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Surprising Facts IGN0RED BY CHR|ST|ANS & H|NDUS Ekam evadvitiyam > God is only one without a second ( Chandogya..Upanishad 6 : 2 :1 ) Jesus, said, “Hear, 0 Israel : The Lord 0ur God is one. ( Mark 12 : 29 - 31 ) Jesus.compared himself with the people by saying our God is One ( This proves he Is not God ) If Jesus was God, why did he tell the people to believe in only 0ne God & why did he not say me & God are your 2 Gods❓ Dear CHRISTIANS & HINDUS atleast follow the books you claim to believe in 🙏🏼
Science tells us if the sun was a little closer to earth life would end due to hot weather & if the sun was a little further away from earth life would end due to cold weather. Atheist is this by chance the sun is in the perfect spot ❓ A Question for every Christian who tries to prove the Quran wrong with Science 👉🏼 As you know science is still searching for God 🔭 Which means science does not believe in the existence of God Christians do you agree with $cience on this matter ❓
Hadith on Sleep: An angel and devil approach you at bedtime Jabir reported : The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “When a man retires to his bed, an angel and a devil rush to him. The angel says: End your day with good! The devil says: End your day with evil! If he remembers Allah and then falls sleep, the angel will spend the night to take care of him.” Source : al-Sunan al-Kubrā lil-Nasā’ī 10624 👿 🛌🏼
This guy trying to debate with suboor but everything is going over his head like whoosh. Mashallah Suboor is so charismatic, may Allah continue to bless him with knowledge and courage to speak
@@x-men6177 There are no „Islamic countries“ there are only Muslim majority countries. And there are more them enough non-Muslims that preach hate against Islam that are free and aren‘t persecuted. Don‘t be stupid and follow non reliable sources like media and stuff
@@md.hattahhairulizamdulli5317 That show thier education and universities just shity and cannot bring anything but useless people with corrupt people. as garbage and rubbish!!!!
The Difference between Bhagwan & Allah is, Allah created the humans & the humans created Bhagwan Surprising Facts IGN0RED BY HINDUS Ekam evadvitiyam > God is only one without a second ( Chandogya..Upanishad 6 : 2 :1 ) Na tasya pratima asti > There is no likeness of Him. ( Svetasvatara..Upanishad 4 :19 ) Na tasya pratima asti > There is no image of Him ( Yajurveda...32 : 3 )
Yes the atheist may not be the best debater, perhaps not the smartest guy. Nonetheless we did evolve naturally, that’s a fact. The rest is conversation...
Subboor is really smart mashaa’Allah. I’d have loved to have him present back when our GCSE physics teacher used to spend whole lessons debating the class on science vs religion. Subboor would have schooled him so hard 😆
Mashalla Saboor is so educated a gift given to him by Almighty Allah . What a logic he throws at these Atheists & non Muslims. I am a 63 yrs old Muslim but my brain cells gets moving with this young brother Saboor . allahumdulla
what i like about Suboor is, he does not mind people believing what they believe, as long as they actually understand the very foundations of why they believe it, and willing to have a intellectual discussion over it, the reality of nowadays so call 'intelligent' people are more prone to sheepish behaviour is very worrying, since the awake of someone like Richard Dawkins, Neil deGrassee and many more, yes they speak nice but that does not always equal truth, think and learn, truth has to be seeked, like Br Suboor said question the belief that we have been 'socialized' into, this is even directed at someone like myself who are born muslim who is taking for granted on what i am, thats why Allah swt has mentioned in the Quran for us to Read, seek knowledge, and be honest, only then we can protect ourselves from the danger of ignorance and feeding our excessive desire which is a plague in this so called modern world
@Michael Cameron try and discuss with him at his youtube channel, if you have instill belief that he is wrong, theres even a link down below, feel free to refute him, i cant speak on behalf of him, but it irks me when people just assuming things they dont get hold the entierety of instead of asking to get a clear view first, do you know why and how he establish the Quran as the word of God as source of truth? based on what you wrote i see no indication of that correct me if im wrong, if not you just arrived at a conclusion of pure ignorance, id love to meet your so called rationalize muslim friend btw
SubhanAllah. I am appreciative of the lessons learnt in this video even though a lot is over my head. Lol. Inshallah hearts will be opened to the truth. ♥️
@@tino4a they were talking about atheism not about islam . science every 10 years they say this was wrong end they create something new end start from there again end science is the new religion because you need to believe that only 50 people in the world can solve the big bang equation end you can’t make the experiment
@@uranimehmeti6256 Muhammad took the God Al - Ilah from the Arabic Pantheon and make it the true and the only superior God or Allah. (This is exactly what Zarathustra did some 1200 years before Muhammad he (Zarathustra) make Ahura Mazda the only God.
