The Brown Family Polygamy Destroyed: Reaction to Sister Wives Season 17 with Sam & Melissa
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- In this video, we explore the dramatic developments of "Sister Wives" Season 17 with Sam and Melissa! Sam, who was raised in the FLDS church, and his wife Melissa, offer their unique insights and reactions to the monumental shift in the Brown family dynamics. With Kody Brown's wives leaving him and the end of his polygamous lifestyle, Sam and Melissa delve into what this means for the family and the broader implications for polygamy.
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My son had that surgery. It’s brutal. The recovery is rough. That he just opted out makes me hate him for Ysabel.
Hearing that she kept asking for him while the anesthesia was wearing off, when she was going back and forth being confused is so heartbreaking.
My son had that surgery too. It was 9 hours in surgery and many months of recovery. Kody is a jackass for not helping Christine and Ysabel.
Kody warns Ysabell to not become a bitter housewive. If he doesn't go to her surgery (vacation). Poor Ysabell thought she was in Kody's family. Only Robyn's brood is in the family. Not any of the OG13 children .
I do recall that Kody didn't want Ysabell to have ugly scar on her back too.🐛
He could have helped Christine when they got home.
@@Patricia-vm9ys she asked for help the only volunteer was Janelle
Kody is one of those people who thinks his existence is what makes him worthy of respect. Not his behavior, just the fact that he is.
You are so absolutely correct 100%
Well said!
Nailed it!!
It’s infuriating
Kody's attude of existance respect. Was cultivated by the wives OG3 & sobin Robyn. Along with his parents too. Don't forget the extreem manosphere+ sovern citizen movement. That currently is popular in today's society. "It''s all Ego Baby. "
Said the gloved , KoVid Kody King Kong . From the Flagstaff of Kingdumb of Koyote Pass. Look at the Mountinnnns...🏔️ Meri shush up and build me a barn for my many ATVs. And you can live there too.
Sam hit the nail on the head……Kody didn’t give his wives any loyalty or respect yet he demanded it from them. The way he talks about his wives is so degrading. He doesn’t deserve any type of respect!!
Christine said a good sister wife would not monopolize the time of the husband. Also, a good sister wife would build relationships with his children instead of refusing to let them in her house.
How beautiful a human is Sam that he doesn't want to say negative things about the train wreck that is Cody! You are both such beautiful people! I really just adore you both! 😘
You two cover SW with such respect for the family. Sam you brought me to tears when you didn’t want to say anything negative about the Browns and wished they were an imagined family. You prove there are still gentlemen in the world. Thanks for both of your kindness in discussing hard topics. You Rock!
I cried a happy tear too, for the integrity I can see in Sam. So happy for Melissa and Sam. If I could raise my sons to be like Sam I’d be honored .
Thank you so much ❤️
Now you've got me crying. Thank you ❤️
Gwen was asked on her patreon if Kody was better when the cameras were off and she said he was worse. Much worse.
I remember him saying that!
*her---Gwen.
That's just heartbreaking!
That is heartbreaking 💔
I had a back surgery when I was a teen. The anesthesia definitely makes you feel foggy.I balled my eyes out when I asked to see my big brother and he wasn’t there. So you are still aware of who’s there and who’s not.
Kody only cared about losing Christine's money -- not Christine herself.
Sam, your reluctance to speak negatively about Kody actually speaks volumes and is so impactful.
When Kody did not go to his daughter’s surgery, it was all I needed to know his character and Robyns. I would have insisted as a sister wife that he be with his daughter who needed him. His kids had a nanny, remember the one they got Covid from, so there is that.
It drove me crazy that kody and robyn acted so scared of covid and like they were the safest, but gwen revealed that they all got the vaccine and kody and robyn and their kids didn’t.
Not getting the vaccine is the smartest thing Kody has ever done. I know so many people who got sick & died from it. Many fast growing cancers, 2 dropped dead, 1 lost use of his legs because of clots. Horrible poison.
