Look I'm a black firefighter and I just want to hit a couple points. First..he most likely didn't pick where he was stationed. You usually find out where you're going after you graduate from the academy. Second..a fire department needs to consists of mature adults that take this job/life seriously, yet at the same time have a sense of humor and know that some things aren't done maliciously and done out of just good fun and brotherhood. We do racial things to each other in the station all the time but it's mutually considered a term of endearment. If we play around with each other and laugh and argue and disagree but we stay brothers that's all that matters. These dudes are to soft and sensitive just like the red part in that watermelon
Motherwaffle By being offended by this piece of history, people are basically saying stereotypes are still important, instead of ignoring them and passing them off as silly and ridiculous.
There are offences with certain stenotypes. No one is offended because it a part of history they are offended with the racist promo that came out of it after.
Free black people grew, ate, and sold watermelons, and in doing so made the fruit a symbol of their freedom. Southern whites, threatened by blacks’ newfound freedom, responded by making the fruit a symbol of black people’s perceived uncleanliness, laziness, childishness, and unwanted public presence. This racist trope then exploded in American popular culture, becoming so pervasive that its historical origin became obscure. Few Americans in 1900 would’ve guessed the stereotype was less than half a century old. But I agree...this be some bullshit for dude to be fired over a fucking waterrmelon
This white fool bought $49 worth of TacoBell Mexican food and brought straight to a company picnic.Our company is 98% Mexican....so we rushed the fool and...took the hot delicious bags of tacos and burritos from his hands and said "what that's it..that's cool holmes." That was a great company picnic.
Anonymous Person So im guessing you get offended if someone offered you watermelon or whatever food from your culture because they assumed you like it. Its the intent that should decide how you should feel not the food. Simple enough for you?
Trapinnewyork44 idiot. If it really did have any racist intent, would a serious intense racist bring a god dam fruit to degrade his coworkers? Even if we were to assume it was racist, its clearly a fkin joke like one you would crack with your friends. Do you filter stupid shit you say to your friends? Dam you stupid. The brain is truly an important organ.
Super Macho Nacho You are the only idiot shit for brain that can't comprehend the the idea of passive aggressive behavior. He could have chosen to to bring any form of gift, however he specifically chose watermelon to bring too black firefighters on purpose, why? Because he had it specific intention of passive aggressive racist behavior you dumb fuck.
"The association of African Americans and watermelon goes back to the time of slavery in the United States. Defenders of slavery used the fruit to paint African Americans as a simple-minded people who were happy when provided watermelon and a little rest."
Dinkelstein Kerman It's because people still use those things to be racist. Until people stop using certain things to be racist and when it doesn't effect the people they are being racist to negatively. There is no leaving it in the past then. I do understand intent means everything, but I mean there are still things that aren't in the past yet.
The watermelon stereotype came from slavery when Africans brought over seeds from Africa when they were captured and brought here. It’s a really simple fruit to tend to and grow and that’s what they would farm when they were slaves . Whites would mock them and create ads making fun of black people for it and that’s where the stereotype comes from I believe
YAGURLPRIN YES AND NO .. it's also because they were deprived of water and had to steal watermelon for it and because the whites didn't want them to have it they would harvest what they didn't use and use it for target practice...
at my work most of us are mexican, their is 1 black older man amongst us, he is awesome, but everyday that he works he brings us a watermelon to eat haha
True. He shouldn't have gotten fired over something like this. It's honestly BS. But to people saying that people should just get over things or to not be offended by other things, you dont get to control the way people feel or react to something. Just because you can brush something off doesn't mean everyone else can or even should. David was right about the situation getting blown out of proportion but saying that they shouldn't have cared and that it was just fruit speaks to the fact that he just doesnt understand the full situation, which is perfectly fine given the fact that he isnt a racist white person or a black person who has been subjugated by these specific kinds of racist acts. But he cant tell others who do understand it and feel a certain way about it to just get over it. If you step on my shoes you cant tell me how i should feel or react to it. I'll react the way I see fit.
I opened TH-cam app and it automatically played this video. I was gonna watch jknews first before kpop so im glad that i didn't have to do all the work to find the channel or go to notification.
White firefighter brings watermelon = instantly fired Cop of any race using brutality = yeah, we sent him away for a little while but don't worry, he's paid.
I might just be high asf but the cast of JKN gives me a medieval times kind of feel. Like Bart is the king of the castle , Geo is the queen, Tiffany is the princess, David is the jester , Joe is the knight, and Julia is the blacksmith or something.