@@uranimehmeti6256 Science is NOT like your religion. Science is just a tool to know the things around us. And no one is arguing whatever science says is the absolute truth. The peculiar nature of science is that it updates itself with new ideas and accepts the Truth based on evidence, unlike religion which has the same mindless customs, rituals, barbaric laws, imaginary God who gives you virgins to f*ck, heaven, hell with ZERO evidence that they actually exists. So science >>>>>>>>>> religion. I believe science is a tool which destroys religion. That's why most of the theists hate science 😄
always have hole waiting you🤣🤣 MasyaAllah 😘 Subhanallah i 💙love bro sabur,hashim,mansur ,shamsi and ALL DAKWAH TEAM MAY ALLAH GRAND the highest palace in JANNAH INSYALLAH
@@izzatkhan2771 dude, enjoy Allah's creations k.. they can be super asshole beings but some of them can be super chilled out people who perhaps are slightly misguided (heck i am muslim and i aint perfect myself).. id rather have a chilled out conversation about Allah than an inflammatory one.
my science man was afraid to answer because he knows the outcome. and even for the most basic questions, he took a few or more seconds to analyze if he will say anything that will make him fall deeper into this hole.
A better statement is “Science is the best known method to discover material truth” it can’t do much to examine philosophy or tell you how to behave but it’s the best way to understand everything else
@AkhiSalafiyyah Even if you believe in god you come to that belief using those same faculties that may be wrong. They are all we have and using them to test ideas and theories has provided results that best match reality so far. Being a believer doesn’t change that, if it does then please tell me what am I supposed to use to come to conclusions?
@AkhiSalafiyyah I don’t see how rationality is random from a naturalistic point of view. What I’m saying is that science achieves the best results and makes the best predictions about reality, no other way of understanding the world can do that to the same degree.
@AkhiSalafiyyah I don’t know anyone who believes the universe or it’s origin is random. Certainly since its origin it conforms to the laws of physics etc... How does science changing mean it isn’t objective?
@AkhiSalafiyyah science changes because it has to alter according to new discoveries in the world this is perfectly objective because it operated according to facts not beliefs.
Back to basic. Every bit of mental experience that is experienced and recognized(through scientific observations or non-scientific hearings, seeings and feelings) by a living conscious human mind is information. They are all a kind of "message" which are of no different to messages in many modes deliver books or electronics media. It is intituively common sense to understand and accept that for every message there is sender and receiver, and only a consciously living intelligent mind can create and send messages and it is true also that only a consciouly living Intelligent mind can understand the received messages after decoding them. Thus it is common sense too to accept the fact that the whole universe/natural world is only a "message" from an All-Living Supernatural Intelligent Being - it Almighty Creator/The God. Sciences are trying to decoding those messages appeared as physical world realities. This is the authentic message of Abrahamic faith (Islamic faith of the authentic millah Ibrahim AS), and is confirmed and have been continuously reaffirmed through series of Prophets of the Almighty Creator ( namely Allah in Arabic or alQuranic term) - amongst them Abraham AS, David AS, Moses AS, Isa@Jesus AS and the final one Muhammad SAW, and His Books of Revelation - such as Zabur, Taurat, Injil and AlQuran. AlQuran is the final one and the only one remains authentic since it was revealed through the Final Prophet Muhammad SAW in Arabic language.
The arrogance of the man is outstanding. Over and over he did not understand, he asked for explanation, he retracted some statements, he was corrected, he was guided yet not once could he stop and think "Ok this guy is really coming up with good solid responses, clearly I am out of depth here and I need to stand back, put my pride, small-mindedness and arrogance aside and give some time to sit with this man called Saboor and really get to understand what he is saying. I can then go away and research, study and then come back to him with a response and if I can not find a response then let me think about this man is saying and if it makes sense"
If God needed a cause, then God is not God (and if God is not God, then of course there is no God). And if i said that someone created god then you will ask me, Who created the creator of the Creator? Then, who created the creator of the creator of the creator?! And so on, ad infinitum. This is irrational and impossible. If I said that god x created god then the next question would naturally be "who created god x?" If I said that god a created god x then the next question would be "who created god a?" The question could go on forever. Things had to have started somewhere and somehow. There had to have been a first. If there is a first start for the whole universe then it has to be from a main cause that can not have a beginning and don't have a cause. And thats why we say the main cause is god the ever living who don't have a beginning or an end, and if we keep saying who created god then we have to say who created that god, and then who created that other god and what god created that and so we will go for infinity and in that case we wont get to the point where we exists in our present time because we will be in the past infinity. So god is the creator who don't have a beginning or an end and he is the ever living. The concept of a creator is derived from logic, mainly causality. You can say that the big bang is what gave rise to the universe but then you have to ask what caused the big bang? And then what caused that big bang? You'll be stuck in a infinite loop asking what caused that and what caused that, etc. We as human beings experience things in space and time, you need something that sits outside of space and time that gave rise to that first initial event, so if you say no the big bang gave rise to the universe, then you have to ask what gave rise to that, and then youll just keep asking that infinitely. This thing that sits outside of space and time we call the creator/God because by its very nature, the creator/God isnt bound by space and time, God is infinite.
اللهم صل و سلم على سيدنا و نبينا محمد و على آله و صحبه و سلم تسليما. From my lenses, this atheist is pre-disposed to be a Muslim; he's unlike the others because he's not arrogant and he accepts intellectual collisions due to new data.
The guy witht the black and white kufi hat has destroyed the image of Islam in the park....brothers like him should stay away from the park for the benefit of islam, and let the real dawah brothers propogate islam.
@@Noname-kp7cs i never said it was because of this particular video.... im talking about all the other crap hes done in the park over the last couple years, fighting and acting like a idiot.
