Games of the Ancient World

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 มี.ค. 2012
  • Part of the Charles K. Wilkinson Lecture Series.
    Like Spilt Milk: How Ancient Board Games Were Disseminated
    Irving Finkel
    Assistant Keeper, Department of the Middle East, The British Museum
    Between Play and Rebirth: The Game of Hounds and Jackals
    Anne-Elizabeth Dunn-Vaturi
    Hagop Kevorkian Research Associate, Department of Ancient Near Eastern Art, MMA
    Moves in the Abstract: Chess Pieces of the Middle East
    Anna Contadini
    Reader in the Art and Archaeology of Islam, Department of the History of Art and Archaeology, School of Oriental and African Studies, University of London
    We thank the many friends of Charles K. Wilkinson and of The Metropolitan Museum of Art who have generously funded the lecture series.

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  • @YourMateNate3
    @YourMateNate3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +553

    I like to fall asleep watching TH-cam videos and woke up to this. SMH 🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @afraidxmonsters
      @afraidxmonsters 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      SAMEEE

    • @imyself8412
      @imyself8412 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Puts me right back asleep

    • @eerokkitube
      @eerokkitube 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Same

    • @jimmydriveway
      @jimmydriveway 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Same

    • @andanssas
      @andanssas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Not trying to interfere with your sleep routines, but check Andrew Huberman videos: studies have shown that any light before sleep (not just blue light) affects sleep effectiveness. It might be better to just hear the content... Have a nice sleep!

  • @Subgenrelol
    @Subgenrelol 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    POV: you fell asleep watching David P videos and woke up to this

  • @JM-uw5mo
    @JM-uw5mo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    9:45 if you get bored with introduction

  • @MegaBoilermaker
    @MegaBoilermaker 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The lecturer is doing very well to deliver this lecture in English. My compliments Madam.

  • @feureau
    @feureau 6 ปีที่แล้ว +125

    Lecture starts at 9:10

  • @UAPch
    @UAPch 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    This man is hilarious, delightful, witty, acerbic, a man above the information presented. The audience just barely laughs, completely unaware that they don’t have to be terminally bored just because they are listening to a museum guy talk about board games.

    • @Valenciakatebe
      @Valenciakatebe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      G7uu

    • @Valenciakatebe
      @Valenciakatebe 2 ปีที่แล้ว

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    • @Valenciakatebe
      @Valenciakatebe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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    • @Valenciakatebe
      @Valenciakatebe 2 ปีที่แล้ว

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    • @Valenciakatebe
      @Valenciakatebe 2 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @prairiestategenetixseeds9726
    @prairiestategenetixseeds9726 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Finkle is Gilgamesh... Gilgamesh is Finkle!!! Another awesome performance by this brilliant man

  • @midnitegremlin1345
    @midnitegremlin1345 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Great video- It's nice to see some serious work on the history of playing games with others. Too much is made online, especially You Tube, of people who enjoy playing with themselves.

  • @Pillowcase
    @Pillowcase 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I've been binge watching Irving, one of my favorite historical presenters for sure.

  • @beyondthecouch
    @beyondthecouch 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Woke up to it too and am thinking the aliens have something to do with it. Sending me a private message 🤣🤣🤣

  • @wqmanawqke3375
    @wqmanawqke3375 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Had no idea this was a Finkel presentation!!! I'm totally fangirling.
    On the off chance of being peeky- I think Finkel NEEDS to be in the next Jumangi Movie.

  • @SRHisnum1
    @SRHisnum1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is so interesting. What excellent speakers and researchers!!! It amazing how they pieced together these games and figured out how they were played. It's nothing less than amazing. Thank you all so much. I am watching it again right after my first viewing of it I am enjoying it so much.

    • @UAPch
      @UAPch ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for being that way too.

  • @ZZ-bi3kt
    @ZZ-bi3kt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I love this guy, so comical and so bright. And I love that his academia isn’t white-washed.

  • @annechauvat3342
    @annechauvat3342 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This is so interesting! Thanks you so much to the speakers for giving these lectures, and to the MET for making them available!

