They’ve served 35 years in prison and have rehabilitated themselves far more than the vast majority of prisoners ever will. Nobody is excusing what they did, but they have been rehabilitated and are no longer a danger to society.
At their second trial it wasn’t allowed to bring up anything about of the abuse. That’s incorrect what they stated here in this video. It’s very unfair. They aren’t a danger for society and it’s of wasting tax money as long they stay in prison
@MARTIN20-USA if they ever checked I bin abused for years and years in foster care and boarding school they also said there was no evidence while bin treu therapy for olmost 20 years of my life and still I will never forget it ever of my life they said I lied and all those other girls too so never no justice came of it so never say never
@@MARTIN20-USASeriously . All the professionals who treated them and/or watched their testimonies agreed with their extended abuse. They also said that the events of the last week before the murders contributed to their belief that the parents went into the den that night to get guns to kill them because They believed their sons were going to tell everyone what they had been doing to them. Did you even watch the entire 1st trial???!
The JURY absolutely “Did NOT “HEAR ample evidence the second trial for the Menendez brothers was not fair. It was a completely bias judge that did not allow any of the abuse excuse per se to partake in the second trial so that washes away the whole defense attorneys argument “ it was in perfect self-defense. They should’ve gotten manslaughter.NOT LIFE WITHOUT PAROLE It’s so simple and so easy to understand this and why they’re making such a mountain out of a damn molehill is beyond me. It was unfair from a biased judge and a biased prosecutor cause they needed to win after the OJ case!! CASE closed, good Lord, good grief. Plus, there is an ex Menudo band member that was molested by Jose Menendez who’s got his documentary on Peacock, which proves Jose Menendez like raping young boys, including his own two sons. With all the pedophiles and freaks out there today. Why is it so hard to believe that Jose Menendez was a sadistic freak!!🤦🏽♀️
I do feel that these two have served enough time. They should have received 30 years with the possibility of parole, not life in prison due to the extenuating circumstance of sadistic abuse by the father and the failure of the mother to remove the threat to the boys by filing charges and taking full custody. Her failure to act to protect and remove the threat to the Melendez Brothers led to their actions. I'm not saying it excuses the two for murder but feel the young men have served enough time, so yes, I agree the sentence should have been 30 years with the possibility of parole.
They were very limited in the 2nd trial due to the Judge not allowing them to present much evidence at all re the sexual assault allegations so it was pretty unfair! The first trial they were allowed to present a LOT more and that ended in a hung jury.
They didn’t have separate trials or even separate juries in the second trial, but I’m sure this guy, who sounds like he’s barely even started his review knows what’s best. To me, it sounds like he’s setting up reasons to request more delays so he can’t take his sweet ass time doing his job.
One thing about the 2nd trial is that the judge took away the imperfect self defense and manslaughter. Therefore the jury could only consider not guilty or 1st degree murder. I believe if people then understood the intense fear both of them felt that last week that the jury would have voted for manslaughter and not 1st degree murder. Has any of the panel watched the entire 1st trial????
There are mitigating circumstances.Their parents were the ones abusing them since they were children. They had it coming. Besides, This Is a parricide case, the family of the brothers Is the same the family of the victims AND they have a say in this, they have rights as victims as well AND most of their family want them out!!
So if a person who is being human traffic doesn’t feel immediate danger from their abductor and wants to kill them, they shouldn’t get clemency in the future. Because these two men at the time we were boys were in fear of being repeatedly abused, and they wanted it to finally stop and did something about it and yes, maybe what they did was the wrong way to go about it, but it was their own parents.
@@lindagurrera685 THANK YOU! I am so sick of people saying this is because of the Netflix show (which I thought was awful, the Law & Order True Crime series was much better- and out awhile ago.) Besides, the trial is available now to watch to give the ‘Tik Tok’ generation the actual resources.
I think you're right. It was right after the OJ verdict and the judge didn't allow the abuse evidence because he didn't want another OJ. Plus back then a lot of people didn't believe boys could be sexually abused.
If one believes one is in the process of being killed, one is defending oneself. Weinberg removed the option for jurors saying that a "reasonable" person wouldn't have believed they were being killed. Children of those parents will not be beacons of calm and reason and is unreasonable to think they would be.
