One of the early things I noticed in the video was the presence of WOODEN sleepers, and these do in time reduce the grip of nails holding rails in position; at about 5 minutes in, the derailed tanks still standing are shown sitting on sleepers, where they have dropped off the rail on one side, and are sitting on the web of the sprung rail on the other. The sprung rails had partially overturned, spreading outwards, allowing the wheels to fall off the other rail; better binding of the rails to the sleepers would prevent the rail spreading and subsequent derailment. How many thousands of kilometers of line still sit on 50 year old wooden sleepers?
No sound on a B-Roll. It's just all the video with no editing. They are just gathering FACTS here. The investigation will begin later after all the evidence is gathered. Then a probable cause report will be made along with any recommendations that may prevent any future accidents or spills. Cheers, Dan
Yeah they don't post the audio because important information could otherwise be given out, though then again, some people can lip read ... (Like, people could come to false conclusions, especially the Fake News Media, LOL...)
Is the Rails old and bent or falling Apart. tracks should be up to Code but Alot of the Old Lines are not. companies like U P Lease the short main lines out to other Rail Road Companies. They Dont get The Proper Work as Needed. Rails bent. ties in bad Shap.Tracks sink Down When Train passes over.
Doesn't matter what recommendations NTSB comes up with, RRs will find a way to delay implementation and continue to cause accidents and endanger people's lives.
So... they're walking around several tank cars of Ethanol with at least one still burning. No PPE ( Personal Protective Equipment)?!? FEMA WISER states minimum safe distance in fire situation is 1/2 mile.
There really isn't much of a hazard any longer, but yes they still have to be careful. The cars are cool enough that none can build up pressure. That's when the real big hazard exists. But, still, it wouldn't be a bad idea to have PPE on!
Does not look like a lot of investigation going on. Seems to be a stroll around the accident site. No measuring tools, and a lot of acting for the camera. One person pointing out to the others that the rail rolled over. As for PPE, guess they think that they can say NTSB and nothing will happen to them. Poor example.
Actually, investigation needs little measurement among this chaos pile of scrap. Instead, they have to look for details and for damage that was _not_ caused by the accident, but might be the reason, like cracks with corrosion inside, long-term wear-out of critical parts, and traces on the track before the accident location. And for safety: maybe all ethanol that was not consumed by the fire was pumped out of the tanks.
I have some opinions but due to post 911 their not to be discussed. AND there's many highly trained MEN and professionals,,,, I hate to see the cleanup and costly too,,,
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One of the early things I noticed in the video was the presence of WOODEN sleepers, and these do in time reduce the grip of nails holding rails in position; at about 5 minutes in, the derailed tanks still standing are shown sitting on sleepers, where they have dropped off the rail on one side, and are sitting on the web of the sprung rail on the other. The sprung rails had partially overturned, spreading outwards, allowing the wheels to fall off the other rail; better binding of the rails to the sleepers would prevent the rail spreading and subsequent derailment. How many thousands of kilometers of line still sit on 50 year old wooden sleepers?
They have G-55, they are making bank for the stockholders.
Where's the sound? Are they not going to say what happened?
No sound on a B-Roll. It's just all the video with no editing. They are just gathering FACTS here. The investigation will begin later after all the evidence is gathered. Then a probable cause report will be made along with any recommendations that may prevent any future accidents or spills. Cheers, Dan
Danny Holt surely the original video recorded sound. would have been nice to hear what they were saying.
Yeah they don't post the audio because important information could otherwise be given out, though then again, some people can lip read ...
(Like, people could come to false conclusions, especially the Fake News Media, LOL...)
Made up my own sound." Now looka here boys, this dang big metal train gone dun falled off them here tracks"...
2auk
how did that train car fall???????
looks like a lot of overtime.
The peoples graffiti got air coverage at least.
Is the Rails old and bent or falling Apart. tracks should be up to Code but Alot of the Old Lines are not. companies like U P Lease the short main lines out to other Rail Road Companies. They Dont get The Proper Work as Needed. Rails bent. ties in bad Shap.Tracks sink Down When Train passes over.
Look at the ground and the water. 😢
The railroad isn't gonna be happy.
Matthew The Railfanner no shit
somebody's*...... think people in glass houses shouldnt throw stones ;)
Cars with UN 1170 hazmat placard contain Ethyl Alcohol. (AKA "Ethanol")
Doesn't matter what recommendations NTSB comes up with, RRs will find a way to delay implementation and continue to cause accidents and endanger people's lives.
Quite a mess.
Fun fact I actually live in graettinger Iowa 🙋♀️
the rails are too narrow and the wheels aren`t wide enough we also need to have the width of the tracks opened up or go slower
Uhhh Wow
So... they're walking around several tank cars of Ethanol with at least one still burning. No PPE ( Personal Protective Equipment)?!? FEMA WISER states minimum safe distance in fire situation is 1/2 mile.
There really isn't much of a hazard any longer, but yes they still have to be careful. The cars are cool enough that none can build up pressure. That's when the real big hazard exists.
But, still, it wouldn't be a bad idea to have PPE on!
Why don't you apply for a job with the NTSB and straighten these people out???
Ok Mythbusters may have gone a bit too far!
Does not look like a lot of investigation going on. Seems to be a stroll around the accident site. No measuring tools, and a lot of acting for the camera. One person pointing out to the others that the rail rolled over. As for PPE, guess they think that they can say NTSB and nothing will happen to them. Poor example.
Actually, investigation needs little measurement among this chaos pile of scrap. Instead, they have to look for details and for damage that was _not_ caused by the accident, but might be the reason, like cracks with corrosion inside, long-term wear-out of critical parts, and traces on the track before the accident location.
And for safety: maybe all ethanol that was not consumed by the fire was pumped out of the tanks.
Reconstruction video: th-cam.com/video/eqhpkFPHJiY/w-d-xo.html
GEEEE Fity-fide!!!!!!!
Poor choo choo I hope captan train lived :,(
He did
choo choo!
I have some opinions but due to post 911 their not to be discussed. AND there's many highly trained MEN and professionals,,,, I hate to see the cleanup and costly too,,,
Ya think it was an inside job do ya Mac???
defective bridge and cars filled with Hazmat this is a bad bad wreck.
Aaron Peavler/Geomodelrai
lroader Railroad Photography
More specifically, ethanol (UN 1170, Class 3 [Flammable])
Think yourself lucky it was only ethanol and not hydrochloric acid.