Great News that you will be doing a full video series on the 618. Vintage lathes are not in good supply in Texas so I finally settled on a Chinese made 10/22” lathe sold by Precision Matthews. I also purchased from Mr Pete the video series for the South Bend lathe (8” I believe) which is kind of equivalent to my PM 10/22. Great video series by Mr Pete that really helped get me up and running with my lathe. Any hobby machinist who already owns or is considering buying an import mini lathe would I know benefit from the 618 series Mr Pete will be offering in the future. John from San Antonio
Great video Mr Pete. At 20:50 on the photo of the catalogue page, it mentions the Atlas 612, the smaller brother of the 618, which is the lathe I have. They never get a mention in videos, but they are essentially a cut down version of the 618, same parts and all, just a shorter bed. This makes them very rigid when firmly fixed down and great for small items in suitable materials, and mine takes up very little room in my restricted workshop space. I’ve very much enjoyed your videos on the 618, as they are entirely relevant to my 612 and I look forward to many more to come. Many thanks for all your insights and advice. Best wishes, Gerry (UK)
Good Morning from Duluth! My 21400 lathe was made in the late 60’s and has 10tpi threads. I’ve read that the switch from 8 to 10 happened when they switched the spindle bearings from ball to tapered roller.
Mornin' Mr. Pete! I love my 1st period shop class. I live in Racine, WI which is the home of J.I. Case, Johnson's Wax, In-Sink-Erator, Hamilton Beach, Western Printing, (Remember Big Little Books?) and many many others. In the '70s I worked at a factory called Haban Mfg. where we made mowers, snow throwers, and other similar implements. Sometimes during a run of snow throwers for example, a portion of the run would be painted a different color and labeled "Craftsman". I'm pretty sure Sears never really produced anything of its own. They simply contracted companies like Haban and Atlas to apply the Craftsman name to existing products. Just a bit of manufacturing era trivia. Thanks for posting sir. You make 'em, I'll watch 'em.
You are correct in that Sears purchased their products by contract from manufactures. They did however, steal many product patten rights before the item could be patterned.
I had a good friend in Korea from Wisconsin. We slept in the same tent. His home back home at the time was 11 Center St. Racine, WS. I searched for but never was able to find him after service.
Great video Mr Pete! As far as the motor pulley, all you need is the smaller size. I have never used the larger one. All the early lathe spindles that had bronze bearings were originally 1 inch 8 thread. They changed to 1 inch 10 threads when they went to the Timkin bearings. According to the drawings both spindles are the same, so someone probably changed the spindle for some reason. If you have all the bell crank parts, I have repaired them. I finish both sides of the break drill and tap the ends for a 3mm screw. Cut the head off the screw, and use it as all thread. If needed you can make a spacer collar from aluminum. Then dry fit it and adjust the face length to get everything lined up. Then use green permanent locktite on the parts. My repairs have lasted over 4 years. I actually made mine just a bit larger with a bit longer spacer.
Wow... I had totally forgot about the Atlas heavy 10, till you showed it again. Obvousely you have no choice but pick up the lathe bed and reassemble it for resale. Far as any restoration of it, that's up to you. Thank Mr. Pete.
Never knew you could smoke 'caffeine' but hey, no judgement it's 2024. Learning how to use my Atlas 618 was how I found you and your excellent tutelage for machines and life. It has given great service for professional clock repair as well as countless tools, machines, vehicles etc. Thanks for your big part in all that.
I don't have details about the Atlas, but this is what I know about the Craftsman: The 8 vs. 10 TPI headstocks is a year change thing, there was also a 3/4"-16TPI version. The spindle on the first iteration was a 3/4"-16 with a #1 morse taper bore for 1937 and '38, there weren't many made and they didn't have a back gear so they were 8 speed machines. In 1939 they got the back gear and went to the 1"-8 spindle with the #2 bore. Some time between 1956 and '60 the spindle got Timken bearings and a 1"-10 thread. The pulley block also changed in that time period from the earlier high mounted pulleys to the underslung style. My understanding is that the Atlas started using Timken spindles earlier and from what I've read there were some Craftsmans sold with an Atlas head before that last change so there are some "pre-Timken" Craftsman model year machines with Timkens. I have two Craftsmans, an earlier plain bearing 1-8 and a Timken 1-10.
Mr. Pete: IF you have some way to take the bed to a local autobody supply house they can use a hand scanner to "read" the original paint and make up a dead on match for it. They can then put it into a spray bomb for you to use at home. Here in New Hampshire, I have had that done many times when restoring various items. Sometimes, technology is not a bad thing. lol Thank you so much for all of your hard work.
Thank you for taking all the time to talk about these. I have the 101 version in my small space and it introduced me to machining. My serial is 016578 and also has the 10 tpi.
