I want my 6 minutes back. Taking 6 minutes to say Siels Aura is P2W which is not true XD. Siels Aura is nothing more than a Subscription to lift restrictions, which aren't even listed yet. You go from the assumption that it will be the same as NA or KR. While the restrictions could be set different. Given we eventually won't get 2hrs of Siels Aura daily free of charge they could be subject to change. Positive side effect bots get nerfed a lot day 1 and are much less lucrative. And while you need the Aura in leveling progress/gearing time. U can easily play a month in endgame PVP/PVE and not needing it at all if rewards for it aren't the main focus for doing it.
yes thats what he said but the full sentence ended with "if you have to pay to get better gear thats p2w" Which in short as he said means : Aura = P2W which is bs.
Siels Aura is equal to the WoW Sub. Only thing different in Aion u can still access the game and do some stuff. While in WoW you are locked out after hitting lvl 20(added after getting reminded thats a thing) until you pay again.
@@daruniasjoy Well, if we have to be precise, you can play wow for free up to lvl 20 and do everything except AH, mail, guild, and it has a gold limit.
Funfact, the release is delayed to the 25. of April... One week before that new WoW patch gets released... Thats one way to kill the game right from the start xD
What is Siel's Aura? I haven't played Aion for several years. Back then there was a system called Gold Pack. So whats the difference between Gold Pack and Siel's Aura (if there is any)? The Gold Pack System was ok in my opinion. Mostly i paid for it with in-game money back then.. .
Hey, thanks for your comment! Well I figure it out myself too and havnt heared from the gold pack. Guess I gonna make a separate Video to siels aura/energy. But maybe it is the same. We gonna find out! =)
siels arua is basically aion the game. its always been a pay to play game like wow or other titles. now the added a version where u can play free but have hard restrictions if u play more that 1-2 hours a day . if u want the full game u have to sub to siels aura just like u have to sub to wow in order to play. after that ther is no p2w so hes just talking bullshit
Are you looking for feedback on your video making? First, I saw people on the Discord bashing you for the way you are talking through the video. What I have to say is actually, thank you for speaking slower and attempting to enunciate your words. You do have a rather thick accent when speaking English, which I think it normal with it not being your first language. Speaking slowly makes it easier to understand. That being said...I feel like the reason the video felt like it dragged on is that it feels like it took you forever just to make your actual point. We as viewers had to watch 2/3 of a video before you even started talking about what you really wanted to talk about. As far as the aura goes? Due to the statements they have made, I have no reason at the current time to trust that Gameforge won't hold true to what they've said so far. We might very well end up with a game that requires a subscription (just as the original game was when it launched) and doesn't have any free 1-2 hour Siel's Aura like NA did. It's unfair to base any dislike you might have for EU on how NA has handled things, especially when we don't know details about how EU will handle things yet. If we do not have free Siel's Aura, while there will still be bots that will pay for it, I do believe it will cut down on the massive number of bots that we saw especially on NA Classic release. And yes, I understand that your title is clickbait. That being said, pay to play does not equal pay to win. F2P MMOs are plagued with bots and a subscription fee is just one way to cut down on that number. A company has to monetize a game somehow, so if they are going the F2P route that often means P2W items in the shop...I would personally much rather have to pay the subscription fee.
Holy sheeet, ty for such a big comment xD I figure things out slowly and if I dont say the right stuff, then it shall be okay. Perhaps I present correct ones in next content. I must not care about bashers. There will be always people who feel touched. Yea I gonna read feedback =). But mostly it's angry text. I take it to have an impact on next videos! Clickbait or not, being a bit controversal isn't killing anyone. Newspaper, Websites do the same.
@@Ad-op7mi wtf are you talking about? you only can buy mediocre mounts and pets in the wow store, and ofc char boost to 70 which would take u like 8 hours max. The best stuff is only farmed ingame. WoW is the most fair system, i rather pay sub and box price every 2 year than paying for power and every little convenience item in games like aion or lost ark. FF14 has the same system and its way better than all these trash f2p like aion have. Thats why aion is dead and wow/ff14 has millions of players.
What I don't accept and will not do, is pay a monthly sub, only to get steamrolled in pvp by someone who paid more besides his monthly sub. I can accept a f2p game with p2w, but not a subscription game with p2w. That's already too much. I am a wow-veteran, playing since 2009. When I tried Aion in 2012 only because my frend insisted to install and make a char for lols, I then quit wow for 3 years and switched to Aion. To me it was better in many aspects, most of all the music and atmosphere. Bewildering. I even had dreams about it. But now I will play only if GF are not so arrogant and greedy as on NA and Korean versions.
I pay monthly WoW too. When a first subscription gives me a nice feeling for a month then I stop wow a bit and do pay monthly for aion. But honestly I think they should offer it without any costs, create new cosmetics and offer this.
@@bluewice6035 Sadly once they made both sub and p2w in Korea Classic Aion, NA wouldn't want to be left behind in aiming to milk as much money as they can, and then GF wouldn't want to either, I guess.
