Hey Pika, I think everyone would love to see you do a rogue tierlist in terms of pvp for every expansion. Kinda go through all the expansions and talk about what made this expansion´s rogue performance good/bad for you
There's some classes that get cool visuals, nice buffs, new playstyle because of hero talents to play around and all that shit and then there is rogue😂
I mean the class is already so great so it would be really hard to give them new things while at the same time not completely breaking them. I foresaw that issue coming, i was like no way in hell rogue's are gonna get cool hero talents without a complete class rework to go alongside new stuff... they ended up choosing not reworking and just giving them little passives to not break them. Which i like how rogue plays already so im okay with it. Hunter had the same issue though.
@@OpPopopopopoShaman's have entered the chat. Lol. But yeah no way in hell they could have gave us rogues more without seriously breaking the class. I really hope they dont force the use of capstones... I like being able to choose to overload on have having lots of passive buffs instead of choosing a new spell in talents. Sadly they didnt let balance druids get away with it in DF so i dont see it happening here either... but man I hope the frost mage no cast build makes it live.
@@austin4990 AHAHAAHHAH , half of shaman rotations are button spamming and waiting for procs, imo id put druid up there with rogues at like 2/3rds toughness just bc if youre genuinely using all 3 forms shit can get a bit wonky, rogue you have to take DRs and shit into account constantly because almost all your usefulness relies on it
The Rogue sub clearly needs a buff. If Pikaboo, a pro player, can narrate his rotation during streams and still finds it challenging, imagine a mere mortal like me in a battleground. I would have zero impact on the outcome.
Because addons don’t make a player better. Avg players think using streamers addons will make them glad. But have no idea what’s going on in game let alone what the addons doing. Difference in predictive gameplay and reactive gameplay.
You can count on one hand the nr of total yeara where assa wasnt top dog....out of 20 total. Chill. Just like arms, assa has a way to stay at the top every single time. Everybody knows that.
Crazy that subterfuge is still bugged. I reported this bug in beginning of Dragonflight multiple times as it was ruining my outlaw rotation and putting my BTE on CD sometimes and its still not fixed. lmao.
Rogue is in the worst state i have ever seen it in rogue was great in every expansion even at the start of dragonflight then was nerfed into oblivion and hasnt recovered. rogue is in the worst state i have ever seen.
Lmao, my point exactly! Stop sheeping because CC is worthless now, just hit damage buttons and the class that does most damage wins it's that simple. I am so happy I held out and didn't buy this expansion because honestly I think this expansion is the end of the road for wow. I know we will see a ton of vids telling us how good it is and why it's the best time to start wow and tbh I would do the same if it meant I didn't have to get a real job but I most certainly am not falling for this garbage
Every expansion since cata has been the end of the road for wow. Somehow DF has been arguably one if not the best expa for PvE and PVP. PM me I'll take your gold.
Sheeping is bad specifically for dot specs because it removes all dots. Assa currently revolves around spreading your dots and it fucks your damage if someone sheeps a fully dotted target. Sheeping in general isnt bad. That being said, I agree that CC should be more important than it currently is, but forum crybabies complain when they get outplayed
@@sirdernosoftides8137 Since wotlk? What a terrible take lol. TBC and classic PvP gotta be the worst it's ever been. It was fun back in the day but compared to modern expansions it's dogshit.
That’s why I can’t wait tell ashes of creation blows out wow out of water no more WOW . Cuz they can never promise anyone hint you see on there clips videos and there just all lies and ashes of creation does above and beyond that .
Yep so rogues are going to be impossible to get off yourself? The War Within seems to suck really bad, that bad I am not even buying this trash. I have no clue why they think it's a great idea to keep ramming garbage in the game, this game will rely more on playing the right spec than talent! It took me years to play this game for the first time because I thought it had no skill and was all about gear, I was wrong! here we are 2yrs later and this game has become about the build you play rather than skill, I hate pve because it's boring but now pvp is exactly the same
There are still other players who become top ranking players with every class. I think u suck which is why u are mad at a beta from a 40m vid. Thank you for leaving i guess
Stop hating when you a casual , blizzard are dogs sometimes but hero talents are sick , Gives identity to your class / spec , tuning will determine what you can play competitively but for you casual u can play anything no worries !