Mr Pete, I never had shop class at any grade including college. Until at age 62, I spent 2 years in college taking machine classes. I had a blast. Thanks to you and the class
I love my 6" Atlas. I got the milling attachment to it also. It was and is still a fantastic lathe for a hobbyist that knew and still knows nothing about machining. I wish I could of had a teacher, mentor like you! Love your channel!
My 6" Craftsman is also a 101.21400 and it has the 1"-10 spindle. Back in the 70's, I acquired an intake valve for a BSA Gold Star (new) and used my lathe to cut a new keyway for the valve locks to retain the spring. The stem had to be reduced in length eliminating a portion of the upper valve stem. It was a long process and I had a carbide cutting tool for point turning and got it to size. I did not have to pay someone to do this other than for the 3 angle valve job. It is still in the motorcycle working fine. I have many accessories that I have acquired and some are a wedge and a piston tool post( OXA and AXA), boring bars, 3 and 4 jaw chucks, a set of fractional collets made with a #2 Morse taper shank, scissors style knurler, steady rest and more. It has been very handy for many automotive and aviation projects. I was in an EAA chapter and we were building an Aeronca TG5 training glider. My father-in-law passed away and just prior, the Mid Atlantic Aviation Museum (M.A.A.M.) of Reading, PA acquired it. We did get the wings constructed and they fit well. I don't think the Museum has done anything with it to date. I would like to fabricate a ball turner for the 6" lathe and acquire a follower rest. I cannot afford Ebay pricing, the people are out to get rich from one sale. I am glad to see you have a plan for some projects for the Atlas/Craftsman lathes. You seem enthused, I am.
Isn’t it amazing? What a small lathe is capable of ? I really don’t know how some people get through life without owning machine tools, lol. BSAs, triumph, and Nortons were some of my favorite bikes. Thank you for commenting
Im excited that I am apart of history, with this groundbreaking video showcasing both a craftsman 6 inch and, the atlas 6 inch side by side...Im a person that has lived a pretty basic life and to have this in my background Thank You so much Mr Pete LOL....( This is meant to be tongue in cheek and that comments can be misconstrued...
@ I got mine started using a variable speed motor direct drive to the head. But using one of those round belts you melt together. It broke twice so I’m going to replace with a real belt. The fun never ends. Thank you
Thank you for sharing the two lathes side by side. The plate on my Craftsman looks identical with the same model number but the serial number on mine is lower - 004543 so I would assume the one you have is newer than about 1962 when my dad purchased his. On mine there is also a Timken bearing decal (Timken Equipped) on the headstock where the two small holes are that would hold the Atlas Decal. One thing that is probably not original on either lathe is the bolt that locks the carriage as they both appear to have a hex head. On my dads originally it has a square head that the tool post wrench could be used to tighten and loosen but over years of use the threads on it got worn so I replaced it with a regular 1/4" hex headed bolt - I would imagine that is what happened with the two lathes you have as well. I could never justify the price of the carriage stop so I made one and it mates nicely with the smaller 6" carriage. I never did like the fixed steady rest that was offered for the 6" lathe so I made one of those as well - scaled down version of the 12" style that the top piece hinges to make removing a shaft easier than having to unthread one of the fingers. The gears on my dads lathe were always kept in a box with a long carriage bolt and square nut holding them together - I assume the bolt was the way they came from the factory so that none of the gears got lost but could be wrong. Have a great day.
I found the following on a British website that covers the Atlas 6" Lathe: After 1958 the headstock and spindle were shortened by approximately one-inch and the spindle nose made more secure by the use of a 10 t.p.i. thread.
Thank you very much. Last week I discovered that British website. In fact, some of the information that I am putting into my new course came from that site.
Good morning Mr. Pete from Berryville, VA. Growing up in the early '50's my best friends dad had that Atlas lathe and showed me how to use it. He was quite mechanically inclined and I learned a lot from him. Have a lot of find memories of my childhood spent in his shop. Guess he's responsible for me getting my Engineering Degree. Thanks for all your videos, I really enjoy watching and learning from them. Throw away a thread mic because it's pitted??? Absurd! As long as it functions correctly it's useful. JMTCW.😃
Love your insights Mr. Pete. BTW, I love my little Craftsman 6/18 Mrk II (the "block head" version) . I bought it new 50 years ago and made most of my QUORN on it.
That Hegner is a great saw. I bought one new in the 90’s. I paid over 1000.00 for it. There doesn’t seem to be much interest in woodworking anymore. I know I lost interest in it and sold all of my equipment. Keep the videos coming!
