Exposing Disney's Fake Nature Documentary
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.ย. 2024
- Let's talk about White Wilderness, one of Disney's award-winning nature documentaries from the series "True Life Adventures". There's a specific story in the doc about lemmings. It is entirely fake. In this video, we explain the truth.
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The fact Disney wasn't sued for animal abuse is surprising.
@@river_of_soup420 🤣😂😂😂
It is a wonder Disney hasn't been sued for a myriad of many many things
Disney shouldn’t even be a thing. Disgusting all of it
That's not really possible. You can't just sue because a crime may have been committed if you aren't even involved.
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Man, never thought of Brave Wilderness faking his clips
I’m a big fan of brave wilderness and everything they do. I respect coyote Peterson and understand that sometimes faking things is the way to go, For example if the cameras weren’t rolling for the original catch, then they have to redo it and fake it. At the end of the day it is a franchise, but ive never seen nor heard any rumors of him harming the animals in anyway. I have been watching his channel long before he got big, and he and Mark always seemed to have love and respect for what they do and how they handle wildlife.
Same
Sad:(
Is this sarcasm?
I recommend you watch Jacks world of wildlife instead. Far better and actually shows the truth of the stings and bites.
Here in Brazil there's a guy who had a whole TV show and now is facing accusations of animal cruelty and faking a animal death to a news article. They said he paid some fishermen to kill a river dolphin, but he denied
Who? Was it Richard?
@@fly7045 yeah, today his content is mostly on TH-cam
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Disney becomes a worse company with every detail you learn about them
Im incredibly disappointed about the Brave Wilderness one🙁. I never thought Coyote would cop out like that. I just saw the ending. He does it regularly apparently!!!??? I’m actually sad. I would love to hear more about it though
I am not even mad. Would be insane to put yourself in such dangerous situations
But it has to be like that, so it would be more interesting.
The animals are captured for real. The captures are simply re-enacted to get a better shot.
That said, basically everything in the series IS exaggeration.
Man it's insane to me how just having a celebrity status can make people refuse to accept anything bad about you. Why does everyone just leap to defend this guy? Just because you like his videos? He has a track record of this kind of stuff
@@HuckleberryHimexactly, celebrity worship/idolization is so depressing. People will throw away their personal ideals and thoughts for someone with a status of elevation in their mind
In the scene where they're being pushed into the water from behind, you can see one small lemming to the right of the screen try to turn around and go back the way it came.
Disney also got a bunch of puppies killed during one of the Buddies movies (the snow one). They filmed puppies that were too young in the middle of a parvo epidemic.
Jesus does not approve of this so called Disney.
I would very much like to see more about brave wilderness, the way he presented himself always seemed so similar to those clearly faked survival shows where a lot of the stuff is staged
are you referencing the sting videos? You actually see the animal sting him in those videos. I'm sure there is a level of production involved, when searching for a particular animal, my guess is their resident biologist goes out and finds the animal in advance of the filming team and his search for the animal is either fake, or it's just cleverly edited to make it look a lot faster than it is in reality.
I don't even think his sting reactions are fake, when you read what schmidt rated a level 4 sting, like the bullet ant, i'd scream too.
i mean he does get stinged you can clearly see the wound
Coyote peterson is completely different. He does actually do all the things he does. Hes a part of the pain index team. I cant remember the name of the scale. But hes for real. Dorky but real. They do find the animals in the wild but will hold them for shots. Then after they are done shooting release the animals.
I'm curious to see what else BW is faking.
@@ExarchGaming Actually his sting reactions are fake‼️
Ok, maybe not _fake_ so much as overreacted lol.. but the *The Kings of Pain* got stung/bitten by a lot of the same critters as Coyote P. on their actual TV show and they referenced Coyote's videos for what pain levels they were expecting but most of the time they had *far* less dramatic reactions because they wanted to show people what to *actually* expect.. and since it was a network cable show, they didn't need to sensationalize the pain for clicks 💯🤷🏽♂️
“Swimming away from shore”
What he meant to say was away from the awful people who tossed them into the water and down hills!
