Why The Lexus ES is Winning...For Now
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- The Lexus ES sedan is one of the best selling vehicles for Lexus. Sedans aren't gone yet and the ES is proof of that. We discuss what makes the Lexus ES great and what can be done in the future to help improve the sales. See my Lexus RX video here: • Why The Lexus RX SUV i...
I have done several reviews on the Lexus ES like the ES 350, ES 300h, and previous models and I believe the ES is one of the best cars you can buy new or used. The quality of the drive as well as the interior puts it in near-flagship levels of quality. If you are an owner of the ES, let me know what you like and don't like about the car.
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i've owned several new vehicles and the es350 has the most uncomfortable seats i've set on. the interior needs better material and road noise is too pronounced. the dealerships need to stop charging for things you're not getting, such as processing fee, nitrogen, and etc.
Coming from a 2015 5 series BMW I can confirm the ES as been the best most reliable luxury car I have owned. I am almost three years with my 2019 ES and the reliability and comfort are outstanding. The previous German monstrosity I owned needed a sensor repaired every year, even though it was covered by my warranty the car had to be in the dealer many times and it was very frustrating. The ES is the best choice if you don't want want to deal with car issues down the road.
how does it compare in term of comfort and noise levels?
You're right Kevin, the RX and ES are great vehicles. Has pretty much everything you need in a car.
Especially the new ones!
@@MeynMotorGroup yeah the 2019-newer ES and 2016-newer RX are solid 👌
The 2 best your gonna get for your money. I have them both flawless. German car's suck
@@kevhun1 German cars are awesome! - Every money hungry mechanic
@@JohnSmith-pu3hy lol
I purchased a new 2022 ES and love it. I read quite a few reviews first and yours was very helpful. One big reason is the V6 runs on regular gas and with the current gas prices that is a big deal. This car is so comfortable and just a pleasure to drive. The windshield wipers are silent in fact the whole car is quiet. Much better quality than my 5 series. Thanks for the reviews I enjoy them.
Do you get snow where you are? If so, how does it handle?
Love mine! Quite, powerful, comfortable and reliable. Dealer network is very good and my dealer (Northtown Lexus, Amherst NY) is an 11 on a scale of 1-10. ES holds value, and if maintained correctly they will drive on long after the German sedans are recycled! On road trips getting 34-37 MPG and 22-23 around town and I have a lead foot. Roomy and serene, with great features for the $$. Yes infotainment is a bit unusual but I find it works from for me. My wife’s BMW X5 2019 has touch screen but a lot of her tech is problematic too. I love mine and am thankful every time I use the ES 350!
The greatness of the ES cannot be overstated in terms of low LS sales...LS was a dream car for many but hard to justify the extra 40k for “materials and minor trunk increase???” Great vid Kevin!!!!
The previous LS models in my opinion were one of the nicest quality vehicles in the world. Workmanship was top notch and the engines were silky smooth and built to last. The model that is out now is not the same vehicle.
@theory816 Facts, one of the main reasons I don't like the new LS is it doesn't have the V8 engine anymore. This new v6 turbo gave this car a whole new character.
We have 20 RX and 21 ES at home. I was considering the LS but I did not like the fact that it combines the ECVT and 4 speed auto - shifting was obscure. I would ho for LS should there be v6 / hybrid like the one in RX (perhaps with turbo for extra weight). But dollar for dollar, ES is 100% better daily driver with around 60% of consumption LS has. Still love LS for its posture, but the businessman in me said NO this time :D. The RX is the best of the lineup, but I dont like the looks that much. My wife loves it though.
I will add, that I had my interior door pannels refitted by the dealer. Squeeked a bit. That was a bit unexpected and one could say embarrassing. ES that was. RX is dead solid machine. Well, its the generation older car so thats that.
I bought my wife a Lexus ES 330 for $3,000 and it only had 60,000 miles.
-Scotty Kilmer
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OG
Its es 300 not 330 🤣🤣
@@baiyarravan You’re right, I was wrong about the ES 330.
As an older man, I've owned a number of American and European automobiles. My 2004 Lexus ES 330 is my first Japanese vehicle. After nearly 20 years, it has yet to need more than routine maintenance, and delivering comfortability and driving pleasure. Should I purchase another car, it will unquestionably be a new version of this one.
