Building a Competition-Level Methanol Tillotson 288cc Racing Engine + Rascal GT Mini Bike
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I'm pushing 60 in a year or so, and there was no such thing as assembly lube back in my day, I assembled with gear oil, and sparingly at that.
Ahhh, the days of building minibike donks under a 45w globe that was swinging in the wind. You blokes take my memories back to a different era, but the enjoyment is all the same...
I never had a minibike or a gokart. For me it was a '66 Datsun pickup. I still have a black line in my knuckle were a gash, from a slipped wrench, got filled with grease and never washed properly. The wound eventually healed and it's not a grease tattoo
@@patrickfreeman8257 I take it you know the feeling of the swinging globe though, lead light under the bonnet was always a challenge too, I can still hear my Dad doing his chew at me for "holding the bleed'n light wrong".
I bet that was a stinker
Next weeks video will be action packed!! What’d y’all think of the teaser?
I love it, being a small engine kid at a whopping 14 years old I really cannot wait to do things that you guys do when I’m older. As always, thanks for the inspiration. My small engine career.
You should "BLUE" the frame. Or black oxide. If you blue the frame you can call it "The Shotgun". Maybe do a bunch of bullet stuff to it. Valve caps, handgrips, revolver style clutch, gas cap, etc.
I loved it, I’ve been a fan since you were in your dad’s garage and the C10 was just a future fantasy. I love everything you guys do. I’d love to see y’all build a 4wd off-road kart with front and rear motors that looks a lot more cool than the old 4 motor go cart. Much love guys
Where's Charles
Boring...
Nice hexagons on that frame! GHPC approves.
Kinda helps to distract from the booger welds… Come on man!
@@bradgrunwald4059 Yeah rough. The boys say they sand the frames before a build and I can see why.
I thought the same thing
loll
charles woulda loved this, gonna miss him; hope he aint gone for good, and can return for some videos in the future, and wish the best for him. long beds an mini bikes!
What happened? I missed it
@@Fungusamnguss He moved his growing family closer to the grandparents. Left on great terms but for important reasons.
3:00 Yes, every half-ounce counts. That's why I always roll commando when I'm racing. Gives me that cometitive edge.
Everything is a hammer. Unless its a screwdriver. Then its a pry bar.
The Bearded Mechanic
This Old Man from Washington NC always enjoying your videos 👍. 3 am with my coffee ☕. Still saying y'all are one of the best channels on TH-cam ❤️. Looking forward to to the next. 🛵🧔💝💝
Dejavu. I thought I watched John build that engine already. Impressed with the way he's adapted to mechanical stuff from being the business man. John's a good fit with Ike. Our dynamic duo is missing their D'Artagnan, in Charles, but it's great to see them soldiering on.
We do need Charles around. I miss him.
I think you'd be surprised how much pressure the dipper slapping the oil will make.
John, I always use STP for assembly's because it does not clog and it should be used in the engine anyway. Dave Bronson
Something helpful is make a cut away side cover so you can visually look at the movement when you get everything located
Don't wanna give up low end power for high end? How 'bout two carbs? One small carb and a larger on on a progressive linkage? Might make a fun (but possibly frustrating) project for the future. Two small carbs should do the trick, if one opens before the other. Figure it out so the rest of us don't have to lol ❤
While I LOVE what you’re doing with the lightweight chassis, PLEASE tell me what and when you are going to do something with the Opel GT?!?!?!…hence Cars and Cameras!! I love the Opel GT!!
They posted something about it on their Pay channel,and we don't get it.
hey this stuff is great, but i'd rly like to see some more gocart content, (like track stuff)!
Assembly lube liquifies with heat, just like grease etc. then blends with the oil so it can be drained after break in, if you’re worried about thickness or globs use comp cams cam lube, it’s thinner but sticky enough to help on that first dry start , the piston pin being raised and fewer rings used because the rod length was increased, so in order to keep the same piston height and crank clearance something has to change. Same as using a long rod on a stroker V8 build , piston ends up being shorter wrist pin is a lot higher into the ring land areas needing smaller ( thinner) or less rings
You can use those type of Wood nut insert things like youre using them, you'd have to pop a cpl staples and install them on the INSIDE of the seat under the foam & re-staple or they'll just fall out that way you showed in the video
Should use a Acorn nut on the Tank Bolts
So glad to see you put the rear pegs on this bike. They both look so awesome too. 👍👍
I like to use engine oil for the small tilton when I'm doing a custom build or sometimes I use the assembly lube they both have their drawbacks but whatever works use it😊
Nicely done boys!