He also is so sad that Robin’s daughter was quarantined for so long in the basement, but nothing about being away from other kids over and over for long periods.
I really believe he made that statement to show Robyn’s kids suffered separation too. ( only weeks, not months)I don’t believe he actually cared what kids or wives he was separated from. Except from Robyn.
The OG3 wives encouraged Kody to go to the other wives' homes. They made him spend time with the whole family. But Sobyn played dumb and told Kody, "Okay, if that's what you want."
right! if robyn cared, she'd have locked him out & made him stay w/ her sister wives, not let him stay.
Yes!! At the very least, it means she should at least acknowledge the unfairness she accepted.
Happy 10 year engagement day! I've really enjoyed your commentary on this show. I learned a lot.
Kody punishing them for their choice is a hallmark of an abuser.
Always moving the goal post and making them jump thru hoops. In order to gain love and attention- so sick and twisted
I’m not sure what a good sister wife is but Kody says “A bad sister wife takes her kids away from her husband.” He is referring to Christine, but it’s interesting to note that Robyn also did this.
What does the kody do? He sells fire arms, fire arm parts, and accessories. Ive been on his website im not a FA enthusiast but it all seems over priced to me. I believe some of the controversy is that you could purchase parts from him to build your own weapon without registering it 😒
Kody is no longer allowed to sell gun parts
Oh wow. Thank you for this insight.
Melissa, I’m so happy for you after hearing how passionate your husband is loyalty and treating his wife correctly I know you must be so blessed happiness to you both
I'm gonna have to steal, "Señor King of the World" for future sarcastic use 😄
Y’all are spot on…so enjoyed Sam mocking Kody
My guilty pleasure 😂. Go Sam 😊
Ah! Sam is finally seeing and feeling what we've all been experiencing for the last few seasons! It's so sweet that Sam doesn't like to say negative things, but Kody is NUTS and at some point you got to call a spade a spade. Welcome to our world Sam! 😂😂
I love hearing from you guys. You’re both just so awesome and good hearted. I appreciate your hard work.
Robyn put a note on her fridge. Instructioning the step kids to ask for permission to eat. That says alot. Kody was in her bed every night what did she think would happen?
Finally! 😂 I feel so validated. Both of you bring a kindness, a genuine grace in attitude towards people in general, a spirit of fairness, if you will, in your reviews of the Brown family (and in general). It's a giant part of your channel for me. It's easy to hate on Kody and shred him to bits, but you both have offered other insights into "Well, maybe Kody is acting this way because of such and such." And again, I love that about your channel. But FINALLY, to even see Sam so frusrated and just calling Kody out! And both of you finally able to say, yeah, Kody is being a huge jerk here. I feel as if two people as kind and fair as you are, given your religious background and experiences, comes to similar conclusions as the main, viewing audience--it somehow adds an authenticity to our (non-Mormon-based) conclusions. Sister Wives is what brought me to your channel and for that, I am so thankful. Looking forward to more from you both. Thank you for ALL your hard work. YOU both make such a positive change in this world. All the good on ya! ❤
Thank you so much for your kind words! ❤️
Kody doesn't know what polygamy means to him. Kody had no expectations or understanding of polygamy. He did not grow up in polygamy. His parents joined the AUB and brought in another wife while Kody was away on mission. He did not see the jealousy. He did not see the adjustments. He did not experience growing up with the competition or jealousy with other siblings from other mothers. When he came home from mission, he saw the respect that other men in the AUB had for his dad. Kody had no life goals of his own. He is follower. He wanted the respect of the other men and his dad. It never felt like polygamy was a religious calling to him. Kody had experienced growing up in monogamy and having several girlfriends in high school. The girls in high school all got along with each other. It felt like he had assumed that polygamy was more of the same with the added bonus of sex with multiple women, having children and gaining the respect of the men.
