This is why I have never really hated remakes. One of two things will happen. Either it’s good, which is a plus. Or it’s terrible and it makes everyone appreciate the original more. The example I’m going to use is a reboot as oppose to a remake, but still applies. Look at Street Fighter. People hated the Van Damme movie when it came came out, they only started to love it when The Legend of Chun Li came out and was so horrible it made folks look at the Van Damme movie and go “you weren’t so bad by comparison.”
Despite the dismal CGI that was the hand of God or Fate or whatever, that blew up evil Las Vegas, I really liked the original. I liked the acting. The intro to Don't Fear the Reaper was AWESOME, and a personal fave moment was Cory Nemic's delivery of the following line while building a bomb, listening to music "NOBODY turns off Donna Summer !!!!!" While I did not get to see this version, it seems from what Cinema Snob is saying that for one thing it is horribly edited. I remember the original was easy to follow, you knew each person's background, scenes progressed in an order that made sense, stuff happened that tied into other stuff that was happening. This version sounds like a MESS. At least that is how it is described here. Too bad.
@@theinternetjerk9597 I imagine they were trying to ape the 1990 "It" mini-series, where the first part was a sequence of flashbacks interspersed with a framing device that ties it all together. Unfortunately, the editor of The Stand 2020 doesn't know how to do that.
"Are you not aware of how entitled we are as a people? We want it all now! Binge-watching has turned us into a nation of Veruca Salts!" Thank you. I was looking for a new quote to post on my Instagram. 😃
Thank you so much for doing the job that nobody wanted to. I watched the first episode and 'NOPED' out. Thank you for watching for me and countless others
I tried watching a recut that someone did, that fixes the flashbacks. The problem is that the show runners have said in interviews, that they dont think the actual plague is important, so they pretty much skip it. How they were allowed to that I'll never know; such a dumb idea. Anyways, I made it about twenty minutes in the new cut, and was frustrated by how none of the break down of society was shown (best part of the book), and turned it off -- such a wasted opportunity.
The writers of this show made a lot of dumb choices. Hoping HBO will redo this show and get a better director, I think Jon Favreau would be a perfect choice.
The reason they skipped the plague was to save money, that way they wouldn't have to show all the chaos and destruction and cities falling apart. And probably they didn't want to show the US Military being such bastards to the News reporters and civilians.
It's a bit like doing a show about a serial killer and not including the murders. I'm not interested in Ted Bundy's domestic life. I don't have to see the kills like a cheap slasher, but the activities during the killing phases *are* what make the person interesting and his story horrific, so focusing on those parts of his life are critical to the story. Well duh. I can't stand (yep) when pretend intellectuals do this kind of thing to a story. In The Stand's case, I most enjoyed the spectacle of society collapsing under the weight of a magnitude 100 crisis; how people would adapt and survive and how other people wouldn't. The religious stuff for me were secondary at best, but at the very least, the plague is half the fucking book. So yeah. The people who organized this train wreck deserved all the ridicule they got.
I feel like these scenes where arranged by someone who had drank too much coffee. _"Putthishere! Nowthisgoeshere! Didyouseethewalkingdeadlastnight?! Isthataplane?! Manthiscoffee'sgood!"_
I honestly thought that was the laziest thing they could've done with the character. Harold predates the mainstream "killer nerd" trope by decades, and reducing him to an even cheaper modern stereotype really weakened the character. In the book he could be sympathetic at times, and then legitimately spooky when he becomes fixated on Fran and making bombs. The 1994 version wasn't amazing but it was still somewhat nuanced compared to the whiny school shooter in this one.
Alexander Skarsgård actually is a good actor. The sad thing is he's so poorly directed for 90% of the series that he rarely gets an opportunity to bring his A-game to Randall Flagg. Only time will tell if he gets another shot at the role with a better director.
5:27 This is hurting me, just hurting me. The point of starting with Stu and the small town... and Campion, can't forget Campion... is to have the Government swoop in and take them after exposure to Patient Zero. And then all but Stu dies under secure Government lock down. Something something stakes maybe? Suspense? Basic storytelling 101? Maybe I'd enjoy the 2020 Stand more if I hated the book? But no, the first half of the novel is Perfection and the basic rule I learned from Tremors is don't mess with Perfection!
"This is a world where one percent of the population survived in a series where I only like one percent of the scenes". Perfectly sums up my experience with the first episode as well.
It’s a shame, cause the scenes and parts that are good, are actually pretty good. And those good scenes hurt the most because it shows that there was potential there for the entire series to be good.
@MrBenjy1991 If HBO does redo this show here’s who I think they should keep from the CBS version. Keep Marsden, Kinnear, Skarsgard, Teague, and maybe the actress who played Fran. New cast: Larry Underwood - Tom Hardy Mother Abigail - Octavia Spencer Tom Cullen - Vince Vaughn Nick Andros - Tom Holland Lloyd Henried - Robert Downey Jr Trashcan Man - Seth MacFarlane Nadine Cross - Dakota Fanning The Kid - Mathew McConaughey That’s my fancast for an HBO produced adaptation. Let’s hope HBO adapts this soon.
@@drstrangelove307 I also think they should keep the actors who played the minor characters like Jk Simmons, Heather Graham, Natalie Martinez, and the dude who played Teddy Weizak. Let’s just hope HBO will listen to fans of the book and give us an adaptation of The Stand we waited for.
I know I say this every few months, but thank you for watching this crap and reporting back to us so we don't have to watch it and can still sound informed and snobby to our friends.