Hello. I am an atheist. I define atheism as suspending acknowledgement of the existence of gods until sufficient evidence can be presented. My position is that *_I have no good reason to acknowledge the existence of gods._* And here is the evidence as to why I currently hold to such a position. 1. I personally have never observed a god. 2. I have never encountered a person whom has claimed to have observed a god. 3. I know of no accounts of persons claiming to have observed a god that were willing or able to demonstrate or verify their observation for authenticity, accuracy, or validity. 4. I have never been presented a valid logical argument which also employed sound premises that lead deductively to a conclusion that a god(s) exists. 5. Of the 46 logical syllogisms I have encountered arguing for the existence of a god(s), I have found all to contain multiple fallacious or unsubstantiated premises. 6. I have never observed a phenomenon in which the existence of a god was a necessary antecedent for the known or probable explanation for the causation of that phenomenon. 7. Several proposed (and generally accepted) explanations for observable phenomena that were previously based on the agency of a god(s), have subsequently been replaced with rational, natural explanations, each substantiated with evidence that excluded the agency of a god(s). I have never encountered _vice versa._ 8. I have never experienced the presence of a god through intercession of angels, divine revelation, the miraculous act of divinity, or any occurrence of a supernatural event. 9. Every phenomenon that I have ever observed has *_emerged_* from necessary and sufficient antecedents over time without exception. In other words, I have never observed a phenomenon (entity, process, object, event, process, substance, system, or being) that was created _ex nihilo_ - that is instantaneously came into existence by the solitary volition of a deity. 10. All claims of a supernatural or divine nature that I have encountered have either been refuted to my satisfaction, or do not present as falsifiable. ALL of these facts lead me to the only rational conclusion that concurs with the realities I have been presented - and that is the fact that there is *_no good reason_* for me to acknowledge the existence of a god. I have heard often that atheism is the denial of the Abrahamic god. But denial is the active rejection of a substantiated fact once credible evidence has been presented. Atheism is simply withholding such acknowledgement until sufficient credible evidence is introduced. *_It is natural, rational, and prudent to be skeptical of unsubstatiated claims, especially extraordinary ones._* I welcome any cordial response. Peace.
Saying that Atheism is a religion is like saying that a frisbee is a breakfast cereal. Both are equally stupid statements :) I've ALWAYS laughed at this argument, for two reasons. First.....the religious insult themselves by making a claim that Atheism is just as dumb a "belief system" as their own. Second, it's impossible to have a religion that rejects the concept of faith in favor of skepticism, while having NO headquarters, NO religious leaders, NO ideology, and NO social, political or economic goals. It is the rejection of a claim based on lack of credible, demonstrable evidence. It literally starts and stops there. Every time the religious use this argument, you can bet it's based on desperation, spine-tingling fear, and silliness. You've got them on the ropes. Just press your attack.
Suboor is such a dishonest narcissist, he constantly attempts to build a straw man argument to prove a point his opponent is not making. Still waiting for how the winged horse thing works without the suspension of physics.
Allah is the only god and the quran are the words of allah...athiesm is simply arrogance and ignorance and the denial.of believing the truth. Science is based on theory ..which is always open to criticism. I know this as i got DD in my gcse science 😀
JESUS CANT TO BE LORD CAUSE GOD IS A LORD AND IF JESUS IS GOD SO GOD IS HUMAN BUT THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE CAUSE GOD IS A LORD AND JESUS ARE NOT AND NOONE CANT TO BE A GOD
@@ninnikauralaskaite4877 to believe is to know nothing. I know I don't know if a god exists because there is no evidence either way. Why therefore would I believe something without evidence? I do not believe. I make no claim about a deity. I'm indifferent.
Is atheism a religion? Nope. No more than rejection of ghosts is a religion. But here's another key difference: I can go on for hours naming hypothetical discoveries or occurrences that would cause me, a staunch atheist, to admit that theism is the rational choice. If some theist prays to his god(s) for the power to walk on water; to float through the air; to move objects telekinetically; to see just fine through a blindfold; to correctly name a randomly drawn playing card a mere 20% of the time...then belief justified! I could go on for hours. But invite any theist to do likewise: name some hypothetical discoveries or occurrences that would cause them to admit that atheism is the rational choice and what will you hear? Crickets. Bias exposed!
@@loftilhan4868 This is like asking you, "how can you subjectively justify your morality with a religious worldview?" It goes like this: 1. There is no evidence of anything being created supernaturally. All the evidence we have is natural evidence. 2. Since there is no evidence of supernatural, it's ridiculous to think anything can come from supernatural. We don't know, we would have to test this supernatural first. 3. So when it comes to morals, we can believe they are subjective..........because we have no evidence of this "objective source" or "supernatural source". 4. Therefore we have no reason to objectively justify morals...........since we believe they are subjective. But this is way off topic from the original post, which you didn't refute at all. I wonder why? Because you know you can't? If atheism is a religion, then so is your lack of belief in Bigfoot and unicorns...........therefore atheism cannot be a religion. Religion is a set of beliefs, whereas atheism is the lack of belief.
@@scottholder4431 Okay so you believe in subjective morality? Then hitler was completely morally sound. You can’t say otherwise because that’s my opinion and it’s worth as much as yours.
@@shiningstarsinthedarknight733 Let's start with the obvious, how can you determine if allah wills you to reply to me or not ? Prove to me that your reply has been willed or not willed ?
