10 TV Shows That Weren't Worth The Controversy

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  • @chodysplatts
    @chodysplatts 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    i remember when WhatCulture made good videos

  • @lordjubilus
    @lordjubilus 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +46

    just journalist and people that dont read comics were mad with the iron fist casting

    • @rhyswallace3590
      @rhyswallace3590 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      That was and still is ridiculous and Marvel bent the knee to those cry babies and killed him off and replaced him.

    • @elmobg
      @elmobg 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You “are” a bigot 😂

    • @CLDJ227
      @CLDJ227 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@rhyswallace3590 Did they? I don't recall that 🤨.

    • @CLDJ227
      @CLDJ227 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @lordjubilus actually there were some comic readers of Iron Fist that understood the controversy from what I remember 🤔.

    • @rhyswallace3590
      @rhyswallace3590 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@CLDJ227 read the current comics they stripped him of his powers and now he's killed off.

  • @JoeSmith-gk8rp
    @JoeSmith-gk8rp 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +83

    Velma sucked because it was just bad

    • @thewhitewolf58
      @thewhitewolf58 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      It was anti art.

    • @JoeSmith-gk8rp
      @JoeSmith-gk8rp 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      @@thewhitewolf58 it was hot garbage served on a bed of trash picked from the closest dumpster fire

    • @thewhitewolf58
      @thewhitewolf58 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@JoeSmith-gk8rp like I said anti art. More of a way of making fun of it because people who do anti art tend to do low effort trash and act like they are the coming of christ.

    • @beautifulmidnight
      @beautifulmidnight 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      My favourite thing about Velma was the right wing idiots yelling about how the show was made for leftists, and leftists immediately responding “No, this is trash, my guy. We hate it.”
      And there was this weird, shining moment of harmony where right wing and left wing just agreed on something.

    • @fourlights
      @fourlights 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @JoeSmith-gk8rp And it written by activists who wanted to intentionally provoke.

  • @yourstruly4817
    @yourstruly4817 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +49

    1. Create quality entertainment
    2. Don't demonize 80% of your customers

    • @88COR88
      @88COR88 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      In the last number of years it has been the cry of every poorly written show: "It's not our incompetence! It's the toxic fans!" Fandom is a double edge sword: It gives you a built in audience that will hype up your offering.... unless your not true to the IP then they will be the loudest critics. Hollywood wants the money of fans but not the requirement to turn out quality. It's annoying how media outlets, like WhatCulture, will focus on the people who cry woke and not the majority of the criticism that is completely legitimate.

    • @CLDJ227
      @CLDJ227 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@@88COR88 To be fair, here she did bring up some of the actual criticism of the show and not just what the woke mobs said 🤔.

    • @no.9516
      @no.9516 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Being demonized and feeling demonized aren't the same thing.

  • @jahmd8377
    @jahmd8377 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

    I’m black and I hated Shaggy being made black in the Velma series. Does that make me a bigot? According to whatculture, yes.

    • @CLDJ227
      @CLDJ227 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Actually no, because What culture didn't say anyone was a bigot if they disliked that change. They just simply brought up that there were likely to be bigots that would complain about that change alone 🤔.

    • @jahmd8377
      @jahmd8377 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@CLDJ227 I’ll let you have that one.

    • @onionbubs386
      @onionbubs386 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That's not what they said 🙄

  • @joellim7521
    @joellim7521 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    "always upset the bigots".. lol..

    • @someOldBaldguy
      @someOldBaldguy 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      You caught that too huh. Lol

    • @joellim7521
      @joellim7521 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@someOldBaldguy I noticed how the criticism is always one sided. I wonder if they'll make similar comments about ppl having meltdowns over acolyte getting cancelled

    • @WinstonSmith19847
      @WinstonSmith19847 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Have you considered that people with bigoted opinions might be in the minority and that bigoted attitudes are not the norm in society and that's why channels like this don't cater for those viewpoints ? ​@@joellim7521

  • @rhyswallace3590
    @rhyswallace3590 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

    The Iron Fist controversy never should've happened. It was and still is ridiculous.

    • @CLDJ227
      @CLDJ227 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Why is that? Not arguing just asking 🤔.

