see the original adverts for the cars you buy, with sensitive details removed of course... “1 careful owner, car has a few age related marks, exciting ownership opportunity. car seeking a new owner with an optimistic outlook on life”
Loving this project already.....you're an inspiration to getting the job done right and saving another sports car classic for many more to enjoy down the line. Keep up the great work. All the best Andy
Your endless enthusiasm is a marvel to watch even when dealing with a dog of an Elise
The Damned: El(o)ise.
Two words 'TVR and Glen' spring to mind with this car .
Yes that's exactly who I was trying to remember! Half suprised this isn't where it came from ha
I think I get the TVR reference, but Glen?
@@ProfessorOzone there was someone who used to deal in cat c/d write off TVRs and lotus etc who went by the name TVR Glen
@@warrenc-h6144 Ah, thank you. That clears things up.
Great project Jack. Great TH-cam channel. Always enjoy the long awaited next installment! Thank you.
Well done for not giving up on it amazed it got through an inspection when it was repaired orignally
That does look repairable ,needs a decent fabricator welder ! Looks like whoever done the last repair has got shares in a Filler company !
Not sure he’d even need a welder tbh, I think elises are mostly riveted and bonded together!
Yes you could cut out the bad and weld in new but the chassis will be twisted
@@bsimpson6204 yes you would need to jig the chassis but could be done .
@@bsimpson6204 The chassis can be checked on a jig and pulled straight if necessary. The skills/equipment are a dying breed but there’s still companies out there that do it (because the expense isn’t enough to write off classic cars that replacement shells can’t be bought for).
Brilliant! I overlooked these at the time but now I think they are great as things get more complex most of us here want a pure, simpler driving experience. Looking forward to the progress!
Absolutely digging this build Jack! Keep up the good work!
I applaud your optimism. Look forward to seeing it back on the road!
Your positivity is infectious. Love the excitement at getting to use your cutting disc lol. Car might basically be f***ed, but you're still happy because you get to play with a power tool. Respect.
Very entertaining video! Looking forward to the rest of the Elise journey :)
Another great vid and some positive news as well.
Properly repaired that will be a strong chassis, as you’ve said it won’t be “lotus approved” but it will still be safe.
Keep on going Jack 👍
A repair to this chassis will be neither strong nor safe. This car needs a new chassis and I strongly doubt that Phil will be associated with bodging this (i.e. anything other than a chassis replacement) - assuming this is the Phil I'm thinking of in the Lotus community.
When you did the 'big reveal' I said out loud: "Well, that doesn't look bad."
It will be some work to fix it properly but I think you will have yourself a nice little driver once you are all said and done.
The level of bodgery is horrific! People have no consciouses! I hope you managed to get it sorted! I can't believe you still have a smile on your face! Keep up the good work!
Back in the 1980s I worked on a Ralt RT-4 Formula Atlantic/Pacific, they had a tub that was folded aluminium sheet, any reasonable hit would kink on a front wheel would kink the tub, the solution was simply to cut behind the kink and weld in a new section.
The tub on this Lotus has much thicker sheet but the fix is just the same.
You need a racing car specialist rather than a normal panel shop.
Good luck Jack. Phil certainly will point you in the right direction. Thanks for the mention of SELOC too
Welcome to Bodge City folks 👍 Blimey Jack you've got some work here, good on you and thanks for the lockdown busting videos 👍👍
Hi Jack, glad to see you bought the floor Jack I recommended - great bit of kit 😁
I'm aghast at those repairs, glad you're taking the time to fix it all up properly.
Love to see the car fixed. Your attitude is amazing.
Wow! Another cracking vid. Your very brave Jack. Can't wait to see how this all goes.
Improvise, adapt & overcome - well done Jack 👍
Always amazed at what you’ll undertake in the driveway....or in that tiny garage. Kudos.
Horrific stuff in this video, in order of horrorness....
1) lack of axle stands
2) the pyjama trousers
3) a bit of a hole in the sill
Nice work mister. Fun to watch, keep up your great work & enthusiasm 👍🏼
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As always, very interesting video, and I am looking forward to hearing what will the body shop say.
Yet, I can't help but think that hiding a bent wing with filler is one thing, hiding a default in a safety component is another.
Imagine what would have happened to whoever had driven this car and had a collision on the same side or something requiring the roll cage to be effective.
Glad you didn't have any accidents when you where driving before 😳. Some unscrupulous people out there! Stay safe.
We’re loving this journey, can’t wait until the next episode. Stay safe. Vint-tro ✌🏻
Fantastic video! Love that thing with no body!! I bet it comes back stronger than stock!