There was a Children Of The Corn "remake" in like 2009. I really liked it, personally but it's a lot more like the original story than the original movie.
it wouldve been more fun if Children of the Corn was tied in with The Stand, like the survivors go to Nebraska to find Abigail and instead run into those weird kids in Gatlin. And Randall Flagg is revealed as He who Walks behind the Rows. There would be no where to run to. That would've been more exciting, but it's just my mental fanfiction
Also. As I was listening through the audio book version as the episodes came out, I was chocked that there was no episode centered around the dog. Because... If it's one thing I learned from the book. It's to NEVER underestimate the badassery of Kojak!
Character: *signs "nice to meet you"* Me: "Oh, 'nice to meet you'. Is that boy deaf?" Cinema Snob: "Fuck you too!" Me: *snorts with laughter* I don't know why that was so funny, but I enjoyed that joke
I still like the original The Stand because Jamey Sheridan actually bears an eerie resemblance to the lithographer Gustav Doré's depiction of the Florentine poet Dante's Satan.
I can see it but I just love Alexander Skarsgard. IMHO Satan should be attractive, afterall he was god's most beautiful angel? At least that's what I heard. I'm not 100% sure
When I heard about the casting choices for this version, I had already noped out of it. Now, seeing it's 9 hours worth of content that's like someone put Quentin Tarantino in a blender and then spilled it onto the floor like a giant jigsaw puzzle to be put back together by Tom Cullen. Thanks, I'll stick with the book.
I loved the book and the original miniseries. This one on the other hand was just as Snob said hours longer yet removing how the virus got out to public and placing it a few episodes in sucked. The fucked up editing removed any emotional connection.
The original miniseries wasn't good either......People need to stop trying to turn Stephen King's work into movies, it rarely actually works out well, even worse when they feel it needs to be a television miniseries. None of them have been good. Even King admits he's not a good writer and doesn't understand why people like his novels, but atleast they're better than all of the TV miniseries and most of the movies....Hell The Running Man wouldn't have been good if it hadn't had Arnold in it.
'...This series is rich with props that speak.' Truer words were never spoken, man. I love the book and the original miniseries had its problems. But this series... This series was such a missed opportunity. It could have brought in a whole new generation of fans. Instead, it's such a dumpster fire of suck that I couldn't turn away! It actually hurt to watch them botch things so badly and drop the ball so completely. I'll take the 1994 miniseries any day. At least that director knew how to tell a damn story!
A CBS All Access production that sucks at pacing, character development and plot despite having a vastly inflated budget compared to another production of the same title from more than 25 years earlier? Who could have possibly expected that? (Looks awkwardly over at Discovery and Picard.)
I laughed at "Weekly? Don't you know how entitled we all are?" I actually waited to watch until it was over, I just want to binge it over a weekend while I knit. Now that Cinema Snob has blessed us with his review of it, this weekend, it is. :)
2:25 No Blue Oyster Cult? I already hate it. I always loved how the first series started with "Don't Fear the Reaper" because the book started with "Don't Fear the Reaper", like it adapted the book or something. ... fine, the 2020 Stand didn't even start at the start because people have to be spoon fed a 40 year old book from an author no one ever heard of.
Was really hoping this would have outdone the 94 miniseries, but the flashback/flash forward concept doesn't allow the audience to grow and learn about each character in a satisfying way. With the extra time, they could have focused on each characters back story, more scenes with Flagg etc.
Very well done. The editing DID kill this series. It made Harold WAY too important as a character, it never showed how Fran and Stu began a relationship (we just see them together in the ‘present’ of the premiere and then he comforts her one night on their journey and we’re left to deduce ‘I guess it started there.’) Nick and Tom barely mattered at all (and it skipped through Tom healing Stu’s infection with Nick’s ghostly help) and now-Rae Brentner DIDN’T matter at all. It also left out some of my absolute favorite scenes from the book, like when Harold doesn’t believe Stu about what happened at the CDC center in Stovington, VT and he, Frannie, and Glen all go in and see the wreck in there and Glen (who did believe Stu but wanted to see for himself) puts 2 and 2 together and realizes how close the one doctor came to killing Stu, and he actually kicks the corpse in his angriest moment in the whole story. There were some great moments in the 2020 Stand, the performances were almost all excellent and the series looked great. But wow did editing just kill it entirely.
I still haven't seen this version, so I'm sitting through this almost 2 hours video. I'm sure I'm enjoying it more than if I watched it. Excellent review, I'm subscribed now!
The number one theme destroying modern visual story telling is bad scripts. I don’t know if people need to start taking a narrative class or what. But most stuff I see wouldn’t pass a creative writing 101 review - really bumming me out.
@@jamesdanton9033 while I do find forced diversity and sjw messages obnoxious. I don't believe it's as prevalent as the outrage mob on the Right would have you believe. At this point anytime there's a black lead or a female lead, they clutch their pearls and scream about woke messages -- when it's hardly that.
@@jamesdanton9033 I can sort of tolerate the forced diversity. Scripts that don't keep me interested or leave me confused are harder. I'm surprised no one is talking about Floria Sigimondi's adaptation of _The_ _Turning_ _Of_ _The_ _Screw_ . That movie pissed me off the most during 2020.
