I’m not sure I agree that she’s bragging Kotex tells her everything; but I agree is bragging. I feel she’s bragging that she’s a better wife because she’s willing to do anything for Grody sexually and the three OG weren’t. Also agree that’s shes vile because no one should have to force themselves to do anything in the bedroom that they aren’t comfortable with.
It's cause Robyn does stuff they won't. Like oral for an example... Who would want to do that when he was at the other wifes house the night before. Yeah I would draw the line too. You think he would do that too every night to a different woman? Lol yeah we are not made for polygamous relationships.
Also to add that in another commentary about sister wives is that someone pointed out that they all break out in cold sores and showed different clips of the wives and Cody when they had a Cold sore on their lip. Nasty
Sounds like robin doesn’t want to be the only wife because then she has to sexually gratify her husband one hundred percent of the time and the other wife’s get out of bed free. I think robin just ratted on Kody publicly on his “. affections “. Haha. Very clever robin. Outing her husband by blaming the wives. Triangulation at it best.
Yes, there is clip where Kody says he doesnt want to have an intimate relationship with wife3, which means he does not to have sex with her. He is was not rejected.
How dare women deny men unfettered access to their bodies? Like, does she realize she's telling us she let's herself be used regardless of her own feelings and boundaries? And she's indignant like it somehow makes her better than the other wives. I guess we know how she got Kody all to herself. Booty stuff lol
I don’t watch any of the Dugar stuff but I read somewhere that women are to always make themselves joyfully available for their husband’s needs. Seems possible here too.
I don’t know of ANY healthy, long term, happy marriage where the wife withholds sex from her husband. A healthy sex life is an important part of the marriage covenant. Too many women use it as a weapon to control their men.
@@Patriotgranny as a human being I have a right to say no to ANY activity I am not comfortable with. Men with hold sex to punish their wives too. A good relationship involves two people who are BOTH willing, consenting adults. If your partner isn't comfortable with an activity you want, then it doesn't occur. If you love your partner you wouldn't want to put them in an uncomfortable position. Your comment ignores all nuance and basically supports the opinion that men own their wives and wives are obligated to serve them. I find that disgusting.
@@LoloDawnVery well said! In this clip sobyn is 100% talking about sex! He withheld affection from Christine & Meri. But it sounds like he expects more than loving intimacy. Sobyn sounds arrogant & that she is superior. It is abuse. I love hearing from this wife but this time you're right!
It's a common tactic: Oh, you won't do this specific sex act that I want? Then I'm going to withhold all physical affection completely and make like it's your fault because you rejected me so I can be the victim.
@@sabrinagranger5468 ugh and that’s such a narcissistic mindset too!! They’ll withhold affection as a form of “punishment” along with the silent treatment and more.
Yeah what a strange way to talk about a marriage ! so she is trying to get his money exactly!! and he gets what he want also🤮 and none of the other wifes get any money or affection
Don’t forget the 30k in debt Kody paid off for her. Now she’s got a beautiful home, legal claim to his money and child support for her kids and property.
What’s interesting is her level of anger. She sounds resentful that the other ladies aren’t doing their fair share and mad that the ladies may have expectations of still being treated well without putting out. However, Christine kicked Kody out because HE was denying Her an intimate relationship and he and Meri haven’t had anything for 10 years. That leaves Janelle for the “made uncomfortable” “isn’t who they are” comment. Remember Janelle chose letting her dogs sleep in the bed over Kody who said he wasn’t going to sleep over if she did that. He would consider that rejection. And Robyn might be angry with Janelle for “following”Christine out of the family.
I agree with you. Robyn seems resentful that the other wives have "rejected" Kody. She is the one that has to satisfy all the things the other women don't want to do because "it makes them uncomfortable." Whatever those things are probably make Robyn uncomfortable too, but she was raised in a religion and has life experience that taught her that she has to satisfy her mate, 100%. She may feel the other women aren't sharing in that "burden" and maybe resents them for it when the target of that resentment should be Kody for thinking it's ok to coerce women into doing things that make them uncomfortable.
There was already that private "ha-ha" joke between Robyn & Kody when they werr making the cardboard boats and Christine was talking about measurements when she said "69."
Ohh that’s a good point. I forgot about Kodi getting mad about the dogs being in the bed. Maybe janelle just isn’t interested in physical stuff at this point in her life and that’s what Robyn was talking about.
I totally agree. After all, Robyn had a large debt to Victoria's Secret....she seemed much more adventurous than the other wives, and I think Robyn used it to control & manipulate Kody. It really seems to have caused him to spiral downward as a human....he's a worse human under Robyn's influence, I think ❤❤❤
It’s totally sex. The fact she is angry at the others for saying “no I am not comfortable with that .” Tells me that Robyn seems to believe it is her duty instead of a intimate pleasure between two consenting adults is totally abusive .
Funny that Robyn talks about the other women when she wasn't there. Kody did it to Meri and Christine. I don't recall Robyn being there especially when Christine point blank asked him. Instead he went to Robyn's and complained about his stuff being packed up in the garage.
I’m going to keep saying it, these type of relationships only benefit men. End of story. Idk how many times women have said “no I’m so free and happy and loved” and then a few months to a year later they’re talking about their trauma from that relationship. Understand that just because it isn’t monogamous doesn’t mean it’s a better form of living. Also this was in no way to paint a bad picture on men themselves. There’s alot of men that are extremely loving, supportive and caring and they are just as done with this as anyone else is.
Kody is 100% manipulative, controlling and extremely abusive. He probably isn't physically abusive but he is emotionally abusive. Idk how these women stay with him
She is clearly talking about sex. I'm not sure how your wife doesn't hear it. The words are obviously discussing sexual desires, sexual needs, and sexual rejection.
That’s exactly what she’s saying. She’s too modest to say that some other wives don’t want a sexual relationship. I think Christine DID want that and the tables were turned…. Kody did not want “intimacy” with her because her actions turned him off. It’s OK for him to reject a wife, but not OK for them to reject him. 🤔
Exactly See what happens when you are in your late 40’s or early 50 you realize it’s not just an act but more intimacy is needed and Cody can’t give that …… he’s a narcissist He has no relationships with any of his children there’s no compromise it’s his way or nothing
Something kinda funny... Janelle called Koty her best friend and lover while Robyn calls Koty her best customer. Customer is not how I've ever described a man I love.