Ugh, who was that pasty white man smugly insisting the brothers got a gaor shake. Gross!!!! And is he completely stupid? Does he conveniently forget what the jurors admitted after it was all over?? Please pick better commentators.
I believe that the current Judge/Court looks at what the brothers have done since the crime. Apparently, there is evidence that these guys have rehabilitated and are no longer a threat to society. This video doesn't highlight what they have done since the crime.
@@annalewis3356 If they've been rehabilitated and are not a danger to society why tf not??! Keep them in there just for fun and waste taxpayer dollars?? Smh 🤦🏻♀️
@@annalewis3356They should have gotten a lesser sentence to begin with and they deserved parole. With what they have done in prison would have allowed them that parole. And yes maybe there needs to be changes in the whole legal system when it comes to imprisonment.
Yep. I don’t care if they were SA or not. They could’ve left. They didn’t have to gun BOTH the parents down!! And the manner by which they did it. Very brutal. They knew what they were doing… so, they should spend their life in prison. They were amazing liars during trial… people gotta remember. They know how to play people amazingly well. Remember they practiced for it and got off on people believing their testimony and Bs?? Psycho Tik Tok Gen doesn’t understand law and order. They’re emotionally reactive. Gotta ignore the younger folks who fail to understand crime and penalties.
Who do they think the TikTok generation is? I’m on TikTok and I’m older than 2 of the people on this panel. The dismissive assertion TikTok is the ONLY source of information people have is a lazy cop out, in my opinion. They clearly haven’t done their homework and don’t have intelligent counter-arguments, but still want to make a good sound bite. Yes, I’ve seen stuff on TikTok. I’ve also watched substantial portions of the first trial (it’s all on court tv), read books and legal filings, watched documentaries, heard interviews with legal experts, etc. Find better people to interview. These people have nothing of substance to offer. No one is asking to retry the case. Had anyone on the panel done even 10 seconds of research before coming on the show, they would know that.
I am a 72 year old grandma who remembers the media coverage of the trials in the 90’s. I too have done extensive research. They should have been released many years ago. Their families should be heard…
i was 25 years back then. and abuse by parents was NOT something to think about- special NOT with boys/father-.... let them go. let them be free, hopes from Denmark /michael
How was their life threatened when Jose was shot in the back of the head? Kitty was crawling around on the floor while Eric went outside to reload his shotgun??
@galevalenti7759 Has Scott Peterson done his time? he killed his wife and his unborn baby, OH but he says he didn't do it! Scott too wants a new trial .
I don't agree with the fact that they should be released. They were not children when this happened, they could have walked away from their parents. This is called leaving home. They did the unthinkable. Horrible crime.
I think you are fortunate that you don't understand what chronic severe abuse does to children (or adults). Or you are ignorant and have no empathy. Which might mean you've never suffered. Count yourself lucky, but then open a book and read case files of people who have been severely abused. Most kids never tell, many adults never leave. It's so common it's a normal psychological response.
It would appear that people would learn even SO much about human nature (over time) if we gradually tested the waters more and more, in considering giving convicts another chance... as opposed to the set in stone/down the line deemed either "cureable" or "not cureable" from the git go.... And such a progression of continuously developing new "understandings" of those who allegedly committed crimes... would only be one benefit to gain from enabling a path to wisdom.
Merry Christmas the menendez brothers this time next year you be at home with your family having Christmas that my Christmas wish 2024 free the boys free are brothers bring them home 🏠 😢❤😊
Alot of people support them only that are parents themselve that are offended by what they done and totally disregard the abuse the suffered ..those are loser parents like they had
@@MARTIN20-USAsure personally I wouldn't mind there's nothing wrong with them and infact inmates said lyle and erik helped them and they help the elderly in prison too and have not been violent in prison for the time they've been there soooo
#CourtTV - What do YOU think?
FREE THE MENENDEZ BROTHERS 🙏
They’ve served 35 years in prison and have rehabilitated themselves far more than the vast majority of prisoners ever will. Nobody is excusing what they did, but they have been rehabilitated and are no longer a danger to society.
