Chaya Czernowin - Sahaf [w/ score]

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    performed by Ensemble Nikel
    Sahaf (Drift), for saxophone, e-guitar, percussion and piano by Chaya Czernowin (1995)
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    uploaded with permission from Chaya Czernowin, Schott Music, and Ensemble Nikel.
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  • @nathanielouzana
    @nathanielouzana 9 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I played this to a first grade girl and she liked it and started to dance.... Seems like I have made an achievement in this world :)

  • @Slitnozzle
    @Slitnozzle 8 ปีที่แล้ว +137

    My mother used to sing this to me. Ah, the memories.

    • @Diamonddogusa
      @Diamonddogusa 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ok, this made me laugh. Thanks.

    • @daigreatcoat44
      @daigreatcoat44 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'd like to think that you sang along with her. You're lucky to have had such a remarkable mother.

    • @djoyce33
      @djoyce33 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      best comment ever :))

  • @talastra
    @talastra หลายเดือนก่อน

    The quiet part at the beginning with words was haunting.

  • @incipitsify
    @incipitsify  11 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    wait what - this IS pretty

  • @officialburkemusic
    @officialburkemusic 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Honestly, I think this piece is a load of fun.

  • @haydenryan831
    @haydenryan831 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Chaya's scores are always so fantastic!

  • @kadoen
    @kadoen 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    One of the best uploads lately, I really like the feeling of machinery that starts and stops gradually, the ratchet really helps in that. Also, all those repeated quickly repeating notes must hurt the fingers :')
    Edit: I just realized this was uploaded in 2012, it somehow appeared on my youtube frontpage

  • @landonellis8728
    @landonellis8728 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The use of different and constantly changing tone colors in this piece feel very well thought out. I may never find myself writing in this style, but this has piqued my interest.

  • @rogerseim6958
    @rogerseim6958 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Actually, i found this kind of pieces very interesting... i saw a coment that says that the composer doesn´t have anything to say, but it´s really hard to write this pieces, and also, i think that, on the way to found new paths to our music, we need to express this controlled chaos.

    • @Melpheos1er
      @Melpheos1er 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's really hard to make someone wear a neckless made of turd. Doesn't me the turd neckless is a masterpiece

    • @lightyagami1058
      @lightyagami1058 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think it's very Crumb-esque or possibly Varesian.

  • @arunaszizys5225
    @arunaszizys5225 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    the excitement of newly discovering a composer on one's wavelength

  • @priscilamalanski7405
    @priscilamalanski7405 9 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    great!!!!

    • @sanicyouth6540
      @sanicyouth6540 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Priscila Malanski I agree. :)

  • @jesusmauryvargas8971
    @jesusmauryvargas8971 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    such a banger

  • @Disestabulistic
    @Disestabulistic 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Holy crap, many thanks for posting.

  • @ayaneyamanaka
    @ayaneyamanaka 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    LOVE IT LOVE IT LOVE IT!!

  • @MrBeethovenfan
    @MrBeethovenfan 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    My biggest complaint with contemporary or new music is I've spent decades collecting and cataloging in the broad genres of "chamber" or "orchestral," then along comes newer ensembles that are relatively small but sound orchestral and all my efforts are out the window! Pierre Boulez was among the earliest culprits. I'll need a new broad genre -- music.

    • @pawllyphonic
      @pawllyphonic 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, it's been for over half a century now. Nono's great duo for two violins is (for me) like a Mahler symphony. I too keep chamber and orchestral music generally separate, but with modern music (which consumes almost all my time now) I don't separate by number of performers. If it's something (no matter how profound) that feels like a conversation that one might over-hear, than it goes with chamber. If it (no matter how trivial) seems to be addressing itself at me and/or an audience, than it goes with orchestral.

    • @MrBeethovenfan
      @MrBeethovenfan 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      pawllyphonic
      I may have to try this. Thank you!

    • @randywells3695
      @randywells3695 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      MrBeethovenfan Simply put I am the broad new genre of music (one must of course ignore any flaws in the performances, as they are single take, as well as the necessity of only putting crowd pleasers up at the moment), but I assure you I am the whole future of art music.

  • @ezequielstepanenko3229
    @ezequielstepanenko3229 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    it's fun to read, and it must be entertaining to play because of it's difficultness, a funny piece nothing more

  • @gurumajuindonesia
    @gurumajuindonesia 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    she played the guitar ?? damn .. awesome !

  • @netedco
    @netedco 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Then good for you, after her hard work it's nice that someone finds beauty in her works :)

  • @marcomoreiradasilva7294
    @marcomoreiradasilva7294 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a very good prog rock.

  • @talastra
    @talastra หลายเดือนก่อน

    The farty bottle-slides made me smile; quite adorable.
    It's too bad the composer isn't around: I want to know why the piece is the length it is.

  • @__414.88b_
    @__414.88b_ ปีที่แล้ว

    Heavy and cool

  • @guarrho
    @guarrho 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    right on

  • @yokolynne
    @yokolynne 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    HA j'adore!

  • @klangschatten5610
    @klangschatten5610 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Strange, weird, but very interesting music.

  • @jameshelgeson4668
    @jameshelgeson4668 7 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    It's always better to disable comments....

    • @morissmor
      @morissmor 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It really is

    • @NateSassoonMusic
      @NateSassoonMusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@morissmor no, discussion is good

  • @pRahvi0
    @pRahvi0 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is there supposed to be sound or is it muted?

  • @machida5114
    @machida5114 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    so good...

