I could believe she was guilty if he didn’t have dog bites up and down his arm if the house wasn’t conveniently sold, if the basement wasn’t conveniently torn up if everybody didn’t conveniently lose their phones, if the dog wasn’t conveniently rehomed!! come on now!!😮
I can suggest where the so called dog bites came from. I've had marks like that on my are after an argument with a crazy lady. Her nails dug into my arm and it looks just like those marks. I think she did it. As far as the house sale, removal of the flooring and the dogs.....I don't know.
@melb2258 you must be a maga if you can't see she is being Framed ..the rest of the world can see. 😂 Brians nephew who is a MMA fighter did a number on John inside the house. Dig attacked hi...he was knocked downstairs, hit his head on the basement floor. Stood up and fell or was knocked back and hit his head again. Then drug outside bc their first plan was to say the snowplow hit him! They only changed that plan later when they found out karen had a cracked taillight. Then they get rid of the dog, the phones,the basement cement block, the house, and a 100 other things they did after the fact too. You must be blind 😂
I had to play that back twice to make sure I saw that and heard that correctly...he also did some "fed up" gesture with his hands right before he said that. Hilarious!
Prosecution witness may not have knowingly lied, but rather does not understand the report that Cellebrite generates is the starting point for the digital forensics, not the end. He merely read the report that was generated and came to some conclusions without digging into the databases to see what Cellebrite was deciphering.
Y’all..hate to say this Karen Read was drunk as a skunk and accidentally backed into John. She was too drunk to realize she did this. Who at her petite frame drinks 9 stiff drinks and drives. Shameful! In my opinion, she should be charged with manslaughter. Karen just has some damn good attorneys that have flipped the script to cause reasonable doubt.
Who goes looking for someone in a blizzard ? Who would drive around the streets,, looking for what ,,, if hes out drinking the normal is you may make a call but you would wait for him to show up in the morning Shes not all innocent Driving drunk , not with a drink in her ,, a lot of booze !!
She was WASTED (9 drinks! Who drinks n drives drunk?)… John Okeefe broke up with her in the suv on the way to the house party! Her drunk insanely jealous ass plowed him over
In order for Karen to make the statement "John was beat to death in that house", that would indicate that she knew there was bad blood between John & Arnold. WE do not know if there WAS bad blood between them. Karen had to come up with a plan B after she had already said several times, in front of LEO'S & first-responders that she hit him. If in fact they did not get along, WHY would she drive John to Arnolds' house, drop him off, and leave? SHE WAS DRIVING. She could have just taken him home. He would probably still be alive. It's obvious from the text messages she was pissed at him..............MOTIVE. Why would Karen say "I hit him, I hit him, I hit him", if she watched him go in to the house or go up to the house?
Well, Arnold must be a new player that I have missed in this case. And John was a grown-ass man. If he wanted to stay, how was she going to make him leave? And none of the LEO testified that Karen said she hit him. Jen McCabe said she said it. The person googling hos long to die in cold. The person who was quite calm in spite of the fact that “her friend who she loved” was lying in the snow, dying/dead, and she called her sister and Brian Albert before going into the house. We haven’t even heard if she ever went over to check on John before doing that. She’s a snake in the grass
@@MF-cj4by Multiple people testified that Karen said "I hit him", not just Jen McCabe. I believe also 2 of the emt/firefighters and one cop. The claim about the "Hos long" search happening at 2:27 is false. It was based on a reading of Cellebrite data. A Cellebrite decoding manager who literally helped developed the software testified that that search did not happen at 2:27. That the data actually shows that search was first made at 6:24.
I agree with the experts in this case, that have high academic achievements, skilled experienced in the field with accreditations that are actually current, go jackson
What is she actually guilty of??? The dog bites to John,r the Albert's all liyin to save each other,its so obivious he was bitten by the dog,something happened n that basement and it was never karen that did it,this judge aunt bev is doin her damdest to help the commonwealth but the truth is out,Karen is innocent
What have you heard so far that has you convinced of this? And it had to be “beyond a reasonable doubt”, not just oh, they were arguing that day, particularly because they were very warm toward each other in all the videos we saw and everyone at the bar said they were getting along fine. You just don’t like her, and that is not a reason to say she is guilty
He is confirming what expert jessica testified! The safari browser was left opened @ 2:27 am from jens search of sports but the actual search for ' hos long to die in cold' was at 6;23 & 6:24 am!