I am not Asian and In my culture they eat chicken feet too. So I don't see how that only relates to Asian .maybe I just don't know that stereotype maybe it just isn't as widespread as the watermelon stereotype . I do see how Watermelon relates to black culture bc it was a racial stereotype for black people . The fruit was used to symbolize black people it was used to symbolize many of the same qualities as it was in post emancipation America the messiness of eating the fruit and how it is unwanted in public presence . It is a literal stereotype for black people and degrade them . However , I don't think the person should have been fired simply for bringing a watermelon and I think he was probably low-key fired for another reason and this was simply an excuse
keke F yeah Hispanics (or at least in some Hispanic countries) we eat chicken feet. I don't particularly like it but my parents do. Honestly they eat almost every part of the animal, nothing goes to waste
keke F in my dad’s youth in Jamaica he ate chicken feet, but I think it’s bc it’s most if not all of Asia, do they eat chicken feet. Basically you’d find it to be a more common food in the Asian community than anywhere else... I think...
The backstory of watermelon and black people stereotype was because back in the late 1800’s after the civil war and slaves were freed, watermelon was one of the the few agricultural crops African-Americans were able to grow in the south. And after that the rest became history
9:28 😂👌 13:57 but that Chinese commercial was a copy of an Italian commercial. I wonder if that Italian commercial was also deemed offensive or racist.
If you aren't a racist person... you aren't always thinking of things to avoid being racist... like if you aren't racist, you don't watermelon can be a racist thing to bring. Like it's a fucking fruit.
A guy in my brother's unit got in a lot of shit for being racist. My brothers told me that in the army(and maybe other branches) everyone is seen as a soldier instead of race or skin color. I wish I could have gone into the military.
Water melon is a stereotype for black people because during the slave times, the slave owners would give them watermelon because it served as water for hydration and food for nutrients. It was very cheap method for the slave owners.
I ❤️ JKNews and watch you guys daily for years BUT I just had to sit through TWO, 2 minute NON-skippable videos for the 1st time WITHIN your video! We know you can choose the type of ad length, etc within your own video. Please spare us the non-skip ad option -Signed, JKNewsWatcher P.S. The stigmatism of watermelon and black people can be seen in the constant portrayal in benial movies and cartoons in history. Immersion can be seen as acted by the black crows in Disney movies or the term "black face" where blacks are stereotyped as a certain look. People tie all of that together. To me, it's just watermelon but to others it is the calculated history.
I mean, that's true. Maybe this black person holds watermelon as a symbol of racism because they had experienced it before, or their old relatives had. We all perceive things differently. However, the true argument here imo is was the consequence well deserved? I think not. The firefighters could've easily had a mature discussion to let the white firefighter know that his joke wasn't cool, and warn him.
We dont know the context so it makes it tricky to comment, hearing it it doesn't sound like it should be offensive but its just very unusual so we dont know.
Julia: *speaks*
David: No, fuck your idea.
TheyCallMeSomething They always shut my girl Julia down 😒
Thats the way is supposed to be
Thank you David
😂😂😂
It's because she said something really stupid
Look I'm a black firefighter and I just want to hit a couple points. First..he most likely didn't pick where he was stationed. You usually find out where you're going after you graduate from the academy. Second..a fire department needs to consists of mature adults that take this job/life seriously, yet at the same time have a sense of humor and know that some things aren't done maliciously and done out of just good fun and brotherhood. We do racial things to each other in the station all the time but it's mutually considered a term of endearment. If we play around with each other and laugh and argue and disagree but we stay brothers that's all that matters. These dudes are to soft and sensitive just like the red part in that watermelon
Dammit😲
hahahahhahahahha
Tell em brother! We do pranks and joke around at the station all the time, it's how we cope with everything we see on the job.
Agreed brotha! Hell if the public had a slight taste to what goes on inside the walls they'd loose their minds
I say there more like a lemon or tangerine.😐Because they weren't sweet at all.
I mean that's a big fucking watermelon he probably thought wow that's a huge watermelon I'll bring it to the fire house
Tilly Dunne that’s what I thought. I would have brought it thinking hey it’s healthy delicious and big enough to feed everyone.
I heard that he grow the watermelon
All things aside
That's a huge watermelon. Send me one
Royal Noble everybody got gifts but I GOT A WATERMELONE INSTEAD
I agree with David on this one. It's a damn fruit!!! EVERYONE eats that good stuff!
roo thao right?! Who doesn't like watermelons?!
Motherwaffle By being offended by this piece of history, people are basically saying stereotypes are still important, instead of ignoring them and passing them off as silly and ridiculous.
Super Macho Nacho nachos are bomb
Juan Ortega It goes without saying.