    • @rhyswallace3590
      @rhyswallace3590 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@CLDJ227 people were angry they didn't cast an Asian actor to play Danny Rand even though the character was white in the comics. People bullied the actor off Twitter and launched a smear campaign against him, the show and the character. Even though the Character never actually symbolized anything Racist or cultural appropriation. In fact the character largely rejected the harmful stereotypes he was accused of perpetuating but nobody listened. Marvel caved to the criticism and eventually replaced him in his own show and in the comics too. They recently celebrated the 50th anniversary of the character by killing him off.

    • @edgecrusher018
      @edgecrusher018 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      The controversy was, indeed, stupid. But the show was also terrible.

    • @joellim7521
      @joellim7521 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@rhyswallace3590 ppl were just getting upset without knowing the source.. if the source is so offensive, don't use the character..respect the source material.

    • @CLDJ227
      @CLDJ227 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@rhyswallace3590 They killed him off and replaced him in the comics? If so that's pretty unnecessary 🤔.
      Same with bullying actors or camping that hard. Even if I do get why people wanted an Asian lead.
      I think most people that wanted that were aware of Danny Rand being white in the comics, but they thought it would be more interesting to have him be portrayed by an Asian in the show. One, to Asian actors more roles and two, to avoid the typical orientalism story thing.
      I.E. a white character learns some eastern thing and becomes better at it than the people in that culture sort of thing 🤔.

  • @jamesglenn9142
    @jamesglenn9142 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +35

    wtf is the point of this? “7 times fans need to get over creators shitting on them”.
    isnt this a channel about enthusiasts.

    • @JohnClam
      @JohnClam 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      The point is explaining the shows are so bad that they were forgotten within days of their cancellation and never were worth getting upset over in the first place....not sure how that's hard to understand

    • @khatdubell
      @khatdubell 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@JohnClam The shows were bad because they tried to cater to the mythical "MODERN AUDIENCE" that doesn't exist.
      That take also ignores the fact that people were upset about the shows _before_ the aired.
      People didn't get upset over them _after_ they were canceled and forgotten, so its a d.u.m.b take all around.

    • @CLDJ227
      @CLDJ227 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@@khatdubell Are you referring to the video? because she brought all of those points you mentioned up lol.

    • @Bassquake76
      @Bassquake76 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@JohnClam They got cancelled because people voiced their dislike. Otherwise theyd still be making utter crap like acolyte and expecting us to be happy about it just because of the star wars label.

    • @joellim7521
      @joellim7521 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@JohnClam except they miss out the part that some of the shows attacked the fanbase.. the creators aren't exactly innocent here

  • @xXAnbuJeeryXx
    @xXAnbuJeeryXx 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    Who ever came up with this video needs to stick to stories they care more about, and let other journalists who are interested, do the stories.

    • @geeloco1600
      @geeloco1600 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      What do you do?

    • @xXAnbuJeeryXx
      @xXAnbuJeeryXx 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @geeloco1600 I'm a consumer, and when the video's I'm consuming aren't matching my hunger, I go back to the restaurant and explain to them what was wrong. Similar to this video. Now your turn what do you do?

    • @geeloco1600
      @geeloco1600 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@xXAnbuJeeryXx you literally didn’t say anything specific that was wrong just crying like a child for no reason, grow up a bit kid watch something else

    • @geeloco1600
      @geeloco1600 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@xXAnbuJeeryXx I work in a factory like a grown man, we aren’t the same boy

    • @xXAnbuJeeryXx
      @xXAnbuJeeryXx 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @geeloco1600 lmao you thought you knew me, I work as an innound lead at fedex every night I unload trucks. Then I turn big pallets into little pallets. I register every item into the system, then I put it away for shipping for people like you. Then for fun I get to go through returns that are 99.9% trash people sent us, just to get a refund, and free products. So yeah you really think you know everyone.

  • @trinaq
    @trinaq 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    I actually liked "Rise of the Pink Ladies", and wished that we'd gotten at least one more season. Sure, it was riding in "Grease's" coattails, but was charming in its own right.

    • @deej5608
      @deej5608 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      FACTS

    • @dhenderson1810
      @dhenderson1810 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      It riding on "Grease" 's coattails is probably why it got greenlit in the first place.

  • @aporkpiepizza
    @aporkpiepizza 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Wow, is this Whatculture or BuzzFeed?