I wouldn’t swim back to shore either!
they were probably scared they would be picked up and tossed back into the water for another take. :(
Exactly what I was thinking
What the heck!?! This makes me so mad. Wish they could be prosecuted for animal cruelty but I'm sure the statute of limitations ran long ago. But what I want to know is how did you find this out? That should be Part II.
This has been a story since at least the 80s.
just the tip of what Disney has done...just being honest
Cruelty to animals used to be super common for film. PETA and other groups have made great strides in preventing it.
@@asailijhijrsadly activists taking the name of peta often go overboard with their "activism" imo... and that's coming from me, someone who has been vegan for almost a decade now
Disney also killed many puppies for the film "snow buds"
Sources:
th-cam.com/video/UETalbNYQP0/w-d-xo.html
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_Buddies#Production
Wow just goes to show how shady Disney has always been, this video deserves more views, and would definitely be interested to see a Brave Wilderness video
To be fair....the Disney thing has been known for years now
@@TuberoseKisser fair enough, just didn’t know it went that far back, not surprised at all though
Im not surprised at all that Brave Wilderness is fake lmao
They just always seemed so staged idk what it is about them
Atleast they are not hurting the animals
I dont really have a problem with them faking stuff as long that there not harming the animals
@@bl4k3d0esstuff2 thats a fair point, they could be throwing them off of cliffs but they don’t. I can respect that
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@@bl4k3d0esstuff2 well how would you know? people aren’t exactly transparent about it if they’re exploiting animals for views/money
The lemmings part actually made me cry. Even if I did watch it without knowing they don't commit "unalive" I still be crying.
Sometimes people just don't care about nature and just abuse animals
In Brazil we got a case of a "nature guy" called Richard Rasmussen who used to have various tv shows in difrent channels back in the 2000s. He got accused of keeping an wild rare animal in a cage inside of a hotel, just for him to shoot a scene where he """spots""" the animal in his natural habitat
Lol i need to show this to my dad. He would use this disney clip to teach me to not blindly follow people growing up, saying "dont be a lemming"
similar situation to dodo birds, in the ice age movies it shows them chasing food off a cliff, but the truth has been revealed that humans actually hunted them to extinction.
Did you do it?
@@lillianroself And that other invasive species came onto the place they lived and were also eating the Dodo's eggs and were out competing the Dodo's.
My mom has recited mass suicide info regarding lemmings for decades. She didn't know it was the result of a fake Disney documentary, let alone one called "White Wilderness." I attempted to show her pages from Snopes, Britannica, The Guardian, and other publications disproving the heinous lie. She continues to turn a blind eye and believe the old falsifications.
It was done more cruel than I thought but in today's videos, animals or otherwise are mostly staged and the truth is very rare indeed.
Its not just disney, BBC and natgeo is also doing fake documentaries aswell
th-cam.com/video/G4NwLvlQu24/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/j06RwPEOWgQ/w-d-xo.html
I think you might be missing a word or two.
@@asailijhijr or he can be a foreigner. not every person in the world speaks perfect English; how many languages do you know?
Yeah I've heard this story before. It's upsetting that the people making this documentary thought this was okay. That they thought nature on its own wasn't entertaining enough and thought "Hey, you know what would really sell tickets? _MASS UNALIVING!!"_ Not only that but it would lead to this mass misunderstanding of these creatures for decades to come.
The Poor lemmings...
i'd love to see more about BW and other nature-focused channels faking stuff for content. awesome channel, by the way!
Your channel is a gem!
Your channel is also a gem been binge watching your videos alot
Waiting for a new video but right now I am going to watch the hour long video
Did they assume no one would figure this out at any time?