My six inch Craftsman, ser 9190 was manufactured in April or August 1946 (I get it mixed up with my 10 inch Logan, also manufactured in 1946). It has a 1 inch 8 tpi spindle. I think the 10 tpi came in sometime in the '60s. The Craftsman has sintered spindle bearings, while the more expansive Atlas headstock had ball bearings. Probably why there seem to be more Atlas still around. People abused the Craftsmen lathes, chewed up the spindles, then parted out the lathes.
Great video Mr. Pete! I've always wanted one of these old lathes but whenever one comes up for sale in my area they sell for a premium. Way beyond my budget. I make the best of my inexpensive Asian made. Thanks for sharing! 😄
Nope, not crazy but certainly entertaining and informative. If Mason City Iowa was closer to your place I'd be a pest and drop in to have a chat with my favorite you tuber. That little Craftsman lathe sure would be grand in my woodworking shop. Of course I would have to keep it covered to prevent the sawdust from cluttering it up. And then I'd be forced to learn how to use it. Another very interesting video Mr. Pete.
I went to that sears store many times, about 50 years ago. They had a fabulous tool department and that store was the closest large sears store in the area.
Nice video Mr. Pete I know Mike Moser from Columbus Nebraska he's 25 miles North of me has a music store and was mayor for a number of years now a state rep. I have a Atlas 12" years back used to do tool and die work enjoy machine work but don't have much time for it now. John
I will be purchasing your 618 series, Me. Pete. My Atlas 618 is likely from the 50's and is 022479. It has all of the original accessories but no milling attachment. A few extras include a taper attachment and a nice micrometer carriage stop. Too many other items to list, but I likely will replace the lantern toolpost unless you convince me otherwise.
I’d rather watch someone else paint than have to do the painting myself. Unfortunately, I’ve had to do more than I like. I do prefer my equipment to look good. The “What the heck is that?” is an inside/outside gage.
Good morning from New Berlin Wisconsin Just outside of Milwaukee the former machine shop of the world. I was working in Illinois last week and wished I could have stopped by for the grand tour.
My grandmother and my aunt’s, lived in Cedarburg. Spent a lot of time there when I was a boy. Went to Milwaukee one time on the interurban, it must’ve been about 1948.
Hello from Oregon :) I probably shouldn't admit this, but if I owned a place with that much stuff, I don't think I'd sell any of it. I'd probably end up with multiple projects set up on different machines just because. Another awesome video :)
You asked, "Who wants to watch me paint?" Painting is more than just dipping a brush into the paint can. It would be instructive to see how much you disassemble the lathe before painting, what gets painted, recommendations as to how to best clean to ensure the paint will last, how many coats you recommend, and things like that.
Very interesting, I didn’t think anyone would want to see that. Furthermore, all my painting is done with these three steps. Why are brush it a bit, decrease it, and slap one coat of paint on it, lol. And then I throw the brush away so I don’t have to clean it up.
Hi Mr Pete another fine video i can't wait to see the rest of the youTube video and the 30 parts series even if i have to pay for it . Thanks. JM Tehachapi ca
Mr Pete !!! I had two wonderful grandpas and if I could have had a third you would have been a fantastic one. We are from northeast Ga mountains and I watch you all the time with my husband. You are a font of knowledge and treasure ….sincerely. We appreciate you and all of your content. Even love the “rants” bc it’s all true !!! Blessings to you and yours.
Sears would specify changes in threads and bearings when they contracted with many manufacturers in order to close the parts and service to Sears only. My dad was a huge Sears fan for everything except items that they had made for them that were so called copies of tools or machines, because NOTHING from any other source, even the actual manufacturer, would fit.
The 10 tpi pitch thread would lock up the chuck backplate to the spindle shoulder more securely than the coarser 8tpi On the topic of square/flat topped compound slides vs cast with a sculpted top face,I far prefer the square flat top as it gives greater opportunity to mount a mag base for a dial indicator.
Wow there were 10 of these new we didn't know what they were we cut them up with a torch and scaped them, some weren't even used in the original boxes. Thought they were outdated and we just hired to clean the place up.
Good morning Mr. Pete (world’s best shop teacher). Interested to know more about the spindle size. I had heard my Delta wood lathe , a 14-40 , was generally designed on standard machinist sizes. It has a 8tpi-1” spindle and had always assumed that was a standard machinist size. I just checked a really old woodworking headstock (it has a wide wooden flat belt pulley) I got in a box lot, it is also 8-1”.
The thread micrometer is from the beginning of WWII used in a Navy aircraft Assembly & Repair facility. Now called FRC. It's history, not junk. I worked at the one on NAS JAX for 37 years. please don't trash it.
The spindle on your Atlas lathe had to have been replaced with a Craftsman spindle at some point. Craftsman models had 8 tpi up until 1957 or 1958. I'm pretty sure Atlas always had 10 tpi.