I think you'd be very impressed with the driving demeanor of the new one. The 2019 marked the first all-new platform for this car since basically '92, and it's a much more modern car with a stiffer chassis that allows better steering and handling without degrading the ride quality.
My wife's 2008 Lexus ES350 with 140k miles still drives & feels friggin amazing!! Long live the ES.
Very nice!
You’re just broken in. I have one too, 2011
I have 2019 ES300h and 110k miles
Retired baby boomers love the ES. In my parents retirement community so many people including my mom has an es. 4 of the top 10 selling Lexus dealers (JM Lexus, Lexus of Pembrooke pines, Lexus of palm beach, and Lexus of north Miami) are in south Florida.
Kevin, I bought my new ES 350 with luckury package a little over two months ago and I have to admit in all my years of driving and owning many cars this is by far my favorite car. I really can't think of anything I don't like with it. I recently did a road trip of 1400 miles and averaging 80 mph I got almost 33 mpg. I also wanted to mention I have the Mark Levinson audio system and wow does is sound great, I highly recommend if you can to definitely get the upgrade. Thx for all the great reciews and have a happy and blessed New Year my friend. My car is the 2020 and was purchased brand new.
Wow absolutely stunning my friend massive congrats! You did it right! And thank you so much, I wish you and your family a blessed holidays and happy new year!
ML AUDIO ia amazing
Do you get snow where you are? If so, how does it handle?
This is a beautiful car, I have the 2015 ES. It really needs fold down rear seats to compete with SUV.
Good stuff man, keep driving!
Great video breaking down the ES bro just got finished watching 👍🏾👍🏾
This is becoming one of my favorite channels! For Me it’s This, Shooting Cars, Tom Voelk, Steve Hammes & Throttle House!💪🏽
Humbled to be mentioned amongst those names. Thank you!
They need to focus marketing on how quiet and how smooth they drive. They need to be the first thing that comes to mind when you want a serene and comfortable driving experience.
I'm glad your making more of these discussion videos especially since they seem to be doing well. I'm really interested to see where Lexus goes from here because some of the new Lexus models look really cool but with Genesis offering even better looking vehicles imo and with decent reliability, good quality interior, etc it's gonna cause some intense competitiveness it's gonna be really interesting what they do
Hey thanks and I agree competition is increasing in this segment for sure
Great videos! New to Lexus, via Toyota and Honda. Am totally blown away. Wasnt ready to be so impressed with the 2013 ES350 ultimate luxury package that we found in 2022. The detail, finish, thought, comfort, grace, power, and practicall elagant style keeps rocking. Everything is still fresh and the car keeps delivering buckets of joy. I salute everyone at Lexus responsable for this master piece! Well done. Cheers
Good choice!
Thank you Kevin, nice video. Many people are awaiting for the arrival of Lexus to Mexico this december 2021. We have read many satisfaction histories from all of you. We are willing to see these magnificent cars challenging the german premium cars, which have 80% of the mexican premium market. Greetings from Mexico.
I’m a Bimmer owner (19’ G12 ) who’s sick and tired of reliability issues , i will buy ES 350 soon .
my IN -LAWS HAVE BMW's -nothing but trouble and high repair costs !
BMW---Breaking My Wallet!!!
@@alanhumphrey4198 it is still under warranty but even the dealer sometimes mis-analyze its issues . Which tells me this is not a keeper .
Keep growing man, love your channel!
Thank you!
The ES 350 is an amazing car, Drive nice and smooth, My favorite is the F sport, It's nice and elegant with a sporty touch, wish Lexus increased the horse power on the f sport to 311 HP. I would like to see a comparison between the ES 350 sport vs Nissan Maxima since they are both FWD....Great Review Kevin...Thank you and Happy Holidays.
You hit the nail on the head! I'm in Australia and I'm still thinking of purchasing an ES300H. If it had a better power train with AWD/ rear folding seats and full panoramic sunroof it would be the perfect car for me I'd never even look at another car....