I mean, it’s not like people tend to question documentaries, they’re meant to be educational after all
I have a year old Guinea pig & these little creatures remind me of her seeing this breaking my heart
Such cruelty breaks my heart 😢
There was a video about African wild dogs eating an antelope alive. In the video you can see the antelope being shot with a dart and it flinches. They cut to a few minutes later where it's drowsy and the dogs are eating it so messed up so terrible!! 😭
🎶 Its the CIRCLE of lifeeee🎶
Animals are still abused just to make a video I seen one with a giraffe and lions I could see that it was tranquilized just the way it was acting
I mean, there are many other unedited videos of African wild dogs eating their prey alive.
Do you know why they do that?
It's not to be cruel. It's because lions, hyenas, leopards, can easily steal their prey. They have to eat fast otherwise not eat at all.
That isn't a lie, even if the video with the darting the prey was.
@@thomasjcorson7502 proof?
Wild dogs are known to eat their prey alive
I swear there's a "making of..." of the lemmings scene and it shows the film crew pushing them over the top.
But some of the "cliffs" they used in the scene were film sets.
The poor turtle. That can't be healthy to get immersed and brought up again so quickly. Even for turtles. I hope he didn't had to redo the shot a dozen times.
What kind of sick psychopath does it take to grab a cute and fluffy little critter and chuck them off a cliff
on the shots of them at the top of the cliff "jumping" they actually used hunting dogs to push them off
Man you can definitely tell someone was pushing them. That’s so effin’ awful. 🤬
Sorry,but wee cannot do anything about this
2:50 - 2:56 Being from Alberta I can confirm that there is no “arctic shore” or any oceans in Alberta, so this was probably filmed in Manitoba where they had the northern coastline
no, it was the Bow River in Alberta
Holy crap, I was literally taught this about lemmings in elementary school 40 years ago!🤦🏼♀️
I remember this exact lemming clip being played in high school. Honestly the only reason I knew lemmings were a thing. Was never able to find it and had no idea what it was from.
probably can't find it again because of all the legal problems surrounding it since the 1980's for animal abuse.
I wish you were my highschool teacher and professor when i was back in school T-T. Big fan of your videos and YES SPILL THE TEA ON BRAVE WILDERNESS
We would love to see more content about brave wilderness
Beef, beef, beef, beef!
There was a big ol' scandal with a bunch of herping channels faking rescues. Some channels would rescue their pet ball python half a dozen times, and tell you to subscribe to "follow their journey/recovery". People figured it out by matching scale patterns.
It's amazing how nature is so fascinating that they actually have to stage and fake scenes. As a Canadian their is no statue of limitations as far as I know so the Disney crew involved should have been charged.
Fascinating what happens in nature that some humans decide to throw some lemmings off the cliff and then claim that the lemmings committed mass suicide.
This reminds me of that scene in penguins movie where the camera crew purposely knocked the babified trio off a Cliff golf style with the guy saying “give them a little shove”
I whould LOVE to see Disney Accountible for this...
I figured because it contradicts basic animal fears: falling
This is just as messed up as the old classic milo and Otis. So many cats died in that movie and the English version tries to minor the blow of cruelty by adding peaceful music while in the original language you can here the cat crying out. And in that one they also pushed a cat off a high cliff into the water cause why not.
Found out the lemming thing from a book a while back, those poor things must of been terrified
That brave wilderness show always bugged me- thank you for enlightening me as to the why!!!!
I would love to see more about BW faking stuff
There's also a whole host of "primitive building" channels that basically stage the constructions too. SunnyV2 made a great video about it and it's so disappointing to see something like wilderness living set up for profit.
I always found myself a little skeptical about blue marlins using their sword snouts to slice wild sardines up to eat them can you tell me if that's true or not
They don't 'slice' so much as 'bash' or 'whip'.
Also it seems like they're trying to stun them, accidentally breaking the tiny bodies up doesn't seem to be the intention.