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such a banger line : "im not mad im just passionate" imma steal that
that was my cope the entire time i played league of legends
@@AyeeSkippy Don't act like you stopped playing league
😂😂😂@@TheOnlyTRob
@@TheOnlyTRob Once they pulled that stupid shit where they the app is always running i got rid of it right quick
@@TheOnlyTRobI quit in March after I hit diamond
whoever is editing i just realized is kinda nice with it. its all entertaining and seemlessly put in together. im fkn stoned. love the vids
Ed the Editor is a Legend
a legend mentions all SONGS USED :((((
"That guy stole your name” that was hilarious
"omg he's running Disarm. So sweaty........ I disarmed him" 😂
Love how bro calls out everything - even LUA error lol
Hey Pika, I think everyone would love to see you do a rogue tierlist in terms of pvp for every expansion. Kinda go through all the expansions and talk about what made this expansion´s rogue performance good/bad for you
There's some classes that get cool visuals, nice buffs, new playstyle because of hero talents to play around and all that shit and then there is rogue😂
rogues crying after being S tier for 4 straight seasons is outrageous lol
@@mentalgodx More like every xpac lul
Yeah rogues are boring. Hopefully no one plays them anymore. 😊
@@maxpowers4436 was about to say rogue is ALWAYS good and a safe bet to main or at least have an alt altho some nice visuals would be cool
maybe rogues will have 1st expansion where they are kinda meh, they were great always
so rog hero talents are basically +5%dmg in details? no active abilities, no change in playstyle, no visuals
I mean the class is already so great so it would be really hard to give them new things while at the same time not completely breaking them. I foresaw that issue coming, i was like no way in hell rogue's are gonna get cool hero talents without a complete class rework to go alongside new stuff... they ended up choosing not reworking and just giving them little passives to not break them. Which i like how rogue plays already so im okay with it. Hunter had the same issue though.
we already have to press 3x the amount of buttons than any other class
@@OpPopopopopoShaman's have entered the chat. Lol. But yeah no way in hell they could have gave us rogues more without seriously breaking the class. I really hope they dont force the use of capstones... I like being able to choose to overload on have having lots of passive buffs instead of choosing a new spell in talents. Sadly they didnt let balance druids get away with it in DF so i dont see it happening here either... but man I hope the frost mage no cast build makes it live.
@@austin4990 AHAHAAHHAH , half of shaman rotations are button spamming and waiting for procs, imo id put druid up there with rogues at like 2/3rds toughness just bc if youre genuinely using all 3 forms shit can get a bit wonky, rogue you have to take DRs and shit into account constantly because almost all your usefulness relies on it
@@OpPopopopopo Laughing in Shaman
WHAT'S the song at 6:45???? Omg found it: WHIPPED CREAM & BKAYE - real 4 me
God this new expansion look so exciting!
I noticed Subterfuge was bugged the first day of the Pre-patch, and Im not even a 69 time Rank 1 Gladiator ...
Pika is so funny, long since stopped playing WoW but still watch him for his banter.
"I'm not getting mad im just passionate"
xdd
I had no idea we're going from close to 2mil hp to 8mil hp in TWW, legion vibes
pika is the realest. him reading fatebound for the first time was exactly my reaction reading it for the first time hahaha. based
Whens pika gonna learn blizz does not give a single fuck about pvp. Another full aoe season on every talent.
How much is Pikas blow budget? This man doesn't speak under 1000 apm.