Meri grew up in polygamy from the age of 9. She was indifferent to becoming a polygamous before she met Kody but she knew how it worked. Meri was a perfectionist trying to become the perfect polygamous wife with the perfect polygamous family. Meri was in charge of how the family should work. Kody fell in with Meri's rules because she knew more than he did and he did not want the responsibility.
Janelle did not grow up in polygamy. Her mom had several monogamous marriages. Janelle's childhood was unsettled and she had several 'dads'. She knew nothing about polygamy and did not start researching it until she married Meri's brother Adam (her first husband). After her divorce, she remained friends with Meri and Kody. Janelle was attracted to the religious side of the polygamous, communal lifestyle: extended family, some sex, expected to have lots of kids, independence, a safety net, security). The man was not the draw. Janelle's inclusion was rough because neither she nor Kody had considered or had previous experience of the realities of polygamy.
Christine grew up in polygamy with the title of 'entitled princess'. She had a very idealized view of polygamy. It never occurred to her to not enter polygamy. She added weight to the family as to how polygamy was supposed to function. She added support to what Meri was trying to put in place. She did it with childlike smiles, giggles and going along to get along. It always felt like Kody left everything up to the women to decide. He would let them fight it out and accept whatever they decided. Where each lived. How money was earned. How money was spent. How they would function/not function as a family. How the kids would be raised. The schedule and whose bed he slept in each night. etc. Kody was reasonably happy with the arrangement because it meant that he did not have to lead or make decisions. He got to play the fun guy.
A matriarchy had evolved.
Robyn disrupted the family with her insistence of her definition of polygamy: a patriarchy lead by a strong man, separate monogamy, each wife lives separate (her 2 moms lived in different states), minimal interaction of the families, being the 'mistress' wife (aka set up a competition with the other wives for attention). The Brown family living arrangements and relationships were foreign to her. She made Kody think and reconsider.
Robyn made Kody believe he needed to establish a patriarchy to impress her. Until then he had never considered that it could be different. Kody liked what Robyn was selling.
Kody never explained to the other wives that he wanted to change the rules and arrangements. Kody just let the original family disintegrate through neglect. Kody is no agent of positive change. He was no head of the family. He abdicated family leadership. When he did make a decision, it meant chaos to all. He kept waiting for them to exhaust themselves, to figure it out on their own what he wanted and fall in line. Then he gets angry when the first 3 wives and children move on the independent lives with out him. The OG3 wives and kids outgrew him and left him behind.
Kudos! You have one of the most insightful views I have seen on this family. I agree 100%!
Don't hold back..... It's not talking bad about people when you're just stating the facts! If someone doesn't want someone to state unfavorable facts about them, then they shouldn't act unfavorable!
Kody did an interview on a Mormon channel (I can't remember the name) But I would love your reaction to it since it's mostly about his faith beliefs. Also, one of the callers at the end totally calls out Kody and it's glorious.
I think they did do a reaction video to that a while back
The “ not attracted to Christine “ got me - they have seven kids am I right ? Sit the hell down Kody ! Christine and Janelle were both great sister wives.
Six plus one stillborn.
@@cathywithac thank you but for him to say he wasn’t attracted to her and have that many children give me a break
Meri 1, Janelle 6, Christine 6, Robyn 2 and 3 adopted
Robyn wasnt trying to break up the family? In season 6 she literally started the idea to burn his bag he used to go from one house to another. She got it burned and there went the rotation. She's not to be trusted.
Kody's always busy being Robin's Best Customer. LOL
He is a narcissist to say the least. He lost so many valuable relationships , including one with his son who has now passed away. Very very sad
He does that to all his older kids. The other child ( adult) is Gabe. I hope he gets all the help he needs
So very sad about Garrison. It’s hard to not believe Kody’s treatment of the boys did not play a part. Did the show also play a part? Would love to hear your thoughts about it. Is this something you can reflect on. In polygamy how is suicide viewed? Much love to Janelle and prayers for Gabe. I can’t imagine finding your brother.