@@paul512bmi If i choose to do something then this is it. I can only try. But Allah Almighty will give the result. If He wills, he would nake me succeed in what i want or not.
@@shiningstarsinthedarknight733 Again, how do you provide evidence of this ? All you're doing is making a claim, so provide evidence that if you answer a question its because allah willed you to ? I'll need empirical evidence BTW, not just another "claim"
@@paul512bmi a person done so much effort to achieve his goals, he has made plans and executed his plans accordingly. He has kept all the things in mind that may prevent him from achieving his goals. And there is second person who wants something but he hasnt done anything to achieve it. The first person is unable to achieve his goals, even after so much struggling and after so much dedication. And second person gets what he wanted even if he hasnt done anything. So what is it? Its the will of Allah Almighty!!!
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Surprising Facts IGN0RED BY CHR|ST|ANS & H|NDUS
Ekam evadvitiyam > God is only one without a second ( Chandogya..Upanishad 6 : 2 :1 )
Jesus, said, “Hear, 0 Israel : The Lord 0ur God is one. ( Mark 12 : 29 - 31 )
Jesus.compared himself with the people by saying our God is One
( This proves he Is not God )
If Jesus was God, why did he tell the people to believe in only 0ne God & why did he not say me & God are your 2 Gods❓
Dear CHRISTIANS & HINDUS atleast follow the books you claim to believe in 🙏🏼
Science tells us if the sun was a little closer to earth life would end due to hot weather & if the sun was a little further away from earth life would end due to cold weather.
Atheist is this by chance the sun is in the perfect spot ❓
A Question for every Christian who tries to prove the Quran wrong with Science 👉🏼 As you know science is still searching for God 🔭
Which means science does not believe in the existence of God
Christians do you agree with $cience on this matter ❓
CAN ALLAH LIVE BY HIMSELF?
Saboor is truly a Master.
Muslim just only have brave to make talk in non muslim countries. Try talk in muslim countries than you know what will happen to you.
@@x-men6177 In fact, you have the freedom to talk about any religion in muslim countries.
Masha Allah
@@thefool6412 talk about any religion but cannot involve corruption. because corruption allow in their religion
@@x-men6177 What kind of corruption are talking about ?
My goodness Suboor is an absolute genius. Mashallah.
Wise man indeed. SubhanAllah wa bihamdih SubhanAllahil Azheem.
Hadith on Sleep: An angel and devil approach you at bedtime
Jabir reported : The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “When a man retires to his bed, an angel and a devil rush to him. The angel says: End your day with good! The devil says: End your day with evil! If he remembers Allah and then falls sleep, the angel will spend the night to take care of him.”
Source : al-Sunan al-Kubrā lil-Nasā’ī 10624 👿 🛌🏼
This guy trying to debate with suboor but everything is going over his head like whoosh. Mashallah Suboor is so charismatic, may Allah continue to bless him with knowledge and courage to speak
Just love how Suboor educates smart alecks like this dude and make them feel Spongebob Trianglepants
Muslim just only have brave to make talk in non muslim countries. Try talk in muslim countries than you know what will happen to you.
@@x-men6177 LOL... really?? And what was the outcome?
@@x-men6177 There are no „Islamic countries“ there are only Muslim majority countries. And there are more them enough non-Muslims that preach hate against Islam that are free and aren‘t persecuted. Don‘t be stupid and follow non reliable sources like media and stuff
@@md.hattahhairulizamdulli5317 That show thier education and universities just shity and cannot bring anything but useless people with corrupt people. as garbage and rubbish!!!!
@@x-men6177 you should be a comedian! LMAO! wakakakakaka X-Men tell me what's 1+1+1 equals to??
The Atheist chap actually doesn't know or understand anything what the Muslim guy said, he pretended to be cool and smart but he wasn't.
The Difference between Bhagwan & Allah is, Allah created the humans & the humans created Bhagwan
Surprising Facts IGN0RED BY HINDUS
Ekam evadvitiyam > God is only one without a second
( Chandogya..Upanishad 6 : 2 :1 )
Na tasya pratima asti > There is no likeness of Him.
( Svetasvatara..Upanishad 4 :19 )
Na tasya pratima asti > There is no image of Him
( Yajurveda...32 : 3 )
They come in thinking they are intellectually superior but quickly find out religious people can also be intelligent and get shut down
he was like "damn! im so @#$%&* up, but i must control my macho by playing idiot"
Yes the atheist may not be the best debater, perhaps not the smartest guy. Nonetheless we did evolve naturally, that’s a fact. The rest is conversation...
@@AjejeB What do you mean by naturally?
It is not from the eyes that they are blind, it is from the hearts
Whenever I see SUBOOR in a video I say to myself “it’s about to go down”💯
Subboor is really smart mashaa’Allah. I’d have loved to have him present back when our GCSE physics teacher used to spend whole lessons debating the class on science vs religion. Subboor would have schooled him so hard 😆
First time listening to brother Saboor he is good. May Allah protect and reward him.
But he's wrong. Allah won't be happy.
@@darcymr353 😂 get well soon
@@usmanzaib574 ouch, that stung!