The Rogue sub clearly needs a buff. If Pikaboo, a pro player, can narrate his rotation during streams and still finds it challenging, imagine a mere mortal like me in a battleground. I would have zero impact on the outcome.
yeah and after that you'll see rank1 boosters one shoting you at low mmr
how I felt in DF trying to play rogue after watching pika and others... outlaw is the only brainless one I can handle
@@thegreatbolesby8612 as a rogue OTP, assa is the most dumb of the 3 specs, just spam bleeds and play like aids
@@zayon0170 I’ll take this info and run w it, never did rogue pvp for over a decade and assumed it was sub or go home
how can you be so good with simple ui, are you human? how can you follow all your debuff ? im amazed
It's not hard man if you play the game you learn how to play like that
Because addons don’t make a player better. Avg players think using streamers addons will make them glad. But have no idea what’s going on in game let alone what the addons doing. Difference in predictive gameplay and reactive gameplay.
wow pika my goat is so humble to learn from the #1 ranked player
Bro pika is just the best.. best pvper best personality out of the whole community in wow he’s the GOAT
Coccgobbler--confirmed Pika's name
Hey pika how much does it cost to rank me to glad
I really wish Details! would update the deathlog function, love it but it could be 3000x better
that Mage is prolly a Classic Player. They don't know, that Sheep, Blind removes all DoTs.
so randomly funny haha 🫶🏽
I’m here for Ele shaman on live. 😂
so funny how rogue plays how old feral used to play lmfao
There is nothing excited about Sub rogue in this expansion. All you hope is wont get another nerf next update.
That's your opinion not everyone's
@@user-eb6gr1ux6w wrong. Hes right.
pika best in the world. keep it up! very entertaining
5:55 Now I see why my damage sucks. I'm not pressing "Lua Error". Smh
Pikaboo is a paid actor. To teach us how to play
Bro is actually starting to lose it LMAO
Looking a the stacking fate buff you can see how rarely he gets past 5 stacks, Rogues got a BIG L with hero talents
the coin flip stuff confusing the hell outta me
I told them assass is good, they didn't believe me.
You can count on one hand the nr of total yeara where assa wasnt top dog....out of 20 total. Chill. Just like arms, assa has a way to stay at the top every single time. Everybody knows that.
this guy is just learning rogue on the go
he's literally r1 wym
@@timelessdota791 i think trill is best rogue world then pika then waaz
@@tomselby24troll 😂
@@tomselby24nice try.
bro how did i know new talents were gonna be a bunch of nonsense passives. why do they want so many damn passives i want to play my character
Trickster is fun
@@CovenantAgentLazarus how is it fun? you dont do anything everything is a passive.
@@mckenne1 rogue is trash anyways this expansion so it doesnt matter.
@@CovenantAgentLazarus rouge can never be trash just the majority of rogues are trash. ill still be playing rogue this xpac cuz im not trash
Because most classes have too many buttons as it is.
7 mil health pools?? 😮 Wow seems crazy these days
Dude i wish i could play with rogue like u, i'm good with DK but i touch rogue it looks like i become a toddler. FR nice gameplay
Crazy that subterfuge is still bugged. I reported this bug in beginning of Dragonflight multiple times as it was ruining my outlaw rotation and putting my BTE on CD sometimes and its still not fixed. lmao.
You hardly even dropped below 150 energy...out of 300??! Why is that necessary lol
So I think what we are saying is Assassin is better lol
How did none of you mention that rogue sprint is mostly trash now, and that re-stealthing is officially useless?
Locks seem OP
Content has been a 10 for a few years now
bro just read the coin 1 time and you will understand stop skimming LMAO that was so funny
Can you play trickster sub next?
Yo whats going on with ,,tricks" what is it and when does It use
me when ingame tooltip
Full ability name is Tricks of the trade. Useless in PvP unless you pair it with a PvP talent that increases your friendly players damage
@@Hitmaster8 thx man i saw pikaboo used that didnt know why
That is shuffle, fuck me those games are long
I do not even want to see a 3s game, must take 30 min
wait... 300 energy? what the fuck.
vigor + path of blood talents, it was like this for a long time
Anyone know the song at 14:10
Oliverse & Ellii - wish
Do you know the song at 6:45?