I don’t see how all these people would cover this up. She was only one with issues with him. Babysitter with benefits. She got pissed. Backed up. Hit him end of story.
Let’s just get on with convicting her already. 🙄Can you honestly say you don’t find any reasonable doubt at all in everything you’ve heard in the last almost 9 weeks now? If you say you haven’t you are lying to yourself and anyone else that will listen to you
Yes drunk and jealous still from New Year’s Eve incident … she wouldn’t let up on John over it n he broke up with her on the way to the house party which enraged her liquired up jealous “a..s”
@@LISABIRKOW-mb9krwell if that's the case he was too dumb to live judging by the fact that he's no longer alive. So if he was playing games with her I guess he thought it was worth it and he paid a price
@@deadmanswife3625 Why wouldn't he move out of the way? I mean, it's obvious that Karen hit John with the SUV. She did. It's obvious. I just don't understand what scenario would keep John standing in one spot, when there's a gigantic SUV heading your way. Was he not looking? Was he completely wasted too and just didn't notice? Was he on the phone? That was probably it. He was on the phone, she hit him, that explains why the phone was under him. Still, how did he not see the SUV?
How did all the comments change in one day. If she hit him it would have been by accident but what about his injuries, the corrupt cops, so much corruption the reversed video, the cops didnt leave their house to check on a body in his yard, he was a first resonder, Jen M. Added in to the testimony on purpose didnt say she said that at her last hearing. Seriously, and Proctor I cant even how was she treated fairly and not biased. Plus he isnt being clear in these texts, she is saying tell me you dont want me and he says are you coming over?!? He doesn't want to be with her long term anymore but he isnt ready to do the break up yet, thats why he keeps avoiding her straight forward questions, complianed about fighting but wants to not communicate and drop it and act like nothing is wrong as usual, doesnt want to be with her but didnt want to regret it either.
Absolutely not Karen didn’t kill John , why did Jennifer go call someone as soon as Karen reach her house , because Karen said she broke her taillight, so that was their opportunity to frame Karen. No one slept that night except Karen , The Albert’s & McCaba & Higgins’s we’re all up talking that night who they were going to frame . Why were all these families up talking Al Ishtar , why was it said they need to keep a tight lid on this murder in the house . Why were so many getting rid of their phones, why so many lies on the stand, what were they all hiding????? Karen was the best bet . Yet everyone in the house knows who killed John O’Keefe Brian Albert , Brian Higgins, Colin Albert . We will hear about this case later down the road. Someone will be drunk one night. & spill the beans. It will be heard & reported to police. Mark my words ! 🤷♀️
Any one see the movie Run Bambi Run, framed by the police, I believe that happened in the same state, even the city-corrupt cops in that state. She was apprehended in Ontario Canada, true events
Airplane mode is not going to block anything the way of Faraday bag would oh my God this state trooper is killing me he's so funny he speaks with such Authority and knows absolutely nothing😅😅
The more and more I hear and see the other damaged on the vehicle not just the tail light now it does really seem like she did it. I used to say I don’t think she did it but the more and more I hear this I’ll come out I believe she was really drunkdidn’t even know she hit him
@@DividerA-qs1nk So what do you think happened? Let me guess, He was beaten to death in the Albert basement, ripped to shreds by a dog and dumped in the snow. And then more than 20 people conspired to frame Karen Read. Do you think that is a more likely scenario?