@@matthewmoran5297 I can't. The oscars are now a joke with the new rules that absolutely mandate forced diversity. It's like blacks and women can't do anything for themselves and need to be shoehorned in...even though they NEVER have had to be. Insanity. I feel sorry for everyone because it helps no one do anything. And plots that feel authentic or that might go against woke orthodoxy? Forget it. Star Trek, Star Wars, Doctor Who, the woke body count of destroyed cultural icons goes on...
@@jamesdanton9033 forced diversity just doesn’t fit certain shows. The constant social justice themes are beyond tired at this point. Whenever I see them pop up now I turn the show off for good
I lie here stoned and ready for bed. I had this urge to grab my phone and comment. I appreciate you! You always make me laugh, and we have similar tastes. Thanks for doing this. Watching your videos has saved me countless hours. I also enjoy watching the videos of stuff I've seen too. Seriously, this last year has been pretty hard. Of course my friends help. But so do healthy diversions. Take care
When I saw the first Episode I honestly thought that’s what they were originally doing since it seemed like the majority of the first one was focused a lot on Harold, then they had Stu’s story intercut in there and I was thinking “huh that’s weird, I guess maybe they had him in here to establish a bit more about the Virus and also since his story is pretty connected to Fran and Harold’s” then the next episodes came out and it just felt like they were jumping between characters at random.
@@ericcartman7361 I think making Rat Man into Rat Woman was just so they could have Fiona Dourif (Brad Dourif's daughter) as a hammy villain. I didn't mind
@@ShadowSonic2 She probably would've been a better Nadine, she could've broken typecasting by playing a character who's seeming normal but a little weird at first and then gone crazy and then catatonic by the end. It definitely would've been a better choice than Amber Heard if nothing else, who will now be seen as a black mark on this already bad adaptation (along with Ezra Miller). They already had to remove her from the publicity cycle leading up to the show's release because of the Johnny Depp drama and that's not looking to shake out in her favor now.
@@escalatingbarbarism5096 she would've been a very interesting Nadine. Or Susan for that matter, Susan was supposed to be a good friend of Frannie and Stu's who died in the bombing. But for some reason they killed her off in this one without any word.
Was going to download this somewhere and binge watch, but now I think I'll pass. Really sad how this turned out. Ah well, I'm happy with the original miniseries. Lieutenant Dan will always be my one true Stu.
Wow, with 9 episodes they could have followed the book verbatim...instead they jump around and cut out back stories. Hell, a big revelation in the book was when Nadine's black & white streaked hair turned all white...now they have her as a blonde. I just don't understand why they made it this way.
5:26 I grew up in Killeen. They misspelled the name. Also there wouldn’t be an army research facility there. It would be at Fort Hood which literally borders Killeen.
I'm curious if someone could do a recut of this jumbled stuff into a better structured series of events, and if that would help this adaptation or not. Lol
Someone did! If you look at the stand subreddit they posted it as “The Dnats”. Their goal was to re-edit it chronologically and a few other edits to help the overall flow. I think they just posted the first six episodes too!
I was thinking the same the same thing, like a Phantom Edit of Episode I of Star Wars. The producers of this miniseries should know The Stand isn’t Lost. This Stephen King novel actually had a beginning, a middle and a conclusion with a point.
It won’t help this adaptation. Too many boring parts and terrible acting by some actors. The only way to do The Stand right is have HBO redo the show with better writing and a better cast.
I hate that they turned the whole first half of the series into the 'sympathetic villain Harold' show. The Stand never needed a sympathetic villain, damnit!
I have a special fondness for the original, in part because ROB LOWE, but mostly because part of it was filmed in and around my hometown. The scene where Nick & Tom meet is just down the street from my house. It was the old red light district, but is now trendy restaurants, cute boutiques and hip bars.
I'll say this much for the update, it's a lot easier to believe a man could be seduced to the dark side by Amber Heard than by Laura SanGiacomo. Although, Heard's being cast as the evil temptress seems a bit on-the-nose, given her real life shenanigans.
Snob, I've got a proposition for your next Patreon poll. The contenders would be 1.Bolero, 2.Bolero, 3.Bolero and - surprise! - 4.Bolero. The contest's gonna be tight!
I decided to watch the other Stand review before this one, and when I came back it was copyright blocked... I'm glad that it came back relatively quickly.
3:40 is that Krychek? 23:30 nowhere _near_ as good as Jaime Sheridan (the 94 Flagg). He owned that part. At this rate, they could have just retitled this series “5 Months Earlier” 48:05 ... there was a New Monkees?! And why am I getting David Lynch vibes? Is it because the guy on the left looks like Eraserhead and the girl on the left looks like Laura Dern? 1:01:43 who knew Rahm Emmanuel was Chinese. 1:40:00 can we add “if you tint _every fucking scene_ “teal and piss yellow”, it makes everything blend together and enhance the boringness”?
M O O N, that spells Cinema Snob.
Well played, good sir.
That does NOT spell cinema snob!
It spells moon! MOOOONNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!
well said, sir
M-O-O-N, that spells "Screw this mini-series' editing and pacing."
Moon that spells coronavirus
This really makes you appreciate the original despite its flaws.
Hoping HBO will redo this show and actually stick to the source material
This is why I have never really hated remakes. One of two things will happen. Either it’s good, which is a plus. Or it’s terrible and it makes everyone appreciate the original more. The example I’m going to use is a reboot as oppose to a remake, but still applies. Look at Street Fighter. People hated the Van Damme movie when it came came out, they only started to love it when The Legend of Chun Li came out and was so horrible it made folks look at the Van Damme movie and go “you weren’t so bad by comparison.”