We just bought an ES350-2022/Silver color and I LOVE IT!!. I exchange my MDX2011, I was thinking of getting NX350 but ended up getting the ES. So happy very comfortable, fast and quiet!!
The lexus es is a lovely car to drive
Yea I love the new es for sure
@@MrMustangrick the es isn't met to be a sports car
@@MrMustangrick It's a smooth, luxurious cruiser
Replacing large-displacement engines with small stressed turbocharged units is a sin 😭
Yea unfortunately the regulations are pretty much eliminating large engines
All about paper figures producing more or equal amount of torque in a cheaper way. I stick with naturally aspirated.
Your only option is Genesis, once the ES V6 goes away.
@@barbecuetechtips6024 if I was in the market for a luxury car it definitely wouldn’t be a Genesis.
@@tails300 ®eliable
The newly redesigned ES is really nice car had one for loaner for a few days while my old IS was getting fixed.The AWD is the one to get,its striking car in person,both outside and the inside.I prefer the more driver oriented IS but the ES is fantastic also roomier more luxury oriented.If I could afford both I would have 2 Lexus.
Lexus needs to Keep the 3.5L in the ES. If you want 4cyl economy buy the Camry 4cyl.
V6 is a must minimum engine for a luxury car
@@MeynMotorGroup Mercedes doesn't seem to understand that lately.
I recently retired my 1994 LS 400 (201,000 miles) and bought a 2002 ES 300. One owner, garaged, with 81,000 miles. My unknowing friends thought it was new. It is a wonderful car to drive. All the service records are up to date. I'm 6 foot 4 and do miss the articulating steering column but am really happy with the ES 300 (except for the gas mileage
Simply better advertising - it DESERVES it.. as well as a much bigger market share !
Such a brilliant car !
Getting one soon 😃
I just took delivery of my ES250 Lux Bamboo edition. Its amazing the bamboo trim with the tan interior is fantastic. I love this car. The down side is the small engine I wish it had more power. I'm not into turbo's
I have a 2010 ES and it has been a great car no mechanical problems love it. Have bought since 1998 & the performance makes it very hard to buy any other car.
once A LEUS-ALWAYS A LEXUS !
I have a 2021 Lexus 300H luxury. It’s the best car I’ve ever owned! Drives wonderfully gets over 44 MPG in town and is simply the most comfortable car I’ve ever owned. The quality is over the top. Best Buy got the dollar spent. The only heartburn I had is in 2021 Lexus charged $450.00 for the high in white where as in 2020 it was no charge. Other than that this car is great. Thanks for for review of the auto. Mike Watson
Driving es300h luxury. 47.7 mpg average at ~7500 miles. Just a great car.
Why did you choose the ES300h over the ES350, solely gas mileage, or are there any other meaningful differences?
@Paul fuel economy was definitely high on the list. I drive about 30k/year. At the time Lexus offered 10 year/150k warranty on the hybrid system>that definitely influenced my decision as well.
@@matthewneubeck8411 Thank you. I'm strongly considering the 300h and hope there's still a good hybrid system warranty
thanks, appreciate your honest review, I am contemplating buying the ES hybrid.
“Typical 10 to 15miles less than a Speed limit” So true. 😂😂😂
Every time too 😆
0 to 60 in 3 to 5 business days
Bought an 07 ES350 a few months ago as a “drive into the ground” car, for $5k cash. Am seriously impressed with it. Is pretty loaded (only missing Mark Levinson, panoramic sunroof and radar CC.)
Even with 170k, it’s as smooth as butter, everything works and is tight as a drum.
Even though it’s front wheel drive and not a sport sedan, it will still bang off the rev limiter in manual mode without sifting! Love it 😂!
07 ES is awesome great generation its def a fun little ride enjoy my friend!
For some reason this new es is the first Lexus I don’t mind the full hour glass grill. I have always hated it compared to the bumper over front end. But this, this just looks great! Excited to check one out!
Edit: yep, gimme the 6cyl awd!
Nice ! Just picked one up !
I have driven ES350s as loaners several times. Drivetrain seamless. Smooth, responsive engine, quiet, seats supportive and fairly nimble handling in my opinion. Ride good but just a tad firm w/18" rims for my bad back. To maintain sales: add some more horsepower, keep working on improving looks of ugly grill and maybe a little more room (width?) in the cabin for larger drivers. Getting into the car could be easier but height not likely to be increased.