So just like the medical examiners in trials the prosecutor will have their “expert” that says she didn’t do the search at 2 am then the defense will call in their “expert “ to say that she did. I’m old even to remember the OJ trial and that’s just how it goes that is if defendant has enough money to hire one the jury will consider it a wash ( IMO )
NO POLICE encounter ever benefits the taxpayer! Taxpayers want peace, safety, and security, to grow old without seeing, hearing, or meeting the enemy! - USMC (Semper Fidelis) SGT E-5 (5811)
All this testimony from IT expert, and it's useless because he didn't use the same operating system and was given limited data. Who does Lally think he's fooling???
a few important timestamps:
search history 4:52 - 11:35
knowledge c records 12:28 - 17:30
wifi connection 18:52 - 19:53
write ahead log/wall file 20:17 - 32:28
overall analysis of device 43:01 - 1:04:06
background info 1:05:37 - 1:20:00
continues 1:24:00 - 1:47:54
chat messages 1:49:27 - 2:10:15
I could believe she was guilty if he didn’t have dog bites up and down his arm if the house wasn’t conveniently sold, if the basement wasn’t conveniently torn up if everybody didn’t conveniently lose their phones, if the dog wasn’t conveniently rehomed!! come on now!!😮
I can suggest where the so called dog bites came from. I've had marks like that on my are after an argument with a crazy lady. Her nails dug into my arm and it looks just like those marks. I think she did it. As far as the house sale, removal of the flooring and the dogs.....I don't know.
Dog bites 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
They are from a dog attack
Those are not finger nail scratches
Finally came 2the conclusion,that:Judge Berv might be menopausal(hence the strange)behaviors,yeah.......
Seems to me that this group of friends liked to drink, ALOT. And drive home.
Yes the kids too 😢
This judge has issues
Why doesn’t the judge tell the prosecutor to speak up
BARS AND HEAVY DRINKING AND RELATIONSHIPS ARE NEVER EVER A GOOD MIX!
She was in the midst of it. And she ended up killing her boyfriend.
@irongirl8007 how did she kill her boyfriend?
You know, we have good eyesight and we are not deaf, so you don't have to shout.
I don’t think Karen will be dating cops anymore
I don't advise anyone to date or marry a cop.
Not from jail she wont
She won’t need to marry a cop. She will probably own Canton when it’s all over with.
Hopefully she’ll be dating just women in the state pen
😂😂@@SusieHallTX
Well these cops had friends in high places didn’t they?
yep and they still do. It's quite disgusting.
Yea, the whole country is in on “it”. Give it up. She hit him.
She isn't laughing now.
Where is the podium microphone? Hard to hear the prosecutor
Every day.
Mr. Lallygagger is a mumble mouth
Thats because he hides in head in shame. The judge even told him to look up while speaking.
So what, she was hurt and wanted to talk things out. Too many calls? I'd say so, but she was hurt. These messages mean nothing.
If you think she was hurt how do you think he felt lying there in the freezing snow after being hit by her vehicle ??
@melb2258 you must be a maga if you can't see she is being Framed ..the rest of the world can see. 😂 Brians nephew who is a MMA fighter did a number on John inside the house. Dig attacked hi...he was knocked downstairs, hit his head on the basement floor. Stood up and fell or was knocked back and hit his head again. Then drug outside bc their first plan was to say the snowplow hit him! They only changed that plan later when they found out karen had a cracked taillight. Then they get rid of the dog, the phones,the basement cement block, the house, and a 100 other things they did after the fact too. You must be blind 😂
More than hurt. She was stalking him for goodness sake. She wouldn’t leave him alone.
it hurts me watching the pain in is brothers face ;[
The judge reminds prosecutor to get near the mic every day.....
How is this judge allowed to be a judge? 😂😂
Because she follows the rules of the court. Rulings not in YOUR favor aren't grounds for anything but your tough luck.
@@pheebs818 Her demeanor is appalling. It's not only about the rulings.
No. I haven't looked since this morning. I'm watching Karen Read's trial.
Karen is a strong lady …..stay strong
Who wouldn't be strong with that much Botox in her face.
Rejected. Those can’t take rejection so they react
She has been framed John was beaten up hence his injuries Karen is innocent!
Yeah beaten up with a guy his girlfriend was flirting with? Right. And then mauled by a dog. Fairy tale. 😅😅😅
1:49.32 : Am I the only one who heard him say " kill me" under his breath... ??
Yep
No he did say it..
@@Mctrish78 he did say it..
