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- Before a festival in Bonn/Germany I met Mike Mangini in a cigar lounge at a hotel. This can easily be described as one of the most mesmerizing drumtalks for me since you can tell that Mike really put a lot of effort in the best answers he could come up with. Regardless if it's about a technique or an opinion -- his way of analyzing issues and putting them in words is both impressive and a source of knowledge. Thanks to Mike for a great afternoon!
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I took lessons from Mike Mangini for a semester at Berklee... such a nice guy.
You lucky little...
I really want to meet that guy.
im going to a show in march
I bet he’s phenomenal to learn from! Seems like he has the patience of jobe.
@@unclemonster48 yeah patience is the most important for a any teacher
09:22 - 12:40 THANK YOU. I can't even count the amount of times I've had my style of music shit on by jazz guys. And the thing that makes it hurt more, is, I actually really enjoy and admire jazz drumming! It's truly a difficult style to master, and I work on trying to learn jazz chops as well as incorporate some of them into my own music (primarily metal, and some prog), just as much as metal chops. I just naturally write in the style of metal, so I play in that genre. It wouldn't make sense for me to be throwing my loud-ass double kick chops all over a jazz band, and I know a jazz drummer wouldn't cut it for my loud-ass metal band, and all in all, neither of us would necessarily be happy in those settings. I've dabbled in light rock and some lighter genres of music, and I just don't feel the same satisfaction as I do after playing my heart out playing a metal set. It doesn't mean I don't respect it, though. There's no need for one style of player to shit on the other styles. Also, genre aside, MANGINI IS AMAZING.
Yep. I love Prog Metal Bands and Stuff like Dream Theater and even sometimes I love simple music like Ed Sheeran or Woodkid. In Germany there are many Jazz workshops especially for drums and I took part and Everyone said that i have to be open to other music styles. Today after playing the drums for 10 years I'am able to play styles from Jazz, to Funk, Latin and Metal. But the people who said this to me, the people that said that my music is not enough to learn from can play just Jazz.... Did they open for some metal beats? I listen even to classic music like Bach. I love every Style of music if it comes from the heart. The only thing I hate is when music becomes commercial shit that is written without soul.
BuddhistDrummer yeah I agree, I've noticed that "siding" in the drumming world, people should just respect everyone's taste 👍
Yes! This is how people should live life. What he said basically applies to all social situations and all people, Mike 4 prez!
Being honest, high level swing really takes a tremendous amount of skill and anything those drummers can do, they can pretty much do in the metal scene. The skills a solid jazz drummer can pull off is just levels above. However, mikes message is true about respect, and i will also reiterate, a lot of people call them selves jazz drummers because they can play a bit of swing or have laid down a few tracks, they are not true jazz musicians in my opinion, and the same for most people who play multi styles. Not often do you get someone who can play high level in different genres, even guys like Vinnie C could not play good swing music to save their lives, so i think sometimes certain purists blow shit out of proportion.
Words right out of my mouth, man. Props to you for following your musical instinct!
His passion is contagious. It's amazing listening to him speaking about music, such a pleasure from a great musician.
He really is inspirational in an infectious way, isn't he! LOL
Best channel, you're the only ones who can really interview a musician 100%
thanks mate! really appretiate!!
Yeah! And treating a drummer like a musician!
He's obsessed about everything he puts his mind to
That's why he's successful
I remembre being introduced to Mangini through Annihilator. Great artist. The most painful thing of this video is hearing how shot LaBrie’s voice is...
Mike is criticized too much for the wrong reason (by sour DT fans who still hang on to MP). As humble and dedicated as he is MM is one of the most amazing talented drum masters around!! Just a few, like Minneman, Lang, Peart can even with him.
I am not a fan of dream theater to be biased by anything related to them. But the more I hear Mike Mancini talk, the more I relate to him. I saw one interview where portnoy said the music was becoming stale at times. And Petrucci looked at him like, what the fuck? Mancinii knows that the music is what you make it.
Peart is a street musician in comparison. But that's beside the point. It's a shame how badly Mangini is newsted'ed. Poor mixing and editing and soulless tone is result of someone else. That Annihilator speed snare doesn't work with DT.
I actually have a reasoning, why i do not particularely like Mangini in DT.
He is technical, talented and INSANELY fast, but sterile.
Not always and to be fair and honest, the new album finally shows, what he can do here imho, but compared to what he is capable of and what he actually did so far, there has been more "meh", than "This is great!" for me and this "Meh!"-feeling is so much amplified by the knowledge, what Mangini is capable of, but doesn't do.