Solid points!
Couldn’t agree with you more about the folding rear seats ! Same with my 2013 ES350, my only complaint with it.
From what I read behind the rear seat is like an X shaped steel support which sort of makes sense because the car is so solid. If they were to re-design that and open that up maybe the car won’t be as solid ? Love the exterior of the 2020/21 redesign. Definitely more sleeker. Seems like they shortened up the trunk lid compared to my 2013.
Yes there is bracing back there to make it more rigid however that's more for RWD cars, Lexus needs to design their FWD cars differently because even RWD cars like Mercedes C class have folding rear seats
@@MeynMotorGroup absolutely! Plenty of times when i needed more space but couldn’t fold down the rear seats. Makes no sense. Lexus Pretty much thinks of everything else and how they overlooked this is kind of crazy
@@MeynMotorGroup I think that like FWD, this was part of the price of coaxing a luxury experience out of humble family sedan bones. Without a platform engineered for sports-level rigidity at a high cost, I'm guessing they need more band-aids to achieve comparable chassis rigidity.
After having many make and models Audi, Cadillac, even a impala ltz which is a full size sedan. Nothing so far can compare to my 2014 es350 ultra with 150,000 miles. Reliability, comfort, power,style. The rate im going my car will out live me easily....
Def a great car!
I got the es 350 cloudburst grey 2022 I love it ! Traded my 2019 slt premium plus sierra bad transmission issues but great car the sport mode is noticeable aswell burns rubber even front wheel drive is awesome
What other cars would you consider alongside the ES? I’m considering buying one. Should I wait? What do you think of the Acura MDX 2022?
Hi Kevin, you mentioned the double pain glass on the ultra luxury model, does that mean overall lesser refinement on the luxury and the base model? I'm considering the 2022 300h in luxury model as I don't want to stretch beyond that. Will there be a significant difference between my current 2019 camry hybrid and that? Thanks and greetings from London,England.
Luxury model also gets double pane glass that's the model I would pick
The new ES has the same interior space, according to the EPA, as the LS500.
I completely disagree, The ES,is no more than a Glorified Camry, It doesn't deserve to be compared to a GS,yet alone a L.S,FWD and yall compare it to Lexus flagships,Ridiculously Insane.
It's because you haven't tried any of these vehicles for yourself. You make these assumptions based on some spec sheets you read online.
Lot's of GS owners who can't move on tend to trash the ES. So true, you can't just look at spec sheets.
@@doneal1959 what are you driving? If you wanted to make that argument 20 years ago but you're high on bat shit if you think the Camry and es are on same level. Avalon maybe but no way boss
@@MeynMotorGroup Kevin, love the refreshing candor of your replies in this thread. They're every bit as entertaining as the video itself.
Agreed!! I have a 2011 ES350, 83000 miles and it’s still silky smooth, I LOVE the new ones especially the f sports but I can’t trade in my 2011. The car is just too smooth with power. And it’s paid for 😁😁
Oh yea can't trade a 2011 paid for ES with such low miles thats a keeper!
@@MeynMotorGroup absolutely!... quick question have you heard about some consumers complaining about the rear audio speakers in the new ES? If so, has Lexus address that or plans to?
So I heard a few viewers mention it in my ES reviews apparently it only effected the 2019 model years and the 2020s don't have that issue...that's what I heard anyways
@@MeynMotorGroup cool deal, love the channel!
Thank you my friend! Hope you have a blessed 2021
the es is the only sedan i’d buy in then current market
Haha its not the only one for me but its an excellent choice for most
@@MeynMotorGroup Facts
Kirk Kreifels did a video about the ES adopting a more sophisticated AWD system in the future called Direct4. It’ll most likely be powered as plug in hybrid which will give it near perfection ride quality. That, a touch screen, wireless CarPlay, European spec rear seat controls, and interior light options would complete this car.
That would be nice to see
Merry Christmas! I do like the ES!
Merry Christmas my friend!