I think Kody's change in attitude, is because he miscalculated his own family. He didn't realize that Christine was the center of the family! Those kids revolve around Christine. She raised them, did special things, always listened, let them raid her fridge, and loves everyone of them. So when Kody wanted to exclude Christine, the kids chose her. I think that shocked the hec out of him!!
Kody's reaction to his own experience having Covid has to be 1 of 2 things (or a little of both)
1.he either does have extreme anxiety around illness and is not willing to call it what it was (a extreme trauma response to past health issues with him and his family) or
2. He had to over-react and make it sound so close to death because that would be needed in his mind to justify how extreme he has acted and how much he allowed it to completely separate the family.
I love hearing your perspectives!
Would you ever consider re-watching season 18 at some point now that you have the full context of the first 17 seasons? It would be interesting to see if you pick up on anything that you may have missed the first time.
Yes! Please do this!
“What do I call him?” An ass😂 a quick three letter word that says it all!
I quit watching sister wives years ago but I watch another channel that speaks of it a lot. I enjoy your perspective a lot.
Kody seems to be a narcissist.
Are you a fan of Without a Crystal Ball? I am!
@@mienafriggstad3360 Yes.
Thank you for making these commentaries about the show, your perspective has been enlightening!
Patriarchal structure based upon biblical interpretation requires that the second half of the verse are also followed... paraphrased due to laziness "Wives, submit to your husband. Husbands love your wife in the same way Christ loves his bride, the church (the believing people, not the buildings)". This means that men are called to put the needs of their family above themselves in every way, so that any decision that he is making his wife will trust that he has truly considered the wellbeing of her family while following his faith conviction. This only works for a truly selfless couple and is generally incompatible with most of our society and our me, me, me ways. Since most of us are incapable of being truly selfless, having a fair and balanced relationship where decisions are made jointly is typically the best way to go.
I like spicy Sam! 😂 I think Kody brings out the frustration in all of us. I'm not an expert but I think your guys' analysis of him and the family dynamics is spot on, and I admire that even when you are calling him out on his bull**** you both are respectful and compassionate in a way not many would be. Kudos and best wishes to you two and your family!
Wives leave the money that they make leaves too. He is used to taking their money and spending on things for himself and Robyn. Now that money is gone.
Kody and Robyn can’t be happy without the income from the other wives.
Robyn believes in poligamy when it benefits her. The other wives can have him when he's in bad mood or she isn't in the mood.
Oh my gosh what a sweet sweet man sam is! You really do see the glass half full and find the beauty in everything dont you??! Thats freakin awesome 🥹💜💜💜 kody is straight up evil!!! Let it out, im here for it!! 😂
Thank you! ❤️
Both Cody and Robin are drama queens. This show is their main money maker with the other wives gone. They have to do something to keep the show going. Cody is the center of his universe and the show is his financial foundation. He will do whatever it takes to keep the show going and keep the money flowing.
Damn I've never seen Sam so fired up XD i love it though.
Kody didn’t love or respect 3 of the 4 wives, I think he wanted to hurt them because they wouldn’t shut up and obey him yet he wouldn’t end things himself because if they end it he can play the victim.
Am I correct that when Robin came into the family she didn’t own a house and had debt? If that is true then she certainly scored. The others had to contribute to her financial health.
I noticed that in the incredibly awkward good bye scene when Kody wouldn’t let the kids wanted to hug Truely goodbye and he hugged her Truely looked over at someone and mouthed Help me?
Gwendolyn--Christine's daughter--said on her channel that Kody was worse off camera.
It's hilarious seeing Sam so riled up! Yeah, Kody has that effect on people. It's maddening to watch him. Like Gwendlyn said in her patreons, they really set him up to the be the villain in this season. I can only hope it's half the way it was edited and that he's not actually THAT awful in real life.
everyone in the family got the vaccine minus Kody, Robyn, and her kid.
You guys are such an adorable and charismatic couple that it's almost sickening... almost.