Anyone who lives in a state that lathes like these are available is super lucky. I have been trying to find one of either of these locally for years, with no luck. Shipping on these to me is expensive, but it looks like if I am too ever get one, I am going to have to bite the bullet and pay the shipping. 😢 If he's from Nebraska, he didn't do a good job trying to sell it locally, because I never found it. And trust me I try every way I know of to check every town.
Hello Mr. Pete. Not sure why your Atlas 618 has 8 tpi spindle nose. My understanding is that all Atlas 618 lathes had a Timken tapered roller bearing headstock with 1”-10tpi spindle nose since 1939, shown as ‘New’ in my 1939 Atlas catalog. Perhaps your Atlas 618 dates prior to 1939 or 8tpi was an Option? Regarding the Craftsman, my review of Craftsman catalogs that I have on pdf shows that the Craftsman 6” metal lathe first came out in 1940 with a 1”-8tpi spindle nose and Oilite bronze sleeve bearing headstock. This carried on unchanged through 1958. The first Timken bearing 6” Craftsman lathe with 1”-10tpi spindle came out in the 1959 Craftsman catalog. The first new model MK2 lathe (squared off castings) 6” Craftsman lathe is advertised in the 1974/1975 Craftsman catalog. The first ever 6” Craftsman metal cutting lathe is shown in the 1938 Craftsman catalog and has a 3/4-16 spindle nose with Oilite bronze sleeve bearing headstock.
Thank you very much for the history lesson. I have been reading up on it myself from that British website. They’re still seems to be a few unanswered questions.
Very informative! That difference in spindle thread is something to beware of. Is there a source for tool post rockers? I have 2 smaller Craftsman lathes missing them.
When Sears contracted to have their tools, mowers Etc. manufactured they would have to be "NOT" interchangeable so only Sears parts and accessories would fit. More money!
will those 3d gears last very long? can you use them for cores if you could make castings of new gears in aluminium? no draft angles but is it possible maybe? nice video.
good morning mr pete 😊 i just emailed you a link that has lots of information on this and several other machines. hopefully you find it as interesting as i did.
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Great News that you will be doing a full video series on the 618. Vintage lathes are not in good supply in Texas so I finally settled on a Chinese made 10/22” lathe sold by Precision Matthews. I also purchased from Mr Pete the video series for the South Bend lathe (8” I believe) which is kind of equivalent to my PM 10/22. Great video series by Mr Pete that really helped get me up and running with my lathe. Any hobby machinist who already owns or is considering buying an import mini lathe would I know benefit from the 618 series Mr Pete will be offering in the future. John from San Antonio
Thank you for the plug John , lol.
I have heard that a precision. Matthew machines are pretty darn good.
Great video Mr Pete. At 20:50 on the photo of the catalogue page, it mentions the Atlas 612, the smaller brother of the 618, which is the lathe I have. They never get a mention in videos, but they are essentially a cut down version of the 618, same parts and all, just a shorter bed. This makes them very rigid when firmly fixed down and great for small items in suitable materials, and mine takes up very little room in my restricted workshop space. I’ve very much enjoyed your videos on the 618, as they are entirely relevant to my 612 and I look forward to many more to come. Many thanks for all your insights and advice. Best wishes, Gerry (UK)
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Good Morning from Duluth! My 21400 lathe was made in the late 60’s and has 10tpi threads. I’ve read that the switch from 8 to 10 happened when they switched the spindle bearings from ball to tapered roller.
Interesting information!
Mornin' Mr. Pete! I love my 1st period shop class. I live in Racine, WI which is the home of J.I. Case, Johnson's Wax, In-Sink-Erator, Hamilton Beach, Western Printing, (Remember Big Little Books?) and many many others. In the '70s I worked at a factory called Haban Mfg. where we made mowers, snow throwers, and other similar implements. Sometimes during a run of snow throwers for example, a portion of the run would be painted a different color and labeled "Craftsman". I'm pretty sure Sears never really produced anything of its own. They simply contracted companies like Haban and Atlas to apply the Craftsman name to existing products. Just a bit of manufacturing era trivia. Thanks for posting sir. You make 'em, I'll watch 'em.
Thanks for sharing that information!
You are correct in that Sears purchased their products by contract from manufactures. They did however, steal many product patten rights before the item could be patterned.
I had a good friend in Korea from Wisconsin. We slept in the same tent. His home back home at the time was 11 Center St. Racine, WS. I searched for but never was able to find him after service.
@ You are not alone in not finding old army buddies. Had the same experience.
Great video Mr Pete!
As far as the motor pulley, all you need is the smaller size. I have never used the larger one.