Let’s take a minute to appreciate Scott’s moustache. 😂
Great build and great vidya fellas! See you on the next one!
Thanks buddy! I worked hard to achieve it!
Was gonna say lol. Looks like if alexis mincolla from 3teeth grew up in the midwest
@@PsychoticAnarchist69hell yeah dude!
I love when y’all build engines
It's really cool to have watched you guys as long as I have when you started you didn't have much to work with but yet you made it work and now you have a full shop all your tools and you're still coming up with amazing videos every week I really enjoy you guys
I bet I could really mow some grass with that
It's nice to see how far you guys came especially when it comes to your shop I wish I had a shop to start with I have a few projects that need to get done but sometimes it takes help instead of being kicked when you are down
John I can tell you've learned a lot and I want to express how much throughout the years that I've been watching you from the very beginning at your parents house tearing up the yard and them giving you a bunch of crap about that you have excelled and you're actually surprising me with your interest in creating an engine properly assembled to perform to optimum capacity!
Lite weight = FAST!!! Full speed ahead 😊
I remember a outboard in the 60/80 s. When getting older centrifugal force/bearing clearance made the rod go wider thus smashing the cranckcase.
Ike is absolutely right.
Use the assembly lube, and change the oil after first heat-up of the motor. The assembly lube will break down and mix with the motor oil very quickly as the heat lowers the viscosity of the lube.
Sweet. Looking forward to seeing this thing haul.
The foreshadowing and the little sneak peek has me really nervous about next week’s video but I’m still a little excited and hopeful that it is not catastrophic! 😬
On certain engines I like to use assembly lube. But I especially like to use Lucas stabilizer on bearings. Like this I'd rub a drop into the bearing surfaces. Then apply a couple drops of engine oil on the bearing, especially on cam lobes if I don't have the special stuff supplied with new cams. The thick and tacky stuff in the metal kinda sealing the journal and bearing surfaces. Then a thin oil as the lubrication. On cylinders I rub in Lucas, then oil on the rings. And oil pumps I like to fill with Lucas. Because it instantly has oil pressure soon as the pump turns Even though the Lucas runs out, it is still on the surfaces. And instantly makes pressure even years later! And Lucas seems to stick on metal longer than oil to protect the metal from rust! ✌️
Y'all aligning yourselves with Pauls karts was the best business move y'all ever made. His stuff makes big power. He is basically applying a race car program to these small engines. He used to make fun of people like us struggling with how to improve performance on these small engines until he convinced us to do it like a real 1:1 race car program
Paul's karts build some badass pieces for sure
Paul Crafton, definitely NOT Paul's Karts lol
@@WyFoster I realized this after I finished the video but like I said I still prefer Paul's karts over gps
Paul karts is a scammer and sells junk
@@BenkosmeBuildz You said it not me
That last racing scene with the semi truck/trailer on the right hand side. Someone is going to die
I used Lucas oil stabilizer. Just a nice thick oil that thins out with the heat of it running
HA! "we might lose the shop" !! Angelo would be proud!
Tony Angelo
They're going to lose the seat with those styles of captive nuts they're using, and the fasteners take torque Lube not assembly Lube..
@@Hndle-RapselHonda When in reality there is zero problem with either the nuts or the lube. Hand flapping at its finest.
Flathead engine on that Frame would be sick !
assembly lube vs engine oil doesn't really matter for these; the lube will protect the bearing until it dissolves in the oil naturally coming to it. In a pressurized bearing assembly lube is necessary if you let it sit any after assembly.
Ahh man I can’t wait till next epi 🔥🔥🔥
I use assembly lube to help hold the lifters up in place, on the cam lobes, and on the pushrod tips. That's it. The rod bearings, crank bearings, etc. get engine oil.
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What I use for assembly and first run/break in really depends on the application, 2 stroke assembly would be quite a bit different than 4 stroke for assembly lubes but usually go by what's commonly recommended in service manuals.