  • @JamieAlexander18
    @JamieAlexander18 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

    The Acolyte is badly written with contradictions, awful dialogue, poor plot and and just a bad show. Not to mention that the creators care more about ticking off prejudice viewers than to provide a good quality show for the true star war fans. Same thing with Doctor Who.

    • @Miller54K
      @Miller54K 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      You say prejudice viewers, I just say fans. Saying the main character in the Acolyte was garbage does not make them prejudice. Saying the "actress" was just garbage at acting does not make them prejudice.
      None of the problems people had with the show make them prejudice.

    • @JamieAlexander18
      @JamieAlexander18 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Miller54K okay stop. There are prejudice viewers watching. Don't deny it. There are literal people who hate the diversity and cast members for being a certain group of people. And I didn't say every viewer was prejudice. I am talking about the small group of viewers that were prejudice. You haven't paid enough attention to the comments that people have made online.

    • @KAPAFlyer
      @KAPAFlyer 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I'll be honest, I didn't care to watch the show, but reading up on the Showrunner (despite her being Weinstein's Assistant) and what her intentions were......she had some genuinely interesting ideas. She genuinely wanted to ask questions and "challenge the norms" without going full "The Last Jedi".
      The problem was, I'm sure Kathleen Kennedy has a little too much of a say in how things went.
      Thus, we got what we got.

  • @mclovinU2night
    @mclovinU2night 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    What culture just wants the comment support for bad writing, on and off set abuse, and horrible acting

  • @beatrixdobson4795
    @beatrixdobson4795 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Lethal Weapon was a great TV show and Clayne Crawford's performance helped me out of a very bad depression I was stuck in so for me it's always going to be one off my favourite TV shows (until they killed off Riggs).

    • @HariSeldon913
      @HariSeldon913 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      You'd probably like his guest appearances on Leverage, particularly The Last Dam Job.

    • @beatrixdobson4795
      @beatrixdobson4795 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@HariSeldon913 Thanks, I'll make sure to check it out.

    • @Darthalas
      @Darthalas 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yeah I rather enjoyed that television show, I thought it was very unnecessary when it first came out but I gave it a shot. Killing Riggs in that way really was putting the nail in the coffin for it though.

  • @AfroGaz71
    @AfroGaz71 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +50

    Whatculture defending poor TV shows by trying their best to dress them up as mediocre is the typical milquetoast fare that has seen their viewership drop of a cliff.

    • @user-lg6mh3hl3g
      @user-lg6mh3hl3g 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Why are you so gullible and bitter?

    • @AfroGaz71
      @AfroGaz71 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      @@user-lg6mh3hl3g I don't think you know what the word gullible means. 😂

    • @user-lg6mh3hl3g
      @user-lg6mh3hl3g 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@AfroGaz71 I don't use words just for the fun of it

    • @silvestrecordero1049
      @silvestrecordero1049 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      He definitely nailed the bitter part

    • @bradmays1171
      @bradmays1171 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@silvestrecordero1049this nobody with 10 subscribers is talking like WC should be taking advice from him and using words he probably saw for the first time this morning on a calendar 😂

  • @aquabuddha
    @aquabuddha 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    This is a weird list. Most of the time, the controversy around a show consists of the things that make it terrible or mid. That blowback is why shows like Halo and Lethal Weapon get cancelled, instead of endlessly renewed.
    I also don't understand the idea that anyone who dislikes a creator going out of their way to change the gender, personality, or ethnicity of an already established character is automatically a bigot.

    • @DualDexx
      @DualDexx 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I think she's trivializing the issue of Velma by saying it relied heavily on simple snarky and meta humor and find it extremely insulting. Snarky and Meta humor can be good. Actively insulting your audience by implying the people who like scooby doo are bigoted idiots both in and outside of the show is not okay. Additionally, the race of the characters had nothing to do with why most of us hated the show, it was her character's whiney, cruel, insulting, holier-than-thou attitude and personality is what made us hate it.

  • @stratuvarious8547
    @stratuvarious8547 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    In what way is it "racist" to have a character of non-Asian origin be a martial artist? Martial arts is a combat style that isn't a culture and to act like you can't have a white, black, or other master a martial art is in itself, racist. Sure, Iron Fist wasn't a good show, but it didn't deserve the controversy that it got, there are other martial art heroes in Marvel Comics, Shang Chi for one. And as i recall, his movie didn't do to well either.