Omg, heard that during the day then saw this post thought I was going crazy 😂
He did say it, but I don’t know what it was in response to. Very odd for sure
Not the sigh and then "k*ll me" whisper at 1:49:27 😂
He's over it !
😂😂😂th-cam.com/users/shortsLrlgzLxbFPE
I had to play that back twice to make sure I saw that and heard that correctly...he also did some "fed up" gesture with his hands right before he said that. Hilarious!
Did this guy just say a prosecution wittness lied in their report?
Prosecution witness may not have knowingly lied, but rather does not understand the report that Cellebrite generates is the starting point for the digital forensics, not the end. He merely read the report that was generated and came to some conclusions without digging into the databases to see what Cellebrite was deciphering.
Y’all..hate to say this Karen Read was drunk as a skunk and accidentally backed into John. She was too drunk to realize she did this. Who at her petite frame drinks 9 stiff drinks and drives. Shameful! In my opinion, she should be charged with manslaughter. Karen just has some damn good attorneys that have flipped the script to cause reasonable doubt.
Who goes looking for someone in a blizzard ? Who would drive around the streets,, looking for what ,,, if hes out drinking the normal is you may make a call but you would wait for him to show up in the morning
Shes not all innocent
Driving drunk , not with a drink in her ,, a lot of booze !!
Proof she backed into him please? Need evidence.
Yes Alan jackson is amazing defense
@@LISABIRKOW-mb9krhe’s brutal.
It's amazing what money can buy
She was WASTED (9 drinks! Who drinks n drives drunk?)… John Okeefe broke up with her in the suv on the way to the house party! Her drunk insanely jealous ass plowed him over
No proof of that though is there...
They ALL drink and drive drunk. They seem only to care that they're not doing so in the State's vehicles
Yes that's exactly what happened
lol. What are you talking about? There is no evidence of that ever happening.
@@ali90211 u can't just guess that's what happened u also need proof
In order for Karen to make the statement "John was beat to death in that house", that would indicate that she knew there was bad blood between John & Arnold. WE do not know if there WAS bad blood between them. Karen had to come up with a plan B after she had already said several times, in front of LEO'S & first-responders that she hit him. If in fact they did not get along, WHY would she drive John to Arnolds' house, drop him off, and leave? SHE WAS DRIVING. She could have just taken him home. He would probably still be alive. It's obvious from the text messages she was pissed at him..............MOTIVE. Why would Karen say "I hit him, I hit him, I hit him", if she watched him go in to the house or go up to the house?
Well, Arnold must be a new player that I have missed in this case. And John was a grown-ass man. If he wanted to stay, how was she going to make him leave? And none of the LEO testified that Karen said she hit him. Jen McCabe said she said it. The person googling hos long to die in cold. The person who was quite calm in spite of the fact that “her friend who she loved” was lying in the snow, dying/dead, and she called her sister and Brian Albert before going into the house. We haven’t even heard if she ever went over to check on John before doing that. She’s a snake in the grass
Cuz after she realized she shouldn’t have sang like a bird she needed to lie her way out of the grave she dug
@@MF-cj4by Multiple people testified that Karen said "I hit him", not just Jen McCabe. I believe also 2 of the emt/firefighters and one cop.
The claim about the "Hos long" search happening at 2:27 is false. It was based on a reading of Cellebrite data. A Cellebrite decoding manager who literally helped developed the software testified that that search did not happen at 2:27. That the data actually shows that search was first made at 6:24.
Exactly !!!!!!!
That's not true,none of the ist responders ever heard her sayin that
lol he says kill me!
Is that like Boston ‘s version of “f me”?
Why does the court reporter keep handing this witness a small pad and pen?
Smart Expert on Data Base !!
Karen not smiling for her fans today. The truth is Coming Out and the Jurors are Smart ⚖️ GUILTY 👍
This proves nothing sounds like a normal argument to me
I agree with the experts in this case, that have high academic achievements, skilled experienced in the field with accreditations that are actually current, go jackson
choosing the wrong partner could be fatal ⚖️ karen you are guilty.