Mashalla Saboor is so educated a gift given to him by Almighty Allah . What a logic he throws at these Atheists & non Muslims. I am a 63 yrs old Muslim but my brain cells gets moving with this young brother Saboor . allahumdulla
May Allah keep brother subboors Shadow over us for long! AMEEN
what i like about Suboor is, he does not mind people believing what they believe, as long as they actually understand the very foundations of why they believe it, and willing to have a intellectual discussion over it, the reality of nowadays so call 'intelligent' people are more prone to sheepish behaviour is very worrying, since the awake of someone like Richard Dawkins, Neil deGrassee and many more, yes they speak nice but that does not always equal truth, think and learn, truth has to be seeked, like Br Suboor said question the belief that we have been 'socialized' into, this is even directed at someone like myself who are born muslim who is taking for granted on what i am, thats why Allah swt has mentioned in the Quran for us to Read, seek knowledge, and be honest, only then we can protect ourselves from the danger of ignorance and feeding our excessive desire which is a plague in this so called modern world
@Michael Cameron try and discuss with him at his youtube channel, if you have instill belief that he is wrong, theres even a link down below, feel free to refute him, i cant speak on behalf of him, but it irks me when people just assuming things they dont get hold the entierety of instead of asking to get a clear view first, do you know why and how he establish the Quran as the word of God as source of truth? based on what you wrote i see no indication of that correct me if im wrong, if not you just arrived at a conclusion of pure ignorance, id love to meet your so called rationalize muslim friend btw
Speakers corner brothers are really making us proud
FACT: "sharks only attack when wet!"
Saboor you are always teaching me new things and thoughts... بارك الله فيك ومن رباك اللهم يا أرحم الراحمين ارحم صبور... ❤️👍🏻💯 MashaAllah ...
Subour was running rings around him 😂
With science yes. But his religion is still fake 😂😂
@@tino4a HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHA You have no proof to say that Islam is fake. LMAO
@@ADT2000 😂😂 and you have less proof to state that your religion is real.
@@mohameda5947You come here so certified that your fake religion ha truth to it’s arguments.
@@ADT2000 ignorant that your religion is real. You live ins q world where religion is your only basis of truth
Suboor is really a good teacher, i agree! What a educated human being!
Suboor is the dude!!
Atheists living in their own world. 😂
i love this discussion
Muslim just only have brave to make talk in non muslim countries. Try talk in muslim countries than you know what will happen to you.
SubhanAllah. I am appreciative of the lessons learnt in this video even though a lot is over my head. Lol. Inshallah hearts will be opened to the truth. ♥️
MaShaAllah brother Saboor is a genius. May Allah Swt accept you and us. Ameen.
when you destroy science with science this is what I like too watch
Would you also love to watch Islam
Destroyed by science ?
@@tino4a they were talking about atheism not about islam .
science every 10 years they say this was wrong end they create something new end start from there again end science is the new religion because you need to believe that only 50 people in the world can solve the big bang equation end you can’t make the experiment
Fighting fire with fire
@@uranimehmeti6256 Muhammad took the God Al - Ilah from the Arabic Pantheon and make it the true and the only superior God or Allah. (This is exactly what Zarathustra did some 1200 years before Muhammad he (Zarathustra) make Ahura Mazda the only God.
@@uranimehmeti6256 Science is NOT like your religion. Science is just a tool to know the things around us. And no one is arguing whatever science says is the absolute truth. The peculiar nature of science is that it updates itself with new ideas and accepts the Truth based on evidence, unlike religion which has the same mindless customs, rituals, barbaric laws, imaginary God who gives you virgins to f*ck, heaven, hell with ZERO evidence that they actually exists. So science >>>>>>>>>> religion.
I believe science is a tool which destroys religion. That's why most of the theists hate science 😄
Jazakumullahu khairan
always have hole waiting you🤣🤣 MasyaAllah 😘 Subhanallah i 💙love bro sabur,hashim,mansur ,shamsi and ALL DAKWAH TEAM MAY ALLAH GRAND the highest palace in JANNAH INSYALLAH
Subboor arguments, voice, clarity, intellecf is such a therapy
The old guy laughing😂😂❤️👌
Muslim just only have brave to make talk in non muslim countries. Try talk in muslim countries than you know what will happen to you.
@@x-men6177 what will we talk about😂we are believers they don’t need this talk non muslims need this talk
@@HusseinAbdi-lf5oc talk with corrupt.
talk without example is nothing
@@x-men6177 looool dumb and salty
بارك الله فيكم
The Universal truth..that is..youre truth is yours..and yours only...
nah i still dig this dude.. he's chill.. Suboor is of course excellent, but this guy's vibe is pretty chill..
That's arrogance
@@izzatkhan2771 dude, enjoy Allah's creations k.. they can be super asshole beings but some of them can be super chilled out people who perhaps are slightly misguided (heck i am muslim and i aint perfect myself).. id rather have a chilled out conversation about Allah than an inflammatory one.
THIS IS BRILLIANT. Mr. Saboor.
Saboor love u brother ❤️❤️❤️
Wallahi I felt like I was student in class for second wow mash Allah brother Subboor
Ths is how thy ran away whn thy loose.
Dont forget to send plenty of salawat on the best of creations.
Alhumma salleh alah mohammadin wa ala ale Mohammed...
my science man was afraid to answer because he knows the outcome. and even for the most basic questions, he took a few or more seconds to analyze if he will say anything that will make him fall deeper into this hole.
What the hell are you talking about? :) LOL
Lmao, these atheists be like "but science!"