It’s annoying as F they’re still being given a hard time.
@@angelwings7930 take them home
Hopefully they will be home very soon.
At their second trial it wasn’t allowed to bring up anything about of the abuse. That’s incorrect what they stated here in this video. It’s very unfair. They aren’t a danger for society and it’s of wasting tax money as long they stay in prison
@@nicolebancov7492 do you know why? There were no signs of abuse( attested by medical examiners).
@@MARTIN20-USAand all child molesters leave body scars, of course🤦♀️ you have no idea how abusers work, go educate yourself
@@MARTIN20-USAthe abuse was years before.
@MARTIN20-USA if they ever checked I bin abused for years and years in foster care and boarding school they also said there was no evidence while bin treu therapy for olmost 20 years of my life and still I will never forget it ever of my life they said I lied and all those other girls too so never no justice came of it so never say never
@@MARTIN20-USASeriously . All the professionals who treated them and/or watched their testimonies agreed with their extended abuse. They also said that the events of the last week before the murders contributed to their belief that the parents went into the den that night to get guns to kill them because They believed their sons were going to tell everyone what they had been doing to them. Did you even watch the entire 1st trial???!
The JURY absolutely “Did NOT “HEAR ample evidence the second trial for the Menendez brothers was not fair. It was a completely bias judge that did not allow any of the abuse excuse per se to partake in the second trial so that washes away the whole defense attorneys argument “ it was in perfect self-defense. They should’ve gotten manslaughter.NOT LIFE WITHOUT PAROLE It’s so simple and so easy to understand this and why they’re making such a mountain out of a damn molehill is beyond me. It was unfair from a biased judge and a biased prosecutor cause they needed to win after the OJ case!! CASE closed, good Lord, good grief. Plus, there is an ex Menudo band member that was molested by Jose Menendez who’s got his documentary on Peacock, which proves Jose Menendez like raping young boys, including his own two sons. With all the pedophiles and freaks out there today. Why is it so hard to believe that Jose Menendez was a sadistic freak!!🤦🏽♀️
I do feel that these two have served enough time. They should have received 30 years with the possibility of parole, not life in prison due to the extenuating circumstance of sadistic abuse by the father and the failure of the mother to remove the threat to the boys by filing charges and taking full custody.
Her failure to act to protect and remove the threat to the Melendez Brothers led to their actions. I'm not saying it excuses the two for murder but feel the young men have served enough time, so yes, I agree the sentence should have been 30 years with the possibility of parole.
LET THEM OUT ALREADY!!!
They were very limited in the 2nd trial due to the Judge not allowing them to present much evidence at all re the sexual assault allegations so it was pretty unfair! The first trial they were allowed to present a LOT more and that ended in a hung jury.
But Susan smith was NOT abused - hello
They didn’t have separate trials or even separate juries in the second trial, but I’m sure this guy, who sounds like he’s barely even started his review knows what’s best. To me, it sounds like he’s setting up reasons to request more delays so he can’t take his sweet ass time doing his job.
One thing about the 2nd trial is that the judge took away the imperfect self defense and manslaughter. Therefore the jury could only consider not guilty or 1st degree murder. I believe if people then understood the intense fear both of them felt that last week that the jury would have voted for manslaughter and not 1st degree murder. Has any of the panel watched the entire 1st trial????
How can people still mention the "abuse excuse" when the author from this book is a pedo??????? This is unbeliaveble
There are mitigating circumstances.Their parents were the ones abusing them since they were children. They had it coming. Besides, This Is a parricide case, the family of the brothers Is the same the family of the victims AND they have a say in this, they have rights as victims as well AND most of their family want them out!!
They literally said in court MEN CANT BE RAPED WTH
So if a person who is being human traffic doesn’t feel immediate danger from their abductor and wants to kill them, they shouldn’t get clemency in the future. Because these two men at the time we were boys were in fear of being repeatedly abused, and they wanted it to finally stop and did something about it and yes, maybe what they did was the wrong way to go about it, but it was their own parents.
Of course it was treated differently in the 90s - if your being taped by your dad constantly since u were 6 - that’s not immediate danger ?
