My favorite spinning reel fell in the lake, and all of a sudden seized. Had to open and clean it up. Thought I would share. My first and very detailed review on that reel is here: • Affordable Finesse Ree...
@Hooked In the UK the anti-reverse is a must! backwinding is common relying on the drag is unreliable at times it can cause fish loss. Your far more in control! I stopped buying Shimano's due to the fact they dropped the anti-reverse option. Never had any issues with water entering via the switch over bad weather conditions.
Great reviews, thank you for uploading. I like that you talk about start up resistance of these spinning reels.......many spinners are high gear ratio and hard to turn, they just don't feel as smooth. This concerns me greatly as I worm fish for bass in the States and start and stop the reel constantly. Also, I think one reason the Daiwa reels are smoother is because they use two bearings on the pinion gear (Abu and Pflueger do also)....... many other manufacturers do not. Lately I've been using a Pflueger Patriarch. The only thing that worries me about the $100.00 and down Daiwa LT reels is the lack of line roller bearing. I wonder if that would contribute to performance and line twist problems? Bushings might be ok if they were metal like in the knob - but usually bushings in modern reels these days means plastic - and I think those are a big mistake....prone to quick wear and lots of maintenance. What do you think?
My Legalis LT is still in top shape, and I used it more than any other reel while panfishing this year. Check my crappie ninja video, and my bluegill videos. I never had problem with the line rollers on the LT reels. You have to be careful with the word 'Plastic'. Zaion is plastic. CI4+ is plastic. 13Fishing made a new reel without bearings, just plastic bushings. It casts better than most reels with bearings. Plastic today is very different that what it was 10 years ago. And all plastic bushing have one major advantage over metals - they do not rust. This is the reason plastic is often preferred over metal alternatives. I think the Legalis LT is a gem that the fishing community never discovered. It is really more pleasant to fish than the $200 Ballistic and Tatula. On Shimano reels, all reels starting from Sahara have 2 bearings on the pinion. Sedona and lower do not. But sahara is pretty cheap. My single most watched video is my video on the shimano Sahara. I recommend you check it. Thanks for watching! Please share my channel with brothers in tackle!
I'm glad I'm not the only one I picked up 45 reels for over 2 hours last week ranging from 29.00 to 250.00 and this reel felt so damn good smooth and effortless I had to check the prick twice and take a picture for when I get paid to go grab it lol.
This is a precise reel. I love the crossfire- but this is smooth as silk. 6:2:1. For the money diawa has been hanging with shimano. Still have an early diawa from waaaaaay back. Love them all. But this lt 2500 is lazer smooth and effortless on retrieving.
Ultralight fishing under 100$ - Daiwa has no competition from any brand. Shimano has incredible high end reels, but has NOTHING under 100. All of this Sahara, Sedona, Nasci stuff is heavy like a rock. They are great solid reels, but more fore bass fishing and even bottom fishing. Just too heavy for UL fishing
i feel like i need to have several channels. Some of my subs are interested only by my gear reviews, and some only by carp fishing, and some only by catfishing. So my videos are always not gona be interesting to some.. Thanks for watching, my friend
Would you recommend upgrading to line roller bearing and carbontex drag washers? I feel like it would take it to the next level. I love my stock legalis
what can u upgrade the roller bearing with? I dont recommend using carbon washers in small reels. It is too harsh. There is not much to upgrade in a stock legalis, other than shimming the knob maybe. What u could do is keep it clean, and service it in the winter
I know you love this reel but i got 2 of the revros lt and i really like them but i was wondering if its worth upgrading to this one in the future. Do you know the differences? Can you make a review on the revros lt in the future. From what i saw online i think the revros lt is one of the best budget reels around.
Do u mean the new Revros LT? There is only one difference between the Revros LT and Legalis LT. In the Revros they removed one of the bearings on the pinion gear and replaced it with bushing, to save 10 dollars. I don't like that. That is a very important bearing. However i have to say that when i test them in the store both reels feel the same to me. I think when brand new the bushing is just as smooth as the bearing, and the difference will show later. The Revros will lose smoothness sooner. I recommend the legalis over the revros, its worth the extra 10 bucks because it also looks nicer. But if you already got the revros - it is silly to change reels just for one bearing.
I ordered a legalis 2500 lt after seeing your review. When it arrived, I noticed the drag sound is almost non-existent. If I hold it next to me ear, I can just barely hear it. It doesn't sound at all like my exceler. I looked into shipping it back, but it's going to cost too much to make it worth doing. Is there any way to adjust the sound on it?
The drag sound mechanism of Legalis and Exceller is one and the same. If they don't sound the same, something is not right inside. However this particular drag sound mechanism is extremely durable, there is just nothing to break, because it runs inside the spool. It is possible that your spool is not all the way down. I would remove both spools on the two reels, and compare the drag clicker setup inside.
grease goes only on the teeth of the gears - main gear, pinion gear and locomotive gear. Also a little bit on the main shaft. Oil on all bearings. The rest of the reel should be dry, otherwise will collect dirt. If u disassemble the spool, u need to put special drag grease on the carbon disks. Felt disks are hard to tell. Sometimes its oil, not grease. Good thing is it doesn't really matter what u do with the drag disks, just don't put much
I know all your videos are on ultralight and panfish, but I've got a bass question. I have an ultralight combo that I'm happy with, but I'd like to get a new bass set up. I was thinking of getting this reel in either 2500 or 3000 for bass fishing with 10 pound mono. What are your thoughts or do you have a different reel you'd recommend for bass?
This is ultralight reel. Frame is too thin and flexes a lot. Also gears are not that durable. Sahara ia just as smooth but with stronger frame and gears. Of course it is heavier than Legalis but for bass it is better
Hope you’re having a great week so far, mister Victor! Could you please tell me if the spools are the same in the legalis lt2000s-p and lt2000s-xh? I understand the first has slower ratio and the weigh is the same,but not sure about the spool. Also in the first column of the tech specs on amazon the s-p has a 60 something number and the second has an 80 something. What is that? It’s in Japanese and I am trying to decide which one to buy …Thanks again 🙏
My favorite reel, but be careful! If you broke the metal BG you will probably break the Legalis, which has a thin graphite body. Legalis LT is a ultralight reel .. even though it comes in bigger sizes it is still just ultralight
Yer it was just a mistake with the bg I was taking it off the rod and I dropped it! I love it , I will get it fixed . I like the weight of the legalis I fished it yesterday and today micro jigging with a miniature DAX jig got queen fish and some other small stuff it’s nice being so light !!👌
start putting line on your spool. When u get half way - stop. Inspect the line lay. If the line is perfect - you got lucky. If there is a gap where the line doesn't reach the spool on one side, but on the other side of the spool there is a small bulge because of too much line - your spool is not seated properly and needs to be shimmed with these plastic shims. If the gap is on top - you need one of the plastic shims. The plastic shims are of different thickness. Try to put a shim that is as thick as your gap. If the gap is on the bottom of the spool - you need to remove the spool and take out one of the plastic shims that are already there.
Do you know if the rubber thumb grip is removable? It has a shiny plastic piece over it that i tried to pry off but it didn't pop off like I was expecting.