May forget a few things but generally I'll use assembly lube for valvetrain (minus cam lobes/carriers), (some)Needle Bearings/wristpins.
Use either motor or 2t oil for cylinder bore, rings, cam/crank journals or bearing/carriers (also pushrods when applicable).
Seals, O-rings, ball-bearings, (some) needle bearings I use high temp silicone grease or either motor, trans, or 2cycle oil depending on the type of and purpose of the seal/bearing.
Ethan would approve the hexagons on the chassis 👌premium lol
LOL... I was thinking the same thing when I saw them.
If you're worried about paint weighing too much, be sure to take a fat dump before each test ride.
Nah but seriously, love your guys' content.
Petition to get Charles back 👇
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You guys should run a little 2 stroke oil in the fuel to keep the rings lubed, the meth washes the oil off pretty good. A 200 to 1 mix makes a big difference
I wanna see you take this bike to the Hood where the Top Mini Bike no prep drags are held, and run it against true street Mini Bikes . Down South they run good EDIT: 35:15 oh yeah !
Yeah, them guys rip! Also some of the best trash talk you’ll find anywhere 😂
If you have a stroked crank I'm pretty sure you would have to move the wrist pin up in the piston . There for the short piston top with just enough room for the compression ring and the oiling rings.
I assemble every engine I build with the kart racing oil that I plan on using because most kart racing oils don't mix only permatex assembly lube on the rod and wrist pin
The amount of Fast and Furious references 🤣
The bikes looking great guys!😊😊
ThI thing about assembly lube is soon as it gets warm it thins out so it won’t clog oil passages so it’ll be fine. 🤙🏻
You want a very light coat of a high ZDDP oil. You can use high zddp oil if you want for a very short break in, but after that you want a regular oil, as zddp increases friction loses. Even with that oil on assembly you do not want to soak the parts or dip them. The only reason to use assembly lube is for engines that are not getting run shortly after assembly. If it’s going to sit a month or more assembly lube will do better at staying between the surfaces.
When using those steel hub flywheels hit em with an impact to set em on the taper then torque it
i miss your random builds that everyone can afford.
If you're going to leave the frame bare, you should coat it with some sharkhide, you can rub it on so no need for sprayers, etc, thats unless you want to spray it. I use it all the time, especially on rollbars. You're not putting heavy coats of paint on it, its just a thin glaze.
You can protect all kinds of raw metals with it.
I use maxima it smells like red hots it’s very very easy to use and works perfectly for my uses. I highly recommend.
It smells like cinnamon
Now you need to do a dirt drag build once this is wrapped up. 🤣
Lucas Oil stabilizer is the perfect assembly lube for anything
T nuts will not work in that situation as the part that holds the pressure is supposed to be on the other side of the plywood
What I've been told by engine builders is, don't use assembly lube, use the oil that you intend to run. Assembly lube to them never comes off and so it adds a thick film so the oil doesn't get to that area where it needs to. I've never tried myself so I don't have much of an opinion, but I do take their experiences to heart too.
I use Lucas Oil Stabilizer for engine assembly
put a key in the crank side slide on a socket that fits hold with a breaker bar and torque to your hearts concent
I don't think it's a bad thing to use assembly lube. Cause once it gets hot. It basically turns into oil anyway.
I personally use STP oil Treatment for my assembly's.
I normally use 10w 40 mineral based break in oil when I build an engine for the first time and I have never had any problems at all
Got all the fatf references.
Ive been watching y'all since 2007. Im so glad y'all are doing ok in 2024. Im nearly 55 years old and not doing so good, about to lose my home and everything ive ever owned in now less than 30 days. I haven't given up yet but the pressure is almost more than this old ticker can take. I may die in the next 3jsh weeks or i may survive. If i live thru this i hope y'all will pray for me.
Sorry to hear. Contrary to what a lot of politicians claim, times are tough. Prayers that things improve for you. God bless😢😢😢
The short piston is where your power is coming from seems a copy from Honda CRF modern engines They also have the pancake piston as i call give extremely Rpms on a 4 stroke. back in the 70s in my MX days I would cut my piston shirts on my dads lathe and my bike was always a bit faster than my buddys.