For one thats looking to purchase an ES, having AWD is a feature I would definitely want but also kinda expect; at least make it an option! I guess time will tell how the ES shines after switching to turbo 4 only.
Gosh I wish that day will never come when it becomes a turbo 4. Being a V6 NA motor really sets it apart
The Lexus ES is a very, very nice car! I was close to buying it instead of my GS. The only reason I didn't buy it because there are more of them on the road instead of the GS.
GS is amazing!
The GS is a much better drivers car too
True, but the 2019 and previous year ES was a quality car with alot of features. Seems like every doctor and lawyer drive those vehicles in my area. Can't go wrong with them.
Own two ES 350’s: a 2019 F-Sport and a 2014. Both excellent vehicles! The 2018’s were mechanically better than the newer ones.
Just picked up a 21 Es. Mannnnn this car is UNDERRATED! I like it better than my Gs. 20 inch staggered wheels make it look like a 4 door Rc350
Kevin, not sure if you’ve already made a video about this but I’d love to hear your thoughts on Acura, how they are currently fairing and what they need to do to get better.
I might do that!
I’m watching this video all over again after my recent purchase of a 2019 ES 350. Nothing beats that quiet smooth effortless accelerating of the 3.5 V6. Even with front wheel drive, the car still purrs and accelerates so smooth. So glad I didn’t think twice of picking this over the 250. I am at peace with my ES. Hope to have it for at least a decade.
Me too, on all counts.
My wife just bought a 2020 Lux model. It might be the nicest car ive ever driven. Hoping/Expecting it to last her at least 10yrs + without any problems...
Massive congrats my friend
As a owner of a 2013 Es 350 Lexus , i will not own any other vehicle . Lexus is the car everyone should at least experience the drive and comfort of the car .my dream for the Es350 is to build a convertible model i feel it would take the Es350 over the top.
Nice car!
The new ES is a really nice car. But still feels a bit low rent in certain area’s of the cabin. Lexus is taking home the bank on badge engineering the Avalon which in it’s own right is a really good car. Like you said, I just wish they would’ve went a bit further and offered the V6 with AWD.
Yea they def use some more plastics not quite an LS interior but man they got really close for the price. There are def little things they can improve but for that 45k new car price i really like it
No heated rear seat option in USA bound ES, avail in Canada however. Not good....heck the Accord Touring has this included
@@jonathanratliff4780 that’s interesting because Toyota Avalon in the USA offers heated rear outboard seats.
@@quaidmciver172 I know
the reason why Lexus didn't do the v6 with the AWD is that it didn't work with the platform so if they wanted to do and, they would need to spend way more time and money to change the platform and more. Maybe next gen they will.
I like this ES a lot. We had one in 2002. Chose the Genesis G80 Sport AWD to the Lexus GS 350 F Sport AWD in 2018. Nevertheless the ES should always be shortlisted.
Good choice man, Genesis is another great brand. I owned a Equus and that was my favorite vehicle out of all the vehicles I owned. I was going to buy a G90 but I decided to go with a Lexus instead.
Genesis is one of the best modern cars G80 and G90 especially with the V8
They need a plug-in hybrid option. I have a 2020, and I wish it had the drive train from the Rav 4 Prime. It would be perfect.
True
what is it with lexus and not having folding seats, thought it were only the IS' models that lacked them
I agree the ES250 is a joke honestly. AWD is needed to satisfy the buyer who says they “need” a winter friendly car. Which is stupid as with a good set of winter tires there is no difference at all between FWD and AWD in everyday driving. I think they’ve really cheapened the car by putting a base Camry engine in it. The 2.5 is an awesome engine, I have one in my 2020 Camry however for Lexus it’s just not appropriate.
Yea just not appropriate for this class, in the camry it is a good engine
@@kingchakazulu7762 well obviously AWD and winter tires is the best combination, however people make it sound like FWD is impossible in the snow which it’s not...
@@kingchakazulu7762 that’s cool. Thanks for letting me know boss!
Lexus sure makes the hell outta rims sometimes. Definitely my type of bling. That’s as far as my like for Lexus goes, though lol
Yea they do have swagger lol
Would win a lot more with an AWD offered in the v6
yup
The car is such a heavy car with blizzacks in snow they are amazing!!