    • @moses9647
      @moses9647 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Shang Chi was no Avengers but it did make 430M on a budget of about 150M so it was at least prpfitable. I agree the racial element shouldnt have been controversial given the source material but that was the least of that shows problems

    • @no.9516
      @no.9516 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      This week on " modern cope that tries to justify mid century racism "

    • @17thchopper
      @17thchopper 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      ​@@no.9516What's the racism?

    • @Joemama55122
      @Joemama55122 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@17thchopper there isnt any and ironically saying the white martial artist character should be played by an Asian actor is racist in a way

    • @CLDJ227
      @CLDJ227 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I don't think anyone called Iron Fist racist. However, the complaints about a white character learning martial art plays into a typical orientalism trope of a "white guy learns some mystical Asian thing and becomes more of a master at it than them", and therefore that's where the complaints may come from.
      In addition, some people thought it would be a good opportunity for an Asian actor to lead that show and that there could possibly be a much more interesting story there 🤔.

  • @46sn29
    @46sn29 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    "The fact that Velma was reimagined as south asian and shaggy as black was always gonna irritate the bigots"
    And just like that, you lost any shred of credibility with this video. It is not "bigoted" to call out blatent pandering or in Velma's case, self inserts.

    • @altaylor6321
      @altaylor6321 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      100% it's bad that Iron Fist didn't change the main guy to Asian, but it's good that Shaggy was changed to a black guy?!

    • @46sn29
      @46sn29 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @altaylor6321 The funny thing is I'm Asian and I would have absolutely hated that. Stop giving me hand me down white characters. It's pandering and it's disingenuous representation meant only to make themselves feel good like they did me some kind of favor.

  • @someOldBaldguy
    @someOldBaldguy 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Getting upset at race swapping beloved characters isn’t bigotry.
    This channel is littered with sprinkles of “the message”

  • @kennethlauer6396
    @kennethlauer6396 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The Controversy stems from those of us who disliked the likes of the Acolyte, Velma, Rings of Power, and Grease because they were low-tier works being called bigots for absolutely no reason!

  • @Amizare1
    @Amizare1 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Ellie literally has no idea what she's talking about.

  • @TBransby94
    @TBransby94 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The script for this video is really odd

  • @lucaskobain
    @lucaskobain 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    So Ellie likes to blame white hetero males, but wouldn't mention the awful whiny girl side story in Halo

    • @MollyMcLaughlin
      @MollyMcLaughlin 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Because it’s always the white man’s fault.

  • @dobby9996
    @dobby9996 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

    The Rings of Power is one of the worst tv shows on now. It disrespected the lore of the most beloved fantasy series of all time, it disrespects Tolkien by daring to think it can do a better story, the entire ad campaign boiled down to just attacking the fans and talking about how they have black people in it instead of listening to genuine fan criticism about the trash show and it's lore destruction, the acting was awful, the dialogue laughable, the pacing... well it was just a bloody snore fest. And since only 37% of people finished the series how can you claim it was OK? Typical shill media. Stop being bought out by big studios and have some integrity. The less said about The Acolyte the better

    • @bradmays1171
      @bradmays1171 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      😢

    • @dhenderson1810
      @dhenderson1810 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Isn't all fan fiction based on thinking you can do better than the creator and director, though?
      You probably have your own stories you would like to see set in the LOTR universe. Does that mean you know better than Tolkien?
      I think art is partly meant to be built on, and add your own touches to it, to be improved on.

    • @boohankins2993
      @boohankins2993 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That show was better than Ambien! I never made it past episode 2 and i tried several times. God help the people who made it to the end! I can't believe they created a second season

    • @jamv2122
      @jamv2122 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@dhenderson1810 built on not torn apart and reassembled into something completely different rings of power took a massive dump on the lore and just went screw it.

  • @taylordudley3673
    @taylordudley3673 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    10 TV Shows That Weren't Worth The Controversy, while making a video about it. The irony is not lost

  • @MysteicVoltronus
    @MysteicVoltronus 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I don't understand. Are you saying the controversies were dumb because they were, or are you saying they were a waste of time because the TV shows were clearly going to suck anyway?