Torque Test Channel recently put out a video on different torque wrench variables like extensions, oil/no oil, etc. Oiling threads drastically changes the amount of torque being applied to them, Ike says hes torquing to 25 but that real value is probably 2-3 times higher.
Thank goodness Ike said the nuts go in the wooden seat the other way. I was screaming at my phone. Lol
yes i was waiting all day for a vid
Assembly lube isnt going to "clog" the dipper hole. Its making a bunch of pressure with that dipper and on top of that as soon as there is any temperature in the motor its melting anyway.
I've personally seen it wipe a set of bearings when someone went crazy with it. I use the oil the engine is going to run with.
I want Charles back. It's not the same without him.
Where has he Ben ?
Charles and chuck!!!
We all do😢
Miss him too.❤
No. He can stay gone aslong as John doesn’t overly explain shit like a nasa project this is fine. Charles was awkward and annoying. Tried to have his spotlight all the time
9:25 Heavyweight nondetergent engine oil with a zinc additive for assembly since you have solid lifters and an aggressive cam profile.
I always make sure I don't eat at least 12 hours before a race but I do drink a strong cup of coffee morning of and take a dump and I figure I save a good 5lbs
How have you not invested in a digital torque wrench? Great content guys keep making cool rigs!
I use lubriplate, melts instantly and will last years
Another awesome video Whoop!
Guys I used to race go carts back in the day and I made a oil mix of my own to run in my menthol engines use seven quarts of your choice of oil and add one quart of dura lube that should help remedy the milkshake if it doesn’t you got way to much ring gap.
Hey Go Power Sports, we're going to need a source for dual carb manifolds. Now's the time for R&R.
2 ring pistons are mainly about less friction. Grinding on rod dipper might be about friction also
no wedge, get some soft rope put it down spark plug hole .
We call that using your calibrated elbow for that style of torque measuring
What a beast.
I make my own assembly lube. Just buy some really thick graphite grease and mix freely with your engine run-in oil of choice. That way you can get any viscosity that you want and you know it will blend nicely with the run-in oil.
Edit: Oh and a bit of graphite grease mixed with a little chainsaw oil makes a very nice torque lubricant for headbolts, studs and stuff like that. Also smells real nice.
18:55 what you don’t want is the silicone to go in the cylinder you don’t want silicone on the fire ring at all.
"Axe" Ike how to install steering head bushings 😊
I wish I had documented my engine build… Briggs and Stratton 212 with a predator 212 stage 2, 2-1 ratio rockers, long throw crank, short connecting rod cupped piston dual bearing billet side cover and a torque converter.. not sure though if it will run and how it will preform
You guys really need one of those pneumatic rotary carbide deburing tools. It's like a mini air powered router that has a small carbide bit. They're really inexpensive for how absolutely phenomenal they work.
1/8" pencil grinder
I only use assembly lube for lifters push rods and cam bearings use oil for the rest
Guys i hate to whinge but this video is almost identical to a dozen previous videos and very similar to dozens of other videos is this CC new direction? I hope I'm the only one disappointed this ain't for me, having said that I was dam proud when you got 2 world records on these types of builds, but I'll admit maybe I don't like change the best thing ever on the channel was watching John go from a Chubby school boy into a male model that's unrepeatable wish you guys all the best as you didn't start TH-cam for me, you have to do you and I respect that
Tbh it’s very repetitive. Charles was terrible and awkward. Attention seeker. The builds suck. Same shit different smell scenario. It seems they have figured out they can get by with little to no effort and views.
I only watched because of their crazy builds but now I watch grind hard plumbing instead since they actually know what they are talking about 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Do you know what I use bar and chain for chainsaw? It’s not grease but it’s not oil and it takes a very light film. Think about it.
288 Cc of furry would have been cooler.
But adding a fursuit would have increased drag substantially:)
Your new camera is way better! Production value is much higher on this video.
Total Seal Quick Seat and Redline Assembly Lube after
Yawl have come so far. Proud fan up in here. Let's go. I have no doubt you can hit that goal guys. Fire it up!
Motor oil just because that engine doesn’t have a oil pump.
Assembly lube should melt away with heat and mix with the oil. Also something seems like it's balanced correctly
There your guys next shirt ever once counts drag race mode with a picture of the gmdrag bike with drag tree and lil smoke coming off the back tire