And here is where the definition of "Drum Master" comes into play for me. A "Drum Master", or legendary drummer, isn't defined by his talent, or skill.
There are a lot of drummers out there, i would consider legendary, where a lot of people would be like "This guy? Everyone can play that! Mangini is far more skilled, than him!".
1.) If everyone can play it, then why does it sound garbage in 90% of the cases?
2.) Everyone may be able to play it...but only a handful of drummers are able to COME UP WITH IT and THAT is what defines a legend!
You can be skilled and talented as hell. You can play fast as lightening, or do some insane timing-tricks...all that doesn't matter, if it still sounds boring!
And for the record: I don't just think, that Mangini sounded sterile, i also think, that the other members of DT lost some creativity.
@@IncapableLP yes he is very skilled .. no one can even him..... bt reality is he is boring as hell.. im not a DT or MP fan but ortnoy is more fun watching doing solo
Why are none DT fans here lmao.
All I want for christmas is a girlfriend who talks about me like Mike Mangini talks about drums...
Such an awesome drummer and seems like a really nice guy. And I love his accent!
Mike's point on other styles of music needs to be taught to everyone. Not just musicians.
I like Mike Mangini, he knows his craft, and is very open minded about all aspects of drumming. What a positive personality.
Very good and interesting video! The more I hear Mangini talking, the more I respect him. He really is a genius...
17:18 - 22:09
Describing theory of mind and the concept of scaffolding by Lev Vygotsky. Absolutely paramount when teaching or communicating in general effectively. Mad respect.
AWESOME INTERVIEW! Mike Mangini is NOT only an incredible Drummer but a very humble person and very understanding of what it takes and the sacrifice that one makes to really follow your heart. CHEERS!
The espresso was a good thing.
You playing with Toto was also a good thing. Well played in Sweden!
@@erikondrums😂 Thanks!
genius.. intellectual.. logical.. humble.. what else? this is MM!!
9:23 Thank you very much, as an extreme metal drummer myself and being practicing different styles of music, Thank you very much for your words my good sir
This man is a genius! And the video is beautifully produced. Thanks!
thank you Andrés!
Good words spoken here. I’ve always respected the talent but now I respect the outlook as well.
Interview with a gentleman. Great stuff.
Having studied with Mike, this is a great interview that touches on the most crucial subjects. He IS all that and more. Thank you, from the bottom of my heart for an incredible chat with Mike. Cheers! (His Quincy, MA former neighbor)
I met Mike during the April 16 show of The Astonishing Tour in Toronto and, after telling him that he was my biggest influence, he gave me some incredible advice and it has made me a better drummer. I will continue taking his advice and continue growing with the advice of gold he gave me. Such a humble, awesome guy and absolutely one of the best drummers going
yees please tell us
tell me now please
A gentleman doesn't kiss and tell
did u kiss mike mangini?
Lol. You guys are funny. His advice to me is kinda secret. I haven't told anyone. If I make it big, I'll let all know ;)
One the best drum interview that i'we ever seen , soo deep
one of the wisest drummers ever. what a great guy. Great perspective one losing chops over time an reinventing yourself, I think we've all been there
Mike is a phenomenal musician. One of the greatest of our time.
An unbelievably wise man. I love Mangini's speeches about being a musician and being a "human".
I haven´t finished yet, but hearing just a couple of minutes of this interview makes grow my respect for Mr. Mangini as a musician in a colossal way! lml!
cool!
I would love to sit down and have a cup of coffee and talk drums with this guy all day. Mike the man! Rules!
Zvika Mark
Great drummer, and I like every word that was said here.
Such an amazing person! His dedication is beyond amazing, and he is such an inspiration for me.
Love the way MM thinks.
What a wonderful interview. He is just mesmerizing to watch and to hear him speak about everything. Truly an inspiration!
Most of the the drum parts are from MP time! I respect MM so much for his honesty and for been so humble but those parts played by him stills sound "different" for some reason that i can't explain! That's why the music is so fascinating! Great Channel! Thank you!
He’s so self aware and intelligent.
When people say "this style of music doesn't have feeling" it usually means it doesn't have the feelings they are used to. Metal is about transforming violence into music to different degrees. Most people are not used to music expressing violent feelings (aggression, speed, loudness, etc.) so they get their panties in a twist while most metal fans I know find the expression of those feelings through music cathartic.
I love Mike’s passion!! Saw his audition and became a fan - I’ve not heard a Dream theatre song but he’s inspirational! Thanks, Mike!