It was definitely about sex and it was so gross when she proclaimed that a husband is like your best client. She sees it as a transaction. No wonder she is getting more and more miserable with every season.
Yeah, It is. Robyn has crossed the line. She's taking digs on things she should not be privy to. Kodi lays in bed talking about the other wives? Does he discuss Robyn with them? So glad it's down to the two of them. I've never seen a pair that deserves each other more..... Let's see how that works out. Robyn acts apauled and shocked that Kody could be rejected. Lol. Every woman that I know would reject Kookie.
Agree, it is the act of total dominance in the male world. The choice about how they show this is because they want to see a complete submission with their own eyes.
On that subject: I remember an old episode where they did a housetour of all houses with the wives and at Robyns house a bottle of KY lube was left out in the open. KY is known to be used while engaging in anal sex so not to damage the anus and improve the ease of penetration. I think it was a las Vegas episode and I think I remember Christine being upset in seeing this bottle being left out. Explains a LOT
She's 110% talking about sex, and you can feel the anger in her voice. It seems like he has her completely convinced that the other women somehow wronged him by not doing exactly what he wanted. Hopefully she's not being coerced into sex she doesn't want, but I wouldn't be surprised if she had the mindset that she has to do what he wants or else she's being a bad wife and not doing her duty.
You are so right and it's definitely abuse. Robyn is more worried about getting what she wants with Kody that she has lost her humanity and empathy for others. She doesn't even see or want to see what Kody did to the other wives. She blames the other wives for everything.
Robyn was taking shots at Janelle lol. Weight, stretch marks and Janelle HATES PDA that's what she was referring to IMO. Janelle exposed Robyn as 'councilor robyn' and how sick she was of Robyn's bs and Robyn was pissed.
Well this Robin person didn't get a a prize that's for sure. He really is revolting and most women would certainly reject him. He's a scrawny balding nasty tempered little man
Exactly! Janelle has said in past she dislikes PDA. I just posted this. It's not about sex. I guess it is in a way against Janelle, but clearly not against Meri and Christine. They were willing to have sex and do what he wanted. She meant Janelle's aversion to PDA and turning him away in that sense up until recent years.
Sex was probably a tactic she used in her previous marriage which accounts for the VS debt. I guess she figured “I give him what he wants at night so I can get what I want during the day.” It probably worked…until it didn’t. Clearly it worked on Cody but I’m sure HE TOLD HER what the others weren’t doing so she could “deliver” and “find favor”. Hey she did say, “I treat him like my best customer.” Clearly a transactional relationship first above all else. The moment Cody can’t provide the lifestyle Robyn is accustomed to, she’ll be gone and take half of everything…or whatever is left.
@@roselee4445 Agreed. They avoided talking about sex from the very start except to make sure that the audience knew that the wives did not sleep together. Now, sex is one of the main topics and the thing that Cody uses as a weapon. Withholding it as if he’s so damn special, they have to earn his “intimacy” and time.
THANK YOU! I've thought this was what was going on. This also says that Kody TALKS about the other "wives". It's not supposed to be like that. Hahaha. There's a lot of pillow talk going on. Robyn puts out. The other women are in a far better place far away from Mr. Stud Muffin.
If you can ever find the clip when they were building the boats, Cody brought up the number 69 and I had to rewind it and watch Robin ‘s face, she was trying to make quick I contact with Cody to make a joke with him. It was hilarious.
@@pernilladomander7648 On a video by Introvert Queen th-cam.com/video/Q5kSdBdCdik/w-d-xo.html at 25:50 a caller says Robyn had left adult toys on a table. The chat clarifies it was when she had the wives over to see new furniture in season 3. Then another caller says at 30:50 it was a bottle of KY jelly. Evidently the episode is no longer available.
I totally agree with you. I felt she is referring to sex too. The thing is Im not so sure its something perverted or fetished. Im thinking the guy thinks he can neglect and criticize and ignore his wives needs and he can still get busy in the bedroom. We all know neglect is an intimacy killer. Who wants to be intimate with someone who basically treats you like a booty call? Who wants to be married to such a person?
I thought that as well. I was curious what he wanted ?The fact that it is Robyn who is willing to do it really clarifies how she has gained her position as primary wife.
You’re 100% spot on !! He’s taken advantage of her low standards & past abusive history, b/c she’s the ultimate submissive for Kody. I think she’s angry, b/c she believes everything he telling her. She never doubts his POV. She blames the other wives for not being submissive. Kody’s the cult leader, so he thinks about himself & no one else. He was definitely sexually unsatisfied before he met Robyn, too.
I don’t think Kody wants ‘certain’ things-he just wants regular sex from women who emotionally feel disconnected from him and so they won’t have intercourse with him period. Who can blame them? They’re menopausal with diminishing hormonal urges, they feel emotionally distant from Kody, they’re still putting in full time work with their children, their jobs and caring for their homes alone, and they see through Kody’s bull crap and are no longer willing to put up with his narcissism. Good for them.
Reject him affection-wise? It's "uncomfortable“? Christine left Kody because he said they were no longer going to be intimate. So yeah they're down for sex.. but not uncomfortable or it's not what they're into. It's about sex.
I think your perspective is the closest to correct. We'll never know for sure. That's what I was thinking. With women, the emotional intimacy has to come before the physical. Much like when Christine says he won't hold her hand.
Exactly because the other wives aren't fulfilling their "wifely duties" like they're supposed to and she's having to do it all herself like a monogamous marriage. Not just sex, but Cody is a whopper NARC and demands his ego be stroked 24-7 along with giving into all of his needs, living in his grandiose world that totally revolves around him and bow down while heading respect on him because that's what he needs on top of whatever those sex needs are. Keep in mind, he either can't or won't support his family so it's all on you...woohoo, fun! Total gaslighting, but Robyn, you bought into all this!
“He’s has wives reject him affection wise because they’re not comfortable, or they don’t like it. That’s not who they are “ What other kind of “affection“ could she be talking about other than sex? She sure isn’t talking about cuddles and hand holding.
Hi...please make a video about Paedon’s recent TH-cam interview with John Yates and your thoughts esp about what he said about Robin saving a few of the kids lives....my mind is blown...
My husband stopped giving me sex. It was absolutely horrifically painful I tried to stay with him because he said he loved me. But after trying for 5 years to make changes in the relationship, I divorced him. He was toxicly passive.