Amen. 1994 was glorious.
M O O N That spells yeah right 🙄
Despite the dismal CGI that was the hand of God or Fate or whatever, that blew up evil Las Vegas, I really liked the original. I liked the acting. The intro to Don't Fear the Reaper was AWESOME, and a personal fave moment was Cory Nemic's delivery of the following line while building a bomb, listening to music "NOBODY turns off Donna Summer !!!!!" While I did not get to see this version, it seems from what Cinema Snob is saying that for one thing it is horribly edited. I remember the original was easy to follow, you knew each person's background, scenes progressed in an order that made sense, stuff happened that tied into other stuff that was happening. This version sounds like a MESS. At least that is how it is described here. Too bad.
Before I give an opinion, please allow me to flashback to a scene that really doesn't help anyone understand who I am.
The editing is crap!! Removed any emotional or logical connection.
5 days earlier...
@@theinternetjerk9597 I imagine they were trying to ape the 1990 "It" mini-series, where the first part was a sequence of flashbacks interspersed with a framing device that ties it all together. Unfortunately, the editor of The Stand 2020 doesn't know how to do that.
How about instead of flashbacks you start at the beginning. Just saying
@@ryanchurchill5081 yeah in a movie like this it needs to be told in a linear fashion. It makes no sense to jump all over the place
Legend has it that a man in a hospital bed somewhere in Chicago could have solved the plague in the Stand. He allegedly went by the name Sol.
"Fuck Sol!"
Scientists were going to take his blood samples to save humanity, but some chuckleheads shot him out of a cannon.
the world can die,no one will care for Sol
FUCK SOL!!!
Typical Sol. Dying before he fixed the plague.
"Are you not aware of how entitled we are as a people? We want it all now! Binge-watching has turned us into a nation of Veruca Salts!" Thank you. I was looking for a new quote to post on my Instagram. 😃
That threw me off until i read this comment because i thought he meamt the band, not the spoiled child lol
@@garyhall7867 that is not in any way true lol
Bad egg!
@@whiteydiamond oh no, it 100% is. I watched more MTV in the 80s and 90s than kids movies
@@garyhall7867 same. Oh, same.
"Mother Abigail went missing.
And then they found her."
Oh my god this got me laughing so hard, I love the deadpan.
Right! Boy wanders out of a supervised house......finds mother abigail a few minutes later...
It's not New Vegas without the super mutants, death claws, cazadors, and Caesar's legion.
Plus robots everywhere.
@@fuzer909 Especially the sex bots. Fisto is programmed to please.
critical lack of matthew perry, NOT loyd approved!
This whole series, during the opening credits I'm like: "Not Tan! Anything but Tan! "
I would always watch the old series a lot and think "Wow, if they did this again they could really do it better."
Oh well.
Never underestimate the stupidity of our fellow humans.
Unfortunately, doing it better requires executives who give a shit about art.
There's a free 6 hr version on YT, although the picture is decaying because it needs to be digitized.
Yes, and let me know when Elvis gets here!!😝
The 2020 stand is like if they stuck the book in a blender and they tried to put it back together again and made a series out of it
Essentially.
So basically what the Dark Tower movie did with those 7 books?
I find it funny how in interviews Josh Boone says he loves the book. I don’t get how he claims to love the book and makes this crapshow of a series.
@@ericcartman7361 I'm sure he believes it's a great series and very faithful to the book.
@@mariadocarmosobreira8323 Well if he thinks that then he’s wrong 😂
Thank you so much for doing the job that nobody wanted to. I watched the first episode and 'NOPED' out. Thank you for watching for me and countless others
How does the version that's several hours longer then the original feel like the Cliffnotes version!?
"Anyway he's dead now" Thank you Brad for that, I'll say that randomly now to confuse people.
An hour and forty-three min Cinema Snob episode! I'm gonna need a lot more lotion to get through this one.
Looks like its time to oil up 💯
😆 🤣 😂
I don't want to presume anything, but you may be YouTubing wrong, or at least too hard?
Gotta look at this one like tantric sex. Let it last my friend!
In the words of Cinema Snob, what the fuck?
Thank you Snob for doing this series review! You actually put more thought into this review than the whole series did.
I tried watching a recut that someone did, that fixes the flashbacks. The problem is that the show runners have said in interviews, that they dont think the actual plague is important, so they pretty much skip it. How they were allowed to that I'll never know; such a dumb idea. Anyways, I made it about twenty minutes in the new cut, and was frustrated by how none of the break down of society was shown (best part of the book), and turned it off -- such a wasted opportunity.
The writers of this show made a lot of dumb choices. Hoping HBO will redo this show and get a better director, I think Jon Favreau would be a perfect choice.
The reason they skipped the plague was to save money, that way they wouldn't have to show all the chaos and destruction and cities falling apart. And probably they didn't want to show the US Military being such bastards to the News reporters and civilians.
It's a bit like doing a show about a serial killer and not including the murders.
I'm not interested in Ted Bundy's domestic life. I don't have to see the kills like a cheap slasher, but the activities during the killing phases *are* what make the person interesting and his story horrific, so focusing on those parts of his life are critical to the story. Well duh.
I can't stand (yep) when pretend intellectuals do this kind of thing to a story. In The Stand's case, I most enjoyed the spectacle of society collapsing under the weight of a magnitude 100 crisis; how people would adapt and survive and how other people wouldn't. The religious stuff for me were secondary at best, but at the very least, the plague is half the fucking book.