But the awd would be amazing!
I personally think the ES300h Sports Luxury has the best trim, looks and overall feel to the car. No sign of exhaust tips + those 18 inch alloys. Gives it a clean silhouette. The ES is a very nice corporate sedan. Basically you wear a business shirt and tie when you drive one of these.
Well put!
I have a 2007 lexus es 350 with the ultra luxury package with 172k and honestly it drives better than my 2020 Toyota camry xle.
Nice!
Nice bro
Miles or kilometers?
Lexus ages like fine wine
@@cesarcastillo9561 Yupp 😎
The blue looks nice on this car.
Blue with red interior is gorgeous
Great review!
GS makes a comeback?
Sadly, not likely except maybe as an EV.
Spot on 👍
Lexus ES F Sport AWD with a 3.5 L V6 TT Motor and 450 HP, Oh no wait that was just a Dream ( Damn ), thank for the Rev. Kevin.
You can get a used LS 500 with that motor haha
@@MeynMotorGroup Uh the LS is a good car but to big and to heavy and with 412 HP the car put you not out of your shoes, Lexus has a very good built and material quality and I like the Design of the cars but the engines puh not my taste but we must wait in a few years I think Lexus changes a lot in their Powerunits.
I’d sell a kidney to get that setup!
On road i can't immediately distinguish the new ES from the new LS....shots fired on the LS lol, i know it's a fwd platform but i think all luxury cars should be rwd based imo, is the camry that much of a step down from the es anymore?
Yea Camry is a massive step down from the ES both in refinement and interior quality. So Lexus had the rwd GS of course nobody bought it because it was 10k more expensive but as a pure luxury car experience as long as it is comfortable that's all that matters that's why no one spent more for the GS when buying new. A new Lexus buyer wouldn't even care if the car was side wheel drive they don't know better unfortunately
How come ES imfortament is not touch screen enable, the track pad is not so convenient while driving can easily cause an accident... You're doing a great job brother.
2022 ES will have touchscreen!!
Purchasing the ES 350 in a couple of weeks. Not sure if I should step up to the luxury pkg. or stay with the base as it’s more than adequate. We want a powerful, smooth, quiet sedan, no turbo, & there is nothing competing with the ES in my estimation. In terms of quality, reliability, cost of repair, longevity, resale, rear seat room & a V6 I simply cannot find another car that matches up. The only other sedan I’d consider is an Acura & they’re out of the game simply because they lack a V6. We have no interest in an SUV & FWD is fine, we get lots of snow & ice.
I would have been very interested in the IS if it had a bit more rear seat room, however; As it stands now, it’s a little tight.
What did you decide on, and how do you like it?
can you mainly use regular gas on this? Looking to come down from x5
Ever since 2010 the ES has been compatible with regular.
They do recommend premium tho
Happy holidays
Happy Holidays my friend!
I love my 2016 es 350 Black on peanut better luck Luxury package Buttery smooth
Beautiful!
I got a 250 ES and you're right it would be better if the engine was turbo charged but other than the performance it's a very comfy drive and the handling is nice
Turbo = less reliability
I want a new RC F so bad, but I'd have to get a custom upholstery rear seat delete prolly $5 to $10K, $25K or more for an aftermarket hi-end audio system and prolly $10K on wheels. But dude, $50K for a new ES 350 Luxury, those noise dampening wheels for a couple hundred dollars extra look pretty good...then install the $25K or more audio system and I bet I'd be just as happy and have saved the $40K...dam but that RC F...
Hi Kevin and everyone I am looking into buying ES but I’m not sure which one you guys recommend between 350 and 300h what are they main difference between obviously 300h is hybrid thanks everyone
Definitely get the 300h 40 mpg and the smoothness is amazing
@@MeynMotorGroup thank you for your reply!
It would be nice to have a rear wheel drive Es and you’re right they should have used the turbo 4 banger that the IS 200t or NX has ...I drove the hybrid and I didn’t like it I like the regular gasoline motor the Es carry ..the hybrid I don’t know I was disappointed in it ...I think it’s because of the 4 cylinder that they used in it..but once again Kevin great review ..oh ..yes they need to allow the rear seats to fold down that would be a big plus for the Es ..they did it with the 2017 Is I don’t know why they didn’t do it with the ES
Yea the RWD ES was supposed to be the GS unfortunately that didn't last long 😕 hope you have a blessed 2021!