These theist be like “but god”, “but our prophet”, “but a creator”.
@oscarcr80 they dont like that be careful
@oscarcr80 when we are sick we go to hospital not mosque
@oscarcr80 what! Btw we don't pray to but rather we worship God I wanna introduce myself I'm a (Muslim)= the one who submitted his will to God
@The Visiting Soul Nah, they just ignored that. Remember they are people of "data and observation"
When you just want to prove your point without having a genuine enquiry
No matter what you say or prove to athiest, they would always reply "yes but i still"
may allah give saboor hayat and more knowledge
I found it funny when they can't stay consistent with themselves, completely indoctrinated and thinks that he's free
The fact of the matter is that we did evolve naturally, there’s a ton of evidence for it
A better statement is “Science is the best known method to discover material truth” it can’t do much to examine philosophy or tell you how to behave but it’s the best way to understand everything else
@AkhiSalafiyyah Even if you believe in god you come to that belief using those same faculties that may be wrong. They are all we have and using them to test ideas and theories has provided results that best match reality so far. Being a believer doesn’t change that, if it does then please tell me what am I supposed to use to come to conclusions?
@AkhiSalafiyyah I don’t see how rationality is random from a naturalistic point of view. What I’m saying is that science achieves the best results and makes the best predictions about reality, no other way of understanding the world can do that to the same degree.
@AkhiSalafiyyah I don’t know anyone who believes the universe or it’s origin is random. Certainly since its origin it conforms to the laws of physics etc...
How does science changing mean it isn’t objective?
@AkhiSalafiyyah science changes because it has to alter according to new discoveries in the world this is perfectly objective because it operated according to facts not beliefs.
Choosing not not have a religion is not a religion.
There are some really smart guys
Saboor🧠💪
Suboor 💪🙌👏👏👏
Omg Sabor is so genius
Back to basic.
Every bit of mental experience that is experienced and recognized(through scientific observations or non-scientific hearings, seeings and feelings) by a living conscious human mind is information. They are all a kind of "message" which are of no different to messages in many modes deliver books or electronics media.
It is intituively common sense to understand and accept that for every message there is sender and receiver, and only a consciously living intelligent mind can create and send messages and it is true also that only a consciouly living Intelligent mind can understand the received messages after decoding them.
Thus it is common sense too to accept the fact that the whole universe/natural world is only a "message" from an All-Living Supernatural Intelligent Being - it Almighty Creator/The God. Sciences are trying to decoding those messages appeared as physical world realities.
This is the authentic message of Abrahamic faith (Islamic faith of the authentic millah Ibrahim AS), and is confirmed and have been continuously reaffirmed through series of Prophets of the Almighty Creator ( namely Allah in Arabic or alQuranic term) - amongst them Abraham AS, David AS, Moses AS, Isa@Jesus AS and the final one Muhammad SAW, and His Books of Revelation - such as Zabur, Taurat, Injil and AlQuran.
AlQuran is the final one and the only one remains authentic since it was revealed through the Final Prophet Muhammad SAW in Arabic language.
The arrogance of the man is outstanding. Over and over he did not understand, he asked for explanation, he retracted some statements, he was corrected, he was guided yet not once could he stop and think "Ok this guy is really coming up with good solid responses, clearly I am out of depth here and I need to stand back, put my pride, small-mindedness and arrogance aside and give some time to sit with this man called Saboor and really get to understand what he is saying. I can then go away and research, study and then come back to him with a response and if I can not find a response then let me think about this man is saying and if it makes sense"
Having a "smart" vocabulary doesn't necessarily make you smart. That would be the conclusion of this conversation 😉
are there no new videos?
Yes it is
If God needed a cause, then God is not God (and if God is not God, then of course there is no God). And if i said that someone created god then you will ask me, Who created the creator of the Creator? Then, who created the creator of the creator of the creator?! And so on, ad infinitum. This is irrational and impossible. If I said that god x created god then the next question would naturally be "who created god x?" If I said that god a created god x then the next question would be "who created god a?" The question could go on forever. Things had to have started somewhere and somehow. There had to have been a first.
If there is a first start for the whole universe then it has to be from a main cause that can not have a beginning and don't have a cause. And thats why we say the main cause is god the ever living who don't have a beginning or an end, and if we keep saying who created god then we have to say who created that god, and then who created that other god and what god created that and so we will go for infinity and in that case we wont get to the point where we exists in our present time because we will be in the past infinity. So god is the creator who don't have a beginning or an end and he is the ever living. The concept of a creator is derived from logic, mainly causality. You can say that the big bang is what gave rise to the universe but then you have to ask what caused the big bang? And then what caused that big bang? You'll be stuck in a infinite loop asking what caused that and what caused that, etc. We as human beings experience things in space and time, you need something that sits outside of space and time that gave rise to that first initial event, so if you say no the big bang gave rise to the universe, then you have to ask what gave rise to that, and then youll just keep asking that infinitely. This thing that sits outside of space and time we call the creator/God because by its very nature, the creator/God isnt bound by space and time, God is infinite.
If atheism is a religion I want my tax exemption status
I kinda feel bad for the atheist guy 😭
PLEASE RECITE SURAH KAHF.
"Me and you are going to die one day..."
_check phone_
"I need to go and eat..."