There are offences with certain stenotypes. No one is offended because it a part of history they are offended with the racist promo that came out of it after.
It was offensive that he didn’t pre-slice the watermelon 😩
😓😤
He harvested it himself and thought it would be a good idea to bring something from his own garden to the party.
Syrianita That's pretty cool🖒
I was thinking, don't know how expensive stuff is over there,but buying a watermelon is cheaper then donuts ,so i could see me buying the watermelon
no he had his slaves harvest it for him. is clearly how those guys saw him.
Free black people grew, ate, and sold watermelons, and in doing so made the fruit a symbol of their freedom. Southern whites, threatened by blacks’ newfound freedom, responded by making the fruit a symbol of black people’s perceived uncleanliness, laziness, childishness, and unwanted public presence. This racist trope then exploded in American popular culture, becoming so pervasive that its historical origin became obscure. Few Americans in 1900 would’ve guessed the stereotype was less than half a century old.
But I agree...this be some bullshit for dude to be fired over a fucking waterrmelon
He put a bow on it cause its a fucking gift😤
This white fool bought $49 worth of TacoBell Mexican food and brought straight to a company picnic.Our company is 98% Mexican....so we rushed the fool and...took the hot delicious bags of tacos and burritos from his hands and said "what that's it..that's cool holmes." That was a great company picnic.
hopefully your digestive tract and toilet will agree.
that was racist, Gupta
PwnishR that's still not an equivalent to this scenario. The dude you're talking about was straight up stereotyping.
+Erik De Anda have you learned about satire good fellow
How can 98% of Mexicans work at the company if they are all unemployed?
Too much? Lol.
David speaking common sense
UNFNS - by Thomas Paine?
Jason Truong no
Anonymous Person yes
Anonymous Person So im guessing you get offended if someone offered you watermelon or whatever food from your culture because they assumed you like it. Its the intent that should decide how you should feel not the food. Simple enough for you?
UNFNS - he is oblivious
No pomegranates
Casjack NO POMEGRANATES!
Deadass 😂😂😂😂
NO NO NO NO NO!!
SAY IT ALL TOGETHER NOW. NO. POMEGRANATES
Casjack I legit can to the comments to say that
His career is ruined now and all because of a watermelon smh....
JOEGONZALEZ nope, because their not putting up with ignorant racists bullshit.
They never said that it was intentional, you don't know that he's racist, stop assuming.
Trapinnewyork44 idiot. If it really did have any racist intent, would a serious intense racist bring a god dam fruit to degrade his coworkers? Even if we were to assume it was racist, its clearly a fkin joke like one you would crack with your friends. Do you filter stupid shit you say to your friends? Dam you stupid.
The brain is truly an important organ.
Trapinnewyork44 relax cupcakes, you want a slice of good old juicy watermelon?
Super Macho Nacho You are the only idiot shit for brain that can't comprehend the the idea of passive aggressive behavior. He could have chosen to to bring any form of gift, however he specifically chose watermelon to bring too black firefighters on purpose, why? Because he had it specific intention of passive aggressive racist behavior you dumb fuck.
"The association of African Americans and watermelon goes back to the time of slavery in the United States. Defenders of slavery used the fruit to paint African Americans as a simple-minded people who were happy when provided watermelon and a little rest."
noirtec9 It is both.
Slaves drink water too. Is drinking water racist now?
+wong tik ki i dont agree with the man getting fired for bring watermelon, nor do i find it racist as an african to bring watermelon as a gift...
Dinkelstein Kerman It's because people still use those things to be racist. Until people stop using certain things to be racist and when it doesn't effect the people they are being racist to negatively. There is no leaving it in the past then. I do understand intent means everything, but I mean there are still things that aren't in the past yet.
Dinkelstein Kerman You didn't understand my comment. I agree the guy gifting the watermelon did nothing wrong.
The watermelon stereotype came from slavery when Africans brought over seeds from Africa when they were captured and brought here. It’s a really simple fruit to tend to and grow and that’s what they would farm when they were slaves . Whites would mock them and create ads making fun of black people for it and that’s where the stereotype comes from I believe
YAGURLPRIN they also brought fried chicken , corn bread and grape kool aid
YAGURLPRIN I thought it was just from a random vine
YAGURLPRIN YES AND NO .. it's also because they were deprived of water and had to steal watermelon for it and because the whites didn't want them to have it they would harvest what they didn't use and use it for target practice...