My similar price point Shimano reels allow you to remove the thumb grip to service/lube that area. They can dry out or get dirt up in them. Daiwa told me it is removable but the customer service rep didn't seem very confident in what they were talking about. Mine feels like it has slop and some grit so i wanted to get it off to inspect @@ifishcatfish
well that's the rule. Which $60 shimano has removable knob? Did u really talk to a daiwa rep? Or a sales associate. If you do remove it, send me a picture please. ifishcatfish@gmail.com It might be possible, but i was afraid to put more pressure because mine is fine.
i_fish I finally removed it. It pops off easy if you pry down between the silver cap and the rubber. The knob still does not come off - no screw. I did remove a thin c-clip between the knob and handle a\but that did not release it to remove. It just seems to be there to take up play. Apparently my knob just has too much play if others aren’t having this issue. Mine is the LT1000 size. It is very annoying as I hear it constantly and just reminds me poor fit. The Daiwa rep I spoke to said I could send it in for warranty service but mine doesn’t seem broken, just poor quality control.
no. Dont put too much force on that plastic cap or u will strip it. That's now the handle is. U cant shim this handle. It's really not bad, i have may legalis reels and they are all fine
Ok I’m definitely gonna get a legalis for my UL... what line do you use? I was gonna go lightest possible maybe braid . Would I be able to put 2-4 lb test on the 2500 or of I’m going that light with line should I get the 1000.
ben anthony patrick this reel is already super light, same weight as stradic ci4+ of same size. I dont like 1000 size reels because the spool is too small and the line is curly and u cant cast far because of spool drag and curly line. Not worth the saved few grams. If you use cheap line, 2-4 lb is ok. If u use fluoro, u can do 6 lb. The diameter should be between 0.16 and 0.20 mm. Braid doesnt cast super light weights well and its not smooth and has high wind drag and thats a problem with ul weights. Thanks for stopping by
did u really throw away an Abu reel? They have amazing gears! Sometimes when dirty water dries out, the fine mud that was in the water 'bakes in' and sticks like glue. But there is no physical damage to the gears, they just need to be cleaned.
Yeah I did that was a few years ago. I just figured it was wore out. I bet I casted it 10 million time in the ten years I used it. But the symptoms of it sounded just like yours. Bet I could have got a few more years out of it. Have you tried any of the Cadence reels yet? I just ordered one To try out.
No, but i see them everywhere. It is chinese product, I expect it to be a good value but not comparable to daiwa or shimano in smoothness. Rods may be good though.
Hi brother I have a question I would like to ask you which reel would you recommend eirther the Daiwa legalis Lt or Shimano sedona fi in 1000 size which one better?
Legalis is much lighter and better for ultralight fishing. I don't recommend sedona. If you really want sedona spend the extra 10 dollars and get the Sahara.
@@ifishcatfish how about the Sedona 500 size it's 180g where legalis 1000 is 185g? Or you still think legalis better? Thanks for replying brother I really enjoyed all you videos very helpful :)
Legalis is MUCH better for ultralight fishing. Sedona is same as Sahara, but with one bearing on the pinion gear removed. That is important bearing. I always recommend Sahara over Sedona. But both reels are too heavy for ultralight fishing.
Nice vid i_fish. Just wondering if the main gear is machined aluminium after all? It looks like it’s a cast zinc gear in the video. I know they have a machined aluminium gear in the the more expensive reels of the lt series
Travis Wilson to myknowledge there is no difference in the gears of exceller and ballistic for example, or anything released in that batch. Daiwa has exact same text describing the gears of both reels ‘precision machined and polished’. If course i could be wrong but daiwa has the same description and i dont have anything else to suggest otherwise. The more expensive reels add bearings, screw un handle, magseal as well as a full range if other seals, but the digigear used is the same. Shimano uses the same approach in my findings- same hagane gears in cheap sahara and stradic ci4+ and even, believe it or not, in the nee shimano exsence ci4+. Only exotic reels have special surface treatments. My opinion and findings in my own reels, not official vendor position.
i_fish thanks for the reply. Daiwa actually uses a cast zinc main gear (zinc or zinc alloy) on their lower tier reels, has been for a long time. You can see the casting marks on the main gear in your video (the letters and numbers on the flat spot just inside the gear teeth), which indicates it cant be machined, it has to be cast. The legalis, exceler (and I assume the fuego) have this gearing. Daiwa's been using a cast zinc gear on their lower tier reels for a while now. Mid tier reels use a machined aluminium gear (7075 billet) like what's in the ballistic, caldia, td sol, certate etc. Saltigas, morethan branzino have the stronger bronze alloy. I wouldn't pay much attention to the marketing jargon daiwa uses to describe their gears, they're inconsistent in how they label their products and alot of the people and sales reps who work for daiwa couldn't tell you what's inside their reels. Also, cast zinc looks distinctively different to machined aluminium. The gear you're holding in your hand at 3:04 is cast zinc. It's cheaper and not as durable.
very interesting. I have the caldia, and I also have daiwa Vadel, both of which are magsealed, and I had to open them more than once to search for squeaks, but I could never tell the difference in gear material with these here. I want to learn how to identify these myself. Can you point me to a good article on the topic? Maybe I will open both of them again and compare.
i_fish one way to tell is the letters and numbers on the cast gear, theres no way they could be reproduced that way via any machining process, had to be a casting mold. All cast gears from daiwa I've seen have these. Also the appearance of cast zinc is a dull grey, and alot of the time you can see swirls, the finish isn't as uniform. On a machined aluminum gear, the metal will be bright and shiny, no swirls just a completely uniform finish, they even feel different. If you compare both gears side by side the difference is much more obvious. You'll know. Have a look at a video of a ballistic lt that's been dissassembled and you can see what the machined aluminium gear looks like, the difference can be seen viewing a video on a computer screen.
will do. Thanks for bringing this up. I will address in my next daiwa review. if u find a nice article that compares the two manufacturing processes please paste a link here
Just got my new 2500d this morning from amazon and i noticed that there's a bit of a play on the handle and it makes a bit of a tapping sound when you reel it. Is this normal?
what other reels do u have? All reels have a little free play in the handle. My brand new $300 Luvias has free play in the handle. U can't completely avoid that. But if u have other reels - it shouldn't have more free play than your other reels. As for the tapping noise.. that is more concerning. Again, no reel is completely silent (except the new Ryoga maybe) but your noise sounds more than normal. If you bought it from amazon it may be safer to just return and replace it. That's why we order from amazon..
@@ifishcatfish i am a beginner and this is going to be my first decent reel. 😁 please check the link. th-cam.com/video/1D7NTOsdIuM/w-d-xo.html. I am already planning to return it tomorrow but thought of asking you first.