ما شاء الله
BEST SACRIXICE IS IF YOURE ALONE
Hi to the people that are early who see this early comment 🤓
I’d like to know what are the alternatives theories to evolution he thinks should be thought
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Went over his head.. poor guy had to hit the bong hard enough just to suppress logic
HELL IS EMPTYNESS
QURAN AND BIBLE SAYD, YOURE FREE, GO HOME AND REST
Why is that brother standing on the railing like that? 😭
@hersubonopoin..cocok utk di adu dgn @Rocky Gerung
I dont get it
QURAN AND BIBLE SAYS IF YOU CANT SO WHY YOU CANT AND IF YOU CAN SO RIGHT AWAY NOW
PARADISE IS EMPTYNESS
the area between your ears is emptyness
The guy on the right looks and sounds similar to Charlie veitch
Yup lol
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Right
QURAN AND BIBLE SAYD YOURE FREE
Asalamualikum brothers
U should also create a video about how to give dawah and were we can learn for dawah fully basic to advance..
اللهم صل و سلم على سيدنا و نبينا محمد و على آله و صحبه و سلم تسليما.
From my lenses, this atheist is pre-disposed to be a Muslim; he's unlike the others because he's not arrogant and he accepts intellectual collisions due to new data.
Yeah he is not arrogant and like to have discussion,eventually he will accepts Islam insyaAllah
We are thirsty for saburian debates on a proper stage with big wig atheists .... Sabur is Ahmad Deedat for atheists
The guy witht the black and white kufi hat has destroyed the image of Islam in the park....brothers like him should stay away from the park for the benefit of islam, and let the real dawah brothers propogate islam.
@@Noname-kp7cs i never said it was because of this particular video.... im talking about all the other crap hes done in the park over the last couple years, fighting and acting like a idiot.
@@brewfortwo Yeah I think so too, but I hope this doesnt prevent others from accepting the truth of Islam
@@brewfortwo agree.
@@brewfortwo fighting? You mean defending himself
Hello. I am an atheist. I define atheism as suspending acknowledgement of the existence of gods until sufficient evidence can be presented. My position is that *_I have no good reason to acknowledge the existence of gods._*
And here is the evidence as to why I currently hold to such a position.
1. I personally have never observed a god.
2. I have never encountered a person whom has claimed to have observed a god.
3. I know of no accounts of persons claiming to have observed a god that were willing or able to demonstrate or verify their observation for authenticity, accuracy, or validity.
4. I have never been presented a valid logical argument which also employed sound premises that lead deductively to a conclusion that a god(s) exists.
5. Of the 46 logical syllogisms I have encountered arguing for the existence of a god(s), I have found all to contain multiple fallacious or unsubstantiated premises.
6. I have never observed a phenomenon in which the existence of a god was a necessary antecedent for the known or probable explanation for the causation of that phenomenon.
7. Several proposed (and generally accepted) explanations for observable phenomena that were previously based on the agency of a god(s), have subsequently been replaced with rational, natural explanations, each substantiated with evidence that excluded the agency of a god(s). I have never encountered _vice versa._
8. I have never experienced the presence of a god through intercession of angels, divine revelation, the miraculous act of divinity, or any occurrence of a supernatural event.
9. Every phenomenon that I have ever observed has *_emerged_* from necessary and sufficient antecedents over time without exception. In other words, I have never observed a phenomenon (entity, process, object, event, process, substance, system, or being) that was created _ex nihilo_ - that is instantaneously came into existence by the solitary volition of a deity.
10. All claims of a supernatural or divine nature that I have encountered have either been refuted to my satisfaction, or do not present as falsifiable.
ALL of these facts lead me to the only rational conclusion that concurs with the realities I have been presented - and that is the fact that there is *_no good reason_* for me to acknowledge the existence of a god.
I have heard often that atheism is the denial of the Abrahamic god. But denial is the active rejection of a substantiated fact once credible evidence has been presented. Atheism is simply withholding such acknowledgement until sufficient credible evidence is introduced. *_It is natural, rational, and prudent to be skeptical of unsubstatiated claims, especially extraordinary ones._*
I welcome any cordial response. Peace.
Did you wrote this post by hitting keyboard randomly?
@@shiningstarsinthedarknight733 Did you conjure up your idiotic question with any forethought or point in mind?
@@theoskeptomai2535 i wrote this comment without any reason.
Suboor is good but he’s like a 1 trick pony always same subject .. but ovs he’s good at it
so he thought he knows science..
Guy on the fence, it doesn't matter if your spitting gold. Have so.e self respect. You want ppl to look under ur skirt or what?
Suboor is more of an "atheist" with his awesome understanding of science than this atheist wannabe.
Saying that Atheism is a religion is like saying that a frisbee is a breakfast cereal. Both are equally stupid statements :) I've ALWAYS laughed at this argument, for two reasons. First.....the religious insult themselves by making a claim that Atheism is just as dumb a "belief system" as their own. Second, it's impossible to have a religion that rejects the concept of faith in favor of skepticism, while having NO headquarters, NO religious leaders, NO ideology, and NO social, political or economic goals. It is the rejection of a claim based on lack of credible, demonstrable evidence. It literally starts and stops there. Every time the religious use this argument, you can bet it's based on desperation, spine-tingling fear, and silliness. You've got them on the ropes. Just press your attack.