Mariesha Murphy it was
Mariesha Murphy there are plenty of racist old timey cartoons depicting black people eating watermelon
I'm not offended in any way. I find it hilarious honestly.. but it's sad to know that people get butt hurt over the smallest thing.
i don't know you but i like you
u cool
at my work most of us are mexican, their is 1 black older man amongst us, he is awesome, but everyday that he works he brings us a watermelon to eat haha
Edward Cullen tho
I was also like Robert Pattinson???
I said that in the comments too.
He's so white, He sparkle.
🍉🍉🍉
Dat Nice bananas
Ren Ren ty
🤙🏽
Fuck off already
You'll never work in this business again!
True. He shouldn't have gotten fired over something like this. It's honestly BS. But to people saying that people should just get over things or to not be offended by other things, you dont get to control the way people feel or react to something. Just because you can brush something off doesn't mean everyone else can or even should.
David was right about the situation getting blown out of proportion but saying that they shouldn't have cared and that it was just fruit speaks to the fact that he just doesnt understand the full situation, which is perfectly fine given the fact that he isnt a racist white person or a black person who has been subjugated by these specific kinds of racist acts. But he cant tell others who do understand it and feel a certain way about it to just get over it.
If you step on my shoes you cant tell me how i should feel or react to it. I'll react the way I see fit.
I opened TH-cam app and it automatically played this video. I was gonna watch jknews first before kpop so im glad that i didn't have to do all the work to find the channel or go to notification.
Nahomi Santana you do as you commented lol
He shouldn't of been fired, too many sensitive people
The more I watch JK, the more I realize that Joe is the most reasonable and knowledgeable one out of all of them.
A. J. Big Fact
All because of a thicc ass fruit
Vuyo Mareko it was indeed a thicc melon 😏
Robert Pattinson? WTF
V Schwarz lmaooooo
Amirite?😂
im glad someone noticed i thought i was trippin
jo's love for watermelon is real😂😂😂😂
He was ironically fired 🤣🤣🤣
White firefighter brings watermelon = instantly fired
Cop of any race using brutality = yeah, we sent him away for a little while but don't worry, he's paid.
I might just be high asf but the cast of JKN gives me a medieval times kind of feel. Like Bart is the king of the castle , Geo is the queen, Tiffany is the princess, David is the jester , Joe is the knight, and Julia is the blacksmith or something.
Man you guys never fail to make me crack up constantly. I used to be a sourcefed junky, but you're weirder and more uncensored. Me likey
WATERmelon... FIREhouse. That woulda been my cop out
I LOVE DAVID!!!!! He always sees through this "racist" BS. People cry wolf so much it makes the real issues seem like 'over-reactions'
I totally agree with David. I am so annoyed when people get offended of off the stupidest things 💩
Lmao Geo said “who doesn’t like donuts?” with a donut behind her head
I am not Asian and In my culture they eat chicken feet too. So I don't see how that only relates to Asian .maybe I just don't know that stereotype maybe it just isn't as widespread as the watermelon stereotype . I do see how Watermelon relates to black culture bc it was a racial stereotype for black people . The fruit was used to symbolize black people it was used to symbolize many of the same qualities as it was in post emancipation America the messiness of eating the fruit and how it is unwanted in public presence . It is a literal stereotype for black people and degrade them . However , I don't think the person should have been fired simply for bringing a watermelon and I think he was probably low-key fired for another reason and this was simply an excuse
keke F yeah Hispanics (or at least in some Hispanic countries) we eat chicken feet. I don't particularly like it but my parents do. Honestly they eat almost every part of the animal, nothing goes to waste
keke F in my dad’s youth in Jamaica he ate chicken feet, but I think it’s bc it’s most if not all of Asia, do they eat chicken feet. Basically you’d find it to be a more common food in the Asian community than anywhere else... I think...
Carla Rivera I'm Mexican and we eat chicken feet too. Especially in soup 😛
We ate chicken feet in Jamaica as well it's actually quite common.
I love David in this episode! hahah he is saying like everything I want to say! haha.
ok, forget this watermelon stuff, is no one going to talk about how the fired fireman's name is Robert Pattinson ?
who cares, I'm Sonali and people says that we love bananas all the time , and hell yeah it's true. 😂😂😂😂😂
I'm with David on this
Every time I eat watermelon I think of you Joe. Haha love ya
If you don't like watermelon, something is wrong with you
Thank you David.
I can't stop laughing over the picture of the thing
Bless David
I agree with David 100%. Dear God, people are over sensitive when there is no need to be.
David doesn't know how big the watermelon stereotype is. He lives in California. Down south I hear that shit all the time.
There is a long history of racist cartoons with Black people and watermelon
anyone know where tiff’s shirt is from?!?!!