@@MeynMotorGroup sad day when they stop making the GS ..and happy new year to you too ..looking forward for more reviews...keep them coming
Love my 2021 es 350 f sport , was a hard choice between the IS350 . until i sat in the drivers seat .
I agree with you the ES is winning I always wanted one but at the same time I don't think it's quite up there with the LS but it's right behind the LS and that's the reason why I don't think it was any more room for the GS plus the GS wasn't selling.. its like they stepped up the ES so much on purpose that it can slide right up under the LS now ...
Yea that's true they stepped the ES up so high to make the GS disappear on purpose sad
@@MeynMotorGroup I think it's more like they stepped up the ES because they knew the GS was already a dead car walking. You nailed it up above with your other comment that not enough people appreciated driving dynamics.
Imagine an ES wagon. That would be nice. Currently drive a Toyota Avensis sedan and my gf drives an Avensis wagon. We've never had any problems with the cars so thats why we like them.
I miss wagons. For most people, they make more sense than SUVs. Which, IMO, is why you're seeing "crossovers" keep evolving in their direction.
The V6 version would be PERFECT if it had AWD as an Option!
The FWD based Fusion had/has an AWD Option!
Yes it did, but the Lexus's platform didn't leave room underneath for both, alas.
Personal opinions between the 300h vs 350? What about between an upgraded Avalon(h) vs ES350/300h? Avalon's foldable rear seats is big, and in the highest trim, seems comparable to the ES.
Avalon was a fine car overall, just a little less luxurious overall. As you probably know, the Avalon was since discontinued after the '22 model year, but the history of previous Avalons suggests it'll be a fine used car choice for years to come, especially because its owners are usually older, upscale, conservative-style drivers who baby the car.
@tonysterbenc I bought a 2015 ES350 last month for $23k, 25,500. It was a good deal, so I bought it, but I'd prefer to have had newer technology.
My dad bought a 2003 ES300 as a beater car with 150k miles for 1750 and sold it for 2800 a year later 🤣
also I just bought a 2003 Lexus IS300 Sportcross 3 days ago, if you want to review it let me know lol im in VA
Nice lol good flip. And very cool that's the wagon right? Rare car...unfortunately I don't travel much haha 10 miles in a car and my adhd starts acting up 😅
@@MeynMotorGroup yes wagon
FINALLY A GOOD LOOKING ES. MAYBE THAT'S BECAUSE THEY DROPPED THE GS.....
Was thinking of which Lexus to buy
But when I tested the 2019 ES300H then took the ES250 BUT the hybrid is so quiet
Then I didn’t think of other model.
Definitely not the Mer (not the full name) cause the car spent at least 2 months a year for repair.
Yes this car is very very nice to drive.
Best of all the fuel consumption is almost 1/2 the petrol version.
Goes to petrol station 2 x instead of 4 x
And it’s only 40 liter fuel tank.
Cheers
Hybrid is amazing on this car
Did they introduce the touch screen in the new ES?
I think its the same screen as 2019 but with apple carplay and Android auto
im pretty sure theyre refreshing it next year and will most likely move the screen forward and make it touch sensitive as well.
The 2013-15 gs is the best, like I got awd fully 3m wrapped f sport for cheap for 20000usd w 38000ish miles last year, I feel like the luckiest person in the world, I was going to buy an 2012 Alpina b7 w a lil more money, luckily I did not buy it because I heard Alpina b7 cost lots lots of money to fix, while lexus are much easier to source parts.
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What do you think 2018 Lexus LS 500 AWD vs 2023 Lexus ES 350 FWD? If both car same price. The Lexus LS 500 AWD only 30,000 miles, 1 owner with clean carfax. Please help me decide. Thanks all!
I would try to go for a 2023 ES 300h Ultra Luxury as it gets 40 mpg would make more sense for most people as a daily driver instead of a 5 year old flagship that has extremely expensive parts
@@MeynMotorGroup Thank you!!!