  • @captaingroot5812
    @captaingroot5812 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    How you can get a halo live action tv show canceled after two seasons should really have its own documentary. Should’ve been a massive hit

  • @eazzy5822
    @eazzy5822 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Saying some of these shows are decent is a wild take considering how bad they are.

  • @CanesFan88
    @CanesFan88 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Felt like I was being lectured this entire video and I'm not even white.

  • @Shorty_Lickens
    @Shorty_Lickens 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Marvel spread too few good writers around too many shows. Daredevil was great but thats where all the best people ended up working and Iron Fist & Luke Cage got stuck with the leftovers.

    • @rhyswallace3590
      @rhyswallace3590 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Shorty_Lickens exactly!!!

  • @ericthompson3982
    @ericthompson3982 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    There was never going to be pleasing people with Iron Fist. Change the ethnicity of the lead, people are going to be pissed. Keep it unchanged, people are going to be pissed. It was lose/lose.

  • @connorapurcell
    @connorapurcell 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Wow, what happened to WhatCulture? Ick

  • @robertfeldmann542
    @robertfeldmann542 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    the narrator sounds angry that wokeness was not embraced

    • @MollyMcLaughlin
      @MollyMcLaughlin 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      She’s woke, so it makes sense.

    • @romanbullard1630
      @romanbullard1630 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yup she's full of shit

    • @SynthMusicWorld
      @SynthMusicWorld 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@MollyMcLaughlin define "woke," please.

    • @MollyMcLaughlin
      @MollyMcLaughlin 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@SynthMusicWorld you already know.

    • @onionbubs386
      @onionbubs386 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@MollyMcLaughlin not really, every time I ask I get a different answer, if I even get an answer, which I usually don't. So please, define woke.

  • @Legacyartist
    @Legacyartist 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I'm conflicted with this list on the one hand yeah these shows came out and disappeared with little fan fair and didn't deserve the wasted attention. But, on the other hand dismissing fan reactions because they want faith adaptations is pretty lazy hand waving. As far as the constant interjections of race swapping complaints an all encompassing remark at the beginning would have been enough. It was just as annoying to hear you bring up peoples anger at race swapping as it is to hear peoples opinions on race swapping.

  • @HardcandyofJustice
    @HardcandyofJustice 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Calling most of these shows “mediocre” is already showing the decline of this channel and lack of understanding of fans.

  • @VincentBurns-zq4zb
    @VincentBurns-zq4zb 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    you call people bigots because they don't want a woke change to classic characters? ridiculous, and typical.

    • @romanbullard1630
      @romanbullard1630 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The people behind this video including the narrator are full of shit

  • @MudSluggerBP
    @MudSluggerBP 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I’d love to see Mel Gibson in everything, just so I’d know it was pissing off all the lefty clowns out there 😂😂

  • @Ash-gv7uj
    @Ash-gv7uj 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    yes, there is a problem here. but it isnt the audiences. its people like you. It’s not that audience members are bigots at all, they are just sick of this shoe horned diversity, moreso when it just doesnt make sense,. the defense of the acolyte is unwarranted, especially when even die hard star wars fans have stated that its absolute garbage. Then theres velma, to sugggest that the weird race swapping of the characters being the issue is completely dishonest and i’m pretty sure youre fully aware of the many issues in that ridiculous mess. But its ok, you continue to call the audience disingenuous. i’ll just stick to non Ellie what culture content. At least the other hosts focus on the problems of the shows and not perceived problematic audiences.

    • @no.9516
      @no.9516 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Making the claim that zero bigotry contributed to many of these fake outrage sessions makes you lose credibility here.

    • @Ash-gv7uj
      @Ash-gv7uj 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@no.9516 That isn’t the issue. Yeah, people of all kinds of isms a phobics are out there and that may have contributed to a very small fraction of the dislike. But the root cause is that people are sick and tired of social and political activism in movies and tv shows.
      People want entertainment to enjoy, not to be constantly reminded of the real world. The clue there is that theyd watch news channels for that.
      theres a group of muppets pushing this and a slightly larger group that believe in it. The rest of society hates it.

  • @thegray5730
    @thegray5730 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Doctor Who...every season after Peter Capaldi.

  • @Dawhud
    @Dawhud 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    One of the things people don’t seem to realize is that a lot of these shows are basically content filler for streaming services.