Dude Julia's face was so pissed when David canceled out her idea about the climate so fast 😂😂
I love everything about this video
my dad’s friend is a firefighter in detroit and he said that the white guy had issues in his last job and that he did this on purpose.
It was probably an ice breaker to warm up to all the firefighters and become friends.
Just because racism is open in another culture doesn't mean it should be tolerated
cant wait for "jeremy lin vs kenyon martin' on JKNews. tis gon be good
The backstory of watermelon and black people stereotype was because back in the late 1800’s after the civil war and slaves were freed, watermelon was one of the the few agricultural crops African-Americans were able to grow in the south. And after that the rest became history
i love this discussion
Geo got fucking shot down 😂😂😂
David made the most sense here guys
Tiffany always looks like she's got anxiety. Ugh. Feel your pain girl.
The ACLU should get involved. This is ridiculous. Bring watermelon to any party I'm hosting.
great video you guys are awesome
9:28 😂👌
13:57 but that Chinese commercial was a copy of an Italian commercial. I wonder if that Italian commercial was also deemed offensive or racist.
Dude.....David wins this argument by a landslide.
I agree with David so much in this video, watermelon is da bomb and no one should question bringing watermelon.
Idk why but i keeping thinking its ironic because he brought a WATERmelon to a FIRE station
Here in italy you can find chicken feet in supermarkets
Putting a bow on a watermelon is cute as shit
I like that people are fighting for each other, but sometimes they reach too much and make real problems seem less
Love you David
If you aren't a racist person... you aren't always thinking of things to avoid being racist... like if you aren't racist, you don't watermelon can be a racist thing to bring. Like it's a fucking fruit.
He probably just got fired because the higher ups were scared of having some backlash. Not because a lot of people were offended.
True
I fucking love David. Its just a fruit
"IIiiiiiIii lLlllLoooooOOVeeee WwwWwaATerMmmmEeeloooN"- Joe 2017
I couldn't agree more with David on just about everything.
It's always context that matters
Is this a reupload or did I just see this elsewhere?
Preach David!
Dag Nabbit now I just see a bunch of triangles in the background. .... Thanks Joe.
I 100% agree with David. Now let's discuss something that is more pressing.
Firefighters can apply to a station, but that doesn't automatically mean that's where they'll be assigned.
I didn't even know that there was a Mexican included in that ad, also when Joe said blackjack and 21 I was like 2ne1 come back
Yes david.. preach...
A guy in my brother's unit got in a lot of shit for being racist. My brothers told me that in the army(and maybe other branches) everyone is seen as a soldier instead of race or skin color. I wish I could have gone into the military.
just send that firehouse watermelon randomly for a while
He is 41, he knew!
I’m a rapist? I fucking hate watermelon lmaooooo
Water melon is a stereotype for black people because during the slave times, the slave owners would give them watermelon because it served as water for hydration and food for nutrients. It was very cheap method for the slave owners.
These people in this article think they are fighting stereotypes but they are only fueling them
I love jknews!!!!!'
My moms friend absolutely hates watermelon, she can even smell it, but she also hates cucumbers too.
People are always shocked when They find out I don't like Watermelon
'Hawk down hawk down'
I ❤️ JKNews and watch you guys daily for years BUT I just had to sit through TWO, 2 minute NON-skippable videos for the 1st time WITHIN your video! We know you can choose the type of ad length, etc within your own video. Please spare us the non-skip ad option -Signed, JKNewsWatcher P.S. The stigmatism of watermelon and black people can be seen in the constant portrayal in benial movies and cartoons in history. Immersion can be seen as acted by the black crows in Disney movies or the term "black face" where blacks are stereotyped as a certain look. People tie all of that together. To me, it's just watermelon but to others it is the calculated history.
im personally not offended, but i don't think david has the right to tell anyone what they should and shouldn't get offended over
He was just giving his opinion.
I mean, that's true. Maybe this black person holds watermelon as a symbol of racism because they had experienced it before, or their old relatives had. We all perceive things differently. However, the true argument here imo is was the consequence well deserved? I think not. The firefighters could've easily had a mature discussion to let the white firefighter know that his joke wasn't cool, and warn him.
We dont know the context so it makes it tricky to comment, hearing it it doesn't sound like it should be offensive but its just very unusual so we dont know.
LMAO Robert Pattinson brought the watermelon?! xDD
Fireman becomes a fired man.
Better remind Casey to order that African American Coffee, Tiff
The world is slowly turning into a "Black Mirror" episode
I don’t like donuts.......BUT I LOVE WATERMELONS