HE IS TRULY A LIVING LEGEND.HIS SKILL AND SPEED IS SECOND TO NONE!!
An annihilator reference?
I love how humble and down to earth Mr. Mangini is. Fame hasn't gone to his head. He seems to still have that child like enthusiasm and wonder to playing drums still intact. He has such a knowledge for musicianship. I love how he doesn't have a narrow mind towards all different genres of music. That is extremely rare these days
I would love him as drum teacher, he seems to have a lot of empathy for fellow drummers
Great stuff. The man's skills are only exceeded by his passion.
Mike Mangini helps me grow as a musician.Thank you for being such an inspiration. I learned a lot form this interview!
awesome!
I absolutely learned a lot too doing and editing this interview
I love the way he talks
I read in a guitar magazine 20+ years ago that never take music as a competition. ...and if you play a "wrong" note play it twice, like you meant to do it on purpose.
There still is this Who Is Faster? feeling among the shredder guitar community.
Best drum interview iv'e heard, well rounded musician.
Loved his work with annihilator
He's right on the money with everything he says. The MAN!
What an amazing and beautiful work you have done with all these vídeos! I'm not a drummer but I enjoy delighted this material, we need interviews like these for every instrument! Deeply inspirational! Thanks a lot!
thank you so much!! however, there is an interview with Devin Townsend on my channel who can do everything but play the drums :-)
Damn this is a really amazing interview.
thank you very much
the only thing i want : one hour with him. . just to talk about the music , drum .. such a Amazing man ! thank for the interview Drum talk !
you're welcome sir!
The Espresso was at its peak when asked about "..."on the worst thing :)
Again, great interview!
I love Mangini. I saw him in a clinic and listened and was very impressed. he was skillful and funny and entertaining and knowledgable and such a great teacher and displayed the most amazing feel and technique. I don't want to be negative but I can't help but think he is better than this Dream Theatre band. he has more to offer. I don't think he'll stay with this band.
Thanks Mike a real great talk. Bless you.
How can you not like this guys personality and respect his insane skills? He has the real passion and understands "feel" doesn't mean simple, the more you know the more you can feel and emotionally express different music.
I've learned so much about life in one interview. wow so awesome
cool! now watch the others and then go and graduate big time :-)
drumtalk lol will do
What a freakin great interview! Thank you!
He is a Phenomenal Musician!! 1 of the Greatest!!
beautiful choice of words and concepts makes up for a beautiful interview
THIS INTERVIEW IS FREAKING AWESOME! Thanks Drumtalk and thanks Mike Mangini 8:45 - 12:40 it's just amazing
thanks! glad you got something out of it
foot work can definitely become an obsession.. safe to say Mangini doesn't use the swivel technique. if anyone can figure out a way to play 240bpm with the velocity of a rock drummer, it's Mangini lol. I've never seen someone so dedicated to drumming. it's an inspiration. thanks Mike.
Are you sure? Jojo Mayer can play 240 bpm with one foot using his power slide technique.
The guy is a Very Clever and Dedicated Musician ... lots of respect for his work ethic and his Moral compass.
Excellent chops and all round nice guy..
Seen him about 20 years ago with Steve Vai. He was unbelievable!!
He is really a guy that feels the need to explain everything, must be somekind of obsession to be reaaly understood. I get that, i feel like that sometimes. If i communicate well, with effort and enought patient to do it i also feel like its makes it easier to people get my way of thinking and how well can people judge or have an opinion about something i think or i do.
Monster drummer. Beautiful soul. Good bless him even more...
He's really a genius...
I absolutely love Mike Mangini! His style is incredible. Great interview. Thanks for sharing.
Really enjoyed this interview. Thanks a lot for this :)
What a great guy and great drummer. I just love his energy & personality, and his humility. Fascinating interview.
He must be a fantastic teacher.
I think he was a teacher or professor before he joined Dream Theater ;D
Oddly enough, he was a professor at exact college that John Petrucci, Mike Portnoy, and John Myung were attending in 1985. That's where those 3 met and formed the group that would become Dream Theater.
He IS a Fantastic teacher.
He was an amazing teacher to me. Many lessons were deep conversations like this. Philosophy behind what he was teaching me.
This is what I needed
You must have known what questions to ask and how to put him at ease. What a superb interview. Mangini is one of a kind and deserves more interviews like this. Could listen to him all day.
thanks man! I always prepare myself to have good questions -- the rest is about chemistry, schedule, location etc.
here everything was in sync :-)
agreed. man I would love to sit down and pick his brain. What a guy to talk to.