Wonder if he was complaining to her about them. She didn't appear to have any when we watched her pregnancy. Or maybe just noticed during normal every day things. Either way, she shouldn't say it!
@@angelacarr4354 i was rewatching older episodes and im getting more n more angry at Kody. Im watching season 3. And he was HAPPY with Christine and Jenelle and Meri. He was loving. He was caring. And the women got along great. Now after this season hearing all the bs Kody and Robyn are spewing has me so mad. Christines voicing her fesrs of not feeling as important and like Robyns his favorite. Isnt that Kodys job as her husband to see this and fix it? IF he claims to be the "patriarc" then its HIM who failed. Not the women. No wonder Meri was so vulnerable to be catfished. In season 3 the women went to the gym together n Robyn said Kody likes curvy women more so Im the odd one out here. "They have the advantage over me physically" thats what she said. Wow how things have changed. I wonder now, what was REAL? Was it then? Or is it how they are this season and they are sick of hiding it?
I'm DYING to know what his kink is that Robyn will do but the other ladies wouldn't. 🍿🤪 Also she is now responsible for fulfilling all of his narcissistic need for attention and ego stroking all by herself on top of caring for her gaggle of kids. No wonder she needs a nanny. I do not envy her. 💀
She’s talking about sex (or specific types of sex) and she’s mad that the others don’t do that with Kody because SHE probably doesn’t want to either, yet feels that it’s her job as a wife, and the others not doing specific types of things means she probably had to do it more. But she’s framing her anger as being upset on Kody’s behalf, not her own.
Watching this clip I remember the show "Big Love". There was an episode when the husband ending up and having sex with the younger wife during his allocated time with his other wife because they had a disagreement. The youngest wife didn't know what was going on but she was happy to see him. The problem came when the the younger wife found out that he came to her when he was in a fight with her sister wife. She became extremely upset and checked because he essentially used her to run away from his problem. Robyn's issue is that she does not hold Cody accountable for anything. Robyn does have her crap about her but I do believe Cody uses her as a scapegoat with the other wives which in turn the wives have built up animosity towards her. I wonder how she's going to react when she comes to terms with the fact that he's been setting her up for failure within their plural marriage this whole time.
And when she starts to see all the truths fall into place, and she realizes that he has been lying to her all along, just to garner favor with her. When she starts to see the whole Kody, angry rage filled lazy ass Kody, she may decide she does not want him either. And maybe, just maybe, she will see what kind of an ass he was to the other 3 all along!
When I first heard it, I thought she was talking about Kody wanting something kinky that the other women did not want to provide. She seems to think it's a badge of honor endure Cody's requests.
It's a very common theme for far-right Christian women. I used to be one, though not Mormon. I was taught that women didn't have the right to object... rather, women would offend God if they reject their husband's sexual needs. It is considered a duty. So fuckin warped, I know.
@@CrazyCatLady196I am a member of the mainstream LDS Church and that is not something that we believe or that is taught. Women have control over our own bodies and our husbands are taught to respect that. We believe in upholding and obeying the law and if a man forced himself on his wife that would be considered rape. If anybody is saying anything else then they are warped individuals who are wrong and don’t know a thing. You get a few weirdos in any faith or even people who aren’t religious who believe things that are wrong. Don’t put us all in the same bucket, please!
I’m Catholic, yet I know and so does my husband of 35 years know…it is my body and I have a choice to say yes or no. He respects that. I love him for that and he loves me. I’m very fortunate, yet I know there are alot of married and unmarried couples that have the same respect in their relationships, too. I hope that this world can change for the woman who are brainwashed into believing that their bodies are owned by their husbands. How is that love and how do these women believe that they have a healthy, loving and trusting relationship? Somewhere in their mind they have to know that this is unhealthy, I just can’t imagine you feel happy and healthy in this situation.
Of course she is! Christine & Meri being very much into a physical relationship… he rejected them.. but they probably didn’t treat Kody as “best customer” doing uncomfortable things.
Wrong. It’s Kody who rejects the other wives if they don’t give him the respect that he demands or submit to his will. He hates when the wives exert their independence and he actually tells them it makes them unattractive to him. He is the one who withholds affection.
I don't think she's referring to sex, or not *only* sex, in this instance. Other wives have discussed not being comfortable with physical public displays of affection while it seems Kody is into lots of PDA. For some it's out of respect for the other wives and others it's just something they're personally not comfortable with.
yeah I think Robin was also talking about sex to. but one of the main reasons Christine said she divorced Cody is she said unless she did whatever he said he won't give her any affection not even hand-holding. treating her like a child and her punishment was no affection if she didn't obey
I heard in somewhere . that Ariella didn't have a bed time, and got up late. Robyn gets up late too. I think they have a Nanny because Nanny keeps the children away from the bedroom at Robyn's house. Kody must have the need to exercise his Pencil in the morning. In the customer service area of the bedroom. 🛌✏️.
Oh, she’s FOR SURE talking about sex. Robin says they rejected Cody’s “affections” (even the way she paused and said that word sounded like a euphemism) because the act made them “uncomfortable “ and it “wasn’t them”. That’s not a hug or pda. I’m not big on pdas and my hubs is and that hasn’t yet destroyed our over 20 year marriage and 26 year relationship. Im curious now if it’s something these wives did in the past and always hated it, which they now refused to do when they no longer love or respect him. Or if it’s something new, perhaps which only Robin would do but which has now become something of a deal breaker in that Cody now wants ALL his wives to perform it. It may be an interesting breaking point in this family amongst many breaking points. Robin proves herself to Cody as the ultimate submissive and obedient wife by doing some sex act which the others (or at least Christine and Janelle) will not do. 🤔🫣🫡
@@angelajoleefloria2564 it’s gross but it looks like she has a workaround. She makes up Cody’s mind about things but makes him think it’s all his own idea. I guess she uses the sex to sort of keep him bamboozled. Whatever the “act” is, she has deemed it worth the financial security she gets for herself and kids. Can’t buy Victoria’s Secret and Tory Burch sandals on ethics and principles.
Absolutely toxic and shame on TLC for fostering this toxic lifestyle and allowing these women to get mistreated and children to be treated the way they were for stupid money.
Robyn is talking about Janelle's hatred of PDA. Robyn defied their agreement not to have displays of affection in front of each other that Valentines Day when she wanted to "Kiss" her husband for his gift. She's bringing it up for all of us to reflect upon how rejected (her big issue at the last episode) Kody has been. It would help if Doc had watched from the beginning.