What is she actually guilty of??? The dog bites to John,r the Albert's all liyin to save each other,its so obivious he was bitten by the dog,something happened n that basement and it was never karen that did it,this judge aunt bev is doin her damdest to help the commonwealth but the truth is out,Karen is innocent
Of course she did it justice for John and his family ❤
What have you heard so far that has you convinced of this? And it had to be “beyond a reasonable doubt”, not just oh, they were arguing that day, particularly because they were very warm toward each other in all the videos we saw and everyone at the bar said they were getting along fine. You just don’t like her, and that is not a reason to say she is guilty
Thank you - some people owe Jen an apology
😂😂 stop it right now. Go take a nap
Karen will go to prison and that will be her apology
What a boring day
Guilty
I still don’t understand it’s showing on the record but he is saying it was 6:30 instead of 2:27 how is that possible
He is confirming what expert jessica testified! The safari browser was left opened @ 2:27 am from jens search of sports but the actual search for ' hos long to die in cold' was at 6;23 & 6:24 am!
opinion, I pay you for the opinion I want the jury to hear, sad thing is most of us don't understand the verbiage that any of these experts say.
Classic. 1:49:37 Kill Me😮😅😢i feel your pain officer.at least he had the decency to refer to john as Officer O'Keefe ❤
Wow!!!! Did he really say that?!! It's so audible. I played it over
Shes guilty!
I don’t see how all these people would cover this up. She was only one with issues with him. Babysitter with benefits. She got pissed. Backed up. Hit him end of story.
Exactly
Let’s just get on with convicting her already. 🙄Can you honestly say you don’t find any reasonable doubt at all in everything you’ve heard in the last almost 9 weeks now? If you say you haven’t you are lying to yourself and anyone else that will listen to you
Yes drunk and jealous still from New Year’s Eve incident … she wouldn’t let up on John over it n he broke up with her on the way to the house party which enraged her liquired up jealous “a..s”
@@LISABIRKOW-mb9krwell if that's the case he was too dumb to live judging by the fact that he's no longer alive. So if he was playing games with her I guess he thought it was worth it and he paid a price
@@deadmanswife3625 Why wouldn't he move out of the way? I mean, it's obvious that Karen hit John with the SUV. She did. It's obvious. I just don't understand what scenario would keep John standing in one spot, when there's a gigantic SUV heading your way. Was he not looking? Was he completely wasted too and just didn't notice? Was he on the phone? That was probably it. He was on the phone, she hit him, that explains why the phone was under him. Still, how did he not see the SUV?
How did all the comments change in one day. If she hit him it would have been by accident but what about his injuries, the corrupt cops, so much corruption the reversed video, the cops didnt leave their house to check on a body in his yard, he was a first resonder, Jen M. Added in to the testimony on purpose didnt say she said that at her last hearing. Seriously, and Proctor I cant even how was she treated fairly and not biased. Plus he isnt being clear in these texts, she is saying tell me you dont want me and he says are you coming over?!? He doesn't want to be with her long term anymore but he isnt ready to do the break up yet, thats why he keeps avoiding her straight forward questions, complianed about fighting but wants to not communicate and drop it and act like nothing is wrong as usual, doesnt want to be with her but didnt want to regret it either.
The Karen clan will say his in on it lol or he was paid off
He certainly didn't want to be there he said kill me ...
Agreed, The "Karen" clan they all.sound like Karens😂
@@ssssss7816 lol
Not!!
Why is prosecutor detailing & spending so much rime on jen mccabe phone data? He should be concentrating on karen's phone data!
Because otherwise the defense will use it to make it seem like the "conspiracy" did it
Sounds like karen was the rejected lady
she did it but may walk free.
🙄🙄 yeahhhh ok
All the evidence points to people who were. In the house!
And all the ton of weird “coincidences” involving the people in that house were just coincidences.
Yes but cop (Higgins? ) shouldn’t have destroyed his phone and SIM card…. Definitely could come back as reasonable doubt
@@gdenny1748dont be fooled by defense tactics! Evidence points only to her! She was last person with john. She had the motive,opportunity & weapon.
Lubby dubby must be a MA phrase. I used it. I grew up there.
What does it mean?
@@MF-cj4by kissy and huggy
@@Gle7799oh, you mean Lovey Dovey!!