Really good watch, thanks Jack! Can’t wait to see how this turns out! They sure had some shares in Isopon....
Wow!
I can't believe the car drove as well as it did. Have to give respect to Lotus for a well made...designed...Hell just a good car!
I'm really pumped for this project.
Cheers
TBH, I was expecting worse, but with every negative there's a positive: footage and content for the channel. And infamy for those who are personally aware of and involved with the car's jaded history. A great outcome will be a restored car who's repair is heavily documented. Great stuff :)
Great video. Your Lotus deserves the attention.
Looking forward to this rebuild
Think this might be my new favourite car channel.
You are an inspiration to keep going and seeing the positive in everything
Well done mate you are a legend!!!
They spent more time bodging it than it would have taken to repair that entire section correctly in the first place.
Indeed, but way cheaper.
@@geoffwatches No more expensive , just more now how with the right tools
The correct repair was 7 grands worth of chassis and a full rebuild. So the bodge saved a lot of money if you think about it.
@@wayneelliott8277 If you now what you are doing this can be fixed . Its bonded together flat alloy sections .Now how is the key to saving money with anything in life . Its not like are steel body monocoque where you can get replacement sections and weld back in
There is no way to repair this. You need a new chassis! This is totally unsafe to use and totally irresponsible to drive it anywhere near other people!
Jack good progress made already having stripped her down and identified the damage look forward to further updates
wow super confidence !.....looks like a write off to me. Hope you get it fixed.
your talents continue to snowball, as does your confidence and good humoured positivity...this on top of the 308's latest would have broken most people!! - If the cupholder jams, I would be heading back to the tv / youtube for a de-stress...!
Wow good luck with that! I admire how determined you are! Will you be putting the car on some sort jig to ensure the geometry of the back wheels is correct when you weld in the new section?
Great car and worth the effort. I'm pleased you're doing it right. Phil is the right person to do it. 👍
Jack it’s cold mate, you should be doing that in your living room!! 😂
A decent metal basher should sort it in no time - you've done all the hard work exposing everything
Loving the content jack, nothing is impossible, keep positive, all will be good.
The filler pieces clanging together sound a lot like bones in horror movies. How fitting.
Fascinating, in a morbidly curious kinda way! Looking forward to seeing the resolution 👍🏼
Ideally, you can find an Elise being parted out due to a big hit somewhere else,. Then you could fit a replacement section in from that car with butted or plated welds. Proper modern adhesives might even be safe. Good luck, Jack. I look forward to following your progress.
Dude looks like a number27 unit is the next best move
Looking-forward to your channels growth .
Cool!!!!! this rebuild is gonna be awesome , she's saveable !!!! so glad to see it's not as bad as it could of been, great content as usual mate......
Cool episode, really exciting. I've been inspired to have a few pyjama sessions on my 911 this last week 🤣
Good luck with it Jack !
Junks is the man for all things Lotus. Enjoyed my days as a Seloc'er
I am so glad that this plucky little car looks like it's going to be repaired and given a chance to show its heart.
This can’t be fixed! It is a structural damage and totally unsafe to use! It needs a new chassis! One will never get the rigidity it needs back. The damaged part is where the highest loads are, once the aluminum got bent it cannot be bent back without losing some of its strength as well!
love how you still have your humour, right in the face of adversity.....
Great content as always. ! Looking forward to seeing the progress on your elise 😁
Thanks buddy!
@@Number27 This can’t be fixed! It is a structural damage and totally unsafe to use! It needs a new chassis! One will never get the rigidity it needs back. The damaged part is where the highest loads are, once the aluminum got bent it cannot be bent back without losing some of its strength as well!
Hi mate.... wow!! Poor little Lotus, it will be great if she is put right again and as long as an experienced technician/body welder deals with her it will be good as new im sure. Its a great car that just needed a big chunk of love, well done sir and keep it up.
😊🌈😁......at least you can say you put your stamp on it fir sure.
When I saw the thumbnail “Nooooo, what has he done ?!!!” 🤣🤣🤣
Great job on the intro and your editing.I really like your videos.Not many people have the courage or the skills to do the type of projects that you take on.
Thanks Chris, that’s really kind and pleased you like my stuff!
It’s not about having the courage or skill, it’s about having the knowledge and experience to know when something isn’t worth doing as its dangerous. But there again, it would make a good TH-cam channel would it. Problem is too many TH-cam bodgers out there that think they know what they are doing and buy scrap from copart, cause all copart are interested in is making money, not the ramifications of poorly repaired vehicles on the roads.