That guy doesn't know about evolution or science ....such a blunder...
Science leads to truth yes
the long black dressed man is a disturbance ...why he stand there on fencing.. its unsocial behavior... i think he want some attention..
Haha, it’s humorous what triggers you
Bro suboor in untouchable on darwin subject ! This is not a debat , is a professor with his student speaking in the park....
Suboor is such a dishonest narcissist, he constantly attempts to build a straw man argument to prove a point his opponent is not making. Still waiting for how the winged horse thing works without the suspension of physics.
Allah is the only god and the quran are the words of allah...athiesm is simply arrogance and ignorance and the denial.of believing the truth. Science is based on theory ..which is always open to criticism. I know this as i got DD in my gcse science 😀
Déjà vu 😄
So whats the moral of the story?
Moral of said story is "never ever run with scissors"
I wonder what thid debate is trying to achieve
JESUS CANT TO BE LORD CAUSE GOD IS A LORD AND IF JESUS IS GOD SO GOD IS HUMAN BUT THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE CAUSE GOD IS A LORD AND JESUS ARE NOT AND NOONE CANT TO BE A GOD
JESUS ARE NOT MARYS REAL SON, JESUS IS ADOPTED OR VISITOR, READ
These two men do not understand each other. "Huh?" " you said this",... Huh?"
Really, we must be watching different videos.
ATEISM IS ACTUALLY RELIGION CAUSE YOU MUST BELIEVE
Believe what?
@@darcymr353 ATHEISM IS RELIGION CAUSE YOU BELIEVE NOT GOD
@@ninnikauralaskaite4877 no, you believe in a god, I'm just not convinced.
@@darcymr353 IF YOU NOT BELIEVE GOD YOURE ATHEISM AND THIS IS RELIGION CAUSE YOU BELIEVE
@@ninnikauralaskaite4877 to believe is to know nothing. I know I don't know if a god exists because there is no evidence either way. Why therefore would I believe something without evidence? I do not believe. I make no claim about a deity. I'm indifferent.
Is atheism a religion? Nope. No more than rejection of ghosts is a religion. But here's another key difference: I can go on for hours naming hypothetical discoveries or occurrences that would cause me, a staunch atheist, to admit that theism is the rational choice. If some theist prays to his god(s) for the power to walk on water; to float through the air; to move objects telekinetically; to see just fine through a blindfold; to correctly name a randomly drawn playing card a mere 20% of the time...then belief justified! I could go on for hours. But invite any theist to do likewise: name some hypothetical discoveries or occurrences that would cause them to admit that atheism is the rational choice and what will you hear? Crickets. Bias exposed!
What's your stance on Kant's Cosmological Argument and Plato's "Supreme Principal"
How can you objectively justify your morality on an atheistic worldview?
@@loftilhan4868 This is like asking you, "how can you subjectively justify your morality with a religious worldview?"
It goes like this:
1. There is no evidence of anything being created supernaturally. All the evidence we have is natural evidence.
2. Since there is no evidence of supernatural, it's ridiculous to think anything can come from supernatural. We don't know, we would have to test this supernatural first.
3. So when it comes to morals, we can believe they are subjective..........because we have no evidence of this "objective source" or "supernatural source".
4. Therefore we have no reason to objectively justify morals...........since we believe they are subjective.
But this is way off topic from the original post, which you didn't refute at all. I wonder why? Because you know you can't?
If atheism is a religion, then so is your lack of belief in Bigfoot and unicorns...........therefore atheism cannot be a religion. Religion is a set of beliefs, whereas atheism is the lack of belief.
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@@scottholder4431 Okay so you believe in subjective morality? Then hitler was completely morally sound. You can’t say otherwise because that’s my opinion and it’s worth as much as yours.
I have 1 queation to Suboor..Can Allah live by himself?
Muslim just only have brave to make talk in non muslim countries. Try talk in muslim countries than you know what will happen to you.
@@x-men6177 Why? you cant amswer the question? or the pagan Quran has no clue how to answer if Allah can live by himself?
@@euclideureka1142 Why believe in God but corruption everywhere?
@@x-men6177 CAN ALLAH LIVE BY HIMSELF?
@@euclideureka1142 CAN Muslim LIVE WITHOUT CORRUPTION ?
I notice my questions are deleted on here, and there's only one reason for that ! Very fake..
If they are deleting then its wrong. Tell me whats your question perhaps i can help you, if Allah Almighty wills.
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Let's start with the obvious, how can you determine if allah wills you to reply to me or not ? Prove to me that your reply has been willed or not willed ?
@@paul512bmi If i choose to do something then this is it. I can only try. But Allah Almighty will give the result. If He wills, he would nake me succeed in what i want or not.
@@shiningstarsinthedarknight733
Again, how do you provide evidence of this ? All you're doing is making a claim, so provide evidence that if you answer a question its because allah willed you to ? I'll need empirical evidence BTW, not just another "claim"
@@paul512bmi a person done so much effort to achieve his goals, he has made plans and executed his plans accordingly. He has kept all the things in mind that may prevent him from achieving his goals.
And there is second person who wants something but he hasnt done anything to achieve it.
The first person is unable to achieve his goals, even after so much struggling and after so much dedication. And second person gets what he wanted even if he hasnt done anything. So what is it?
Its the will of Allah Almighty!!!