YOU NEED TO STOP FILMING ON PRIVATE LAND!!!! NO, THIS IS A PUBLIC FOOTPATH!!! - HMRC Bristol
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What is going on everybody, this is TGA, and in today's video, we have another video from our recent visit to Bristol, in this video we visit, HM Revenue and Customs at 3 Glass Wharf. Hope you all enjoy this one.
I am amazed that We the public are limited to when and where We film Yet We are watched 24/7 by Corporation cameras with impunity and We have no say in the matter?I think We should all wear brown paper bags with smiley faces and eye holes (Wonder how long they would take to outlaw them)
It’s a crazy world we live in
Great video 👍
Salmon Harvester Properties is the owner and constructed 2016-2019 at L 75 million, 8 stories and 109,000 sq ft. Engineering firm noted the building includes public walkway and publicly accessible retail space on the ground floor. Wate Construction also has a time lapse video of construction. Numerous articles include interior photos showing open space floorplan, glass exterior and large tile flooring in mostly white. Site was a railway siding and redeveloped in 2007. Articles noted HMRC staff (1650 in 2021) consolidated in one location at the Bristol HQ and no reference to a public front desk or services.
If the government rents the building, the building becomes a public building, because the people are paying for it.
Exactly
No it doesn't
True. It is the same as if you rent your home. You can still tell people (or police) to leave your property no matter what the owner says. Legally for that situation it is yours.
No the tenant sets the rules.
@@gordonnewton4832 The Tennant is the government.
Section 33 of the Criminal Justice Act 1972 **does not give you the right to do or go anywhere**. It is about the definition of 'public place', but only in the context of the Public Order Act 1936, an old law about wearing political uniforms.
Exactly
Great work tga these thickos are exhausting 👍👍👍
Big ups TGA, great work, stay safe out there buddy 👊
Thanks Toxic
Message to the auditor haters...
He's stood under a big sign for the
13 mile long *Bristol to Bath Cycle Route.*
The metal bollards are the clear distinction between the public cycle path and the land they claim is private.
Absolutely, that’s what I tried educating the security guard on but he wouldn’t have it
The minimum wage security staff is the world we live in now , and they are all half arsed at doing the job, making up their own rules, because they are mostly in a bad mood.
That’s a completely wrong I’ve had the pleasure of meeting these security and intact they are not in a mood they’re doing their job, please don’t insult hard working people for no reason
@@BritBonBernard Hard working my ass, they are doing a job on minimum wage because they are not fit to do a hard days work.
This "in my face" bs really pisses me off.
I have never seen an auditor nor photographer stick their expensive camera equipment in anybodies face.
Respect from Australia
Thank you
@12.00 is that guy real or is he a robot? His movements give it away. Note, if a company or entity claims a public area as private they also automatically assume public liability, so if you should slip and fall they would be financially responsible for all your medical expenses, lost wages and pain and suffering. Claiming public space as private can be very very expensive.
POPS, privately owned public space, go look it up, and the sign covers their backs for any claims if people injure themselves on anything but faulty pavement.
What a complete plonker that security guy was lol
Too right
Which one😂
Far too many securoty often foreigners and usually useless
They may be able to spell in English though .
That last idiot tried so hard with his private property lines 😂
Then the next one tried as hard, its private land 😂
Now I'm gonna go😂
Bristol seems to have caught the mass security, not allowed disease. What is wrong with these people. What the hell difference does it make which part of the footpath you stand on. Is this really necessary, to have all those guards to worry about such nonsense things?
They sure have, it spreads like wildfire that one
What a mess,, Confused Law workers. , Confused with Law
At least no one had any public meltdowns.
if they claim it as private land then you should've asked to read the lease, they can't rent to the government without granting access to the public that is impossible
Who told you that?
@@SnakePliskin762 I would have thought that there has to be some clause as the public may need to come and talk with an employee of the HMRC.
@@AnthonySpringall their won't be a clause to say that but they'll have an area for the public to do that,i was answering the original poster regarding his rent & access nonsense.
@SnakePliskin762 it's not nonsense. Watch any video where police try to enter a rented house without a warrant. Not even a landlord can enter unless it is in the lease.
@AnthonySpringall People that work for the Govt are also members of the public. So if their was no public access how would they be able to enter?
Firstly, this is people’s place of work. You shouldn’t feel harassed anywhere, never mind where one works. Filming you may feel is not illegal, however, this is harassment and that is illegal.
For those supporting this level of harassment won’t be too pleased if this so called camera man were to get hold of your personal data which by the way is illegal.
Question is would you feel comfortable someone filing your house from a public footpath?
If you so desire records or info from a public body then you can refer to the FOI act.
What you have created is comments of racism and being cruel to people trying to protect YOUR privacy!
Thank you for the good comment
Everyone keeps saying it's not a problem, so why are they making such a fuss?