Web searches not done by KAREN!!! Done by people who were in the house
Absolutely not Karen didn’t kill John ,
why did Jennifer go call someone as soon as Karen reach her house , because Karen said she broke her taillight, so that was their opportunity to frame Karen.
No one slept that night except Karen , The Albert’s & McCaba & Higgins’s we’re all up talking that night who they were going to frame .
Why were all these families up talking Al Ishtar , why was it said they need to keep a tight lid on this murder in the house .
Why were so many getting rid of their phones, why so many lies on the stand, what were they all hiding?????
Karen was the best bet .
Yet everyone in the house knows who killed John O’Keefe
Brian Albert , Brian Higgins, Colin Albert .
We will hear about this case later down the road. Someone will be drunk one night. & spill the beans. It will be heard & reported to police. Mark my words ! 🤷♀️
You have 0 evidence about the fake framing of the alberts
Karen told Jen to search it while she was screaming and putting on a show. Watch the trial.
Ooh the plumber
Bev keeps telling him
Any one see the movie Run Bambi Run, framed by the police, I believe that happened in the same state, even the city-corrupt cops in that state. She was apprehended in Ontario Canada, true events
Karen wasn’t framed tho , she just has excellent defense attorneys
No I never did see that movie but why did you have to mention bambi? Now I'm hungry
Airplane mode is not going to block anything the way of Faraday bag would oh my God this state trooper is killing me he's so funny he speaks with such Authority and knows absolutely nothing😅😅
It’s reverse. Karen and defense are trying to frame about 60 people. Smh.
How can people think she's guilty listen to the evidence she's innocent wtf
cant believe how many of you weirdos think karens guilty 😂 its so obvious it was a cover up you really need some help guys
She is innocent why would that McNabb lady google how long to die in cold come on he was beaten not hit by her car
She hit him
It does'nt explain his injuries Jen! Polycarbonite does'nt shatter on impact either. It collapses forward.
The more and more I hear and see the other damaged on the vehicle not just the tail light now it does really seem like she did it. I used to say I don’t think she did it but the more and more I hear this I’ll come out I believe she was really drunkdidn’t even know she hit him
@@DividerA-qs1nk But what is a better explanation? Its and open and shut case. She drunkenly ran him over.
@@milart12 Its not possible based on the Prosecutors Accident Reconstructionist who was an absolute joke. The science doesn't make any sense.
@@DividerA-qs1nk So what do you think happened? Let me guess, He was beaten to death in the Albert basement, ripped to shreds by a dog and dumped in the snow. And then more than 20 people conspired to frame Karen Read. Do you think that is a more likely scenario?
Joe Biden getting the job done Biden/Harris 2024
Omg this women is so $#4$5&6_&-¥$$&
So just like the medical examiners in trials the prosecutor will have their “expert” that says she didn’t do the search at 2 am then the defense will call in their “expert “ to say that she did. I’m old even to remember the OJ trial and that’s just how it goes that is if defendant has enough money to hire one the jury will consider it a wash ( IMO )
Karen is dam lucky she can afford an excellent defense team , otherwise the jury would only hear the crooked prosecution
Recently a juror said they knew OJ was guilty, but admitted it was payback. Asked if this was right she kind of shrugged.
This web guys face looks guilty like he is lying
You are a genius
😂🤣 You’re ridiculous.
NO POLICE encounter ever benefits the taxpayer!
Taxpayers want peace, safety, and security, to grow old without seeing, hearing, or meeting the enemy!
- USMC (Semper Fidelis) SGT E-5 (5811)
Is this garino the fbi guy that showed higgins how to exrract the texts?
I don't think so.
They all did it
😮
The prosecutor is so annoying!!
No, Alan Jackson is the annoying one.
😂
The Albert's are the new murdaugh!! I swear Boston cops are dirty!! Lord and I thought we have issue in nj. You make nj boys look good!!
All this testimony from IT expert, and it's useless because he didn't use the same operating system and was given limited data. Who does Lally think he's fooling???
ALBERTS ARE KNOWN AS HIGH END DRUG DEALERS