Great work. Keep 'em coming!
Tell us how you really feel Sam! 😂😂😂
RIGHT! And I am here for it!
Kody actually sells guns or gun related paraphanalia at gun shows. It's wild. They NEVER talk about it on the show. He's a HARD libertarian.
Im not a .long time SW fan ( only watched S 18 ) but my understanding was that Kody was a gun and accessories dealer at gun shows ( during covid)
Can’t wait for you to come back for Season 19. I have really enjoyed your perspective on the Brown family.
I’m going to go back to the archives and watch any episodes I may have missed.
Imo Meri stayed with Kody so long was in part because of her mom's love for Kody too.
I would love to see you react to Kodys interview with Bill Reel that happened after season 18 aired. He goes into his current faith more. It's cringy but informative.
Kody sells ghost gun parts at gun shows.
In an illegal lifestyle that is all about breaking boundaries there should be boundaries. And bedding the man on another woman’s night depriving your bonus kids of dad being in the house on that night is bad. They should go to prison again for this. There is a reason it is illegal. The Brown’s really showed us you can’t out it in the suburbs and it be okay. And the boys are deprived wives for this. Deprived of participating in the religion or having a family during fertile years cause some men gluttonous. And the financial. I wish they would go into how much Kody stole from the rest.
Congratulations on finishing all the current seasons.
Now you are all caught up.
The things that Sam doesn't understand about Kody are things that are said in the manosphere. (e.g., his attitude about "respect" vs. love.)
Sam and Melissa, have you ever thought that Cody had to pretend because of the show and he wanted the money because you can see his affection for Robin was greater than any of his other wives
It sure seemed that way at times.
There is nothing wrong with discerning what kind of a person Kody is. He chose to be on TV so in doing so, he opened himself up for criticism and opinions.
His job was selling illegal firearms. He lost his job doing that. So what he is doing now I dont know
There was talk that 1 of robyn's b/law was involved with the AUB "milita" so was a connection for the arms ??
He still sells accessories for guns at trade shows with his friends
Kody thought the wives were suppose to have and raise the kids. He thought that they wanted this and kept saying it’s about the family not the man. So if he was done with them making babies, he should be able to go on to the next without problems. He just collected mommies to care of everything. Including him.They aren’t people, just property.
The Bible says a man is supposed to seek advice from his wife before making important decisions, he's not required to follow her advice but he alone is responsible for the outcome of his final decision.
Kody and Robyn not vaccinated as of getting COVID in Oct 2021 according to their kids.
I love y'all's channel !! I think one thing that hasn't been talked about is when Mary divorced Cody to marry Robin . At how Jenelle and Christine both trusted Mary to do the right thing by them and there children if something happened to Cody . Even with there issues . But I don't think they had the same trust in Robin . So I wonder if this played a part in there discussion to leave.
Janelle specifically said before robyn the decision was to not have a patriarchal marriage. Does anyone remember her saying this? Because then when he was not getting his own way he was screaming about his lack of control and being the patriarch of the family. But at that point robyn was the only one who would even consider bowing to this *insert rude word* man because she is not mentally stable and will kiss the feet of this dirty man.
Kody sells gun accessories at Gun & Knife shows ... They are not actual guns but accessories to turn your gun into an AK47
Robyn never told Kody get out and spend time with another wife. When he did she’d call him FaceTime him, need him. All she wanted was the bank account not the relationships. The girls all say Robyn is worse off camera as well as Kody.
This is my first time here watching your page. Have you read their book? Talking about contradiction! I think Kody and Robyn forgot what they had written.
Sam: Go! Bow!
😂😂😂
Unfortunately season 19 is going to be about Garrisons death and it makes me sick! Garrison wouldn’t want it that way.
The beginning of the end was when they moved out of the cul-de-sac to Arizona. The kids had a good thing when the wives all lived in close proximity; they truly loved each other.