So yeah. The people who organized this train wreck deserved all the ridicule they got.
@@aarondavis8943 Yeah, the best parts of The Stand are first 2/3 if the book. Once they go to battle Flagg in Vegas, it's when it falls apart
@@ericcartman7361 If Favreau is even still active in 2040 or so when the next Stephen King boom hits and they remake this again.
I feel like these scenes where arranged by someone who had drank too much coffee. _"Putthishere! Nowthisgoeshere! Didyouseethewalkingdeadlastnight?! Isthataplane?! Manthiscoffee'sgood!"_
While having spasm
I actually think they did a great job with Harold, that is assuming they were intentionally going for "homicidal incel energy"
That's pretty much how he was written
I honestly thought that was the laziest thing they could've done with the character. Harold predates the mainstream "killer nerd" trope by decades, and reducing him to an even cheaper modern stereotype really weakened the character. In the book he could be sympathetic at times, and then legitimately spooky when he becomes fixated on Fran and making bombs. The 1994 version wasn't amazing but it was still somewhat nuanced compared to the whiny school shooter in this one.
@@escalatingbarbarism5096 He was also only 16 in the book.
That’s honestly pretty similar to how he is in the book
Crispin Glover finally got too old!
The modern screenwriting bad habit of gradually telling a story through endless flashbacks needs to stop. Right now.
Agree. It works well in This is Us and Lost but not in a series like the Stand 😂😂😂
Hoping HBO will adapt this soon and actually tell the story in a linear fashion.
I blame Lost.
But even when Lost writers don't do that (Prometheus, ST Into Darkness, or anything by JJ Abrams for that matter) they still suck.
This comment reminds me of something I saw 5 years ago...
*gazes into the sky*
Thanks for taking the bullet for me on this one. The Stand is one of my all time favorite novels and this is.. well.. not it.
So, what Brad wants...is a Dark Tower series with Alexander Saarsgard as the Dark Man? Cool.
i could live with that
Eyes of the dragon would be a good one
Sounds fun but who gets to be Roland?
They shouldn’t start a Dark Tower series after this adaptation of The Stand
Alexander Skarsgård actually is a good actor. The sad thing is he's so poorly directed for 90% of the series that he rarely gets an opportunity to bring his A-game to Randall Flagg. Only time will tell if he gets another shot at the role with a better director.
"Did you know the Chinese use the same word for 'crisis' as they do for 'opportunity'?"
"Yes, 'crisitunity'!"
TROOOOOOOOOOOOOO STORY!
5:27 This is hurting me, just hurting me. The point of starting with Stu and the small town... and Campion, can't forget Campion... is to have the Government swoop in and take them after exposure to Patient Zero. And then all but Stu dies under secure Government lock down.
Something something stakes maybe? Suspense? Basic storytelling 101?
Maybe I'd enjoy the 2020 Stand more if I hated the book? But no, the first half of the novel is Perfection and the basic rule I learned from Tremors is don't mess with Perfection!
"This is a world where one percent of the population survived in a series where I only like one percent of the scenes".
Perfectly sums up my experience with the first episode as well.
It’s a shame, cause the scenes and parts that are good, are actually pretty good. And those good scenes hurt the most because it shows that there was potential there for the entire series to be good.
Summed up my experience with the entire season
"All that does is make me wish Mike Flanagan had done this series instead."
YES!
I think Paul Thomas Anderson would’ve been a good choice to direct this.
This whole miniseries was the first line of a Radiohead album: After years of waiting, nothing came.
@MrBenjy1991 If HBO does redo this show here’s who I think they should keep from the CBS version. Keep Marsden, Kinnear, Skarsgard, Teague, and maybe the actress who played Fran.
New cast:
Larry Underwood - Tom Hardy
Mother Abigail - Octavia Spencer
Tom Cullen - Vince Vaughn
Nick Andros - Tom Holland
Lloyd Henried - Robert Downey Jr
Trashcan Man - Seth MacFarlane
Nadine Cross - Dakota Fanning
The Kid - Mathew McConaughey
That’s my fancast for an HBO produced adaptation. Let’s hope HBO adapts this soon.
@@ericcartman7361 I agree with your choices on which actors to keep, cause those actors actually did good in their roles as the characters
@@drstrangelove307 I also think they should keep the actors who played the minor characters like Jk Simmons, Heather Graham, Natalie Martinez, and the dude who played Teddy Weizak. Let’s just hope HBO will listen to fans of the book and give us an adaptation of The Stand we waited for.
I'm a reasonable man, get off my case.
I know I already commented here before, but I hope the actress who played Franny gets a better Stephen King adaptation.
I know I say this every few months, but thank you for watching this crap and reporting back to us so we don't have to watch it and can still sound informed and snobby to our friends.
I'm glad I'm not the only one that was confused about the title sequence of each episode of TAN, I mean, STAN, I mean, STAND.
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@@ryans756 huh?
"Accidentally" is probably the only way we're getting Children of the Corn remake
There was a Children Of The Corn "remake" in like 2009. I really liked it, personally but it's a lot more like the original story than the original movie.
it wouldve been more fun if Children of the Corn was tied in with The Stand, like the survivors go to Nebraska to find Abigail and instead run into those weird kids in Gatlin. And Randall Flagg is revealed as He who Walks behind the Rows. There would be no where to run to. That would've been more exciting, but it's just my mental fanfiction
No remake could ever top the original The Stand series.