Revrods and Legalis is the same reel, they just removed one of the pinion gear support bearings from the Legalis. It is still pretty smooth and pretty good even with the platic bushing but i really like to know i have two bearings on the pinion gear so I usually recommend the Legalis LT or the Regal LT, because they have a full set of bearings. But it is still a good reel
Inferior. No sealing anywhere and the stradic is sealed. Sahara is not sealed but has a thick sturdy frame. The Legalis LT has a very soft frame with a lot of flex. No good for saltwater or any strong fish. It is the best ultralight reel on planet though- super light and super smooth and super low inertia
Yes from amazon , where i live in cape breton , NS , Canada , they dont have these kinda reels so i always have to order them or i would have to drive 5 or 6 hrs to the nearest bass pro shop
yes, it is a TRUE ultralight. What do you need it for? Legalis LT is the best ultralight reel on the market, and if u need the 1000, get it, but you should consider the 2500. It weighs the same as a shimano stradic CI4+, which weighs nothing. I love ultralights but today there is no point of using a 1000 size reel, and get your line curly as a pig tail because of the small spool. The Legalis LT is so super light, that 2500 is what I would start with. That said, even the 2500 is not a good bass reel because of the soft frame. I caught a 10 lb carp with it and it wasnt a problem, and occasional bass will be fine, but it is not suited for that much stress regularly. If u want a reel in that price range that will sustain stress, look at the shimano sahara (i have great video on it)
@@ifishcatfishMan, many thanks for the reply! This is actually interesting, as it would be for finesse bass fishing with 8# mono for the moment. I am looking to upgrade a Daiwa Crossfire 2000, that i bought on clearance for my first reel - I didn't know much at all when I first started fishing. The Crossfire is really bulky and heavy for a low performer, so I figured anything would be better than that. So, not even a 2500?
its a bad idea for bass fishing, because of the severe hook sets that you guys use. The LT reels are made of really thin and soft plastic, that will flex on the hooksets. When it flexes, the gears get out of alignment just a little bit. Sahara is equally smooth and finesse, but made of much thicker and stronger plastic, and does not flex. But unfortunately that makes it heavier, and I do not like it for ultralights. I don't know, if you are gentle and use a soft rod, so the tip absorbs some of the stress... and don't fish very often... maybe. But bass folks usually use super stiff rods, trying to set the hook, which is horrible for finesse reels. U have to make the call. You will LOVE the Legalis LT , but only in the first 3 months. Then with more bass fishing it will start feeling rougher. Sahara will be heavier, but will last longer to bass fishing. All other brands are junk right now. Dont tell anyone i said that, but nothing compares to these two reels. (from other brands)
@@ifishcatfish This is really good information. I can say that i am most certainly not your average bass angler. My start was in true utralight and have never been able to move past flexible rods, light lures and light wire hooks (for bass standards). I don't think i've ever set a hook like these folks do in the videos. Sweep and reel seems to work just fine. That said, this is the most helpful bits of information i've gotten on reels, maybe ever. Thank you very much!
Nice video👍👍 How do you think this 2500 reel would perform on a egi (squid) rod? I just bought a Rovex squid specialist rod and was considering putting this reel on it.
What about the lt Regal???I order one 3 days ago an I wich I seen this video before buying it I hope I didn't made a mistake a $60.00 mistake hope you know something about the Daiwa regal✌🏾💪🏽
The reverse clutch roller-bearing is not supposed to be oiled. If you use the reel in colder temperature it will reverse when you try to hook-up a fish. I had to strip-down my daiwa fuego again and clean all the oil from the roller-bearing.
Anton Milanov yeah, that was my first knowledge on the issue, but turns out it is ok to oil. Not only oild, but some brand new reels come with grease on the AR-B. I use a special oil that actually dries out and does not collect dust and is not affected by tempersture
careful replacing felt with carbon. It will feel rougher. Shimano vanquish costs $450 and still comes with felt in the small models. I would buy felt from daiwa directly if i had to replace drag disks. I would not put carbon in these small reels. Better yet buy the whole spool from europe for $20. Comes with carbon. Cheaper than buying the felt alone from daiwa probably.
on the link from europe i mean the whole spool comes with drag disks. They will be the original drag disks which are felt. I have 5 of these spools in all kinds of sizes. U can get other colors too. Remember the spools of legalis and exceller are same...
the knob is not attached with a screw and not replace-able. You would have to buy entire handle from daiwa. Or you have to take it to a shop that has these kind of tools. Too expensive for such cheap reel. I love the knob though - why do u want to replace it, if u don't mind me asking?
interesting. I made opposite replacements. I had daiwa Vadel reels that I loved but could not stand the handles, and replaced them with the slim daiwa handles. I put those on some reels i don't use.. Thanks for watching and I hope to see you around!
mogtrader8 i dont have a special tool set. But u will need some of those star screw drivers. Also something like a long needle to remove that tiny clip.
Vsi4ki maraki rabotiat s braid. Njama takova neshto kato makara za braid ili makara za mono. Tiq gluposti deto gi slagat na shpulata gi izmisliha za hora koito ne mogat da vyrjat svesten vyzel na shpulata i posle braid-a se plyzga. Ako mojesh da vyrjesh hubav vyzel - vsi4ki makari sa za braid. Ako ne mojesh - sloji 3 santa tikso otdolu. No nai dobre s hubav vyzel.
vsi4ki makari rabotiat s braid. Problemite sa 4e braid-a se plyzga po shpulata ako ne napravish hubav vyzel. Njakoi makari namotavat kordata s po byrz hod na shpulata za da ne moje braida da se vpiva nadylvoko kato vhanesh goliama riba. Tova syshto e falshiv problem, da ne govorim 4e malko hora vhashtat goliama riba. Oba4e ako namotaesh vlaknoto s byrz hod na shpulata, vlaknoto ne se namotava hubavo i gubish mnogo razshtoianie pri hvyrlianeto. Vsi4ki makari za dale4no razshtoianie sa sys mnogo baven hod na shpulata. Kakto i da e. Tazi makara stava i za braid i za mono, az sym ia polzval i s dvete.
Hey man love your content but have you actually reviewed any of Lew's models? I have the Daiwa legalis, regal and exceler and a Lew's Xfinity combo that retails the same for the whole combo as those daiwa reels and quite honestly it's smoother, there's less play in the handle the drag has that satisfying reverberating sound and as far as I can tell it seems to cast farther. The only downside is it's much heavier but for the price it feels substantially better.
I have reviewed a couple of lews baitcasters. Their baitcasters are pretty decent, but the spinning reels are terrible. In my opinion even the most expensive $300 Lews spinning reel is inferior to a daiwa Legalis, at least for Ultralight fishing. If you are a bass angler and you talk about the bigger sizes... everything is heavier and finesse is not so easy to notice. But Lew's don't have any reels at any price that feel as good as Legalis. All Lews reels are heavy, have a lot of resistance, and heavy inertia. Also the rotors are slightly out of balance and when u spin them fast they don't feel as dead as a daiwa.
@@ifishcatfish Thanks for the feedback! Yeah I have a 3000 and I don't know anything about the engineering all I can say is its quieter and feels just as smooth if not smoother! This thing is impressive for being on a $50 combo but like I said I don't know anything about the mechanics maybe I got lucky and they just so happened to cut the gears perfectly on this one. I do agree it's definitely not for an ultralight tho.
@@montanahubler3780 reels of that price don't have cut gears. They are poured into mold, like jig heads. But i know they are smooth. But smooth is not enough for ultralight. U need light and low resistance and balance and other things
whatever i have. Never found one to be better than the other. I do have all the expensive ones from hedgehogstudio but i never found any amazing results from them
John Aspinall can u give me link? The old Legalist is completely different reel from the Legalis LT. The new LT is vastly suoerior. Not sure if that HA is the old one or some foreign model
@@ifishcatfish I can give you a link but its in German. www.ebay.de/itm/DAIWA-Legalis-2500HA-Angelrolle-mit-Frontbremse/232906615243?epid=1442130409&hash=item363a50e9cb:g:ImYAAOSw8Ftbg87W
@@ifishcatfishwww.ebay.de/itm/DAIWA-Legalis-2500HA-Angelrolle-mit-Frontbremse/232906615243?epid=1442130409&hash=item363a50e9cb:g:ImYAAOSw8Ftbg87W Sorry, its in German.