@@peggy67ful Kody and Janelle talked about this together on the show and they said they have come to an agreement on how and when they would show affection Kody said he had no problem with how Janelle was and Janelle said she has tried over the years to show him more affection in public and they were happy with each other. It was the episode were they went camping together. So I don't know why Robin would have a problem with Janelles feelings about PDA when Kody said he didn't have a problem with it. I am just saying how it seemed to me and to me she sounds like she is talking about sex. Also why is it ok for Kody to withhold intimacy from the wives for years but it's not ok for a wife to tell Kody what she is or isn't comfortable with doing. Because Robin said the other wives wouldn't do certain things because it is not the way they are or they don't like it, she didn't say they were withholding affection because they were mad at him she said it was their personal choice. I can't believe that Robin thinks she should have an input on what the other wives feel comfortable doing or not doing when it comes to intimacy
I think she was referring to Jennel, she is not very touchy feely. They both have said, Jennel and Kody that affection and PDA between them is very weird. Christen and Meri wanted all of those things and Kody used or with held intimacy to control them. Jennel on the other hand, is not so much into that it seems. There is a clip where Kody was greeting Jennel with a kiss (Los Vagas) and it was so cringe.
@@aleciaforrester161 I totally agree about the A sexual part. She's also (NOT TO BE MEAN!) pretty obese. She has something called a panniculus and its very uncomfortable to have sex with someone who does.
She's 100% talking about sex.
Exactly 💯
and she's not real happy about it
Absolutely, that’s what she’s talking about.
@@franpag2611 that is so true 👏👏🤣❤️👍🏼
@@franpag2611I agree. She does not seem to want to do those things either. But she will not be his favorite if she starts saying no to him
It’s not just what she says, it’s how she’s saying it. It’s definitely about sex!
I totally agree. His other wives married as virgins. Robyn was previously married and more experienced.
@@cjent05 wasn't Janelle also divorced prior to Kody as well?
She definitely changed her tone in this one on one !!
@@MichelleNelsonSupaMaMa2007 she was married to Meri's brother for a short time
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Wrong. Yes, she's talking about sex, but she's bragging....that Kody tells her everything about his other marriages' intimacy. She's vile.
Robyn likes pencils 😅😅😅
On her knees
Exactly but yet he didn’t want the wives to discuss their lives with him with each other. Jerk will never be a strong enough word to describe him.
I’m not sure I agree that she’s bragging Kotex tells her everything; but I agree is bragging. I feel she’s bragging that she’s a better wife because she’s willing to do anything for Grody sexually and the three OG weren’t. Also agree that’s shes vile because no one should have to force themselves to do anything in the bedroom that they aren’t comfortable with.
Grody always pitted the wives against each other in so many ways. That’s how he got away with so much crap for so long.
That's funny because Christine wanted an intimate relationship with Kody and he refused her
He also turned down Mari
It's cause Robyn does stuff they won't. Like oral for an example... Who would want to do that when he was at the other wifes house the night before. Yeah I would draw the line too. You think he would do that too every night to a different woman? Lol yeah we are not made for polygamous relationships.
Also to add that in another commentary about sister wives is that someone pointed out that they all break out in cold sores and showed different clips of the wives and Cody when they had a Cold sore on their lip. Nasty
@@valenciasanchez93Yeah Robyn came in & spread her herpes to the whole family.
He turned them down because they won't go past white bread sex, I think.
Hey Robyn. That's what Kody told you. His wives have something else to say.
Sounds like robin doesn’t want to be the only wife because then she has to sexually gratify her husband one hundred percent of the time and the other wife’s get out of bed free.
I think robin just ratted on Kody publicly on his “. affections “. Haha.
Very clever robin. Outing her husband by blaming the wives. Triangulation at it best.
@@Bing903it also kinda sounded like there's things he demands in bed that the other women refused to do... Maybe Robyn doesn't want to either...
Yes, there is clip where Kody says he doesnt want to have an intimate relationship with wife3, which means he does not to have sex with her. He is was not rejected.
Poor Robin Kody must want head
Exactly...
Again Kody talking crap about his wives to Robyn, he is such a hypocrite
Have to agree. If this is “love multiplied” as Kody was fond of touting, I want to be far, far, far away! Abuse at its best.
of course she is talking about sex
How dare women deny men unfettered access to their bodies? Like, does she realize she's telling us she let's herself be used regardless of her own feelings and boundaries? And she's indignant like it somehow makes her better than the other wives. I guess we know how she got Kody all to herself. Booty stuff lol
Exactly what I was thinking!
I don’t watch any of the Dugar stuff but I read somewhere that women are to always make themselves joyfully available for their husband’s needs. Seems possible here too.
I don’t know of ANY healthy, long term, happy marriage where the wife withholds sex from her husband. A healthy sex life is an important part of the marriage covenant. Too many women use it as a weapon to control their men.
@@Patriotgranny as a human being I have a right to say no to ANY activity I am not comfortable with. Men with hold sex to punish their wives too. A good relationship involves two people who are BOTH willing, consenting adults. If your partner isn't comfortable with an activity you want, then it doesn't occur. If you love your partner you wouldn't want to put them in an uncomfortable position. Your comment ignores all nuance and basically supports the opinion that men own their wives and wives are obligated to serve them. I find that disgusting.
@@LoloDawnVery well said! In this clip sobyn is 100% talking about sex! He withheld affection from Christine & Meri. But it sounds like he expects more than loving intimacy. Sobyn sounds arrogant & that she is superior. It is abuse. I love hearing from this wife but this time you're right!
That’s my interpretation also and the judgement coming from Robyn is so intense! Like how dare they refuse him!
Christine said that kody wouldn't even hold her hand for years and he won't be intimate with her so It looks like he's rejecting his wives
It's a common tactic: Oh, you won't do this specific sex act that I want? Then I'm going to withhold all physical affection completely and make like it's your fault because you rejected me so I can be the victim.
He’s so gross
@@sabrinagranger5468 ugh and that’s such a narcissistic mindset too!!
They’ll withhold affection as a form of “punishment” along with the silent treatment and more.
Yep yep yep!
Meri too. Remember he told Christine she gets more than Meri.
she's talking about sex. She also said "Kody is my best customer". I don't think normal people would describe intimacy relationship like this...