Although the writing was pretty solid the execution (mostly direction and acting) was super cheesy and ruined it for me.
The Mini Twix joke had a more complete story arc than anything in the whole show.
Also. As I was listening through the audio book version as the episodes came out, I was chocked that there was no episode centered around the dog. Because... If it's one thing I learned from the book. It's to NEVER underestimate the badassery of Kojak!
Character: *signs "nice to meet you"*
Me: "Oh, 'nice to meet you'. Is that boy deaf?"
Cinema Snob: "Fuck you too!"
Me: *snorts with laughter*
I don't know why that was so funny, but I enjoyed that joke
I still like the original The Stand because Jamey Sheridan actually bears an eerie resemblance to the lithographer Gustav Doré's depiction of the Florentine poet Dante's Satan.
I feel smarter just having read this comment
I can see it but I just love Alexander Skarsgard. IMHO Satan should be attractive, afterall he was god's most beautiful angel? At least that's what I heard. I'm not 100% sure
@@KayKay114 His name was Lucifer before the Fall. He was beautiful then. But when he became Satan, he probably didn't look like Alexander Skarsgard.
Sheridan has no resemblance at all to Doré's depiction.
The last episode was actually the best episode of the series. I was the most engaged.
When I heard about the casting choices for this version, I had already noped out of it. Now, seeing it's 9 hours worth of content that's like someone put Quentin Tarantino in a blender and then spilled it onto the floor like a giant jigsaw puzzle to be put back together by Tom Cullen. Thanks, I'll stick with the book.
Watching this while working in the lab seems fitting
I loved the book and the original miniseries. This one on the other hand was just as Snob said hours longer yet removing how the virus got out to public and placing it a few episodes in sucked. The fucked up editing removed any emotional connection.
The original miniseries wasn't good either......People need to stop trying to turn Stephen King's work into movies, it rarely actually works out well, even worse when they feel it needs to be a television miniseries. None of them have been good. Even King admits he's not a good writer and doesn't understand why people like his novels, but atleast they're better than all of the TV miniseries and most of the movies....Hell The Running Man wouldn't have been good if it hadn't had Arnold in it.
@@lutherheggs451 The original miniseries was pretty cheesy but it was better than this shit.
@@lutherheggs451 Gerald's Game, Dolores Claiborne, Kubrick's The Shining, despite King's own opinion.
Hoping HBO will redo The Stand with Jon Favreau as director.
'...This series is rich with props that speak.' Truer words were never spoken, man. I love the book and the original miniseries had its problems. But this series... This series was such a missed opportunity. It could have brought in a whole new generation of fans. Instead, it's such a dumpster fire of suck that I couldn't turn away! It actually hurt to watch them botch things so badly and drop the ball so completely. I'll take the 1994 miniseries any day. At least that director knew how to tell a damn story!
Yay something to pass the time while it snows in texas
And we're back from a copyright claim! Here's to hoping this doesn't get taken down again.
A CBS All Access production that sucks at pacing, character development and plot despite having a vastly inflated budget compared to another production of the same title from more than 25 years earlier? Who could have possibly expected that?
(Looks awkwardly over at Discovery and Picard.)
it's crazy to me how much better Lower Decks is than both of those and it's a friggin' animated comedy.
+Skye Gray
Meh. I kind of like _Picard_ .
@@matthewmoran5297 But I doubt that you like it better than TNG.
@@HylianFox3 It helps that no one was out to hate Picard and Discover from Day One unlike Lower Decks
It’s back baby!
Worth the wait Snob!
I laughed at "Weekly? Don't you know how entitled we all are?" I actually waited to watch until it was over, I just want to binge it over a weekend while I knit. Now that Cinema Snob has blessed us with his review of it, this weekend, it is. :)
Best line in the episode was: “Are you sure that’s what you want?”
I look forward to the Langoliers re-make.
Let’s just hope it doesn’t suck like The Stand.
@@ericcartman7361 Well, the original Langoliers sucked in the first place
Haha should be better than the Maximum Overdrive remake
2:25 No Blue Oyster Cult? I already hate it.
I always loved how the first series started with "Don't Fear the Reaper" because the book started with "Don't Fear the Reaper", like it adapted the book or something.
... fine, the 2020 Stand didn't even start at the start because people have to be spoon fed a 40 year old book from an author no one ever heard of.
They included it in the credits of one of the episodes... I think episode 3 or 4?
It's at the end of one of the episodes for sure.
I hate that Hulu canceled castle Rock but cbs went. Sure let’s shit over the stand. Not like people hated our other original content
Castle Rock was a great show
Finally I get to see it.
Still we didn’t get a scene of everyone buying up toilet paper and a bunch of teens partying while dying
Was really hoping this would have outdone the 94 miniseries, but the flashback/flash forward concept doesn't allow the audience to grow and learn about each character in a satisfying way. With the extra time, they could have focused on each characters back story, more scenes with Flagg etc.
Hope another streaming platform will buy the rights to The Stand because this book is too good to be adapted terribly.
It would be better told chronology and it was bad with introducing characters
Old man turkey neck? Now we finally know what's up with Mitch McConnell!
If only...
Now if it could only be accompanied with the exploding Turkey gravy on the floor of the Senate.
No, his problem is that his upper lip is the same width as his forehead.
Honestly 🥴🤣🦃 LMAOOO
I think McConnell gives a whole new meaning to 'turtle-neck'.
I only have one question.
WHERE THE FUCK IS TRASHCAN MAN!?!?!?