All the early lathe spindles that had bronze bearings were originally 1 inch 8 thread. They changed to 1 inch 10 threads when they went to the Timkin bearings. According to the drawings both spindles are the same, so someone probably changed the spindle for some reason.
If you have all the bell crank parts, I have repaired them. I finish both sides of the break drill and tap the ends for a 3mm screw. Cut the head off the screw, and use it as all thread. If needed you can make a spacer collar from aluminum. Then dry fit it and adjust the face length to get everything lined up. Then use green permanent locktite on the parts. My repairs have lasted over 4 years. I actually made mine just a bit larger with a bit longer spacer.
Great idea
Wow... I had totally forgot about the Atlas heavy 10, till you showed it again. Obvousely you have no choice but pick up the lathe bed and reassemble it for resale. Far as any restoration of it, that's up to you. Thank Mr. Pete.
Never knew you could smoke 'caffeine' but hey, no judgement it's 2024. Learning how to use my Atlas 618 was how I found you and your excellent tutelage for machines and life. It has given great service for professional clock repair as well as countless tools, machines, vehicles etc. Thanks for your big part in all that.
I am glad to hear it has served you so well!
I don't have details about the Atlas, but this is what I know about the Craftsman: The 8 vs. 10 TPI headstocks is a year change thing, there was also a 3/4"-16TPI version. The spindle on the first iteration was a 3/4"-16 with a #1 morse taper bore for 1937 and '38, there weren't many made and they didn't have a back gear so they were 8 speed machines. In 1939 they got the back gear and went to the 1"-8 spindle with the #2 bore. Some time between 1956 and '60 the spindle got Timken bearings and a 1"-10 thread. The pulley block also changed in that time period from the earlier high mounted pulleys to the underslung style.
My understanding is that the Atlas started using Timken spindles earlier and from what I've read there were some Craftsmans sold with an Atlas head before that last change so there are some "pre-Timken" Craftsman model year machines with Timkens.
I have two Craftsmans, an earlier plain bearing 1-8 and a Timken 1-10.
Thank you very much for that information. I hope lots of people read your comment.
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Hello Mr Pete, Greetings from New Hampshire! Look forward to each and every video. Please never stop!
Thanks for watching!
Mr. Pete: IF you have some way to take the bed to a local autobody supply house they can use a hand scanner to "read" the original paint and make up a dead on match for it. They can then put it into a spray bomb for you to use at home. Here in New Hampshire, I have had that done many times when restoring various items. Sometimes, technology is not a bad thing. lol
Thank you so much for all of your hard work.
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Good morning from Victoria, Texas! Thanks for sharing, Ken
Thank you for taking all the time to talk about these. I have the 101 version in my small space and it introduced me to machining. My serial is 016578 and also has the 10 tpi.
Another great show with my coffee! Thanks for sharing!
Glad you liked it!
Mr Pete, I never had shop class at any grade including college. Until at age 62, I spent 2 years in college taking machine classes. I had a blast. Thanks to you and the class
It is great to hear you got to enjoy the experience at an older age.
Always enjoy your videos MrPete.
Have a great day.
Always interesting and informative.
I love my 6" Atlas. I got the milling attachment to it also. It was and is still a fantastic lathe for a hobbyist that knew and still knows nothing about machining. I wish I could of had a teacher, mentor like you!
Love your channel!
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Thanks for your hard work!
My 6" Craftsman is also a 101.21400 and it has the 1"-10 spindle. Back in the 70's, I acquired an intake valve for a BSA Gold Star (new) and used my lathe to cut a new keyway for the valve locks to retain the spring. The stem had to be reduced in length eliminating a portion of the upper valve stem. It was a long process and I had a carbide cutting tool for point turning and got it to size. I did not have to pay someone to do this other than for the 3 angle valve job. It is still in the motorcycle working fine. I have many accessories that I have acquired and some are a wedge and a piston tool post( OXA and AXA), boring bars, 3 and 4 jaw chucks, a set of fractional collets made with a #2 Morse taper shank, scissors style knurler, steady rest and more. It has been very handy for many automotive and aviation projects. I was in an EAA chapter and we were building an Aeronca TG5 training glider. My father-in-law passed away and just prior, the Mid Atlantic Aviation Museum (M.A.A.M.) of Reading, PA acquired it. We did get the wings constructed and they fit well. I don't think the Museum has done anything with it to date. I would like to fabricate a ball turner for the 6" lathe and acquire a follower rest. I cannot afford Ebay pricing, the people are out to get rich from one sale. I am glad to see you have a plan for some projects for the Atlas/Craftsman lathes. You seem enthused, I am.