I have not seen this reel in USA. Judging by the weight, it is the old version. At 265 grams for a 2500 size reel - it is really heavy! The LT reels are so much lighter.. I am sure it is still a smooth reel, but if you will fish finesse, with ultralight rod, for perch, rud, that kind of stuff, i would get the new LT models. So much lighter and the gears are upgraded as well. If u plan on holding this in your hand all day long... this is just too heavy. My UL reels are 100 grams lighter than this.
well, very nice, as usual. my take is more than one reel for a designated purpose is a backup that is needed, and learning how to clean/service or finding someone else competent is a given. your tips are helping everyone!
I was fishing with a float and snagged the float. But i saw exactly where it fell, so if I didn't snag it, i would dive to get it. It was only 15 foot deep
Shimano Nasci 5000. I would buy it from ebay and buy the Japanese version with 4.7:1 gear ratio. I don't recommend a cheaper reel for saltwater, unless you are really good at cleaning reels after every session
i have fuego lt which is cost is higher than legalis....the body of fuego lt is too soft n its moving a lot when fight the fish...actually i really want to buy the legalis after i watch a few video from u about legalis...i just wanna ask is the body of legalis also soft n not tough just like fuego lt?which one is better the old or new legalis?hope u can help me..tq
the soft body was fixed in the new models. Make sure you buy a 2020 or 2021 model. They are made of different material and is thicker in the right spots
I have the exceler, the old one and the new LT. It has a screw in handle and extra seal, but has more resistance. The Legalis LT is so light to spin, same as a Shimano CI4+, which is incredible. The Exceler is heavier to spin. And so is the Tatula, and so is the Ballistic. Legalis LT is the best finesse reel on the market under 200$
I do not mean to be rude, but the exceler and the legalis are the exact same reel other than the screw in handle, so I don’t really know how you could say there is less resistance on the legalis
I never investigated the reason for this, but you can bet your house there is a little extra resistance. I have several Legalis and several Exceller, and the exceller always has a little more resistance. Maybe there is one extra seal somewhere. But if u watch more of my videos.. i don't know if there is anyone on youtube who is more focused on resistance than me. At least i haven't seen anyone. It has a little more resistance.
@@ifishcatfish sorry, I don't think so because this kind of zinc and others cheaper materials work so fine when the reel is brand new, but for short time or depending on frequently maintenance (I like to open, clean and lubricate, many people no). The price is good if compared to other models super overpriced, maybe doesn't justify cast zinc up to 50$ reel... not for big factories! And more... I'm not referring to the ultralight, so I ask to you how the size of main gear can change this perspective? Just my opinion, I appreciate every second in your channel!!
Its the best ultralight reel under 100$, with or without ur opinion. I am not gona write 3 pages here to defend that. Its on with me if u have different opinion. Daiwa BG has the same cast alloy gear as the Legalis, only bigger, and people catch monsters in saltwater with it. But u are afraid about the durability from fishing tiny crappie with it. I own legalis used for 3 years and whole its not like new its still the best ultralight under 100$
well, my daiwa legalis lt looks like a mess inside after 20h fishing.Complete waterintrution,rust on the bearing etc. Ive been fishing the lakes and coasts of sweden my whole life,never had a real that gave up as fast as this. Yep, i fished it in saltwater just to see if the rave reviews of other people doing so was true. Wasnt. This reel inhales water.
c Ek 100 people asked me if its good for saltwater. Just browse comments of my two videos. I said NO 100 times. The teel does not have a single seal. You are just wasting it. It is silly to use a reel with no seals and expect some kind of physics miracle. Did u at least like it brand new?
Very thorough review! I enjoyed seeing you open it up!
I like your video's because I learn how to take my reel apart and clean them.
That's a great tutorial, well done! Thanks for sharing man!
Daiwa has been killing it of late, they make the best spinning reels.
@Hooked In the UK the anti-reverse is a must! backwinding is common relying on the drag is unreliable at times it can cause fish loss. Your far more in control! I stopped buying Shimano's due to the fact they dropped the anti-reverse option. Never had any issues with water entering via the switch over bad weather conditions.
I've a little 3000 Legalis... But unfortunately, my opinion differ with you... I say SHIMANO... Like seriously my friend... Shimano is tops... ✌️😁
Great information,thank you.I am getting the Legalis 🎣
my favorite crappie reel from 0 to 300$
The Exceler is better.
Just dunk my ultralight Set up! Ugh, took me awhile also to get it out. Older Daiwa SS700, going to open her up soon. Great video!!
I love your videos man. Thanks. To me, simple is better, and the legalis one of them. Great review.
Thanks for taking the time to drop a comment my friend. See u around
I love my fuego and now I have stradic fl , there are both great reels.
Great reviews, thank you for uploading.
I like that you talk about start up resistance of these spinning reels.......many spinners are high gear ratio and hard to turn, they just don't feel as smooth. This concerns me greatly as I worm fish for bass in the States and start and stop the reel constantly.
Also, I think one reason the Daiwa reels are smoother is because they use two bearings on the pinion gear (Abu and Pflueger do also)....... many other manufacturers do not. Lately I've been using a Pflueger Patriarch.
The only thing that worries me about the $100.00 and down Daiwa LT reels is the lack of line roller bearing. I wonder if that would contribute to performance and line twist problems?
Bushings might be ok if they were metal like in the knob - but usually bushings in modern reels these days means plastic - and I think those are a big mistake....prone to quick wear and lots of maintenance. What do you think?
My Legalis LT is still in top shape, and I used it more than any other reel while panfishing this year. Check my crappie ninja video, and my bluegill videos. I never had problem with the line rollers on the LT reels. You have to be careful with the word 'Plastic'. Zaion is plastic. CI4+ is plastic. 13Fishing made a new reel without bearings, just plastic bushings. It casts better than most reels with bearings. Plastic today is very different that what it was 10 years ago. And all plastic bushing have one major advantage over metals - they do not rust. This is the reason plastic is often preferred over metal alternatives. I think the Legalis LT is a gem that the fishing community never discovered. It is really more pleasant to fish than the $200 Ballistic and Tatula.
On Shimano reels, all reels starting from Sahara have 2 bearings on the pinion. Sedona and lower do not. But sahara is pretty cheap. My single most watched video is my video on the shimano Sahara. I recommend you check it. Thanks for watching! Please share my channel with brothers in tackle!
I'm glad I'm not the only one I picked up 45 reels for over 2 hours last week ranging from 29.00 to 250.00 and this reel felt so damn good smooth and effortless I had to check the prick twice and take a picture for when I get paid to go grab it lol.
watch the next video i will release..
This is a precise reel. I love the crossfire- but this is smooth as silk. 6:2:1. For the money diawa has been hanging with shimano. Still have an early diawa from waaaaaay back. Love them all. But this lt 2500 is lazer smooth and effortless on retrieving.
Ultralight fishing under 100$ - Daiwa has no competition from any brand. Shimano has incredible high end reels, but has NOTHING under 100. All of this Sahara, Sedona, Nasci stuff is heavy like a rock. They are great solid reels, but more fore bass fishing and even bottom fishing. Just too heavy for UL fishing
Not boring good informational video thanks
i feel like i need to have several channels. Some of my subs are interested only by my gear reviews, and some only by carp fishing, and some only by catfishing. So my videos are always not gona be interesting to some.. Thanks for watching, my friend
@@ifishcatfish people can click on the videos they want to watch can't they?:) thank you for the vid
Would you recommend upgrading to line roller bearing and carbontex drag washers? I feel like it would take it to the next level. I love my stock legalis
what can u upgrade the roller bearing with?