You are wise to get a pro to fix it, I think there's more gluing than welding. Can't wait to see the progress....good luck from Rome Jack👍🇬🇧
Reminds me of an article in the late 80s on how one guy's favoured technique for "restoring" E-types involved using bits of drainpipe and rolled up newspapers for the sill repairs...
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This reminds me of that episode of Father Ted where the two priests attempt to repair a small scratch on a Rover and end up demolishing the car in the process despite an ever-present optimism.
"a truck father jack? TWO TRUCKS!"
@@funkyhouseman getting off topic, but remember the miraculous image on the skirting board so Ted could kick the bishop up the arse? Jaysus i pissed meself...
@@johnphaceas7434 oh yes, that was one of the greats! I'm going to watch all of the father Ted's again, so quotable!
Top nerd fact - Edd China was the bloke that did the special effects on Father Ted and he made the famously smashed up Rover.
@@CarambleTV great knowledge, i didn't know that!
Buy nice or buy twice.
This is the problem with written off cars. You don’t know who’s fixed them, or tried to fix them.
Enjoy your channel and keep up the good work.
Hope you get it roadworthy Jack, great work!
It's got all the makings of a pheonix rising from the ashes!
That's insane! You ripped it all apart!!
Not everyrhing is about money, I think it is great that you follow your dream. A lot is not doing that!!
Right now I working on my 1973 Camaro Z28 RS and my 1969 Mustang Mach 1 it cost money and time, but that is how it is :- )
Keep up the good work !!
As you thought Jack, this is going to make great content. I'll be "glued" to the continuing Lotus vids - Lol :-)
Lord have mercy! I have an S2 Elise and it's an absolute delight. I hope you'll be able to restore this little buggy. The great advantage of the Elise is it's complete simplicity. I wouldn't attempt an extensive frame repair on most cars but these frames are so "straight forward." Pun intended ;-)
A good summing up - "... it could have been even worse...". Good vid and continued good luck with this - looking forward to seeing next stage 👍
This can’t be fixed! It is a structural damage and totally unsafe to use! It needs a new chassis! One will never get the rigidity it needs back. The damaged part is where the highest loads are, once the aluminum got bent it cannot be bent back without losing some of its strength as well!
@@grossmeister1181 Not sure why you're telling me? I just enjoyed the vid and looking forward to the next...
Great to see you've unearthed the mystery and looking on the positive side. Prime chance to do other jobs (cambelt etc) whilst the rear clam is off ?
Cambelt? Chassis first. Else this is bodge central. Anyone with any lotus knowledge knows this in this current state is chassis or nothing. It's over. Or replacement S1 chassis.
Yeh, good to see that's repairable, maybe with a little extra internal bracing. Shocking initial bodge though, they didn't even attempt to pull it out and strengthen 😱
Yes, 100% criminal bas...ds.
It's probably a good thing that they didn't! At least now, he's got a clean slate and can do it right.
It is not repairable! It is structurally damaged and weakened!
@@grossmeister1181 Like I have told many of my clients- anything can be fixed --- if you are willing to throw enough money at it 😉
@@marceld6061 More important than simply throwing money at it which is no guarantee of a job well done, is finding the expertise to do it competently. They are out there. Trick is finding them.
Death trap, whoever bodged that up should be in prison - Good luck getting that chassis fixed
That escalated quickly!
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Good luck 👍
Your lotus mentor Phil (also known as junks on SELOC) really is brilliant and knows his stuff. 👍
Totally agree. If it's Mr Peek, he'll sort it but I'd be absolutely shocked if he didn't insist on a complete replacement chassis.
Colin Bailey, watch this space! Phil has a lot of support from some very talented people in SELOC.
That must be repairable. Rest of the car looks fine!.....still can’t believe how well you take bad news. You really must love repairing cars😂👍
Ha!! Well car was cheap(ish) and repair should not be too expensive!
Wow, you are a brave man. I would be crapping my pants to find this!
Welcome to Bodge City where you never know what dangers lie just beneath the veneer...
Thanks for positive thinking❤️, please secure for next time your car lift with additional car jack stands
The location of that impact was probably what confined the damage to a small area. Notice that it's primarily below the roll bar. That likely absorbed and then returned a lot of energy by acting like a spring.
Jez definitely living up to it moniker Lots Of Trouble Usually Serious! 😬
Blimey, you don't hang about do ya! Good work. I really admire your attitude of getting stuck in :)
Thanks Ewan..hope you’re doing well buddy!