Absolutely correct, you can't just show people how to do things. There is always a lot more going on that needs to be explained. My instructors normally hated me asking the why questions. Why are you doing that, why are you doing it that way. Those questions must be answered or they won't "get it". What a great guy, drummer and teacher!!!
Probably the closest I can get to learning something valuable from a really dedicated musician and teacher.
Mangini is a phenomenal teacher and inspirational speaker, not just one of the great drummers! It says a lot about Portnoy that it was such an event to replace him (not dissimilar to the scenario if Buddy Rich had left his orchestra lol!). It says even more about Mangini's strength and character to be able to step into his shoes with grace and sophistication! It's taken me some time, and have seen both live with DT, but I now really dig Mangini as Portnoy's replacement. He's so good you forget he's there, because he has seamlessly joined the band, but definitely has his own sound and charisma! God bless the two Mike's-both equals.
Great talk!
I'm going through the same thing with my feet. 32nd notes at 144 bmp was no problem in 2003. Today, I'm relearning the stroke, and balance... I feel like an amateur.
Great show!!!
I think this man is on a level of being some kind of savant. Just a genius. Very smart. When he talks, you just listen and learn. Incredible drummer. Incredible human being.
[Edit] - He not only has a good understanding of music, he also has a high understanding of the mind, spirituality, human mechanics, instrument mechanics (not just drums). He's just connected to everything around him. He knows how to do that.
i love how is he.
we love you mike !!!
Love this dude. Friggin beast!
I agree so much about what he said about prejudice in music. I would get so disgusted, even with musicians I like and admired, that would show prejudice about certain kinds of music, and, or certain kinds of playing. In the early nineties, a lot of players I liked, like Santana or Bill Bruford on speed metal players, saying how they are playing a thousand notes a second without feeling. You don't know if it has feeling for them. They didn't put all the work into playing like that, without feeling, it is just another kind of felling you cannot relate to. Even though I resisted people telling me to play in ways they thought were cool at the time, I never developed prejudice about any kind of playing. If I didn't like it, I didn't have to listen to it, but I am not going to tell them what to play. People feel things different.
What a great guy
This a great channel! Thank you! I get the sense people are attacking Mike. Whenever you're the best,haters leak out
I don't how about to criticzice MM, i wished to having in my younger Age a Teacher like him. I like to listen him for hours, how he talks about Drumming and the Philosophy behind it. All my Respect to Mr Mangini
Love this guy so much! Ah, Mangini ❤️
Humble guy. Genuine.
An excellent teacher in addition to his demonstrated talent as an artist.
You hear all the top percussionist say the same thing, from brushes to disco to country all deserve respect from a musician and a performers aspect. Own the gig whatever it requires, and be prepared.
thanks mr mike mangini your very best number 1 interview to date brand new 2016 in germany thanks m m and drum talk the bomb
thank u bruce
Mike was doing a clinic somewhere in a Boston music store in the late 90's,so the clerk at the store told me and a friend I was with.This friend is a real wise guy. After the clerk told us,'Mike Mangini is coming to the store' my friend says,'Oh yeah..? What's he making?'
Amazing interview! Thank you for the love for music Drumtalk.
Greetings from Portugal!
you're welcome! thanks for stopping by
Nice guy with passion.
Such a nice bloke. Love this dude.
Mike is a cool cat. Love this interview.
Mike point about digging into detail on explaining things when teaching, is so under-rated. He is fundamentally right about it. I do find his reasoning on his fast single strokes interesting, when you compare what he's talking about in technique to what Marco Minneman talks about , it's two totally different ways of handling the same problem.
Very beautiful point of view, great to respect all kinds of music and take something new with you.
Super Awesome Amazing Drummer, but a Super Awesome Honest Guy! Telling like it is and why. Requires a measure of humbleness to admit certain skills have faded. But honest in mentioning time constraints, life, family and how to re attain skills by 'chipping away" plus using technology. A very good formula for success and goal achievement. A great example for all drummers. Open minded and respectful of everyone's musical taste. A progressive thinker and intellect. A master drummer and example for all.
i think this is a question that every person should ask to musician at their masterclass or clinics. its not about about technique,gears, and stuff like that. its about how to approach the drum itself which is its something that is not written on the book and its something that is easy ro find, great content drumtalk! thank you very much for the content, i think its what every drummer need
my pleasure! agree 100%!
yeah...totally. Ignorance is a choice. Man, his speech was perfect. He is a true teacher indeed.
Genius best interview enjoyed it.
Mike Mangini , Master thank you.
Thanks guys! This is what applied academics sound like!