  • @PJWestfield
    @PJWestfield 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The Idol was just so fucking bad. I couldn't get past the second episode.

  • @Joemama55122
    @Joemama55122 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    The political comments are insufferable as always

    • @MollyMcLaughlin
      @MollyMcLaughlin 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah I wish they’d report the news instead of inserting their bias.

    • @thesagebrushkid1
      @thesagebrushkid1 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ⁠@@MollyMcLaughlinit’s a channel about films and telly. There are plenty of channels that do the news, this isn’t one of them.

    • @MollyMcLaughlin
      @MollyMcLaughlin 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@thesagebrushkid1 that doesn’t give them permission to just insert their political opinions. They can talk about entertainment without doing so. Shocking I know, but it CAN happen.
      And “report the news” is an expression.

    • @thesagebrushkid1
      @thesagebrushkid1 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MollyMcLaughlin it’s a very misleading expression then, maybe check your language.
      And what gives them permission is freedom of speech. And freedom of the press. They’ve got as much as write to put this out as you do to complain about it.
      So Let’s be fair, there’s no agenda being pushed here, there’s no political charge, they didn’t cause the ‘controversies’ either just reported on them. And they looked at controversies from all angles; iron fist, ‘lefties’ being upset that dude’s not Asian, Velma ‘righties’ upset that Velma’s recast… Like what more do you want from a fluff piece video on crappy telly shows where people were getting upset over nothing? Or were you triggered by a certain word or term in the video? Just trying to understand because I’m not sure where your beef is coming from

    • @MollyMcLaughlin
      @MollyMcLaughlin 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@thesagebrushkid1 Okay.

  • @partofthetribe3277
    @partofthetribe3277 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Iron first wasn't bad

    • @LonewolfOfSD
      @LonewolfOfSD 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      First season was, the 2nd season improved quite a bit... but I guess it was too late.

    • @rhyswallace3590
      @rhyswallace3590 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@partofthetribe3277 it ruined the characters potential

  • @PookieMaliboo
    @PookieMaliboo 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    For the shows on this list that I've actually seen:
    Iron Fist, Danny Rand is the most well know Iron Fist, so it only made sense to use him.
    The Continental I completely forgot this even existed haha.
    Halo could have been great, but sadly...
    LoTR, well, when you make needless changes for dei, and ignore the lore its based on, this is the outcome.
    Acolyte, is was trash from the first 5min trough the finale, for countless reasons.

  • @shawncrego3253
    @shawncrego3253 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    so far i have to disagree with you about iron fist, the continental, halo, the acolyte were all great series, and i was looking forward to more

  • @MrFinster53
    @MrFinster53 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The hoopla around Iron Fist was just downright hilarious because it really shouldnt have been a thing REGARDLESS of the quality of the show. That was peak "people just looking for something to complain and be offended about". Because instead of demanding for them to cast an Asian actor, which ironically would be a case of putting an asian person in a stereotypical martial arts based role, why not demand more asian characters get used?

  • @GoofyOldGuyPlays
    @GoofyOldGuyPlays 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The shows had controversy. The shows sucked mainly because of the controvercial parts. The shows were canceled. Had issue one been addressed, the other two would probably have never happened.

  • @StevenSmith-yj6xq
    @StevenSmith-yj6xq 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Game of thrones should have been included

  • @Rattwap
    @Rattwap 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is it wrong that I kinda liked Velma? Yes, I know it’s garbage, but there. It’s a some fun to be had in the dumb, car crash humor.

  • @MaxWeb2599
    @MaxWeb2599 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It was maybe made in another period but for iron fist being white made an interesting story in the ultimate spider man series where scorpion was extra focused on him cause he was an outsider.
    Plus let's be real if they changed that part, the same amount of people would be angry for that not respecting the source material. That and some would scream things like "pandering" or "obeying the woke culture"(I mean many other shows on the list got that criticism) .

  • @magunn
    @magunn 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This channel is becoming a meme.

  • @sterlingcrawford1218
    @sterlingcrawford1218 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I didn't hate Iron Fist. I think it had promise, they just didn't do anything with it. And yeah, they probably should have done different casting

    • @rhyswallace3590
      @rhyswallace3590 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@sterlingcrawford1218 no the Production was the problem.