Yeah what a strange way to talk about a marriage ! so she is trying to get his money exactly!! and he gets what he want also🤮 and none of the other wifes get any money or affection
@@karinandersen8261 they deserve each other, sick people
That comment about Kody being her best customer made their relationship come off as very transactional. It was weird.
@@Kelliebelle44 exactly! Very transactional. Can't imagine a normal wife would describe her husband as "customer".
The customer is always right!
He is a narcissist and a control freak and abusive. I’m glad they left him.
Your wife is precious. Robyn is talking about sex in a really creepy way.
Kody should have learned that sex starts outside of the bedroom. They rejected his TREATMENT of them. Who blames them?
Says the wife living in the million dollar home, who came in with 3 children and no job. Damn straight she’s going to give it to him🤣
She wanted someone to find value in her. she made that her value
She has a nanny taking care of the kids... Plenty of time to get Kody's 🖊 wet...🤮 He is her best customer, according to her...🤮🤮
Don’t forget…she was a Diesel (clothing line early 2000 I believe) model 😂
Don’t forget the 30k in debt Kody paid off for her. Now she’s got a beautiful home, legal claim to his money and child support for her kids and property.
And $40,000.00 in debt
Cody and Robyn deserve each other solely! The other women were blessed to escape that BS!
Either way she has a righteous indignation tone, as if we, the audience will condemn the wives for what she reveals
What’s interesting is her level of anger. She sounds resentful that the other ladies aren’t doing their fair share and mad that the ladies may have expectations of still being treated well without putting out. However, Christine kicked Kody out because HE was denying Her an intimate relationship and he and Meri haven’t had anything for 10 years. That leaves Janelle for the “made uncomfortable” “isn’t who they are” comment. Remember Janelle chose letting her dogs sleep in the bed over Kody who said he wasn’t going to sleep over if she did that. He would consider that rejection. And Robyn might be angry with Janelle for “following”Christine out of the family.
I agree with you. Robyn seems resentful that the other wives have "rejected" Kody. She is the one that has to satisfy all the things the other women don't want to do because "it makes them uncomfortable." Whatever those things are probably make Robyn uncomfortable too, but she was raised in a religion and has life experience that taught her that she has to satisfy her mate, 100%. She may feel the other women aren't sharing in that "burden" and maybe resents them for it when the target of that resentment should be Kody for thinking it's ok to coerce women into doing things that make them uncomfortable.
There was already that private "ha-ha" joke between Robyn & Kody when they werr making the cardboard boats and Christine was talking about measurements when she said "69."
Robyn could be referring to things kody told her that happened 25 years ago.
@@rebeccajones4stories I missed that episode. Do you remember when it was
Ohh that’s a good point. I forgot about Kodi getting mad about the dogs being in the bed. Maybe janelle just isn’t interested in physical stuff at this point in her life and that’s what Robyn was talking about.
Cody looks like a back door buster.
It’s going to be that… totally about that 😂
Always said Rob-in must do anal lol
he's gay
@@abeal49 I wonder that too!
Literally my thought too!!!!!
I totally agree. After all, Robyn had a large debt to Victoria's Secret....she seemed much more adventurous than the other wives, and I think Robyn used it to control & manipulate Kody. It really seems to have caused him to spiral downward as a human....he's a worse human under Robyn's influence, I think ❤❤❤
See what she says in five years when he brings home two more wives .
Yup. Younger too.
They are already in his home
@@Beginnerreadsthebible The Nannie’s?
@@snicksabea I was referring to Robin's daughters
@@Beginnerreadsthebible Whoa?!?
It’s totally sex. The fact she is angry at the others for saying “no I am not comfortable with that .” Tells me that Robyn seems to believe it is her duty instead of a intimate pleasure between two consenting adults is totally abusive .
She's treating Kidney like he's her best customer.
@@lynnebarnes3840 I know that was a rather odd and bizarre thing to say .
@@charisselinnell-morton4137 it's just a glimpse at her mindscape. She's very transactional.
Funny that Robyn talks about the other women when she wasn't there. Kody did it to Meri and Christine. I don't recall Robyn being there especially when Christine point blank asked him. Instead he went to Robyn's and complained about his stuff being packed up in the garage.
She's talking about sex 100%
I’m going to keep saying it, these type of relationships only benefit men. End of story. Idk how many times women have said “no I’m so free and happy and loved” and then a few months to a year later they’re talking about their trauma from that relationship. Understand that just because it isn’t monogamous doesn’t mean it’s a better form of living. Also this was in no way to paint a bad picture on men themselves. There’s alot of men that are extremely loving, supportive and caring and they are just as done with this as anyone else is.
Kody is 100% manipulative, controlling and extremely abusive. He probably isn't physically abusive but he is emotionally abusive. Idk how these women stay with him
No dis to your wife but Robyn IS talking about bedroom requests.
She is clearly talking about sex. I'm not sure how your wife doesn't hear it. The words are obviously discussing sexual desires, sexual needs, and sexual rejection.
That’s exactly what she’s saying. She’s too modest to say that some other wives don’t want a sexual relationship. I think Christine DID want that and the tables were turned…. Kody did not want “intimacy” with her because her actions turned him off. It’s OK for him to reject a wife, but not OK for them to reject him. 🤔
Exactly
See what happens when you are in your late 40’s or early 50 you realize it’s not just an act but more intimacy is needed and Cody can’t give that …… he’s a narcissist
He has no relationships with any of his children there’s no compromise it’s his way or nothing
Definitely have to agree with you, not just sex, but specific sex acts from the sounds. What does the wife think she's talking about?
Looks like Robyn doesn’t want to do them as much as she has to now! Lol
Yes, specific, I'd imagine he's degrading with it, oral, Sodom, etc
That’s exactly the real Robyn!
You are EXACTLY right! He’s a freaking narcissist.
ABSOLUTELY CORRECT!
Something kinda funny... Janelle called Koty her best friend and lover while Robyn calls Koty her best customer.
Customer is not how I've ever described a man I love.
100% about sex....she's obedient
Stockholm Syndrome
She's submitting to getting reamed up the @#$%& and she doesn't seem happy about it.
It was definitely about sex and it was so gross when she proclaimed that a husband is like your best client. She sees it as a transaction. No wonder she is getting more and more miserable with every season.