I dont recommend using carbon washers in small reels. It is too harsh.
There is not much to upgrade in a stock legalis, other than shimming the knob maybe. What u could do is keep it clean, and service it in the winter
I know you love this reel but i got 2 of the revros lt and i really like them but i was wondering if its worth upgrading to this one in the future. Do you know the differences? Can you make a review on the revros lt in the future. From what i saw online i think the revros lt is one of the best budget reels around.
Do u mean the new Revros LT? There is only one difference between the Revros LT and Legalis LT. In the Revros they removed one of the bearings on the pinion gear and replaced it with bushing, to save 10 dollars. I don't like that. That is a very important bearing. However i have to say that when i test them in the store both reels feel the same to me. I think when brand new the bushing is just as smooth as the bearing, and the difference will show later. The Revros will lose smoothness sooner. I recommend the legalis over the revros, its worth the extra 10 bucks because it also looks nicer. But if you already got the revros - it is silly to change reels just for one bearing.
I ordered a legalis 2500 lt after seeing your review. When it arrived, I noticed the drag sound is almost non-existent. If I hold it next to me ear, I can just barely hear it. It doesn't sound at all like my exceler. I looked into shipping it back, but it's going to cost too much to make it worth doing. Is there any way to adjust the sound on it?
The drag sound mechanism of Legalis and Exceller is one and the same. If they don't sound the same, something is not right inside. However this particular drag sound mechanism is extremely durable, there is just nothing to break, because it runs inside the spool. It is possible that your spool is not all the way down. I would remove both spools on the two reels, and compare the drag clicker setup inside.
Victor I have one question what parts of the real do you apply Grease 2 and what parts do you apply oil to?
grease goes only on the teeth of the gears - main gear, pinion gear and locomotive gear. Also a little bit on the main shaft. Oil on all bearings. The rest of the reel should be dry, otherwise will collect dirt.
If u disassemble the spool, u need to put special drag grease on the carbon disks. Felt disks are hard to tell. Sometimes its oil, not grease. Good thing is it doesn't really matter what u do with the drag disks, just don't put much
Love your channel
Art Snow ha! :) these things make ur day.. pls share with a buddy. I have giveaways coming up.
I know all your videos are on ultralight and panfish, but I've got a bass question. I have an ultralight combo that I'm happy with, but I'd like to get a new bass set up. I was thinking of getting this reel in either 2500 or 3000 for bass fishing with 10 pound mono. What are your thoughts or do you have a different reel you'd recommend for bass?
This is ultralight reel. Frame is too thin and flexes a lot. Also gears are not that durable. Sahara ia just as smooth but with stronger frame and gears. Of course it is heavier than Legalis but for bass it is better
@@ifishcatfish Thank you.
I own one, and i am going peacock bass fishing end of the month. Really looking forward to using this reel. My baitcaster will take a rest
in florida? This is not a saltwater reel. Keep salt out. Get Fuego for that. Fuego is a saltwater Legalis.
@@ifishcatfish Oh no, i should that told you that i live in Suriname, South America. All my friends admires it.
Hope you’re having a great week so far, mister Victor! Could you please tell me if the spools are the same in the legalis lt2000s-p and lt2000s-xh? I understand the first has slower ratio and the weigh is the same,but not sure about the spool. Also in the first column of the tech specs on amazon the s-p has a 60 something number and the second has an 80 something. What is that? It’s in Japanese and I am trying to decide which one to buy …Thanks again 🙏
spools will be interchangeable but sometimes are not exactly the same. They will both work in either reel though
I broke a bg 2000 today and replaced it temporarily with the legalis lt and after watching this video I’m gonna treat it like a good real
My favorite reel, but be careful! If you broke the metal BG you will probably break the Legalis, which has a thin graphite body. Legalis LT is a ultralight reel .. even though it comes in bigger sizes it is still just ultralight
Yer it was just a mistake with the bg I was taking it off the rod and I dropped it! I love it , I will get it fixed . I like the weight of the legalis I fished it yesterday and today micro jigging with a miniature DAX jig got queen fish and some other small stuff it’s nice being so light !!👌
What are the 3 plastic washers for that come in the small zip lock bag with the Legalis? Thank you kindly!
start putting line on your spool. When u get half way - stop. Inspect the line lay. If the line is perfect - you got lucky. If there is a gap where the line doesn't reach the spool on one side, but on the other side of the spool there is a small bulge because of too much line - your spool is not seated properly and needs to be shimmed with these plastic shims. If the gap is on top - you need one of the plastic shims. The plastic shims are of different thickness. Try to put a shim that is as thick as your gap.
If the gap is on the bottom of the spool - you need to remove the spool and take out one of the plastic shims that are already there.
@@ifishcatfish Thank you kindly!
Do you know if the rubber thumb grip is removable? It has a shiny plastic piece over it that i tried to pry off but it didn't pop off like I was expecting.
W Stewart no. Cheap reels usually dont have removable knob. Did u break it? Why do u want to remove it? This is the most comfortsble knob i know..
My similar price point Shimano reels allow you to remove the thumb grip to service/lube that area. They can dry out or get dirt up in them. Daiwa told me it is removable but the customer service rep didn't seem very confident in what they were talking about. Mine feels like it has slop and some grit so i wanted to get it off to inspect @@ifishcatfish
well that's the rule. Which $60 shimano has removable knob?
Did u really talk to a daiwa rep? Or a sales associate. If you do remove it, send me a picture please. ifishcatfish@gmail.com It might be possible, but i was afraid to put more pressure because mine is fine.
i_fish I finally removed it. It pops off easy if you pry down between the silver cap and the rubber. The knob still does not come off - no screw. I did remove a thin c-clip between the knob and handle a\but that did not release it to remove. It just seems to be there to take up play. Apparently my knob just has too much play if others aren’t having this issue. Mine is the LT1000 size. It is very annoying as I hear it constantly and just reminds me poor fit. The Daiwa rep I spoke to said I could send it in for warranty service but mine doesn’t seem broken, just poor quality control.
How interesting are your vidéos !☺️
thank you for taking the time to drop a comment!
Is there any way to make the handle on Legalis LT tighter without cranking down on the cheap plastic cap?
no. Dont put too much force on that plastic cap or u will strip it. That's now the handle is. U cant shim this handle. It's really not bad, i have may legalis reels and they are all fine
Have you happened to get a chance to check out the 2021 Legalis? I have the one in this video and I'm thinking about getting the newest version
its not out yet. Will be out in april. I will get it when it comes out
Ok I’m definitely gonna get a legalis for my UL... what line do you use? I was gonna go lightest possible maybe braid . Would I be able to put 2-4 lb test on the 2500 or of I’m going that light with line should I get the 1000.
ben anthony patrick this reel is already super light, same weight as stradic ci4+ of same size. I dont like 1000 size reels because the spool is too small and the line is curly and u cant cast far because of spool drag and curly line. Not worth the saved few grams. If you use cheap line, 2-4 lb is ok. If u use fluoro, u can do 6 lb. The diameter should be between 0.16 and 0.20 mm. Braid doesnt cast super light weights well and its not smooth and has high wind drag and thats a problem with ul weights. Thanks for stopping by
Great video. I should have took my Abu spinning reel apart before I threw it away.
did u really throw away an Abu reel? They have amazing gears! Sometimes when dirty water dries out, the fine mud that was in the water 'bakes in' and sticks like glue. But there is no physical damage to the gears, they just need to be cleaned.