Isn’t it amazing? What a small lathe is capable of ? I really don’t know how some people get through life without owning machine tools, lol. BSAs, triumph, and Nortons were some of my favorite bikes. Thank you for commenting
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Im excited that I am apart of history, with this groundbreaking video showcasing both a craftsman 6 inch and, the atlas 6 inch side by side...Im a person that has lived a pretty basic life and to have this in my background Thank You so much Mr Pete LOL....( This is meant to be tongue in cheek and that comments can be misconstrued...
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Great video Mr pete!!! Never to many if you have the room lol enjoy !!!!
You always have something interesting! Thank you!
Thank you.
Mr. Pete, another fine video.
Thank you Mr Pete from KC
Hello Mr Pete, Greetings from Kampinos near Warsaw in Poland! I watch every your video and enjoy all of them!
Thank you very much, you are a long way off
Thanks for your time. I look forward to purchasing your series on the 618.
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@ I got mine started using a variable speed motor direct drive to the head. But using one of those round belts you melt together. It broke twice so I’m going to replace with a real belt. The fun never ends. Thank you
love it when you get fired up Mr Pete.
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Mr. Pete you may be crazy but we love you for it, that's one of the reasons we watch. From Georgia, about 45 miles ENE of Atlanta.
We stayed at the Valdosta Drury Inn several times. Georgia is a great state.
The one I had included no where near the extras you have with yours, but it did the job.
Thank you for sharing the two lathes side by side. The plate on my Craftsman looks identical with the same model number but the serial number on mine is lower - 004543 so I would assume the one you have is newer than about 1962 when my dad purchased his. On mine there is also a Timken bearing decal (Timken Equipped) on the headstock where the two small holes are that would hold the Atlas Decal. One thing that is probably not original on either lathe is the bolt that locks the carriage as they both appear to have a hex head. On my dads originally it has a square head that the tool post wrench could be used to tighten and loosen but over years of use the threads on it got worn so I replaced it with a regular 1/4" hex headed bolt - I would imagine that is what happened with the two lathes you have as well. I could never justify the price of the carriage stop so I made one and it mates nicely with the smaller 6" carriage. I never did like the fixed steady rest that was offered for the 6" lathe so I made one of those as well - scaled down version of the 12" style that the top piece hinges to make removing a shaft easier than having to unthread one of the fingers. The gears on my dads lathe were always kept in a box with a long carriage bolt and square nut holding them together - I assume the bolt was the way they came from the factory so that none of the gears got lost but could be wrong.
Have a great day.
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I found the following on a British website that covers the Atlas 6" Lathe:
After 1958 the headstock and spindle were shortened by approximately one-inch and the spindle nose made more secure by the use of a 10 t.p.i. thread.
Thank you very much. Last week I discovered that British website. In fact, some of the information that I am putting into my new course came from that site.
Always interesting to view your videos Keep them coming.
Good morning Mr. Pete from Berryville, VA. Growing up in the early '50's my best friends dad had that Atlas lathe and showed me how to use it. He was quite mechanically inclined and I learned a lot from him. Have a lot of find memories of my childhood spent in his shop. Guess he's responsible for me getting my Engineering Degree.
Thanks for all your videos, I really enjoy watching and learning from them.
Throw away a thread mic because it's pitted??? Absurd! As long as it functions correctly it's useful. JMTCW.😃
He must have been quite a guy
Thank you Mr Pete
Love your insights Mr. Pete. BTW, I love my little Craftsman 6/18 Mrk II (the "block head" version) . I bought it new 50 years ago and made most of my QUORN on it.
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I had to look past all the results for QUORN food to find: *_Quorn Mk3 - Universal Tool & Cutter Grinder_*
Good morning from Northern Virginia.Thanks for the videos and Happy Holidays!
Happy Holidays to you too!
Jun Bantigue from Malabon City Philippines. Keep up with fantastic content, learning a lot from you, Sir!
Awesome! Thank you!
That Hegner is a great saw. I bought one new in the 90’s. I paid over 1000.00 for it. There doesn’t seem to be much interest in woodworking anymore. I know I lost interest in it and sold all of my equipment. Keep the videos coming!
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Hello Mr pete I've been watching your videos since the beginning from North Dakota
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I enjoy you videos.
My six inch Craftsman, ser 9190 was manufactured in April or August 1946 (I get it mixed up with my 10 inch Logan, also manufactured in 1946). It has a 1 inch 8 tpi spindle. I think the 10 tpi came in sometime in the '60s. The Craftsman has sintered spindle bearings, while the more expansive Atlas headstock had ball bearings. Probably why there seem to be more Atlas still around. People abused the Craftsmen lathes, chewed up the spindles, then parted out the lathes.
Thank you, very interesting
Greatings from Yorkshire in the UK, always look forward to your videos.
Awesome, thank you!
Hi Mr. Pete and good morning from Walla Walla Washington and thanks for the video
Good morning!