That's like the ZZ Top song! Tube Snake Boogie! You know... she won't do it, but her Sister will! Lmaooooo 😂😂😂
Yeah, It is. Robyn has crossed the line. She's taking digs on things she should not be privy to. Kodi lays in bed talking about the other wives? Does he discuss Robyn with them? So glad it's down to the two of them. I've never seen a pair that deserves each other more..... Let's see how that works out. Robyn acts apauled and shocked that Kody could be rejected. Lol. Every woman that I know would reject Kookie.
Ugh he is just a douche lol 😂
Right 😂 she acts like he’s such a hot commodity and this dream boat. 😂😂😂 just ewww that’s all I can say. Ew
Not enough alcohol on the planet. I'm not interested in a douchebag who uses more hair products than I do.
She's talking about anal sex, specifically.
He is a narcissist. And anal sex is a power move. It is an act of degradation.
It could also be oral sex. It could be both.
That sounds about right!
I thought either that or oral.
Agree, it is the act of total dominance in the male world. The choice about how they show this is because they want to see a complete submission with their own eyes.
On that subject: I remember an old episode where they did a housetour of all houses with the wives and at Robyns house a bottle of KY lube was left out in the open. KY is known to be used while engaging in anal sex so not to damage the anus and improve the ease of penetration. I think it was a las Vegas episode and I think I remember Christine being upset in seeing this bottle being left out. Explains a LOT
My husband said that from the beginning before she even said this. And after this clip I 100% agree
Roybn is so condescending and ruthless. She is showing her true colors.
She's 110% talking about sex, and you can feel the anger in her voice. It seems like he has her completely convinced that the other women somehow wronged him by not doing exactly what he wanted. Hopefully she's not being coerced into sex she doesn't want, but I wouldn't be surprised if she had the mindset that she has to do what he wants or else she's being a bad wife and not doing her duty.
You are so right and it's definitely abuse. Robyn is more worried about getting what she wants with Kody that she has lost her humanity and empathy for others. She doesn't even see or want to see what Kody did to the other wives. She blames the other wives for everything.
That's the way I understood it.
After all, Kody is her BEST CUSTOMER!!
Funny when he’s openly said he isn’t attracted to at least one of his wives…so I think he’s lying to dear old Robyn 😂
“Keep Sweet” “Pray and Obey” that’s all the live on. It’s disgusting.
I agree. It's about controlling the wives...putting them on notice that there are more cooperative women out there.
Kody is so clearly a narcissist. It’s so obvious that the show is rather painful to watch. :(
She’s absolutely talking about sex. Hence Kody being her “best customer.”
Robyn was taking shots at Janelle lol. Weight, stretch marks and Janelle HATES PDA that's what she was referring to IMO. Janelle exposed Robyn as 'councilor robyn' and how sick she was of Robyn's bs and Robyn was pissed.
Well this Robin person didn't get a a prize that's for sure. He really is revolting and most women would certainly reject him. He's a scrawny balding nasty tempered little man
I agree
Exactly! Janelle has said in past she dislikes PDA. I just posted this. It's not about sex. I guess it is in a way against Janelle, but clearly not against Meri and Christine. They were willing to have sex and do what he wanted. She meant Janelle's aversion to PDA and turning him away in that sense up until recent years.
Christine had 7 children and gained alot of weight, she just had a mommy makeover, she definitely has stretch marks and body imaged
Dont think its pda at all. Its something more… unusual, that i guess robin has to do now cuz nobody else will.
Sex was probably a tactic she used in her previous marriage which accounts for the VS debt. I guess she figured “I give him what he wants at night so I can get what I want during the day.” It probably worked…until it didn’t. Clearly it worked on Cody but I’m sure HE TOLD HER what the others weren’t doing so she could “deliver” and “find favor”. Hey she did say, “I treat him like my best customer.” Clearly a transactional relationship first above all else. The moment Cody can’t provide the lifestyle Robyn is accustomed to, she’ll be gone and take half of everything…or whatever is left.
They aren't supposed to talk about other wives and intimacy, but Jody does to make them feel small. Kodi is a pervert
@@roselee4445 Agreed. They avoided talking about sex from the very start except to make sure that the audience knew that the wives did not sleep together. Now, sex is one of the main topics and the thing that Cody uses as a weapon. Withholding it as if he’s so damn special, they have to earn his “intimacy” and time.
@@thebronzedempress oh yes, I'd withhold from kody
@@roselee4445 😂
@@thebronzedempress🤢🤮
THANK YOU! I've thought this was what was going on. This also says that Kody TALKS about the other "wives". It's not supposed to be like that. Hahaha. There's a lot of pillow talk going on. Robyn puts out.
The other women are in a far better place far away from Mr. Stud Muffin.
If you can ever find the clip when they were building the boats, Cody brought up the number 69 and I had to rewind it and watch Robin ‘s face, she was trying to make quick I contact with Cody to make a joke with him. It was hilarious.
I think that’s exactly what she is talking.about in this clip… she gives him THAT
New phrase, new shirt idea
"What does Robyn do?"
Well Robyn left the bottle of KY on the nightstand when she invited the other wives over to see her new furniture so.....
Hahahahahaha!
@@borountree4539 KY?
@@pernilladomander7648 On a video by Introvert Queen th-cam.com/video/Q5kSdBdCdik/w-d-xo.html at 25:50 a caller says Robyn had left adult toys on a table. The chat clarifies it was when she had the wives over to see new furniture in season 3. Then another caller says at 30:50 it was a bottle of KY jelly. Evidently the episode is no longer available.
@@borountree4539 I remember the episode. My english is just bad so i don't get the word KY. I will google it :) Thanks anyway!
I totally agree with you. I felt she is referring to sex too. The thing is Im not so sure its something perverted or fetished. Im thinking the guy thinks he can neglect and criticize and ignore his wives needs and he can still get busy in the bedroom. We all know neglect is an intimacy killer. Who wants to be intimate with someone who basically treats you like a booty call? Who wants to be married to such a person?
Her demeanor says she doesn’t like “things” with him either and she’s just playing her role to continue getting what she wants 😂
I thought that as well.
I was curious what he wanted ?The fact that it is Robyn who is willing to do it really clarifies how she has gained her position as primary wife.
I agree with u that’s exactly what she was referring to. That’s why she shops at Victoria secret
There you go. That says it all.
She must have knee protectors by now trying to win his favor.
Ouch! Lol...
Well, Kody IS her best customer.
we all know it bjs
🤣🤣
@@rebeccajones4stories I think Kody's a backdoor man.