  • @999across
    @999across 10 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    Starting at 9:00 unless you're fond of incessant intros.

    • @sallylauper8222
      @sallylauper8222 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, detail over enthusiasm seems the rule.

    • @winterbirds8022
      @winterbirds8022 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thank you !😊

    • @markp44288
      @markp44288 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      thank you

    • @5Andysalive
      @5Andysalive 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Love Finkels little dig at this fact.

  • @kariannecrysler640
    @kariannecrysler640 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    During geometry class my friend and I played a similar game on our lined paper. 10 lines dotted 10 times. Connect the dots one bar per turn initial your completed squares, which could only be all four sides in your mark (pen vs. pencil) could get in two games in a half hour lol 😊

  • @johnathanstucker4924
    @johnathanstucker4924 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is this guy where they got stueys accent from?

  • @msp420
    @msp420 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    this is an amazing video. Thanks for sharing

  • @bookeens
    @bookeens 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fascinating.

  • @charlesrockafellor4200
    @charlesrockafellor4200 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Between Dr. Finkel's opening observation of new players asking "What if...?" and the tale of Nicobar-chess, I'm reminded of an error of my own and a fun set of open-to-debate rules:
    1) When I first ran into Conway's 23/3 Life, it was in Piers Anthony's "OX", and my copy had a skipped (empty) row in one of the illustrations. The rules weren't explicitly outlined therein (nor in an appendix), and I had no knowledge of where else to look. You can only imagine some of the quirky rules I conjectured to reverse engineer things from the patterns that were given.
    2) The rules of "Thud" (from Terry Pratchett's "Discworld" series), and possibly "Koom Valley Thud" (I don't remember for sure) aren't 100% unambiguous and comprehensive. If you go through them and bump each against the next, or read the _exact_ wordings pedantically, you can come up with a number of variations to each (not precisely exploits, more like interpretations).

  • @adamwalkervfx
    @adamwalkervfx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Cool, but how was Jumanji discovered?

  • @hp0w3n92
    @hp0w3n92 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interested 🌲🎄

  • @juliehovar5488
    @juliehovar5488 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Absolutely Brilliant presentation on diffusion and so much more. ManyThanks to all

  • @enroseunwolvenrose6105
    @enroseunwolvenrose6105 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    it kinda looks like a cribbage board

  • @eddiel1076
    @eddiel1076 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Uhhh why is this in the Cavernous Cove playlist???

  • @hughdennison3013
    @hughdennison3013 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Excellent lecture displaying the high standards of modern academia, well done Anna.

    • @jplg7661
      @jplg7661 2 ปีที่แล้ว

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      @jplg7661 2 ปีที่แล้ว

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      @jplg7661 2 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @chadirwin1534
    @chadirwin1534 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can't believe how people don't see it.

  • @claudiaradusch6696
    @claudiaradusch6696 5 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Until 39.00 I really thought that there was no audience at all. How can it be that a group of people seems to be immune to a rhetorical genius like Irving Finkel. Maybe they had to sign a document promising not to laugh even when the lecturer is really funny before entering the hall. Strange.

  • @danwatson8245
    @danwatson8245 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ihorne if finckle, finckle is ihorne. Ace venture

  • @sartocormier4118
    @sartocormier4118 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The met, the sphinx was a basenji before it get re carved! The basenji answer to the riddle has it have 4 paws, 2 at lunch, to smell the food and 3 in the afternoon has it's their watch turn and they can not go for a nap and to conserve their energy for when it is really needed! The spinx was watching the leo constellation, just like basenji were keeping a watch on lion to keep villages safe! The spinx is ready to strike! Go figure why there is plenty of dog at the Giza! Basenji are a pure breed and with the desert growing they must have move south to Congo! Basenji have curly tell like in the egyptian carving/pictures, a chacal is wild, basemji have primitive human's way, has in basic ways of beeing!
    The game your were talking about being like a dog also related to the sphinx, must have been a basenji too! ;)
    -A basenji owner
    p.s: On my picture it is my basenji!