Which documentary had all of the walruses falling to their deaths at the end and was that provoked as well? It broke my dang heart. 😢
the falling walrus was caused by a polar bear, not intervention or climate change
I think I know which one you're talking about, the walruses that had barely any space and were forced to climb up high rocks to accommodate the population. I don't believe that was faked. The deaths came from an ongoing issue
I think that really happend and wasnt faked
@@KingGoji54 but bbc did lied about it
@@Orcinus-s4z really? Hmm
What Disney did was despicable, but I am pretty sure the idea of lemmings throwing themselves off cliffs is much older than Disney. I think there is a reference to it in Alice in Wonderland (the book not the staged versions).
Please do a in depth video on Brave Wilderness! They are such clowns but their reach is huge!
They aint harming the animals anyways
@@bl4k3d0esstuff2 please tell me if brave have a scandal or something.
@@akromimubarok6626 the only one I know of is they invited President Biden and Fauci onto their show. Their comment section was pretty damn incensed cause shock of all shocks, that's nit what a nature show is supposed to be about.
Well, that and faking videos. I wonder what else there is...I want the tea spilled all over the house, please!
This reminded me of Milo and Otis. It's an older movie featuring a pug and a kitten away from home navigating the world, with voice-over narrating their thoughts and "dialogue." Except they pretty much just put domestic animals in risky situations and filmed, adding cutesy music and VO in post. They send the kitten floating in a basket down a stream, put the pug on a beach with a black bear... I could go on. It wasn't presented as fact like these fake documentaries, but it's chilling watching it as an adult because the abuse and exploitation of the animals is so apparent.
One of wild things about watching this and hearing this was filmed in Alberta is that Alberta is a land locked province so even if lemmings WERE naturally found here, there is no arctic ocean. Landlocked. There is no ocean in Alberta. This whole thing is so bizarre.
the fake "sea" is actually the Bow River in Alberta.
I would love to hear about Brave Wilderness ! I have been their fan so I would to know how many thing that they lied to me! 😢
They're probably staging animal encounters here and there. I'd be very surprised if they lied about animal behavior and harmed them like disney did
@@filthyneutral5801 yeah. I think they only stage catching some thinks for kids occasionally. Because people want to see them catch stuff. You can't film yourself catching something if you already caught it off camera, so they gotta make up for it.
I actually watched this very cool documentary about insects and they actually show in the documentary how they stage the different shots. Wish more documentaries did that as well... (if you want to know they just make a open terrarium thing and place beetles and flys in there).
plot twist: brave wilderness catched the turtle before but forgot to film it
Honestly I don't care if some shots are fake (as long as the qnimals are not harmed). For example in the brave wilderness video, faking the capture of a turtle is not a big deal, if the turtle is not harmed and then released, it's not really a problem
Agreed
Yeah I agree. To add onto that though: as long as it also doesn't spread misinformation that could end up harming the animal ie general species as a whole. Like for example how goldfish and other pet fish were and still are shown in many forms of media that they only need very minimal space (eg. Fishbowls and other small spaces) when that isn't the case at all.
???
@@kylahkropp7250 what?
Beef with brave wilderness?
I also need this brave wilderness beef because i cannot stand them. Their channel is detrimental to conservation.
how
Im confused on how there detrimental to conservation?!
@@bl4k3d0esstuff2 go out catching animals is really stressful for them
@@emensonkennede1431 steve Irwin did it wild frank does it, its not really a problem if you dont harm the animals and treat them carefully, when i lived in Florida i would usually grab iguanas to show them to my friends and release them later.
@@Jason_H_Martitinez wait how do you catch those fast reptiles
I'd like to hear more about the wilderness beef too. Wt🤬 was that 🐢 doing in his hand? 😂
What about the wildlife documentaries by Discovery and Animal planet?
those are mostly fake too, including bbc, natgeo and youtube nature docs
I watch Clint's reptiles and he debunked Brave Wilderness' bullet and bite video. If you do a brave wilderness video, it would be worth including.
second comment: didn't know Brave Wilderness faked his vids. That one especially hurts cause I liked him when i was younger and even met him at a live event. Fuck that business.
He fakes some catches because its difficult to always film and catch and get the right shot the first time, but from what Ive seen he doesnt disrespect the animals or harm them in any way, and has never done so.