You’re 100% spot on !! He’s taken advantage of her low standards & past abusive history, b/c she’s the ultimate submissive for Kody. I think she’s angry, b/c she believes everything he telling her. She never doubts his POV. She blames the other wives for not being submissive. Kody’s the cult leader, so he thinks about himself & no one else. He was definitely sexually unsatisfied before he met Robyn, too.
Kody doesn't love Robyn, he uses her as a therapist.
I don’t think Kody wants ‘certain’ things-he just wants regular sex from women who emotionally feel disconnected from him and so they won’t have intercourse with him period. Who can blame them? They’re menopausal with diminishing hormonal urges, they feel emotionally distant from Kody, they’re still putting in full time work with their children, their jobs and caring for their homes alone, and they see through Kody’s bull crap and are no longer willing to put up with his narcissism. Good for them.
Reject him affection-wise? It's "uncomfortable“? Christine left Kody because he said they were no longer going to be intimate. So yeah they're down for sex.. but not uncomfortable or it's not what they're into. It's about sex.
Exactly
That was written so well !!!
I think your perspective is the closest to correct. We'll never know for sure. That's what I was thinking. With women, the emotional intimacy has to come before the physical. Much like when Christine says he won't hold her hand.
If a woman says she won't do something sexual because "it's not who they are". That's some freaky requests that they won't do.
I agree 1000 percent and now she’s left to do it all the time so she’s pissed 😂.
Exactly because the other wives aren't fulfilling their "wifely duties" like they're supposed to and she's having to do it all herself like a monogamous marriage. Not just sex, but Cody is a whopper NARC and demands his ego be stroked 24-7 along with giving into all of his needs, living in his grandiose world that totally revolves around him and bow down while heading respect on him because that's what he needs on top of whatever those sex needs are. Keep in mind, he either can't or won't support his family so it's all on you...woohoo, fun! Total gaslighting, but Robyn, you bought into all this!
Kody and Robyn are disgusting! Bravo to the other 3 wives that no longer have to endure his narcissistic abuse!
“He’s has wives reject him affection wise because they’re not comfortable, or they don’t like it. That’s not who they are “
What other kind of “affection“ could she be talking about other than sex? She sure isn’t talking about cuddles and hand holding.
Hi...please make a video about Paedon’s recent TH-cam interview with John Yates and your thoughts esp about what he said about Robin saving a few of the kids lives....my mind is blown...
I saw that, I was shook! He said Meri was abusive and way beyond verbal. Imagine we'll know one day but those poor kids... ☹️
She also said he was a customer.
My husband stopped giving me sex. It was absolutely horrifically painful I tried to stay with him because he said he loved me. But after trying for 5 years to make changes in the relationship, I divorced him. He was toxicly passive.
Did you go to therapy? Did he see a doctor?
I agree with you and I couldn’t believe she actually said that on tv!
No, unfortunately you got it right. I think she’s talking about sex
"When I came into this family, I knew and I saw when there's stretch marks and there's weight gain" THOSE ARE ROBYNS WORDS!!
Wonder if he was complaining to her about them. She didn't appear to have any when we watched her pregnancy. Or maybe just noticed during normal every day things. Either way, she shouldn't say it!
@@angelacarr4354 i was rewatching older episodes and im getting more n more angry at Kody. Im watching season 3. And he was HAPPY with Christine and Jenelle and Meri. He was loving. He was caring. And the women got along great. Now after this season hearing all the bs Kody and Robyn are spewing has me so mad. Christines voicing her fesrs of not feeling as important and like Robyns his favorite. Isnt that Kodys job as her husband to see this and fix it? IF he claims to be the "patriarc" then its HIM who failed. Not the women. No wonder Meri was so vulnerable to be catfished.
In season 3 the women went to the gym together n Robyn said Kody likes curvy women more so Im the odd one out here. "They have the advantage over me physically" thats what she said. Wow how things have changed. I wonder now, what was REAL? Was it then? Or is it how they are this season and they are sick of hiding it?
Robin can’t really talk as she has put on some pounds herself.
Janelle needs to sue Robyn and Kody for scamming her.
It has already been pointed out by the sociologist, Sobin is the sex wife, the mistress 😂
Totally agree with you, that was my impression when I watched it too.
I'm DYING to know what his kink is that Robyn will do but the other ladies wouldn't. 🍿🤪
Also she is now responsible for fulfilling all of his narcissistic need for attention and ego stroking all by herself on top of caring for her gaggle of kids. No wonder she needs a nanny. I do not envy her. 💀
She's talking about buttsex.
That is 100% what she iOS talking about. No question.
She’s talking about sex (or specific types of sex) and she’s mad that the others don’t do that with Kody because SHE probably doesn’t want to either, yet feels that it’s her job as a wife, and the others not doing specific types of things means she probably had to do it more. But she’s framing her anger as being upset on Kody’s behalf, not her own.
Watching this clip I remember the show "Big Love". There was an episode when the husband ending up and having sex with the younger wife during his allocated time with his other wife because they had a disagreement. The youngest wife didn't know what was going on but she was happy to see him. The problem came when the the younger wife found out that he came to her when he was in a fight with her sister wife. She became extremely upset and checked because he essentially used her to run away from his problem. Robyn's issue is that she does not hold Cody accountable for anything. Robyn does have her crap about her but I do believe Cody uses her as a scapegoat with the other wives which in turn the wives have built up animosity towards her. I wonder how she's going to react when she comes to terms with the fact that he's been setting her up for failure within their plural marriage this whole time.
And when she starts to see all the truths fall into place, and she realizes that he has been lying to her all along, just to garner favor with her. When she starts to see the whole Kody, angry rage filled lazy ass Kody, she may decide she does not want him either. And maybe, just maybe, she will see what kind of an ass he was to the other 3 all along!
When I first heard it, I thought she was talking about Kody wanting something kinky that the other women did not want to provide. She seems to think it's a badge of honor endure Cody's requests.
The way she talked she didn't seem to enjoy it either, that's why I said endure
It's a very common theme for far-right Christian women. I used to be one, though not Mormon. I was taught that women didn't have the right to object... rather, women would offend God if they reject their husband's sexual needs. It is considered a duty. So fuckin warped, I know.