  • @davidsilvas9441
    @davidsilvas9441 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Bummer about Halo. Season 2 was a vast improvement over Season 1. What was season 1 about? I can't remember. I've watched Season 2 twice now. The Arbiter, The Flood and Reach. It was good, not great, but good.

  • @Chr0mate
    @Chr0mate 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Fandoms... not even once.

  • @Daeduluus
    @Daeduluus 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    LMAO at the ROP acceptable entertainment lol what the hell are you talking about, and the Acolyte here is hoping it is Willowed soon and it will no longer be canon

  • @JamesCRocks
    @JamesCRocks 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Of those I've watched I agree on "Iron Fist" and "Rings Of Power" but I like "The Acolyte" (never had a problem with women or colour or "wokeness") and I quite liked "Halo" although I've only watched the first season.

  • @empurress77
    @empurress77 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I liked the Halo series.
    Full disclosure: I don't care much about Halo the game.
    I liked some of Velma but it went way too much into a lame way too cruel plot over all.

  • @batgurrl
    @batgurrl 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love Mindy Kalin but Velma seems like unnecessary crap. As do most of these. Hollywood’s lack if creativity worsens consistently

  • @magstheonlyone
    @magstheonlyone 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Whatculture pulling a Looper, blaming the fans instead of the awful shows

  • @sarahcatherine9441
    @sarahcatherine9441 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Velma was just stupid, and annoying

  • @brorjordas1979
    @brorjordas1979 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Yup..
    Never even heard of most of these shows..😂😂 Controversies? ... Meh..

    • @no.9516
      @no.9516 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Your medal is in the mail

  • @MultiNotAnti
    @MultiNotAnti 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Why is it "irritating the bigots" when it's a a race swap like the one in Velma but when it's a race swap like the one from the live action Little Mermaid or the one from the live action Snow White (and countless others these days), it's diversity? Literally in this list was Iron Fist because the lead wasn't Asian and that's bad but then Shaggy being race swapped to black is fine and if you think it isn't that makes you a bigot...

  • @KAPAFlyer
    @KAPAFlyer 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    "Everyone I disagree with is a bigot!"
    WhatCulture should stick to their weekly video about Shutter Island.

    • @Darthalas
      @Darthalas 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Sounds like they struck a nerve 😅

  • @AkaManah45
    @AkaManah45 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Iron first doesnt need to be redone with a asian character, it was sinply a horrible show with horribly writing n worst acting n fighting. It also didnt help that the actor didnt know shid about martial arts or even trained n looked horrible when he did fight. It does help if u pick up a comic book or even look up the information considering he has been around since the 70s

  • @dhenderson1810
    @dhenderson1810 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I think if you do any IP, you either piss off the fans or the broader audience. You can't have both.
    I think creators should just do it their own way and people can take it or leave it.
    Or do original stuff, and the audience don't get to say how you should use YOUR characters.

  • @scottibrown3274
    @scottibrown3274 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I actually enjoyed Gypsy. I think had it used a different title the show would have lasted longer, even though the Fleetwood Mac song is the one playing in the opening titles. Going down the rabbit hole was mentioned in the show so maybe something that gives a little nod to Alice in Wonderland might have worked better or since the character of Jean was a therapy, maybe the title of the show should have been related to psychology especially since in the show she starts a double life in a sense

  • @zacharyhansen6474
    @zacharyhansen6474 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    No really disagreements with the core claim for each of the shows. No complaint with the shows picked. Good job, but I might apply this whole video under the same microscope. Stop throwing in claims that there is massive uproar about race. Your are just making stuff up to fill your script. There was no controversy around race for any show in any measurable amount of time. People taking issue with changing race of any kind just because “we want to” is not being more inclusive. It’s wrong. Just as it would be wrong to recast an actor of color with a white actor. We all agree that is not what we want to see. So don’t do it the other way around and call it inclusion. Especially when the source material has already been established. All that being said, the noise online about these changes, while valid, were so small amongst the large complaints that you rightfully pointed out in your critique. The only person turning this issue into an issue about race is you.

  • @alexius23
    @alexius23 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    📺📺📺🧙‍♂

  • @Raevon22
    @Raevon22 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Star Wars is dead 😢Disney killed it.

    • @WinstonSmith19847
      @WinstonSmith19847 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Good I used to like Star Wars but I'm fed up hearing cry babies like you moaning about Disney so now it's dead we can all move on.