Fantastic, I own an Atlas 618, no space for something bigger/better but I enjoy it a lot
It is a great lathe, especially for the size.
Great video Mr. Pete! I've always wanted one of these old lathes but whenever one comes up for sale in my area they sell for a premium. Way beyond my budget. I make the best of my inexpensive Asian made. Thanks for sharing! 😄
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THANK YOU , for teaching your skills , it is much appreciated ,...
KANSAS , KENTUCKY ,...just 15 miles south of paducah ky,..
Mike
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Brian from Ma.Great video can’t wait to see progress videos and also (Thank you)
More to come!
Nope, not crazy but certainly entertaining and informative. If Mason City Iowa was closer to your place I'd be a pest and drop in to have a chat with my favorite you tuber. That little Craftsman lathe sure would be grand in my woodworking shop. Of course I would have to keep it covered to prevent the sawdust from cluttering it up. And then I'd be forced to learn how to use it. Another very interesting video Mr. Pete.
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The highlight of the trip to Sears in Peoria was the tool department, when I was a kid. I still remember the Craftsman lathes lined up, on display.
I went to that sears store many times, about 50 years ago. They had a fabulous tool department and that store was the closest large sears store in the area.
Like a kid in a toy or candy store.
Nice video Mr. Pete I know Mike Moser from Columbus Nebraska he's 25 miles North of me has a music store and was mayor for a number of years now a state rep. I have a Atlas 12" years back used to do tool and die work enjoy machine work but don't have much time for it now. John
Small world!
Mike seemed like a real nice guy.
I like my craftsman 12 inch machine very well
Early Christmas for Tubalcain. Hello from warm Kerrville Texas!
Happy holidays!
Greetings from Southern California Mr. Pete!
I will be purchasing your 618 series, Me. Pete. My Atlas 618 is likely from the 50's and is 022479. It has all of the original accessories but no milling attachment. A few extras include a taper attachment and a nice micrometer carriage stop. Too many other items to list, but I likely will replace the lantern toolpost unless you convince me otherwise.
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Morning Mr Pete from South Dakota😊
Morning
Im from Flushing Michigan, between Flint and Saginaw
I’d rather watch someone else paint than have to do the painting myself. Unfortunately, I’ve had to do more than I like. I do prefer my equipment to look good. The “What the heck is that?” is an inside/outside gage.
Pete… Jefferson City Mo..
Never stop till dead… love your vids bro.
Thank you, I appreciate your support!
Great job. Thank you 😊
Good morning from New Berlin Wisconsin
Just outside of Milwaukee the former machine shop of the world. I was working in Illinois last week and wished I could have stopped by for the grand tour.
My grandmother and my aunt’s, lived in Cedarburg. Spent a lot of time there when I was a boy. Went to Milwaukee one time on the interurban, it must’ve been about 1948.
Great video!
Hello Mr Pete from Akron Ohio.
Hello from Oregon :) I probably shouldn't admit this, but if I owned a place with that much stuff, I don't think I'd sell any of it. I'd probably end up with multiple projects set up on different machines just because. Another awesome video :)
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You asked, "Who wants to watch me paint?" Painting is more than just dipping a brush into the paint can. It would be instructive to see how much you disassemble the lathe before painting, what gets painted, recommendations as to how to best clean to ensure the paint will last, how many coats you recommend, and things like that.
Very interesting, I didn’t think anyone would want to see that. Furthermore, all my painting is done with these three steps. Why are brush it a bit, decrease it, and slap one coat of paint on it, lol. And then I throw the brush away so I don’t have to clean it up.
Springfield, Illinois home base
Hi Mr Pete another fine video i can't wait to see the rest of the youTube video and the 30 parts series even if i have to pay for it . Thanks. JM Tehachapi ca
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Mr Pete !!! I had two wonderful grandpas and if I could have had a third you would have been a fantastic one. We are from northeast Ga mountains and I watch you all the time with my husband. You are a font of knowledge and treasure ….sincerely. We appreciate you and all of your content. Even love the “rants” bc it’s all true !!! Blessings to you and yours.
Thank you very very much, that was a touching comment
Yeeeee. Haaaw Mr Pete. !!!!
Not Crazy - but do it all.
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Sears would specify changes in threads and bearings when they contracted with many manufacturers in order to close the parts and service to Sears only. My dad was a huge Sears fan for everything except items that they had made for them that were so called copies of tools or machines, because NOTHING from any other source, even the actual manufacturer, would fit.
Proprietary
Good morning from Pt St Lucie, Fl
Greatings from Germany
Greetings
The 10 tpi pitch thread would lock up the chuck backplate to the spindle shoulder more securely than the coarser 8tpi
On the topic of square/flat topped compound slides vs cast with a sculpted top face,I far prefer the square flat top as it gives greater opportunity to mount a mag base for a dial indicator.