Edit: Wait, THAT's Trashcan Man!? SERIOUSLY!?
Very well done. The editing DID kill this series. It made Harold WAY too important as a character, it never showed how Fran and Stu began a relationship (we just see them together in the ‘present’ of the premiere and then he comforts her one night on their journey and we’re left to deduce ‘I guess it started there.’) Nick and Tom barely mattered at all (and it skipped through Tom healing Stu’s infection with Nick’s ghostly help) and now-Rae Brentner DIDN’T matter at all.
It also left out some of my absolute favorite scenes from the book, like when Harold doesn’t believe Stu about what happened at the CDC center in Stovington, VT and he, Frannie, and Glen all go in and see the wreck in there and Glen (who did believe Stu but wanted to see for himself) puts 2 and 2 together and realizes how close the one doctor came to killing Stu, and he actually kicks the corpse in his angriest moment in the whole story.
There were some great moments in the 2020 Stand, the performances were almost all excellent and the series looked great. But wow did editing just kill it entirely.
They made some of the most baffling creative choices I've ever seen, it's like they were sabotaging the story on purpose
Marsden is good, but he's no mid-90s Sinese.
Alex is a good choice for a 25 years later replacement for Jamey Sheridan.
Ew.
I'll admit the last episode with hopes of Skarsgaard returning and the pros listed, makes me wanna watch it.
@@ericcartman7361hopefully not
I still haven't seen this version, so I'm sitting through this almost 2 hours video. I'm sure I'm enjoying it more than if I watched it. Excellent review, I'm subscribed now!
The number one theme destroying modern visual story telling is bad scripts.
I don’t know if people need to start taking a narrative class or what. But most stuff I see wouldn’t pass a creative writing 101 review - really bumming me out.
That and forced diversity and social justice themes.
@@jamesdanton9033 while I do find forced diversity and sjw messages obnoxious. I don't believe it's as prevalent as the outrage mob on the Right would have you believe. At this point anytime there's a black lead or a female lead, they clutch their pearls and scream about woke messages -- when it's hardly that.
@@jamesdanton9033
I can sort of tolerate the forced diversity. Scripts that don't keep me interested or leave me confused are harder.
I'm surprised no one is talking about Floria Sigimondi's adaptation of _The_ _Turning_ _Of_ _The_ _Screw_ . That movie pissed me off the most during 2020.
@@matthewmoran5297 I can't. The oscars are now a joke with the new rules that absolutely mandate forced diversity. It's like blacks and women can't do anything for themselves and need to be shoehorned in...even though they NEVER have had to be. Insanity. I feel sorry for everyone because it helps no one do anything. And plots that feel authentic or that might go against woke orthodoxy? Forget it. Star Trek, Star Wars, Doctor Who, the woke body count of destroyed cultural icons goes on...
@@jamesdanton9033 forced diversity just doesn’t fit certain shows. The constant social justice themes are beyond tired at this point. Whenever I see them pop up now I turn the show off for good
Cinema snob reviewing a documentary on 2020? Hell yeah!
Watching The snobs reviews are better than watching the movie 😂
If anybody has read the book, this tells you why Larry's mother thought hesounded the way he did on his album
Im surprised they didn't put a line in about Larry sounding white.
That brown sound sure do get around.
(also, wasn't that line in the original mini-series?)
@@CeeJayThe13th It was.
Yeah, really. After all, it's cool to be racist against white people.
@@ericcartman7361 if you ever saw the Watchmen series they did, you know that's not going to happen
I lie here stoned and ready for bed. I had this urge to grab my phone and comment. I appreciate you! You always make me laugh, and we have similar tastes. Thanks for doing this. Watching your videos has saved me countless hours. I also enjoy watching the videos of stuff I've seen too.
Seriously, this last year has been pretty hard. Of course my friends help. But so do healthy diversions. Take care
5:52 ”Did You DAYS Earlier after your MONTHS Earlier!?” Yes, it’s Frank Miller style of Time-Logic! 🤪 ⏰ 👍
Woo-hoo I can finally finish the review!! I wouldn't know the new Stand is bad unless I saw every part, I might pick up at the end.
I enjoyed this miniseries more than Brad did, but I agree with his assessment on the editing. Great review as always, Brad.
I've been waiting for this review since they announced the series. Worth the wait! Looking forward to the Faith Under Fire one, fingers crossed
The guy playing Tom isn’t even attempting to pass for 42 as a man pushing 60
If they wanted to do an experimentally edited , longer version, maybe they should have just followed one person/group at a time.
I thought you meant a real life documentary during the pandemic
When I saw the first Episode I honestly thought that’s what they were originally doing since it seemed like the majority of the first one was focused a lot on Harold, then they had Stu’s story intercut in there and I was thinking “huh that’s weird, I guess maybe they had him in here to establish a bit more about the Virus and also since his story is pretty connected to Fran and Harold’s” then the next episodes came out and it just felt like they were jumping between characters at random.
@@ericcartman7361 I think making Rat Man into Rat Woman was just so they could have Fiona Dourif (Brad Dourif's daughter) as a hammy villain.
I didn't mind
@@ShadowSonic2 She probably would've been a better Nadine, she could've broken typecasting by playing a character who's seeming normal but a little weird at first and then gone crazy and then catatonic by the end.
It definitely would've been a better choice than Amber Heard if nothing else, who will now be seen as a black mark on this already bad adaptation (along with Ezra Miller). They already had to remove her from the publicity cycle leading up to the show's release because of the Johnny Depp drama and that's not looking to shake out in her favor now.