  • @cinder1998
    @cinder1998 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ah yes when people dont like something they are bigots. I remember why I stopped watching this channel.

  • @Scandic45
    @Scandic45 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I'm Usually the guy who is optimistic about tv shows trying to find the good in them not caring if the cgi ain't great or the story is not always great but Halo managed to piss me off. Now the art and props department i respect you whole heartedly you did try. But the main gripes was it was a show about nothing similar to the story of halo it was a way for the writers to "make it better, cause games can't tell as good stories as i/we can " I felt insulted cause the show had no real soul of what makes Halo such a impact medium. If they ever try again a smaller story focused on ODST during the war with band of brothers meets helldivers 2 and the trailer for ODST. Season 2 first 2 episodes were decent but still not the real spirit of the medium. Rings of power have a similar sense of trying to improve or make something better to suit the story instead of following the story but still managing to blend the changes well with the source material. House of the dragon for example is doing this well by blending what was written but not changing to much to move it away from the story. I know i come off like a picky douche but i cared for halo been a long time since a show made me pissed off

    • @dobby9996
      @dobby9996 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      If you don't care if the story is good or not then do you just watch for the pretty lights? The story is what makes the show. CGI can be let down by budgets. Performances can be let down by an actor just not getting it. But the script is something you have complete control over

    • @dhenderson1810
      @dhenderson1810 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      If it followed the story to the letter, people then complain it is unoriginal and predictable.
      Can't win.

  • @MollyMcLaughlin
    @MollyMcLaughlin 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Take a drink every time this video mentions anything woke. You’ll be drunk in 5 minutes. 😆🙄🤦🏻‍♀️😆

  • @fourlights
    @fourlights 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    The mental gymnastics and denial are absolutely next level. It's 100% objective fact that shows like Rings of power and Acolyte flopped because they were woke, and had terrible activist writers who had little to no respect for the source material. This is the view of the overwhelming majority, whatculture is finished if its going this way.. Hiring witers/commentators who demonise their own audience, only ends one way.

  • @abbaddabba6100
    @abbaddabba6100 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Not sorry about it: I loved The Acolyte. Although that might be because I watched it after all of the episodes were out and I was expecting a complete train wreck. Once you get past the first couple of episodes it's pretty solid.

    • @RictusHolloweye
      @RictusHolloweye 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I think it's better than Book of Boba Fett and that Kenobi show. Nowhere near as good as Andor though.

  • @fateddreamer
    @fateddreamer 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I actually liked Iron Fist but I knew some of the original comics. And the rest was woke BS hand-wringing.

  • @jamv2122
    @jamv2122 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    when you have to start with diversity and inclusion or changed for modern audiences then you already screwed up because now your audience knows you gave zero time into actual making a story and just wanted to shoe horn as much garbage as you can to get your points in.
    with zero story and know zero about the series apart from some bullet points. rings of power could have been good but the lack of detail changing characters outright and virtue siginaling and the rubber armour and effects was just piss poor. star wars acoylte was run by someone that didnt even read any of the lore and didn't bother to even hide there distain for fans the writing was just simply insert this important character here without context.

  • @JohnClam
    @JohnClam 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I've rarely seen a more toxic comment section than for a whatculture video lol

    • @liamwynne566
      @liamwynne566 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Toxic = people who disagree with me

  • @bigotutbigotescu4723
    @bigotutbigotescu4723 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I like how this TH-cam bans comments. Fun Fact- And I didn't specify the minority, I didn't get to the last series. Unbelievable, sometimes the universe smiles at you!!

  • @caincha
    @caincha 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Was The Expanse ever controversial for their polyamory relationships? Honest question.
    I love that show (and the books!) and to this day it's my go-to as an example of how to do everything well done without the need to go 'woke' for attention.

  • @CRM89784
    @CRM89784 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Going to be an unsubscribe from me if What Culture start bringing in nasty little identity politics into their videos and calling people who criticise trash content bigots

  • @AllMediaReviewsPodcast
    @AllMediaReviewsPodcast 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    SheHulk: Attorney at Law?

    • @Bassquake76
      @Bassquake76 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Man was that a train wreck too!

  • @jenflinchum4360
    @jenflinchum4360 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Velma was awesome. It's a shame so many of you just didn't get it