This generation ES in the Luxury or Ultra Luxury trim is just perfect. Gonna go test drive one next week just to give it a try.
I’m going to try a 2018 TLX with the V6 and SH-AWD first. Acura tends to depreciate more so used they’re a better value than the ES. But man that ES interior is just on another level.
Btw, love your channel. Keep it up
Yea CPO TLXs are a great deal something to look into for sure. And thanks!
I would advise that you buy a 2016-2018 ES Luxury instead of the TLX. The transmissions have problems. Check the forum.
After many test drives (Audi, Toyota, Lexus, Ford, Honda) I ended up getting a certified TLX A-Spec V6 with SH-AWD. I got a nice deal. The Lexus 6Speed auto transmission is felt a bit behind. I have read about the transmission issues and I’m not too worried. It seems to be mostly solved for 2018+ models and also their warranty is good.
If you told me that this car, as depicted in this video, was an LS, I would have believed you. Absolutely beautiful car!
Yea my friend it’s also far better value I would choose the ES 300h over the LS
What they should probably do to position their cars in general better is invest in developing class leading infotainment and everything else digital, try to be as original and inventive there as in pure car making. And I don't mean the gimmicky stuff, like covering the interior with LEDs or projecting the Lexus logo on people but the basics done right, a rock solid app, locking/unlocking, class leading screen projection, functionalities people actually need and will use. And some they might not need but love, like OTA updates, people love those, it makes them feel better about their product. This is getting more and more important and these days a car can age very quickly just because its digital stuff makes it look so outdated, resolution not high enough, brightness too low, bezels too large.
People want gimmicks many in the comments ask for the gimmicks. They refer to it as "tech" but its really the nigh club lights and other distractions that people want
In Europe only hybrid is availble. Nevertheless there is so much good about the car that I need to check it. I still enjoy driving my GS IV gen with a 2.5 V6.
The hybrid is amazing def worth buying as well
I actually daily ND2 miata nowadays. I would like to get the NXish size car to replace my GS and wife’s CRV, but... the NX is a bit on cheap site... maybe next gen will be nicer. And yes. Definately I am more looking into hybrids having driven RAV4 hybrid and CT200h for a while. I did enjoy the instant throttle response.
This is the perfect car! I just wish they gave the ES350 F-Sport AWD!! They could’ve gave the Hybrid & The 3.5V6 AWD! The did it in the Rav-4 & the IS350 also the RX350🤦🏽♂️
Yea V6 awd is mandatory
The ES350 FRONT GRILL needs to be smaller like the LC500 or a tad bit smaller IMO 🤔. HAPPY HOLIDAYS ✌
Happy holidays to you as well my friend!
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Lexus should've thrown in the rav4 prime powerplant in the es
The es250 is just a instant cash grab in my opinion, could have been far more better with the plug in hybrid
Yea a straight up camry 4 cylinder is unacceptable
@@MeynMotorGroup agreed
Especially when buying a premium luxury brand
@@joskjj3625 agree but Toyota is already having a hard time keeping up with the demand for the RAV4. Hopefully in the next few years they can workout these issues because the Prime power train is perfect.
Lexus need to bring out the es F Sport hybrid to the US market that's the only way I'm buying
ES sits in a lone segment in the luxury market. It's not a direct treat to 5-series or E-Class because of that FWD platform. Plus it's a mid-level management staple. In my 20s or 30s, this would not have been on the radar. Now in my 50's... it's a distant 5th, very distant. Lexus needs to keep pushing it as a stepping stone to the LS and market towards early retirees
That is correct my friend yea Idk what they're going to do for the next gen they may go backwards and only put a 4 cylinder turbo in it we shall see tho but this current one has truly closed the gap with the LS by a lot
@@MeynMotorGroup I never really noticed all of the ES, RX, and Acura MDXs in my neighborhood until your videos... now I can't unsee 'em! 🤣🤣🤣
I've been anti-SUV lately so I'm on the lookout for a wagon to replace the Trackhawk
Yea they sell a truck load of em lol that's why I make sure to cover them since it is a commonly purchased class of vehicle.
Oohh E63s/RS6 Avant time I see lol