@@escalatingbarbarism5096 she would've been a very interesting Nadine. Or Susan for that matter, Susan was supposed to be a good friend of Frannie and Stu's who died in the bombing. But for some reason they killed her off in this one without any word.
This is a surprise supreme, i will enjoy this very much. Thank you , Mr. Snob.
Was going to download this somewhere and binge watch, but now I think I'll pass. Really sad how this turned out. Ah well, I'm happy with the original miniseries. Lieutenant Dan will always be my one true Stu.
Like Max Headroom is the original Trash Can Man.
“Sorry, she’s just laughing at his bad the Craft reboot is.” Golden material
Great stuff Snob.
Also congratulations Laura and Brad
I feel better for not being the only one thinking "oh, Jesus DJ" in the last episode lol
I found the original the stand DVD set the day I heard that the remake was out
Bought it on Bluray. Looks great, all on one disc and isn't the new one. Thumbs up.
@@jamesdanton9033 lucky bastard but I only paid $5 for it on DVD so I guess we are both lucky bastards
@@emperortrevornorton3119 We both have the physical media in our hands, yes we are lucky.
Oh thank god, I almost watched this series...
Welcome back 🤩
Rey. " No, mother Abigail wouldn't send us off to get murdered".
Spoiler alert!
They get murdered. 😆
Well, Stu survived.
HOORAY it's back!
Wow, with 9 episodes they could have followed the book verbatim...instead they jump around and cut out back stories. Hell, a big revelation in the book was when Nadine's black & white streaked hair turned all white...now they have her as a blonde. I just don't understand why they made it this way.
It’s back!
5:26 I grew up in Killeen. They misspelled the name. Also there wouldn’t be an army research facility there. It would be at Fort Hood which literally borders Killeen.
I am HERE for the subtle snob shade thrown at amber heard throughout the video... yassss
I'm curious if someone could do a recut of this jumbled stuff into a better structured series of events, and if that would help this adaptation or not. Lol
Someone did! If you look at the stand subreddit they posted it as “The Dnats”.
Their goal was to re-edit it chronologically and a few other edits to help the overall flow. I think they just posted the first six episodes too!
I was thinking the same the same thing, like a Phantom Edit of Episode I of Star Wars. The producers of this miniseries should know The Stand isn’t Lost. This Stephen King novel actually had a beginning, a middle and a conclusion with a point.
@@fullfiledprophecies
That's perfect! I've been wanting to give this miniseries a look without having to deal with this crappy editing!
It won’t help this adaptation. Too many boring parts and terrible acting by some actors. The only way to do The Stand right is have HBO redo the show with better writing and a better cast.
@@ericcartman7361 agree, the acting was shaky at times. The casting was meh as well
Thank you for saving me over nine hours.
Two things I like about this series. Flagg and Baby, Can You Dig Your Man.
This is perfect timing while I'm home for President's Day with nothing but crap on TV! Thanks Snob!!
1:40 a joke that aged well in light of the article complaining about Wandavision being too slow
back baby!
New Harold could play a good young Jim Carey
I hate that they turned the whole first half of the series into the 'sympathetic villain Harold' show. The Stand never needed a sympathetic villain, damnit!
I have a special fondness for the original, in part because ROB LOWE, but mostly because part of it was filmed in and around my hometown. The scene where Nick & Tom meet is just down the street from my house. It was the old red light district, but is now trendy restaurants, cute boutiques and hip bars.
Are you in Salt Lake City? (The Vincent drug is also in Halloween 4 and 5)
@@deusexmachina2222 Nope, in Ogden.
I'll say this much for the update, it's a lot easier to believe a man could be seduced to the dark side by Amber Heard than by Laura SanGiacomo. Although, Heard's being cast as the evil temptress seems a bit on-the-nose, given her real life shenanigans.
Hardest working TH-camr, no doubt. That LOST analogy was dead on.
Fiction: Things get crazy out there
America: Hold my beer!
Hell yes! By the way is that a Scott Free/Mr. Miracle profile picture? Good for you.
@@theinternetjerk9597Yeah, I do vids on DC.
They seriously made the new one so confusing and rushed.
Snob, I've got a proposition for your next Patreon poll. The contenders would be 1.Bolero, 2.Bolero, 3.Bolero and - surprise! - 4.Bolero. The contest's gonna be tight!
Nah. I'd vote for number 5. Bolero...
How can you make a poll like that and leave out No.6 - Bolero?
Heathens...
psycho guy looks a whole lot like jim carrey sometimes
I decided to watch the other Stand review before this one, and when I came back it was copyright blocked... I'm glad that it came back relatively quickly.
"In a dumpster, banging corpses." Cheers, Snob - my laptop's now covered in coffee.
3:40 is that Krychek?
23:30 nowhere _near_ as good as Jaime Sheridan (the 94 Flagg). He owned that part.
At this rate, they could have just retitled this series “5 Months Earlier”
48:05 ... there was a New Monkees?! And why am I getting David Lynch vibes? Is it because the guy on the left looks like Eraserhead and the girl on the left looks like Laura Dern?
1:01:43 who knew Rahm Emmanuel was Chinese.
1:40:00 can we add “if you tint _every fucking scene_ “teal and piss yellow”, it makes everything blend together and enhance the boringness”?
Thank you Snob, now I don't have to watch the series myself.
I was about to say the same thing!