Who cares about the TikTok gen
If they were female this would be a whole different case .
ohh yes.
no
How so? Susan Smith was properly handled. Parole denied.
@@MARTIN20-USA Not exactly equivalent.
@@MARTIN20-USA Susan Smith didn't murder her abusers in self defense. She murdered innocent children
This is NOT ABOUT TIC TOC OR NETFLIX this is about Roy and the letter btw there parents slaughtered them - think about that
@@lindagurrera685 THANK YOU! I am so sick of people saying this is because of the Netflix show (which I thought was awful, the Law & Order True Crime series was much better- and out awhile ago.) Besides, the trial is available now to watch to give the ‘Tik Tok’ generation the actual resources.
@@SnowDeerlingAfter the 1st episode I quit watching. Once you have watched the real trial anything else is s-t.
I thought the abuse evidence was ruled inadmissible for the last trial where they were convicted. So the jury wouldn’t have heard that evidence.
Exactly!!!
I think you're right. It was right after the OJ verdict and the judge didn't allow the abuse evidence because he didn't want another OJ. Plus back then a lot of people didn't believe boys could be sexually abused.
If one believes one is in the process of being killed, one is defending oneself. Weinberg removed the option for jurors saying that a "reasonable" person wouldn't have believed they were being killed. Children of those parents will not be beacons of calm and reason and is unreasonable to think they would be.
Free the Menéndez Brothers 🎉
Ah but...they tried them together. ???
Their parents should of never had kids. This is not the boys fault.
Ignorant troll
They are not boys boys. Lol but grown ass middle aged men!😅
Drives me crazy how many people don’t realize it’s “should HAVE” not “should OF”.
@@kristinn3367 Relax Professor !
Ugh, who was that pasty white man smugly insisting the brothers got a gaor shake. Gross!!!! And is he completely stupid? Does he conveniently forget what the jurors admitted after it was all over?? Please pick better commentators.
I believe that the current Judge/Court looks at what the brothers have done since the crime. Apparently, there is evidence that these guys have rehabilitated and are no longer a threat to society. This video doesn't highlight what they have done since the crime.
Should we release every model inmate?
@@annalewis3356 If they've been rehabilitated and are not a danger to society why tf not??! Keep them in there just for fun and waste taxpayer dollars?? Smh 🤦🏻♀️
@@annalewis3356When one person is granted parole, does everyone get parole?
@@annalewis3356They should have gotten a lesser sentence to begin with and they deserved parole. With what they have done in prison would have allowed them that parole. And yes maybe there needs to be changes in the whole legal system when it comes to imprisonment.
HEAVILY BIASED. Y'all only interviewed people who are against them! TF. Show all viewpoints.
They left the uncle our the first time around? Talk about bias?
There is no smoking gun ~ the law will prevail ~ nobody is paying attention to the Tik Tok generation except for the Tik Tok generation.
This is RIDICULOUS. .... do NOT irw the case SEPERATELY .... that doesn't even. Make sense
they should be free from more than 20 years
Free the brothers they have done their time stop this absolute nonsense.
Facts: two assassins that just aged.
That's not a fact. That's your obtuse opinion.
Yep. I don’t care if they were SA or not. They could’ve left. They didn’t have to gun BOTH the parents down!! And the manner by which they did it. Very brutal. They knew what they were doing… so, they should spend their life in prison. They were amazing liars during trial… people gotta remember. They know how to play people amazingly well. Remember they practiced for it and got off on people believing their testimony and Bs?? Psycho
Tik Tok Gen doesn’t understand law and order. They’re emotionally reactive. Gotta ignore the younger folks who fail to understand crime and penalties.
@@ang_ro ok, then. Let's pretend "the boys "never slaughtered two other human beings( their father and mother).
@ang_ro Slaughtering people is not ok. Can we agree upon it?