Yeah I did that was a few years ago. I just figured it was wore out. I bet I casted it 10 million time in the ten years I used it. But the symptoms of it sounded just like yours. Bet I could have got a few more years out of it. Have you tried any of the Cadence reels yet? I just ordered one To try out.
No, but i see them everywhere. It is chinese product, I expect it to be a good value but not comparable to daiwa or shimano in smoothness. Rods may be good though.
if u did cast 10 million times, don't regret u threw it away. I am talking if u flooded a new reel and it felt rough afterwards.
Hi brother I have a question I would like to ask you which reel would you recommend eirther the Daiwa legalis Lt or Shimano sedona fi in 1000 size which one better?
Legalis is much lighter and better for ultralight fishing. I don't recommend sedona. If you really want sedona spend the extra 10 dollars and get the Sahara.
@@ifishcatfish how about the Sedona 500 size it's 180g where legalis 1000 is 185g? Or you still think legalis better? Thanks for replying brother I really enjoyed all you videos very helpful :)
Legalis is MUCH better for ultralight fishing. Sedona is same as Sahara, but with one bearing on the pinion gear removed. That is important bearing. I always recommend Sahara over Sedona. But both reels are too heavy for ultralight fishing.
Nice vid i_fish. Just wondering if the main gear is machined aluminium after all? It looks like it’s a cast zinc gear in the video. I know they have a machined aluminium gear in the the more expensive reels of the lt series
Travis Wilson to myknowledge there is no difference in the gears of exceller and ballistic for example, or anything released in that batch. Daiwa has exact same text describing the gears of both reels ‘precision machined and polished’. If course i could be wrong but daiwa has the same description and i dont have anything else to suggest otherwise. The more expensive reels add bearings, screw un handle, magseal as well as a full range if other seals, but the digigear used is the same. Shimano uses the same approach in my findings- same hagane gears in cheap sahara and stradic ci4+ and even, believe it or not, in the nee shimano exsence ci4+. Only exotic reels have special surface treatments. My opinion and findings in my own reels, not official vendor position.
i_fish thanks for the reply. Daiwa actually uses a cast zinc main gear (zinc or zinc alloy) on their lower tier reels, has been for a long time. You can see the casting marks on the main gear in your video (the letters and numbers on the flat spot just inside the gear teeth), which indicates it cant be machined, it has to be cast. The legalis, exceler (and I assume the fuego) have this gearing. Daiwa's been using a cast zinc gear on their lower tier reels for a while now. Mid tier reels use a machined aluminium gear (7075 billet) like what's in the ballistic, caldia, td sol, certate etc. Saltigas, morethan branzino have the stronger bronze alloy. I wouldn't pay much attention to the marketing jargon daiwa uses to describe their gears, they're inconsistent in how they label their products and alot of the people and sales reps who work for daiwa couldn't tell you what's inside their reels. Also, cast zinc looks distinctively different to machined aluminium. The gear you're holding in your hand at 3:04 is cast zinc. It's cheaper and not as durable.
very interesting. I have the caldia, and I also have daiwa Vadel, both of which are magsealed, and I had to open them more than once to search for squeaks, but I could never tell the difference in gear material with these here. I want to learn how to identify these myself. Can you point me to a good article on the topic? Maybe I will open both of them again and compare.
i_fish one way to tell is the letters and numbers on the cast gear, theres no way they could be reproduced that way via any machining process, had to be a casting mold. All cast gears from daiwa I've seen have these. Also the appearance of cast zinc is a dull grey, and alot of the time you can see swirls, the finish isn't as uniform. On a machined aluminum gear, the metal will be bright and shiny, no swirls just a completely uniform finish, they even feel different. If you compare both gears side by side the difference is much more obvious. You'll know. Have a look at a video of a ballistic lt that's been dissassembled and you can see what the machined aluminium gear looks like, the difference can be seen viewing a video on a computer screen.
will do. Thanks for bringing this up. I will address in my next daiwa review. if u find a nice article that compares the two manufacturing processes please paste a link here
Is the Ninja any good ? Great videos cheers.
No.
Just got my new 2500d this morning from amazon and i noticed that there's a bit of a play on the handle and it makes a bit of a tapping sound when you reel it. Is this normal?
what other reels do u have? All reels have a little free play in the handle. My brand new $300 Luvias has free play in the handle. U can't completely avoid that. But if u have other reels - it shouldn't have more free play than your other reels.
As for the tapping noise.. that is more concerning. Again, no reel is completely silent (except the new Ryoga maybe) but your noise sounds more than normal. If you bought it from amazon it may be safer to just return and replace it. That's why we order from amazon..
@@ifishcatfish i am a beginner and this is going to be my first decent reel. 😁 please check the link. th-cam.com/video/1D7NTOsdIuM/w-d-xo.html. I am already planning to return it tomorrow but thought of asking you first.
free play looks normal but the noise is not. Tell them it is defective when u return it, otherwise they will sell it to someone else as new
@@ifishcatfish thank you very much! I'll send it back today.
I just bought the revros Lt 2000 for a great price. Have you tried it? If so how does it compare?
Revrods and Legalis is the same reel, they just removed one of the pinion gear support bearings from the Legalis. It is still pretty smooth and pretty good even with the platic bushing but i really like to know i have two bearings on the pinion gear so I usually recommend the Legalis LT or the Regal LT, because they have a full set of bearings. But it is still a good reel
@@ifishcatfish ok thank you!
How do you compare it to shimano Stradic or Sahara for offshore casting and light jigging?
Inferior. No sealing anywhere and the stradic is sealed. Sahara is not sealed but has a thick sturdy frame. The Legalis LT has a very soft frame with a lot of flex. No good for saltwater or any strong fish. It is the best ultralight reel on planet though- super light and super smooth and super low inertia
I jus ordered a daiwa legalis lt 1000 , cant wait to try i ultralite fishing for trout
where did u buy them from? Amazon?
Yes from amazon , where i live in cape breton , NS , Canada , they dont have these kinda reels so i always have to order them or i would have to drive 5 or 6 hrs to the nearest bass pro shop
What do you think of the size 1000 legalis lt, is it too small for anything other than true ultralight?
yes, it is a TRUE ultralight. What do you need it for?
Legalis LT is the best ultralight reel on the market, and if u need the 1000, get it, but you should consider the 2500. It weighs the same as a shimano stradic CI4+, which weighs nothing. I love ultralights but today there is no point of using a 1000 size reel, and get your line curly as a pig tail because of the small spool. The Legalis LT is so super light, that 2500 is what I would start with. That said, even the 2500 is not a good bass reel because of the soft frame. I caught a 10 lb carp with it and it wasnt a problem, and occasional bass will be fine, but it is not suited for that much stress regularly. If u want a reel in that price range that will sustain stress, look at the shimano sahara (i have great video on it)
@@ifishcatfishMan, many thanks for the reply! This is actually interesting, as it would be for finesse bass fishing with 8# mono for the moment. I am looking to upgrade a Daiwa Crossfire 2000, that i bought on clearance for my first reel - I didn't know much at all when I first started fishing. The Crossfire is really bulky and heavy for a low performer, so I figured anything would be better than that. So, not even a 2500?
its a bad idea for bass fishing, because of the severe hook sets that you guys use. The LT reels are made of really thin and soft plastic, that will flex on the hooksets. When it flexes, the gears get out of alignment just a little bit. Sahara is equally smooth and finesse, but made of much thicker and stronger plastic, and does not flex. But unfortunately that makes it heavier, and I do not like it for ultralights. I don't know, if you are gentle and use a soft rod, so the tip absorbs some of the stress... and don't fish very often... maybe. But bass folks usually use super stiff rods, trying to set the hook, which is horrible for finesse reels. U have to make the call. You will LOVE the Legalis LT , but only in the first 3 months. Then with more bass fishing it will start feeling rougher. Sahara will be heavier, but will last longer to bass fishing.