@@AerisRising thanks for the response. I still dont like dishonesty, especially when its about something so serious/educational. I love one man channels on TH-cam like Lifeinjars, Budget Museum, and Natural World Facts, because they're much more trust worthy than something the equivalent to a television show (Check them out I highly recommend)
@@scourge2668 even bbc, natgeo and other documentaries are fake
@@Orcinus-s4z I know, I've been turned off to those ever since i realised how fake the sound effects are.
@@scourge2668 and adding storytelling and faking scenes aswell
Hello, my absolute favorite is Corbin Maxey right now. He doesn't have fake docus and all. I just want to know your thoughts about his reptiles and all his animals at his farm. :) Great video btw. Thanks for saving lemmings' reputations.
I rarely comment on TH-cam vids. But I’m ready to watch more of your content in the future!! I’d love to know the truth on nature docs!
Notice how the ones on the very edge didn’t fall off because the producer didn’t want to show his hand
If this was intended by Disney then this is considered as Animal Cruelty. So sad 😢
Would like to hear more about the brave wilderness beef... still though that turtle clip doesn't really surprise or bother me since they probably did catch it (probably with a net) but just didn't get the footage so they recreated it which is understandable, hey at least they didn't tie the turtle underwater and simple did a bad sleight of hand.
I would love to hear more about this beef. I've never really been a fan of brave wilderness myself
I was always under the presumption that most nature documentaries or general videos have some staged quality to it. Some of the shots they get would be unrealistic to achieve naturally. So seeing brave wilderness doesn't surprise me and I'm not necessarily disappointed by it, as long as no one or animals get hurt and the presentation is educational
Omg thank you for making this! I always thought some nature documentaries and other nature related videos felt kinda faked? But never saw proof of this till now! Thank you!
I'm so pissed at those people who made those poor lemmings tumble off the cliffs and drown in the cold water! Like thats so messed up dude! 😠🤬
Im glad there's more rules for animals safety in the filming industry now then back then. But I'm sure theres still a lot of this kind of sh*t being done nowadays anyways.. 😩
3:50 You can literally see the little dudes digging their paws into the ground trying not to go over! That’s what my dog looks like when I try to scoot her out the back door to go potty in the rain! They absolutely did not jump… they’re clearly being pushed… lol wtf?!
Who actually believed this when they saw it?
How would a species that commits mass voluntary ghosting ever actually survive long enough to reproduce?! They’d be extinct in less than a generation or two if massive herds were making rapid spiritual transitions on the regular!
Also, same goes for it they’re dumb enough to swim directly away from shore into cold water full of predators with no obvious chance for escape. Any animal would’ve scrambled for shore as fast as physically possible!
Those poor little fuzz bebes. Fuck those producers and anyone involved who enabled and helped them.
Animal cruelty was pretty common back then. It's just so sad because the whole idea to throw animals off a cliff and let them drown was probably some sick guys fantasy. And all the other people around him just agreed with it.
There is also a movie called "the advantures of Milo and Otis" with a kitten and a pug. The shit they did to these poor animals is horrific and I think there were multiple "animal actors" that died and drowned while filming.
Shame the untruthers!!!
I've heard horror stories about the filming of Milo and Otis too. It's so sad what they used to put animals through just for movies ;;A;;
there goes my faith in humanity
what faith in humanity? we are literally killing ourselves and our planet with vehicles, and factories.
if anything we are exactly like what disney claimed the lemmings did, mass suicide. all for money. :(
This was the 50's. Our standards were much lower then. I like to think we've come a long way since then. Maybe not far enough, but still a lot. Try not to lose your faith just yet.
Brave Wilderness is an educational and entertainment channel, and I don't think there's anything wrong with setting up a scene for good intentions, but that's something they have to be really careful about as they could escalate and become too deceptive
Turtles are air breathing animals, I'm sure he told the Turtle exactly when to hold its breath
What's educational about dunking a turtle you are holding at speed head first into water and plant material? What are you exhibiting there? Numerous examples of these "bits". I thought we were past exploitation films for "education".