    • @SRHisnum1
      @SRHisnum1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very interesting. Thank you for sharing and I love your beautiful dog.

  • @CristianDominguezReloaded
    @CristianDominguezReloaded 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So this was gaming in the ancient world

  • @kennykimbrough4020
    @kennykimbrough4020 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    49:35 yo i had no idea Pam from the office was in this

  • @multihullminion9201
    @multihullminion9201 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    These aren’t simply games, they’re an illustrated representation of the torsion field, both that of the human body, the planet and many more

    • @Ryan-fosho
      @Ryan-fosho 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The earth is flat

    • @multihullminion9201
      @multihullminion9201 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Plane et

    • @Ryan-fosho
      @Ryan-fosho 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@multihullminion9201 hmm yes “planeet”

  • @hiyo9144
    @hiyo9144 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    POV: You clicked on this video expecting it to be more engaging only to find it to be a snorefest

  • @6tring6
    @6tring6 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Same

  • @emilymcculloch8719
    @emilymcculloch8719 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Another brilliant show

  • @c0smicc0re
    @c0smicc0re 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why this on the Cavernous Cove playlist

  • @kellymcmanus150
    @kellymcmanus150 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fell asleep 🥱 to Graham Hancock and woke-up 😮 here @ 1:00:12. 😴

  • @gchin1652
    @gchin1652 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Veri important

  • @onefeather2
    @onefeather2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Audio is so low can't hear it.

  • @haraldgundersen7303
    @haraldgundersen7303 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The Irving man is a wizard with great powers. Luckily for us he is only throwing the forces of humor and likeability out into the world or we might be doomed to a greater extent than currently is the case...

  • @JamesS_
    @JamesS_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    is this the new cavernous cove monster?

  • @MontanaMacLeod
    @MontanaMacLeod 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    13:00 🕐 bookmarking for myself to show my dad

  • @gameon2553
    @gameon2553 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why introduce someone to introduce someone and waste 9 minutes ?
    Just go straight to Irving Finkel...9:09

  • @histoiretraduite
    @histoiretraduite 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anna Contadini is she the pvoice behind all those footages of megalith stones and temples. Stating that the anciens must have had lost technology and that somebody must have cancel or add centuries, milleniums to our history time Line? Is she that woman ? The tone of her voice is exactly the same.

  • @laughingdog5201
    @laughingdog5201 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Checking in from
    2020

  • @keenbaker-dias1137
    @keenbaker-dias1137 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lead by example

  • @svenhanson398
    @svenhanson398 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really miss a transcript

  • @never3care875
    @never3care875 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Same but I suppose I deserve it because I fell asleep do history videos in the first place

  • @taraschumacker
    @taraschumacker 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Starts at 9:30

  • @laurah1020
    @laurah1020 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love Dr. Finkle!!!

  • @jackparsons390
    @jackparsons390 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    it must have been so difficult for these people living under the rule of the Anunnaki. From what I've heard Enil could be a real [expletive deleted] if he had a bug up his [expletive deleted].

    • @midnitegremlin1345
      @midnitegremlin1345 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you [expletive deleted] those word yourself, or is You [expletive deleted] Tube doing that automatically? :D

    • @jackparsons390
      @jackparsons390 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@midnitegremlin1345 only way to get the point across

    • @midnitegremlin1345
      @midnitegremlin1345 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jackparsons390 I mean, are those [expletive deleted] folks at mother[expletive deleted] You Tube putting that [expletive deleted] [Expletive Deleted] in? Or are you doing it yourself?

    • @corticallarvae
      @corticallarvae 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Grady McMurtry says hi Jack -

    • @midnitegremlin1345
      @midnitegremlin1345 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@corticallarvae #iseewhatyoudidthere !!!

  • @carriestaker3856
    @carriestaker3856 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    31:55 pachisi!