All other brands are junk right now. Dont tell anyone i said that, but nothing compares to these two reels. (from other brands)
@@ifishcatfish This is really good information. I can say that i am most certainly not your average bass angler. My start was in true utralight and have never been able to move past flexible rods, light lures and light wire hooks (for bass standards). I don't think i've ever set a hook like these folks do in the videos. Sweep and reel seems to work just fine. That said, this is the most helpful bits of information i've gotten on reels, maybe ever. Thank you very much!
Nice video👍👍 How do you think this 2500 reel would perform on a egi (squid) rod? I just bought a Rovex squid specialist rod and was considering putting this reel on it.
Which one are you going to choose compared to Exceler lt for fresh water?
exceller and legalis is exactly the same reel. Exceler has screw in handle and costs 10 bucks more. It doesn't matter which one u get.
@@ifishcatfish oh~really? Thanks a lot.
What about the lt Regal???I order one 3 days ago an I wich I seen this video before buying it I hope I didn't made a mistake a $60.00 mistake hope you know something about the Daiwa regal✌🏾💪🏽
i have a video comparing regal to legalis
@@ifishcatfish 👍🏾
The reverse clutch roller-bearing is not supposed to be oiled. If you use the reel in colder temperature it will reverse when you try to hook-up a fish. I had to strip-down my daiwa fuego again and clean all the oil from the roller-bearing.
Anton Milanov yeah, that was my first knowledge on the issue, but turns out it is ok to oil. Not only oild, but some brand new reels come with grease on the AR-B. I use a special oil that actually dries out and does not collect dust and is not affected by tempersture
Anton Milanov oil on video is tsi-321. Check it out. Interesting product. I promise you its fine on arb
I will check it out. You should test your reel, leave it in the fridge for 30 min or so and after try to reel and stop quickly to see if it'd reverse.
Anton Milanov i like that! I will do that! Maybe even make a video if it slips! Would be fun!
I know you're tired of Legalis questions but what carbon drag strip you use for replacement. I have a 1000 & 2500. Thanks
careful replacing felt with carbon. It will feel rougher. Shimano vanquish costs $450 and still comes with felt in the small models. I would buy felt from daiwa directly if i had to replace drag disks. I would not put carbon in these small reels. Better yet buy the whole spool from europe for $20. Comes with carbon. Cheaper than buying the felt alone from daiwa probably.
www.smoothdrag.com/
i buy carbon from here. but don't recommend for these reels
www.waveinn.com/nautical-fishing/daiwa-legalis-17-lt-1000dxh/137195795/p?id_producte=8857982&country=us&gclid=CjwKCAjw7e_0BRB7EiwAlH-goDrvYzJpitaC9_DsL4wmOFGpyBlcVK4KVIa4NDz2o5YKV41dQfeYOhoCfq8QAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
@@ifishcatfish thank you. I will take your advice and use felt or leave it alone. Too much time in my hand because of Corona virus
on the link from europe i mean the whole spool comes with drag disks. They will be the original drag disks which are felt. I have 5 of these spools in all kinds of sizes. U can get other colors too. Remember the spools of legalis and exceller are same...
hi..i want to place a reel knob..can you tell me how to remave the handle it already has????there are no screws..daiwa legalis lt 2500xh.
the knob is not attached with a screw and not replace-able. You would have to buy entire handle from daiwa. Or you have to take it to a shop that has these kind of tools. Too expensive for such cheap reel. I love the knob though - why do u want to replace it, if u don't mind me asking?
I really like the big round one (handle knob..)I bought one for shimano sedona and I want to replace this one to..
interesting. I made opposite replacements. I had daiwa Vadel reels that I loved but could not stand the handles, and replaced them with the slim daiwa handles. I put those on some reels i don't use.. Thanks for watching and I hope to see you around!
Thanks for getting in trouble to answer..
what tool set u got? want to get a set for my bg
mogtrader8 i dont have a special tool set. But u will need some of those star screw drivers. Also something like a long needle to remove that tiny clip.
i_fish where to buy
mogtrader8 i would go to menards or home depot with my reel in a bag, and make sure the tool fits good.
Does Work it well with braid or only monofil cord?
Vsi4ki maraki rabotiat s braid. Njama takova neshto kato makara za braid ili makara za mono. Tiq gluposti deto gi slagat na shpulata gi izmisliha za hora koito ne mogat da vyrjat svesten vyzel na shpulata i posle braid-a se plyzga. Ako mojesh da vyrjesh hubav vyzel - vsi4ki makari sa za braid. Ako ne mojesh - sloji 3 santa tikso otdolu. No nai dobre s hubav vyzel.
chuval sum che makarite na shimano v niskiqm klas ne rabotqt dobre s braid
vsi4ki makari rabotiat s braid. Problemite sa 4e braid-a se plyzga po shpulata ako ne napravish hubav vyzel. Njakoi makari namotavat kordata s po byrz hod na shpulata za da ne moje braida da se vpiva nadylvoko kato vhanesh goliama riba. Tova syshto e falshiv problem, da ne govorim 4e malko hora vhashtat goliama riba. Oba4e ako namotaesh vlaknoto s byrz hod na shpulata, vlaknoto ne se namotava hubavo i gubish mnogo razshtoianie pri hvyrlianeto. Vsi4ki makari za dale4no razshtoianie sa sys mnogo baven hod na shpulata. Kakto i da e. Tazi makara stava i za braid i za mono, az sym ia polzval i s dvete.
@@ifishcatfish Super blagodarq za otgovora
Hey man love your content but have you actually reviewed any of Lew's models? I have the Daiwa legalis, regal and exceler and a Lew's Xfinity combo that retails the same for the whole combo as those daiwa reels and quite honestly it's smoother, there's less play in the handle the drag has that satisfying reverberating sound and as far as I can tell it seems to cast farther. The only downside is it's much heavier but for the price it feels substantially better.
I have reviewed a couple of lews baitcasters. Their baitcasters are pretty decent, but the spinning reels are terrible. In my opinion even the most expensive $300 Lews spinning reel is inferior to a daiwa Legalis, at least for Ultralight fishing. If you are a bass angler and you talk about the bigger sizes... everything is heavier and finesse is not so easy to notice. But Lew's don't have any reels at any price that feel as good as Legalis. All Lews reels are heavy, have a lot of resistance, and heavy inertia. Also the rotors are slightly out of balance and when u spin them fast they don't feel as dead as a daiwa.
@@ifishcatfish Thanks for the feedback! Yeah I have a 3000 and I don't know anything about the engineering all I can say is its quieter and feels just as smooth if not smoother! This thing is impressive for being on a $50 combo but like I said I don't know anything about the mechanics maybe I got lucky and they just so happened to cut the gears perfectly on this one. I do agree it's definitely not for an ultralight tho.