I agree with you on those points.
Always interesting, Mr.Pete.
W. Pennsylvania, planet Erff. (The spheroid one, not flat Erff) 😂
Oroville California where my 6 in atlas has 10 t.p.i spindle and the craftsman has 8 t.p.i.
Totally backwards from mine
Wow there were 10 of these new we didn't know what they were we cut them up with a torch and scaped them, some weren't even used in the original boxes. Thought they were outdated and we just hired to clean the place up.
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Nice video!
Tubalcain, once again another really great video!
Would you show us how to use the follow rest? Please and thank you.
Morning Lyle
Hi from Taneytown Maryland.
My sister-in-law lives in Hagerstown
That’s about 30 miles from me 👍
Good morning Mr. Pete (world’s best shop teacher). Interested to know more about the spindle size. I had heard my Delta wood lathe , a 14-40 , was generally designed on standard machinist sizes. It has a 8tpi-1” spindle and had always assumed that was a standard machinist size. I just checked a really old woodworking headstock (it has a wide wooden flat belt pulley) I got in a box lot, it is also 8-1”.
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I'm from rural South Carolina.
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"Big" south bends and clausings!😂
The thread micrometer is from the beginning of WWII used in a Navy aircraft Assembly & Repair facility. Now called FRC. It's history, not junk.
I worked at the one on NAS JAX for 37 years. please don't trash it.
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The spindle on your Atlas lathe had to have been replaced with a Craftsman spindle at some point. Craftsman models had 8 tpi up until 1957 or 1958. I'm pretty sure Atlas always had 10 tpi.
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Anyone who lives in a state that lathes like these are available is super lucky.
I have been trying to find one of either of these locally for years, with no luck.
Shipping on these to me is expensive, but it looks like if I am too ever get one, I am going to have to bite the bullet and pay the shipping. 😢
If he's from Nebraska, he didn't do a good job trying to sell it locally, because I never found it. And trust me I try every way I know of to check every town.
Keep trying
@mrpete222 Not until I have one sitting on my bench. Thank you for the videos. 🙂
I made a step pulley out of aluminum for my 618.
That’s what I need to do
The thread mic is "useless"?? I don't see how the pitting affects the functionality at all
GE Motors. Fort Wayne.
Hello Mr. Pete. Not sure why your Atlas 618 has 8 tpi spindle nose. My understanding is that all Atlas 618 lathes had a Timken tapered roller bearing headstock with 1”-10tpi spindle nose since 1939, shown as ‘New’ in my 1939 Atlas catalog. Perhaps your Atlas 618 dates prior to 1939 or 8tpi was an Option? Regarding the Craftsman, my review of Craftsman catalogs that I have on pdf shows that the Craftsman 6” metal lathe first came out in 1940 with a 1”-8tpi spindle nose and Oilite bronze sleeve bearing headstock. This carried on unchanged through 1958. The first Timken bearing 6” Craftsman lathe with 1”-10tpi spindle came out in the 1959 Craftsman catalog. The first new model MK2 lathe (squared off castings) 6” Craftsman lathe is advertised in the 1974/1975 Craftsman catalog. The first ever 6” Craftsman metal cutting lathe is shown in the 1938 Craftsman catalog and has a 3/4-16 spindle nose with Oilite bronze sleeve bearing headstock.
Thank you very much for the history lesson. I have been reading up on it myself from that British website. They’re still seems to be a few unanswered questions.
Very informative! That difference in spindle thread is something to beware of.
Is there a source for tool post rockers? I have 2 smaller Craftsman lathes missing them.
I am unaware of a source
@@mrpete222 Thanks for answering. Those things are often missing on a used lathe, Somebody should set up to make them in several sizes.
I want to see you paint it.
When Sears contracted to have their tools, mowers Etc. manufactured they would have to be "NOT" interchangeable so
only Sears parts and accessories would fit. More money!
Lots of companies do that now, I think they call it proprietary.
The general public call it greed
@@mrpete222 We have recently seen a cure for greed
Looks like you set for winter. No grass to mow, only machines to clean and paint and videos to make.
That’s right!
The thread micrometer is a Starrett not a Brown and Sharpe
Whoops
will those 3d gears last very long? can you use them for cores if you could make castings of new gears in aluminium? no draft angles but is it possible maybe? nice video.
Would not work as patterns
good morning mr pete 😊 i just emailed you a link that has lots of information on this and several other machines. hopefully you find it as interesting as i did.
Cheers
Western Australia. 👍👍 Didn't that South Bend lathe, belong to both your brother and your dad? It would seem a shame to sell it.
You are correct, it did.