@@MARTIN20-USA no one said its OK and the murder was premeditated but the abuse is true
Who do they think the TikTok generation is? I’m on TikTok and I’m older than 2 of the people on this panel. The dismissive assertion TikTok is the ONLY source of information people have is a lazy cop out, in my opinion. They clearly haven’t done their homework and don’t have intelligent counter-arguments, but still want to make a good sound bite. Yes, I’ve seen stuff on TikTok. I’ve also watched substantial portions of the first trial (it’s all on court tv), read books and legal filings, watched documentaries, heard interviews with legal experts, etc. Find better people to interview. These people have nothing of substance to offer. No one is asking to retry the case. Had anyone on the panel done even 10 seconds of research before coming on the show, they would know that.
I am a 72 year old grandma who remembers the media coverage of the trials in the 90’s. I too have done extensive research. They should have been released many years ago. Their families should be heard…
The parents aren't rehabilitated 😮
Oh, please, they're beyond rehabilitation.
i was 25 years back then. and abuse by parents was NOT something to think about- special NOT with boys/father-.... let them go. let them be free, hopes from Denmark /michael
How was their life threatened when Jose was shot in the back of the head? Kitty was crawling around on the floor while Eric went outside to reload his shotgun??
🎯⚖️
You'd have to be there in so many ways to understand this on any level. I think they have done more than enough time and should be released!
Oh shut up and research the f-ing case.
@@galevalenti7759
Absolutely. It’s not a black and white situation.
@galevalenti7759 Has Scott Peterson done his time? he killed his wife and his unborn baby, OH but he says he didn't do it! Scott too wants a new trial .
I don't agree with the fact that they should be released. They were not children when this happened, they could have walked away from their parents. This is called leaving home. They did the unthinkable. Horrible crime.
I think you are fortunate that you don't understand what chronic severe abuse does to children (or adults). Or you are ignorant and have no empathy. Which might mean you've never suffered. Count yourself lucky, but then open a book and read case files of people who have been severely abused. Most kids never tell, many adults never leave. It's so common it's a normal psychological response.
@@doveandpatchexactly
@@sinead187 if it was true that there was sexual abuse in that house the damage can be absolutely devastating.
True thank you that's a fair view!
Ugh ffs everyone keeps saying they could have ran away like if you were in their shoes how would you feel like get some damn respect
I watched the Netflix movie and their parents didn’t deserve to die. These are spoiled and entitled boys.
Are you serious?
That monsters show was full of lies Ryan Murphy is a sick puppy they were victims
Come off it
Netflix is where I get all of my important news from as well. Great answer👍🏼👍🏼
I saw that movie, i believe one of the boys was sexually abuse! If true sexual abuse can devastate a human being!
AWH BROTHER just free them they went through everything TOGATHER
😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢 DEBEN LIBERARLOS, LYLE Y ERIK MENÉNDEZ YA PAGARON DEMASIADO.....
It would appear that people would learn even SO much about human nature (over time) if we gradually tested the waters more and more, in considering giving convicts another chance... as opposed to the set in stone/down the line deemed either "cureable" or "not cureable" from the git go.... And such a progression of continuously developing new "understandings" of those who allegedly committed crimes... would only be one benefit to gain from enabling a path to wisdom.
Please pick better commentators
Y is he separating them dose he want to free one and keep one ? Okay it safe ?
Let them go
Fantastic decision
O' no now what will they do. The most recent untruth does not cover both of them.
Merry Christmas the menendez brothers this time next year you be at home with your family having Christmas that my Christmas wish 2024 free the boys free are brothers bring them home 🏠 😢❤😊
I hope both brothers are released… praying separation of cases won’t be harder on Lyle 😢
Good luck. You both will be free from next year.
Maybe they rent a room in your house. By next month 🍀 good luck with that.
Alot of people support them only that are parents themselve that are offended by what they done and totally disregard the abuse the suffered ..those are loser parents like they had
OK lol grow tf up!
@@MARTIN20-USAsure personally I wouldn't mind there's nothing wrong with them and infact inmates said lyle and erik helped them and they help the elderly in prison too and have not been violent in prison for the time they've been there soooo
He isn't gonna release them!! 😢
It's not up to the new DA, the judge makes the final decision
Let's hope he doesn't release them.
ffs you're acting like their the next ted bundy
@@belindaransby2357your acting like they are ted bundy
Let em out on parole...
Free them both!!! They have served enough time. 🩷🩷