  • @goodshitl6720
    @goodshitl6720 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jim I go for it 😹😹😹😹

  • @HxFxL
    @HxFxL 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im confused on how i got here

  • @RickBoat
    @RickBoat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Love Irving Finkel, even if no one laughed at his jokes.

  • @raptorhunter5549
    @raptorhunter5549 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting time to update monopoly to planets not just land

  • @codyramos3200
    @codyramos3200 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    an that game will be called sticky mcshnickens

  • @shrugmsm457
    @shrugmsm457 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Oooo i like this monster

  • @Lyndanet
    @Lyndanet 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    13:11 what a sweetheart

  • @ralphmalph6824
    @ralphmalph6824 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Who else was diverted here while watching Robert Sepehr? TheMet is always a safe option for Zionism's TH-cam.

  • @Rubin_Schmidt
    @Rubin_Schmidt 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    See the script in this video.
    th-cam.com/video/Ex9YCfFvknA/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=RubinSchmidt
    2:45 mins. in. !!!

  • @DieterHageman
    @DieterHageman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I always start with knowing uall the rules... Hate starting without ...don't believe in house rules ... All Part of devolution

  • @cdtemporal2870
    @cdtemporal2870 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really tried to listen but around 13 min I could not any longer relate at all.

  • @sporter527
    @sporter527 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    how to speedrun

  • @MoritaJunichiro
    @MoritaJunichiro 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    history junna junwa 👈🏻😹

  • @Hotlooksamerica
    @Hotlooksamerica 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Skipped 9 min

  • @JimFortune
    @JimFortune 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Way too much time spent on intros.

  • @ebinmenes1698
    @ebinmenes1698 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    gaming

  • @ryansweeney5716
    @ryansweeney5716 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    28:50 isreal only 60 years old. Impossibls

    • @Racistobama
      @Racistobama 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Adam Battersby Are you high? Yes, yes I believe you are.

  • @nathanholfelner9135
    @nathanholfelner9135 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's what happens when you have disengaged enthusiasts who like to hear their own voices. Maybe this should be for going to sleep..

  • @lalonguecarabine4952
    @lalonguecarabine4952 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well you're missing a deck a cards duh.

  • @devinglis3179
    @devinglis3179 ปีที่แล้ว

    I watch alot of tartaria vids
    Where the constant theme is "the narrative we are told is a lie" wake up to this pumping the narrative... hmm

  • @SuperMorendo
    @SuperMorendo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tryttttt

  • @dandee9014
    @dandee9014 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hope you have had your own grand children now...u realise that u have time and experience .

  • @Za7a7aZ
    @Za7a7aZ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The british should demand Finkel for prime minister... Beter yet...ignore charles and made king.

  • @DieterHageman
    @DieterHageman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Once there was knowledge... then came Rome and islam

    • @DieterHageman
      @DieterHageman 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Dr Odd certainty is something only idiots can afford.

    • @DieterHageman
      @DieterHageman 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Dr Odd oh reflecting it back to me... you must feel even smarter now.

    • @DieterHageman
      @DieterHageman 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      you must feel even smarter, means you at a later moment in time...

    • @DieterHageman
      @DieterHageman 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      a smart person will get it...

    • @DieterHageman
      @DieterHageman 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Dr Odd when you grow up, you'll notice there is a difference between being smart and being smart.

  • @allanjasonbatac1611
    @allanjasonbatac1611 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ii

  • @markjeffriesjr2448
    @markjeffriesjr2448 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought about drugging christians on a movie set and came here so lom and haa uh haa ok here

  • @joshdibble9357
    @joshdibble9357 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Umm, ahh, ummm. Aahhhh. Ummmm. Ah. How did I end up here? Due to COVID 19? Oh wait Finkle!? Laces out Finkle? Umm. Ahh. Umm. These people believe we came from apes.

    • @CrisSelene
      @CrisSelene 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You are a prime example that some have not evolved past the ape stage. Even ape is too much

    • @colinthomson5358
      @colinthomson5358 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CrisSelene - So he can mate with a female Ape? Hmmm

    • @patrykzi6024
      @patrykzi6024 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CrisSelene d
      O
      Oh

    • @rubenverheij4770
      @rubenverheij4770 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      .......................................
      Josh,_
      how_YOU_can_proof_
      human_beings_
      not_came_from_apes?_
      .......................................