@@CrazyCatLady196I am a member of the mainstream LDS Church and that is not something that we believe or that is taught. Women have control over our own bodies and our husbands are taught to respect that. We believe in upholding and obeying the law and if a man forced himself on his wife that would be considered rape. If anybody is saying anything else then they are warped individuals who are wrong and don’t know a thing. You get a few weirdos in any faith or even people who aren’t religious who believe things that are wrong. Don’t put us all in the same bucket, please!
I’m Catholic, yet I know and so does my husband of 35 years know…it is my body and I have a choice to say yes or no. He respects that. I love him for that and he loves me. I’m very fortunate, yet I know there are alot of married and unmarried couples that have the same respect in their relationships, too. I hope that this world can change for the woman who are brainwashed into believing that their bodies are owned by their husbands. How is that love and how do these women believe that they have a healthy, loving and trusting relationship? Somewhere in their mind they have to know that this is unhealthy, I just can’t imagine you feel happy and healthy in this situation.
@@CrazyCatLady196Wow, just wow!!!
They reject him because he spends almost no time w them and ignore the kids!
You are 1000 % correct I believe.
She also said treat him like your best customer eew what is she ??
Of course she is! Christine & Meri being very much into a physical relationship… he rejected them.. but they probably didn’t treat Kody as “best customer” doing uncomfortable things.
Wrong. It’s Kody who rejects the other wives if they don’t give him the respect that he demands or submit to his will. He hates when the wives exert their independence and he actually tells them it makes them unattractive to him. He is the one who withholds affection.
Exactly!!! Robyn wants him all to herself but then whines that she wants to be in a plural marriage.
Yep I was thinking the exact same thing. I think something has gone haywire in Kody’s brain.
I don't think she's referring to sex, or not *only* sex, in this instance. Other wives have discussed not being comfortable with physical public displays of affection while it seems Kody is into lots of PDA. For some it's out of respect for the other wives and others it's just something they're personally not comfortable with.
I think you are right.
Robyn is a real piece of work imo. She’s either crying or now she’s comfortable enough to start showing her anger and boy is there a lot of it!
yeah I think Robin was also talking about sex to. but one of the main reasons Christine said she divorced Cody is she said unless she did whatever he said he won't give her any affection not even hand-holding. treating her like a child and her punishment was no affection if she didn't obey
I heard in somewhere . that Ariella didn't have a bed time, and got up late. Robyn gets up late too. I think they have a Nanny because Nanny keeps the children away from the bedroom at Robyn's house. Kody must have the need to exercise his Pencil in the morning. In the customer service area of the bedroom. 🛌✏️.
"Wet" his pencil. That's the term for it...apparently. LOL that was such a gross thing to say in reference to his kids!
@@luvzdogz Not to mention of the girls the sons have relationships with. Kody is jealous of his all his sons youth and opportunities .
I have to agree with you.
Robin is talking about Jenelle and the fact that she wouldn’t do public displays of affection
I think they're talkin bout affection in front of any other wife
She's definitely talking about sex. That's exactly what he's doing.
Oh, she’s FOR SURE talking about sex.
Robin says they rejected Cody’s “affections” (even the way she paused and said that word sounded like a euphemism) because the act made them “uncomfortable “ and it “wasn’t them”. That’s not a hug or pda. I’m not big on pdas and my hubs is and that hasn’t yet destroyed our over 20 year marriage and 26 year relationship.
Im curious now if it’s something these wives did in the past and always hated it, which they now refused to do when they no longer love or respect him. Or if it’s something new, perhaps which only Robin would do but which has now become something of a deal breaker in that Cody now wants ALL his wives to perform it.
It may be an interesting breaking point in this family amongst many breaking points. Robin proves herself to Cody as the ultimate submissive and obedient wife by doing some sex act which the others (or at least Christine and Janelle) will not do. 🤔🫣🫡
It's so pathetic that Robyn feels like she's the greatest woman of all because she doesn't have a mind of her own. I call that a Stepford Wife.
@@angelajoleefloria2564 it’s gross but it looks like she has a workaround. She makes up Cody’s mind about things but makes him think it’s all his own idea. I guess she uses the sex to sort of keep him bamboozled. Whatever the “act” is, she has deemed it worth the financial security she gets for herself and kids. Can’t buy Victoria’s Secret and Tory Burch sandals on ethics and principles.
She is far more manipulative than any of them. Sobyn is full of it!
Absolutely toxic and shame on TLC for fostering this toxic lifestyle and allowing these women to get mistreated and children to be treated the way they were for stupid money.
She's definitely talking about sex. What does your wife think she is talking about
Robyn is talking about Janelle's hatred of PDA. Robyn defied their agreement not to have displays of affection in front of each other that Valentines Day when she wanted to "Kiss" her husband for his gift. She's bringing it up for all of us to reflect upon how rejected (her big issue at the last episode) Kody has been. It would help if Doc had watched from the beginning.
@@peggy67ful Kody and Janelle talked about this together on the show and they said they have come to an agreement on how and when they would show affection Kody said he had no problem with how Janelle was and Janelle said she has tried over the years to show him more affection in public and they were happy with each other. It was the episode were they went camping together. So I don't know why Robin would have a problem with Janelles feelings about PDA when Kody said he didn't have a problem with it. I am just saying how it seemed to me and to me she sounds like she is talking about sex. Also why is it ok for Kody to withhold intimacy from the wives for years but it's not ok for a wife to tell Kody what she is or isn't comfortable with doing. Because Robin said the other wives wouldn't do certain things because it is not the way they are or they don't like it, she didn't say they were withholding affection because they were mad at him she said it was their personal choice. I can't believe that Robin thinks she should have an input on what the other wives feel comfortable doing or not doing when it comes to intimacy
I think she was referring to Jennel, she is not very touchy feely. They both have said, Jennel and Kody that affection and PDA between them is very weird. Christen and Meri wanted all of those things and Kody used or with held intimacy to control them.
Jennel on the other hand, is not so much into that it seems. There is a clip where Kody was greeting Jennel with a kiss (Los Vagas) and it was so cringe.
I would assert that Janelle is very likely asexual, so yes I agree with you 💯
@@aleciaforrester161 I totally agree about the A sexual part. She's also (NOT TO BE MEAN!) pretty obese. She has something called a panniculus and its very uncomfortable to have sex with someone who does.
I agree you are correct, that is why Robyn became Kody's favorite.
I believe you're correct. She says "romantic-wise" meaning sex. She won't come out and say "Sex". That's how she says it.