The woman acted very entitled she belongs inside not outside pestering the public.
They should arrest the shifty security guard just for looking . he should not be allowed to look at anything in public .
Enjoyed your video as always.
If the plods where coming they would be there with blues and twos in5 mins😊😊😊😊😊
Why can't people just mind their own bloody business
They always get touchy with our property
You should speak in a security guards accent. Just so that they can understand what you are saying. Might make things run a bit smoother.
I love the way low IQ people think saying "I'm not going to argue with you" wins an arguement in some way
TGA - the public servant’s nightmare.
Haha I like that
Come on , Bristol, you can do better than that. You're not London. I've been going to Bristol every year, taking hassle free photos, since 2015. Please don't start doing the London security crap!
Good audit.
Thanks
Pu tang security once again wow what a freak
Security not a clue just talking rubbish - POLICE NOT INTERESTED! - KEEP FILMING - PINAC!
That twerp with the glasses looked like his micro chip had malfunctioned, or was he practicing being an orchestra conductor?
Who owned the land in the first place and then sold the Land to legal and general in the first place and why?
Back handers again😂😂😂😂
There's nothing polite about infringing on a free man's rights. However smarmy you are about it.
Section 33 again. That old chestnut.
It means nothing. You can be asked to leave (and you can trespass on) a "public place" if it's privately owned. You only have an invitation to be there and the invitation can be withdrawn, at any time and for any reason.
I wish auditors would at least try and understand what section 33 actually is. It doesn't give anyone any permissions or rights to be anywhere.
The only places that you have an absolute right to be, without fear of being removed, are "public rights of way".
You can’t be trespassed from a designated public footpath, as that is always public. It’s got the footpath sign
@@TheGwentAuditorTGA That's what I said. A designated footpath is a public right of way.
11:20 Will be appearing on the next series of *The Undateables.*
The security really think they are important but embarrassed themselves every time they open there uneducated mouths. You spoil there 5 seconds of failed power.
Did that building have a cafe. You never mentioned it 🤔
I think it’s for the staff
Do some audits in England next
I thought that if a government agency leased a property, it had to have public access. And why are they leasing private property anyway? I'm sure there are loads of empty government owned buildings going begging. Waste of tax payers money. Or are they getting a kickback????
An opportunity missed there.
As soon as you so her you should have stepped into the door.
Then you could really start talking in circles...
Why do they always say “I’m asking politely”. The fact they are asking is the opposite of polite
Zimbabwe House?
What a bunch of silly sausages lol
Haha too right
Is there any English left in England 🇬🇧 😅
Can they please send me to Rwanda?
Don’t think the tax man deports people
Truly amazing how many people think that because they own the land they can dictate how and when they will allow you access to a designated footpath.
Its not a designated public footpath, the area is private, that includes any access across that land (POPS), it is not a public footpath, just an access which can be revoked by the land owner.
Quite amazing, the public are not allowed in a public building, but the public has the privilege of paying for it.
The public don't own the building, hence they are not allowed in.
@@tonyb1223 So who owns a public state building if not the public who paid for it and continues to pay for all its maintenance and running costs?
@@DameEdna42 The Crown, you own nothing, is your name on the deed?
And we don't have "public" buildings in the UK, they may have in the US of A, but that will just be poor education from auditors who can't tell the difference between countries and laws 😄
@@tonyb1223 Who owns and funds the Crown.
@@DameEdna42 You dont own the Crown, how many times will you be told 😄
If you think we do, then I own your home, I own your servitude because you once took unemployment benefit or some form of social payment.
Your name is also not on the deeds to the building, your name is not on the deeds for the land, you also don't undrrstand how our tax distribution works and why you don't own or have any right to ownership to anything that it pays for.
The public own nothing that they pay tax for, until you figure that out and figure out that auditors lie to you, either intentionally or due to incompetence (using US laws in the UK or laws that have no relevance to the subject are prime examples), the less you will look stupid on the internet.
What difference to moving 3 ft away or 1 yard if you like obvs we don’t use european measurements any more 😂😂😂😂
What are they afraid of you seeing ???????
God knows
Not much with full wall glass panels
Your personal data which in fact the security is protecting from strange people like this camera man.
🤬🤬 Directly from Dinghy to Security in One smooth motion.🤬🤬
I WILL GIVE YOU £1,000,000 IF YOU CAN SHOW ME WHERE, IN SECTION 33 OF THE CJA 1972, IT SAYS ANYTHING ABOUT ANYONE BEING ANYWHEERE AND DOING ANYTHING. I DO NOT HAVE £1,000,000 WHICH IS JUST AS WELL BECAUSE YOU WON'T FIND IT. THIS IS AN EXTENSION TO THE PUBLIC ORDER ACT THAT WAS PUT IN PLACE SOLELY TO ALLOW THE CPS TO CHARGE FOR PUBLIC ORDER ACT OFFENCES ON PRIVATE LAND/BUILDINGS THAT THE PUBLIC ACCESS.