    • @AtlasRapture
      @AtlasRapture 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rubenverheij4770
      How you can proof Abraham Lincoln wasn't president of Germany?

  • @daviddimarino4648
    @daviddimarino4648 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sss

  • @chadirwin1534
    @chadirwin1534 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You don't have to be a genius and do a lecture, to know that global communication was a fact. Just like you said about the boardgame, they made their own interpretations. Why u think they are pyremids on every continent.

    • @colinthomson5358
      @colinthomson5358 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      There are tons of things found around the world that *seem* to be built by the same people. So much so that I actually think a large group split into several small groupss and spread out around the world taking skills and info with them.
      There's really specific things like masks in China and South America both made with two materials

    • @fouronegee
      @fouronegee 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Chris Evans that's funny

  • @lyla9784
    @lyla9784 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    f c6

  • @username_unavalible1104
    @username_unavalible1104 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    C.C isn’t this! THIS IS A SCAM!

  • @fokkenhotz1
    @fokkenhotz1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    omfg not again yt 👇🤞👉

  • @Anara2
    @Anara2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thumbs down simply for the 10 min introductions!!!!

    • @winterbirds8022
      @winterbirds8022 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Seriously? Just skip it ,It some,not me might want to listen to that lol

    • @FootballAndSuch
      @FootballAndSuch 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How very childish of you.

    • @Balithazzarr
      @Balithazzarr 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nobody will ever know know.

  • @Moodymongul
    @Moodymongul 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    These are (pretty much) all just the same game ..gambling :-)

  • @dforte6195
    @dforte6195 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    With all due respect, Brittish history is sometimes marred by their conceptualized "re-discovery" of artifacts, lands, and people, with subsequent make-believe narratives which can be constantly changed at whim by varying "re-discoverers."
    The history of man paints our very specific migration of ethnicity and culture across the globe. Considering that certain cultures in Africa, where man began his journey, were conquered, plundered, and whose artifacts were destroyed and reclaimed, I cannot rely wholly upon the good sir's research, as it seems to refortify the Museum's ever tight grip on "acquired" items and its possible retelling of history as it actually occurred.
    He lost me at "Egyptian and Aziatic Barbaric," which seems to be in itself, an oxymoron. Honestly, we still havent figured out, from what the museums left over after their many raids, have to tell us of Egyptian technology and their very existence. I dont see them borrowing a game from India when the migration of man came from Egypt, crossed other continents, and eventually came BACK around to India. He seemingly says it with such disdain, as if he is certain that the Egyptians' version of a game was in fact "Barbaric."
    Hmmm... So far, this is all that TH-cam has to offer as far as documentaries on the subject. I challenge everyone to keep researching as I will.

    • @sallylauper8222
      @sallylauper8222 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Irving Finkel's reference to a "Babaric game" was obviously humorous, especially after he's already shown his deep interest and respect for the game and it's history.

    • @somniumisdreaming
      @somniumisdreaming 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Originally Finkel wanted to be an Egyptologist but chance changed his career. He always makes a jokes about Egypt its his thing, he doesn't really believe they were barbaric.

    • @jsinmcc92
      @jsinmcc92 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You commented before finishing the video

  • @byTjo
    @byTjo ปีที่แล้ว

    Dry. Very dry.

  • @natoya85
    @natoya85 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your show are bored

  • @artspectrum2421
    @artspectrum2421 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Boring!.... Start already!

  • @TheKevinkauffman06
    @TheKevinkauffman06 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a long winded and unnecessary introduction.

  • @Solaar_Punk
    @Solaar_Punk ปีที่แล้ว

    Boring. I wish I could block the met chanel

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    @evelyngoodshot-segovia4978 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Boring boring boring

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    @ykim2337 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Check out YKim for my attempt to describe THE PERFECT GREEK STATE