@16:39 he says black power lol
Good
paragraph rogue
King!!
Hope you report that mage lol
Lua error
XD
Wow is just trying to do way too much with this. Feels like a YuGiOh card for every hero talent description...
ChatGPT reword random passive from Azerite Power, Artifact Power, Covenant Talent = new content
go sub come on 3 million eviscerates is too good to pass up
Sub does NOT do 3 million eviscerates
@@CovenantAgentLazarus it does every now and then with deathstalker
@@cc66bb44 no. Not versus players
Alpha nerd laugh
fan of knives spam playstyle is so toxic
Pika discovers a new word : Glazing 😂
Subterfuge bug was bugged exactly like that for more than a year now blizzard doesnt care and dont have devs working on rogue atm
Haha pikafrod lol
PIKA can u for the love of god have the chat on the screen in your videos... its 2024 and your vids still dont have that FKKK
wow looks legitimately terrible...
first
Rogue is in the worst state i have ever seen it in rogue was great in every expansion even at the start of dragonflight then was nerfed into oblivion and hasnt recovered.
rogue is in the worst state i have ever seen.
I picked a great time to main rogue 😂😂
I fully agree though lol
That is good news actually, let all the non true rogues fade away and then buff 😂
Not first :)
Lmao, my point exactly! Stop sheeping because CC is worthless now, just hit damage buttons and the class that does most damage wins it's that simple. I am so happy I held out and didn't buy this expansion because honestly I think this expansion is the end of the road for wow. I know we will see a ton of vids telling us how good it is and why it's the best time to start wow and tbh I would do the same if it meant I didn't have to get a real job but I most certainly am not falling for this garbage
Every expansion since cata has been the end of the road for wow. Somehow DF has been arguably one if not the best expa for PvE and PVP. PM me I'll take your gold.
@ferbz5936 WoW has been shit since wotlk. Sorry lil bro, I don't give gold or money to furries.
@@sirdernosoftides8137 forgot to log on your other account?
Sheeping is bad specifically for dot specs because it removes all dots. Assa currently revolves around spreading your dots and it fucks your damage if someone sheeps a fully dotted target. Sheeping in general isnt bad.
That being said, I agree that CC should be more important than it currently is, but forum crybabies complain when they get outplayed
@@sirdernosoftides8137 Since wotlk? What a terrible take lol. TBC and classic PvP gotta be the worst it's ever been. It was fun back in the day but compared to modern expansions it's dogshit.
The game looks like shit. Needs a design overhaul. Classes have no passion. Crazy how private servers can add cooler shit. 😂😂
That’s why I can’t wait tell ashes of creation blows out wow out of water no more WOW . Cuz they can never promise anyone hint you see on there clips videos and there just all lies and ashes of creation does above and beyond that .
english
Dead game 😂
bro please refrain from publicly speaking, my brain broke reading this
We got a glazer over here
ashes of creation is vaporware
yikes losing two games in an 1800 solo shuffle, is pika washed? not sure why i waste my time watching this
cause its actually beta ? and everyone is around that mmr when he played R1 /awc champs ect
Yep so rogues are going to be impossible to get off yourself? The War Within seems to suck really bad, that bad I am not even buying this trash. I have no clue why they think it's a great idea to keep ramming garbage in the game, this game will rely more on playing the right spec than talent! It took me years to play this game for the first time because I thought it had no skill and was all about gear, I was wrong! here we are 2yrs later and this game has become about the build you play rather than skill, I hate pve because it's boring but now pvp is exactly the same
There are still other players who become top ranking players with every class. I think u suck which is why u are mad at a beta from a 40m vid. Thank you for leaving i guess
Stop hating when you a casual , blizzard are dogs sometimes but hero talents are sick , Gives identity to your class / spec , tuning will determine what you can play competitively but for you casual u can play anything no worries !