@@montanahubler3780 reels of that price don't have cut gears. They are poured into mold, like jig heads. But i know they are smooth. But smooth is not enough for ultralight. U need light and low resistance and balance and other things
I have 4 legalis reels for the exact reason you state
thank you for taking the time to write that. Feels good to find some confirmation of my opinions.
What you put in the reel? Braid? Or flourocarbon?
hello, is daiwa legalis LT 2500 good for braid ?
All reels are good for braid. Thats marketing bs. Show me one reel in the world that cannot work with braid!
thanks for informasion...
What oil and grease did you use?
whatever i have. Never found one to be better than the other. I do have all the expensive ones from hedgehogstudio but i never found any amazing results from them
Any idea what the difference to the Legalis 2500HA is? Hard body?
John Aspinall can u give me link? The old Legalist is completely different reel from the Legalis LT. The new LT is vastly suoerior. Not sure if that HA is the old one or some foreign model
@@ifishcatfish I can give you a link but its in German. www.ebay.de/itm/DAIWA-Legalis-2500HA-Angelrolle-mit-Frontbremse/232906615243?epid=1442130409&hash=item363a50e9cb:g:ImYAAOSw8Ftbg87W
@@ifishcatfishwww.ebay.de/itm/DAIWA-Legalis-2500HA-Angelrolle-mit-Frontbremse/232906615243?epid=1442130409&hash=item363a50e9cb:g:ImYAAOSw8Ftbg87W Sorry, its in German.
I have not seen this reel in USA. Judging by the weight, it is the old version. At 265 grams for a 2500 size reel - it is really heavy! The LT reels are so much lighter.. I am sure it is still a smooth reel, but if you will fish finesse, with ultralight rod, for perch, rud, that kind of stuff, i would get the new LT models. So much lighter and the gears are upgraded as well. If u plan on holding this in your hand all day long... this is just too heavy. My UL reels are 100 grams lighter than this.
@@ifishcatfish Will it also handle Walleye and Pike? Or is the Sahara a better allrounder?
well, very nice, as usual. my take is more than one reel for a designated purpose is a backup that is needed, and learning how to clean/service or finding someone else competent is a given. your tips are helping everyone!
i appreciate that!
There is two models ( daiwa legalis D and legalis CS )
SO WHICH MODEL IS BETTER PLS AND WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE
too tale for that question. This was the 2017 model. They released another model in 2020 and now another in 2023. You can watch those videos instead
How did you even get it back after dropping it on the seabed
I was fishing with a float and snagged the float. But i saw exactly where it fell, so if I didn't snag it, i would dive to get it. It was only 15 foot deep
@@ifishcatfish ohhh I see , have you heard of the new legalis Lt ? It's blue
yeah, im trying to get one early. Otherwise it comes out in April, i think
can you recommend me the best reel for saltwater.. size 5000 and chip😅
thank youuuu
Shimano Nasci 5000. I would buy it from ebay and buy the Japanese version with 4.7:1 gear ratio. I don't recommend a cheaper reel for saltwater, unless you are really good at cleaning reels after every session
shimano nasci 5000 better than daiwa BG 5000 ??
Mamat Fadzlee bg is also ok. I lersonally prefer Nasci though. Smoother.
ouhhhhh okayyy.. thank youuu☺️
i have fuego lt which is cost is higher than legalis....the body of fuego lt is too soft n its moving a lot when fight the fish...actually i really want to buy the legalis after i watch a few video from u about legalis...i just wanna ask is the body of legalis also soft n not tough just like fuego lt?which one is better the old or new legalis?hope u can help me..tq
the soft body was fixed in the new models. Make sure you buy a 2020 or 2021 model. They are made of different material and is thicker in the right spots
thank you sir...what about the frame of new revros lt ex?the frame also more rigid and solid right?
@@redzuanmohd1604 yes
Have you tried the exceler
I have the exceler, the old one and the new LT. It has a screw in handle and extra seal, but has more resistance. The Legalis LT is so light to spin, same as a Shimano CI4+, which is incredible. The Exceler is heavier to spin. And so is the Tatula, and so is the Ballistic. Legalis LT is the best finesse reel on the market under 200$
i_fish Thx that’s a lot of great info I have the older Sahara 4000 barely used most likely sell it
why is your legalis handle black? should be gold?
exceller is with gold. U got them confused
@@ifishcatfish japanese market is gold handle and shinier frame.
@@manzfishing6531 well these are all 5 year old reels now... who remembers what it was
Big ups
Can ı use legalis lt on saltwater ?
murat aydoğdu no. It has no seals anywhere.
oky so exeler ?
no. Fuego or Nasci. Nasci is better.
thank u
NO.
I do not mean to be rude, but the exceler and the legalis are the exact same reel other than the screw in handle, so I don’t really know how you could say there is less resistance on the legalis
I never investigated the reason for this, but you can bet your house there is a little extra resistance. I have several Legalis and several Exceller, and the exceller always has a little more resistance. Maybe there is one extra seal somewhere. But if u watch more of my videos.. i don't know if there is anyone on youtube who is more focused on resistance than me. At least i haven't seen anyone. It has a little more resistance.
i_fish okay. Is that a bad thing? (Having slightly more resistance)
i_fish yeah makes sense thank you. For a bass/salmon setup, I got the exceler 2500. We’ll see how it plays out
Legalis LT or BG?
BG is bottom fishing reel. Legalis LT is finesse reel for ultralight fishing. If u need size 3000 or bigger, get BG. If less than 3000 get legalis
Main gear is cast zinc not aluminum, isn't it?
yes, cast zinc alloy
@@ifishcatfish not good, man!! Overpriced reel? thank you
underpriced. This is the best ultralight reel under 100$. No competition
@@ifishcatfish sorry, I don't think so because this kind of zinc and others cheaper materials work so fine when the reel is brand new, but for short time or depending on frequently maintenance (I like to open, clean and lubricate, many people no). The price is good if compared to other models super overpriced, maybe doesn't justify cast zinc up to 50$ reel... not for big factories!
And more... I'm not referring to the ultralight, so I ask to you how the size of main gear can change this perspective?
Just my opinion, I appreciate every second in your channel!!
Its the best ultralight reel under 100$, with or without ur opinion. I am not gona write 3 pages here to defend that. Its on with me if u have different opinion. Daiwa BG has the same cast alloy gear as the Legalis, only bigger, and people catch monsters in saltwater with it. But u are afraid about the durability from fishing tiny crappie with it. I own legalis used for 3 years and whole its not like new its still the best ultralight under 100$
number 1 enemy of the magseal 😂😂😂
thats right!
well, my daiwa legalis lt looks like a mess inside after 20h fishing.Complete waterintrution,rust on the bearing etc. Ive been fishing the lakes and coasts of sweden my whole life,never had a real that gave up as fast as this. Yep, i fished it in saltwater just to see if the rave reviews of other people doing so was true. Wasnt. This reel inhales water.
c Ek 100 people asked me if its good for saltwater. Just browse comments of my two videos. I said NO 100 times. The teel does not have a single seal. You are just wasting it. It is silly to use a reel with no seals and expect some kind of physics miracle. Did u at least like it brand new?
i can never have the pations to clean the reals
I thought you were a mechanic! : ) Very interesting.. : )
that dont mean i like working on my own stuff :P
It stuck because it has too little grease and oil.
Ok
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@@ifishcatfish
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privet iz Chicago! : )
You just killed a small animal
ok, im gona ask - How?