YOU NEED TO LISTEN. HOWEVER, CLEARLY I DON'T THINK YOU EVER HAVE, TO ANYONE.
GO AND READ IT OR GET AN ADULT TO HELP YOU.
@serenityhealth6492 Stop SHOUTING FFS 😠Firstly it's rude, and secondly you'll give yourself a stroke which at least will stop you mouthing off! Seems so typical these days from "Non Entity Pronouns" like yourself✌🏴☠😂
We can film in a public place, so anywhere defined as a public place, we can realistically film as well. It’s not an enclosed space, it’s an open space
@@TheGwentAuditorTGAyes you can film in a public place but as he rightly put s33 doesn't cover it.
@@TheGwentAuditorTGA THERE IS NO LAW THAT SAYS THAT AS MUCH AS THERE IS NO LAW THAT PERMITS JOGGING! YES, TAKE PICTURES BUT STOP MISQUOTING THE LAW AND BEING A FOOL.
“JUST an individual”? Yes… an individual taxpayer who funds this building and your salaries, so in essence I’m your boss.
Nope
I could be your landlord if you live in social housing then? 😂
You don't own the building, you don't own the people working there, its like saying, I am your boss because you work for the electric company and I use electricity 😂
It's funny how they want you to cease recording but they record us without our consent.
Floella Benjamin has let herself go since Playdays back in the 1980s.
H.M arsey😂
LOL, keep getting it wrong TGA, its a POPS, you are not on any "public footpath", you are on private land with access, which they can revoke, like they did.
As for section 33, you should really read up on the law 😆 as it is an amendment to the 1936 POA, section 9 as noted below (which has nothing to do with photography or where you can take pictures).
9Interpretation, &c.
(1)In this Act the following expressions have the meanings hereby respectively assigned to them, that is to say:-
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . F1
“Meeting” means a meeting held for the purpose of the discussion of matters of public interest or for the purpose of the expression of views on such matters;
“Private premises” means premises to which the public have access (whether on payment or otherwise) only by permission of the owner, occupier, or lessee of the premises;
“Public meeting” includes any meeting in a public place and any meeting which the public or any section thereof are permitted to attend, whether on payment or otherwise;
[F2“Public place” includes any highway [F3, or in Scotland any road within the meaning of the Roads (Scotland) Act 1984] and any other premises or place to which at the material time the public have or are permitted to have access, whether on payment or otherwise.]
They can’t revoke access from a designated public footpath
@@TheGwentAuditorTGA If it is part of the POPS then yes they can, that will be private land, unless it has a sign saying that it is a "public footpath", which no doubt it does not, then it is NOT a public footpath, just an access over the estate's land which is still private (its not implied either).
@@TheGwentAuditorTGA BE TOLD! ACCESS FROM A DESIGNATED PUBLIC FOOTPATH? WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT! YOU WERE ON PRIVATE LAND. ASK MUMMY TO ADVANCE YOU YOUR YEARS POCKET MONEY (£3) AND DO A LAND REGISTRY SEARCH. IT MATTERS NOT, IN ANY EVENT, IF A BUILDING IS FUNDED BY THE TAXPAYER OR NOT: YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED IN.
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BEHAVE YOURSELF.
@@serenityhealth6492 Stop SHOUTING FFS 😠Firstly it's rude, and secondly you'll give yourself a stroke which at least will stop you mouthing off! Seems so typical these days from "Non Entity Pronouns" like yourself✌🏴☠😂
@@tonyb1223 There's a big sign saying *Bristol to Bath Cycle Route.*
The metal bollards are the clear boundary for their "private" land, and the 13 mile long "public" cycle path.
1:32 that’s blown her out of the water….
Using legislation.gov doesn’t make you an expert in law lol, bothering and annoying Civil Servants is just not necessary…
Yep, government buildings are not public spaces lol. Imagine letting average Joe's into classified information or shoulder surf people's data
Is he all the ticket?
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@Billy well billy bunter it could of been a whole lot more graphic but i chose not to be as you anachronistic fogies wouldnt get it. Thats it go look it up before you make another inane comment. Ooops you better look that up also then you mite stop beibg so egocentric. Ohhh how the list could go on
@Billy do we have a pathetic royalist here
WTF do they have to do with anything?
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@Billy and how the ANACHRONISM goes quiet
So your using our money to rent a private building, the building then becomes a public place because it’s being paid for by the public.
It doesn't work like that, the building is private, you have no right to be in there without an invite, it does not matter how it is funded, it still remains a private property in the UK.
Still a lot of non jobs there 😅😅😅😅
@@cliffordbuttle4529 The only non job is the one filming wirh no idea about the law, where they can safely fly or peoples rights, and please note the last part, thats your rights that he is abusing.
Not a very polite and professional woman ehhh
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