    • @machida5114
      @machida5114 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is a work that everyone is interested in. Many comments point to that.

  • @pedroyambi
    @pedroyambi 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Actually, it was kind of a superlative statement about how much this music impresses me. I'm glad you're so passionate on defending it, though. Anyway, you have to admit is not exactly easy listening to this music (as with Ferneyhough's).

    • @talastra
      @talastra หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ferneyhough is shit. This is not shit.

  • @netedco
    @netedco 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Don't get too upset, Chaya told herself that she doesn't try to make it pretty or comfortable. It is not ment to be understood right away...

  • @goingfortheone1
    @goingfortheone1 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I like plenty of other compositions by her, but I'd pick Thinking Plague over this.

    • @talastra
      @talastra หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, but they're also not at all the same thing.

  • @andreslka
    @andreslka 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    (1/7)/4 cool

  • @netedco
    @netedco 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's the same recording from the CD lol :)

  • @creamforever2677
    @creamforever2677 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    El valor de esta cosa es similar al del regaetton

  • @1MrZackdaddy
    @1MrZackdaddy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    JJJEEESSSUUUSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!

  • @nik8099
    @nik8099 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I like this. Of course this will piss off the classical music elitists, but they are always angry at everything!

  • @nycsym
    @nycsym 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "She muddies the waters that they might appear deep". ~ Nietzsche
    Great quote. Freddy was wrong about many things, but not about writing in an obscure way so as to appear profound.

  • @franckmousset4022
    @franckmousset4022 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Il paraît que cette femme est professeure de composition. J'espère qu'elle enseigne mieux qu'elle n'écrit. En tout cas, j'espère qu'elle n'enseigne pas son style.

    • @jwbeats35
      @jwbeats35 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Franck Mousset elle écrit très bien

  • @TheCounterpointer
    @TheCounterpointer 11 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    because??? is it because it's not C maj, G maj chord kind of thing?.. surely this music is made for SOME human brains. Maybe not yours though. But don't generalize all human brains.

  • @Jazzdog40
    @Jazzdog40 10 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    She muddies the waters that they might appear deep. ~ Nietzsche

    • @evancaplinger5856
      @evancaplinger5856 9 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      ok so this line applies to romantic poets and not modernist composers, for one thing - nietzsche is discussing the poets' exploitation of private emotion and the sense of profundity, whereas his view is that that stuff should be felt within and not projected without - a cursory search on analysis on the internet could tell you that. meanwhile, chaya czernowin's explicit purpose is to bury the emotion so that you have to dig to find it.
      so - nietzsche refers to poets that lure in people with tricks to make their emotion seem more accessible, whereas czernowin deliberately alienates people? hmmmm

  • @pedroyambi
    @pedroyambi 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Damn! This was not made for the human brain.

  • @theopaopa1
    @theopaopa1 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    la compositora sabe "componer" pero no tiene absolutamente nada para decir, contar o transmitir.
    si ésto es el fruto de su imaginación, talento, sensibilidad, esfuerzo y duro trabajo me parece que (si ella es verdaderamente honesta consigo misma) pierde el tiempo, y si no lo es (honesta consigo misma) entonces allá ella con su consciencia y autocrítica. La así llamada música contemporánea es por lo general así, ruidos sin ritmo ni ton ni son, ella no es una excepción.

  • @squirrelterritory
    @squirrelterritory 9 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    The success of a modernist composer is based off how exotic their last name is. It's all garbage, so who can tell the difference.

    • @incipitsify
      @incipitsify  9 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      While considering the fact that my last name means vagina and I'm not successful (at all), I'd say no.

    • @squirrelterritory
      @squirrelterritory 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      incipitsify lol, wf kind of last name is it?

    • @sebastiandiakakisnilo6999
      @sebastiandiakakisnilo6999 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dude you must have some serious issues there...get better, good luck!

    • @squirrelterritory
      @squirrelterritory 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jesse Kaiser what form is it that u are appreciating, I know alot about music theory so you don't have to explain what ur terms mean

  • @arvidtom
    @arvidtom 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Everything I've heard by this woman (and actually most composers on this channel) is the same boring "emperor's new clothes" kind of academic European 'avant garde' music (which actually is not avant garde at all, because it's basically nothing but a recycling of the same 1960s-70s modernist tricks and formulas over and over again).

    • @johnappleseed8369
      @johnappleseed8369 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't agree with your assertion, Hans Christian Andersen has better books than the "Emperor's New Clothes". It's overrated garbage, I think you should be talking about this piece rather than some shitty book that you love so much. Why not comment this on a book forum or something? that would be more relevant wouldn't it?

    • @talastra
      @talastra หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@johnappleseed8369 Says the person with John Appleseed as his handle?!?

  • @franckmousset4022
    @franckmousset4022 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Exemple emblématique de mauvaise musique contemporaine. Lachenmann a vraiment rendu un mauvais service à toute une génération de compositeurs. Outre l'instrumentalisation qui est loin d'être la plus géniale, on a l'impression plus d'un catalogue d'effets sonores que d'une véritable composition avec une structure perceptible et avec un discours cohérent. Pas étonnant qu'une part importante de la population se détourne de ce type de musique.

  • @eai554
    @eai554 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Unadulterated crap; Czernowin has much better music; this never should have seen the light of day, much less performed

  • @frankfeldman6657
    @frankfeldman6657 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i can tell you this-the players are doing no more than vaguely approximating the notation a good deal of the time. so what is gained from such pretentious notation?