Once the women could no longer produce children he was done with them. He NEVER treated them with respect. Nor does he ever accept responsibility for his actions. I’m sorry that the family broke down but I’m happy for the women and children to have found their happiness.
Hello to both of you. I'm wondering if after you've watched all the previous Seasons that you may have changed any of your thoughts in relationship to when you originally watched season 18? Just thought that that might be something interesting to think about now that you know everything that happened prior. I really enjoy your content and your perspective thank you.
We now understand a lot more about the brown family dynamic. Our opinions have definitely changed regarding some of our original thoughts.
Kody sells guns at gun shows. That’s what he’s doing that keeps him so busy.
Kody's issue is that he fell out of love with Meri and he never really loved the other 2. So when he had wives that were jealous and such, instead of filling their individual love tanks, so that their jealously 'buckets' would seem so minor in comparison, he just got angry at them. He basically expected 'plural marriage' and the religious commitment to be enough for them to fill their own love tank. He seems to be naturally doing that with Robyn but was not working to do that with those he didn't really love but was just 'committed to'. It worked better when it was just the 3 bc the love he did have for them was all similar. But when Robyn came in, it seems the difference in how he felt was so drastic that he allowed himself to completely fail as a husband to them.
The “husband” pretending even if he did have a favorite is one of the factors the sociologist said made a successful relationship. So you are correct.
Ps. Robin and the kids could have gone to the surgery too.
They own multiple moter homes
He wants the money, and all control over the other women. That’s the only reason he’s upset.
Sam, thank you for pointing out it's easy to fall into slander when you're critically reviewing SW.
Clearly Kody made his choices to abandon children! Robyn guilted/shamed him to stay at her house, she monopolized his time.. Robyn talked to him and told him he never loved his wives, the book says different.
Kody wasn't a natural leader, the women didn't like his ideas or respected him as a person. if he was productive and naturally showed it's good to follow his lead then it wouldn't be an issue. janelle robyn and meri did seem like they would try to get their way but bc they felt smarter than kody it wasn't even like the typical southern woman that wants to control their powerful man behind closed doors..
Sam u n ur wife r great love ur humor to cute just love it thanks for sharing ur life with us many. Blessings from North Texas ❤
Thank you! 😊
I was so attracted to Kody in the first season. But now, that attraction is completely gone.
Robyn Brown absolutely does not bow before Kody. She’s the boss and if he doesn’t like it, she says she’s going to leave. She wanted Easter, he said no, she said she’s going to her parents’ house then, Kody freaks out, and bam, the Browns all got Easter. Because Kody Brown is controlled by Robyn. Yeah he made the choice, but only because Robyn threatened to leave. Hahahahaa Kody Brown is such a sucker and bows to her.
35:01 I keep saying- they are adult children with minds of their own- it’s up to Kody to establish the relationships with his adult children
I tried watching when it first came out but Kody grossed me out. I started watching at 17 because of the talk of divorce.
So I joined mykelti’s patreon and she said some was Robyn and Kody but a lot of it was production too
Are you guys going to watch Christine’s wedding and react?
Here's a nice Southern phrase to help you out with describing Kody's behavior, Sam: Kody Brown is "showing his tail". 😊
It has been wonderful watching your fresh eyes become…….. stale, aged, unfreshed awakened. 😊❤😂
Christine was the mom to the kids and to Kody as well.
Aww Sam! You seem like a very compassionate good person so in light of that we have seen Kody for years say and do manipulative things. He has been negligent to his family the moment he started those mysterious long car rides to Robyn’s costing a lot of $$ when they were struggling. He hasn’t given 2 sheets about the feelings of anyone since his “ goddess’s “ arrival. He doesn’t deserve praise nor attention imho. He has a huge ego which rules over him. And Robyn is way too comfortable knowing and letting herself be Queen Bee without any care for others. They are an opportunistic couple who threw everyone away and that seems to be the real damage of polygamy. I really appreciate you and your beautiful wife’s take on the folks so thank you!!
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