Brave wilderness bothers me a lot. I mean... it's fine to act everything out, but he legit pretends to scream and feel pain towards any insect sting.
Everything he has been stung by, doesn't hurt nearly as bad as he makes it sound.
This is so sad. And infuriating. Those poor creatures.
Oh crazy! My older sister told me about this when I was little. I believed her then, but as I got older, I dismissed it as too cruel to be true. And now I'm all kinds of 😰
Lemmings were definitely harmed in making this video
This is so sad this just shows how terrible Disney is😥. and also never thought brave wilderness would do that.
These poor creatures didn't deserve this.
Wasn’t there a documentary where a polar bear was filmed giving birth in a zoo but it was framed as if the bear was a wild one
yes, the "planet earth" documentary
Do you have the link to the article where you read they were pushed? I heard of this story decades ago but they said the lemmings where chased off the cliff.
You need to do Brave Wilderness expose my man.
Mom if your friends jumped off a cliff would you do it too?
Lemmings: …
What's even worse some people literally record wilderness videos in their backyard showing only vegetation around them
I used to watch a lot of brave wilderness and am interested what your beef is. I dont super mind faking shots for the narrative, as long as theyre recreating something they didnt film or showing something in a still realistic way. But i did stop watching over time as it felt they got more and more clickbaity and less educational. I still feel like theyre ultimately a force for good so i wanna know if im missing something
Oh also i just rememebered two dudes on clints reptiles got stung by bullet ants (with the stinger stuck in for shockingly long so defs nots of venom injected) and they were just like, kinda non plussed and it took hours to get really bad. That did made me trust his sting videos a lot less, so i wonder how prevelant that type of stretching the truth is on the channel.
But also like bee stings hurt p much 100% instantly so i wouldnt be surprised if some things he got stung by were actually that fast actuing 🤷♀️
The fact that this misinformation spread like a literal wild fire, is absolutely terrible..... I couldn’t even imagine that this kind of manipulation was allowed.
Also, yes I would like to see you cover brave wilderness
its not just that, most nature documentaries and "science" channels are also faked and debunked
"Action!! start throwing the lemmings."
How did they get so many angles for this “spontaneous” event
the "ocean" is actually the Bow River in Alberta
That clip from Brave Wilderness broke my heart
The biggest by far is David Attenborough, some years back they used CGI in a proclaimed real documentary. David Attenborough was the moist famous natural historian, but used CGI, when this was never used before. The public got real close up video which made it so fascinating. No on else had gone to that level of detail and made a quality educational programme. Just for no reason and with not giving advance disclaimers CGI was used on some shots. It was scandal that was exposed and David Attenborough covered the the truth saying CGI was used to "enhance" when the public were under the impression each scene was filmed.
Reminds me of the "documentary" where walruses are falling from cliffs because of climate change, but they don't show the polar bears on the other side.
“Sir, how do we get footage of lemmings killing themselves? They’re not doing it naturally.”
*”We force them to jump.”*
you're .....slightly off. They do...do this, but it isn't a compulsion to self-delete. It's the re sult of migratory behavior.
"Lemmings have become the subject of a widely popular misconception that they are driven to commit mass suicide when they migrate by jumping off cliffs. It is not a deliberate mass suicide, in which animals voluntarily choose to die, but rather a result of their migratory behavior. Driven by strong biological urges, some species of lemmings may migrate in large groups when population density becomes too great. They can swim and may choose to cross a body of water in search of a new habitat. "
I always knew that disney is evil but this beats everything and I hate it
A ritual sacrifice to pay tribute to the MOUSE filmed under the guise of a documentary.
I would actually love to hear the beef with bravewilderness
When I was younger, I loved Brave Wilderness videos. I never imagined that they would fake stuff. Maybe over exaggerate, but not straight up fake stuff. I definitely would like to learn more about this!
Jello Biafra in the late 80s was the first time I heard someone blow the lid off this movie.
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