Dont see a problem to donate even 10 eur, to support content makers and my favourite game + make game more simple and faster in leveling, so you dont need to waste months to get lvl 50. I think a lot of aion veterans will come back who have full time job and cant sit multiple hours online, but want to enjoy the game. A lot of games nowdays support monetization,
F thath shit yes sad.......... fealings all thath time strugle in 8 years man this game could be the king of mmos but money talks............ lets hope they learn defenetly i will dig my self in because at tha fall no other mmo can give me like aion bdo ff etc...
Well first whe speack about gameforce ho is the most trash company game.P2w all the game 😂 in 5 mouth I will se flash action in clasic and ppl start cry
Aion classic should be one time pay or free or i dont know not 10Euros per month its a lot to ask from vetern players! what they are doing is, they are trying to LURE old players to the game and make some money. simple as that. I used to play Aion a lot i know the maps i know the quests why to pay and play the same game again? WAKE UP PEOPLE THEY WANT OUR MONEY and they do it in a sneaky way by saying "Aion Classic"
What's wrong about wanting to make money? Blizzard did the same with WoW Classic and ppl were super happy they even released it. I waited over 2 years for Aion Classic EU. Take my money and give me something I know is worth playing. NCSoft is even developing new content after 2.7 and all of that obviously needs to be paid for.
@@Elrimo90 You just said your self just now :) "Take my money and give me something I know is worth playing." BUT its not worth it because it wont be the same how it used to be. wow was never free you alsways had to pay and ppl knew it. They play with peoples feelings and nostalgia with this game. why at the current Aion you can buy gold packs but NOT at the classic? because they know this is the way to make money now. anyway one way or an other they want your money and they do it in a realy sneaky way.
@@Deruvil Aion was sub based when it launched aswell. Both NCSoft and Gameforge deserve their share for developing from 2.7 / publishing. You talk about things you have no knowledge of sadly.
I want my 6 minutes back. Taking 6 minutes to say Siels Aura is P2W which is not true XD. Siels Aura is nothing more than a Subscription to lift restrictions, which aren't even listed yet. You go from the assumption that it will be the same as NA or KR. While the restrictions could be set different. Given we eventually won't get 2hrs of Siels Aura daily free of charge they could be subject to change. Positive side effect bots get nerfed a lot day 1 and are much less lucrative. And while you need the Aura in leveling progress/gearing time. U can easily play a month in endgame PVP/PVE and not needing it at all if rewards for it aren't the main focus for doing it.
He says "siel's aura is pay to play", and "perhaps it's a pay to win game."
yes thats what he said but the full sentence ended with "if you have to pay to get better gear thats p2w" Which in short as he said means : Aura = P2W which is bs.
Siels Aura is equal to the WoW Sub. Only thing different in Aion u can still access the game and do some stuff. While in WoW you are locked out after hitting lvl 20(added after getting reminded thats a thing) until you pay again.
@@daruniasjoy to me what he said is perfectly clear, aura is not p2w, but the game might be.
@@daruniasjoy Well, if we have to be precise, you can play wow for free up to lvl 20 and do everything except AH, mail, guild, and it has a gold limit.
Funfact, the release is delayed to the 25. of April... One week before that new WoW patch gets released... Thats one way to kill the game right from the start xD
oh no, really? xD damn
What is Siel's Aura? I haven't played Aion for several years. Back then there was a system called Gold Pack. So whats the difference between Gold Pack and Siel's Aura (if there is any)? The Gold Pack System was ok in my opinion. Mostly i paid for it with in-game money back then.. .
Hey, thanks for your comment! Well I figure it out myself too and havnt heared from the gold pack. Guess I gonna make a separate Video to siels aura/energy. But maybe it is the same. We gonna find out! =)
siels arua is basically aion the game. its always been a pay to play game like wow or other titles. now the added a version where u can play free but have hard restrictions if u play more that 1-2 hours a day . if u want the full game u have to sub to siels aura just like u have to sub to wow in order to play. after that ther is no p2w so hes just talking bullshit
I don't know what this Ey-en game you're talking about
opinion starts 3:00
I did alot with Siels aura montly. And dont want to be it the same like before. Retail version is goin down and alot for long time.
Are you looking for feedback on your video making?
First, I saw people on the Discord bashing you for the way you are talking through the video. What I have to say is actually, thank you for speaking slower and attempting to enunciate your words. You do have a rather thick accent when speaking English, which I think it normal with it not being your first language. Speaking slowly makes it easier to understand. That being said...I feel like the reason the video felt like it dragged on is that it feels like it took you forever just to make your actual point. We as viewers had to watch 2/3 of a video before you even started talking about what you really wanted to talk about.
As far as the aura goes? Due to the statements they have made, I have no reason at the current time to trust that Gameforge won't hold true to what they've said so far. We might very well end up with a game that requires a subscription (just as the original game was when it launched) and doesn't have any free 1-2 hour Siel's Aura like NA did. It's unfair to base any dislike you might have for EU on how NA has handled things, especially when we don't know details about how EU will handle things yet. If we do not have free Siel's Aura, while there will still be bots that will pay for it, I do believe it will cut down on the massive number of bots that we saw especially on NA Classic release.
And yes, I understand that your title is clickbait. That being said, pay to play does not equal pay to win. F2P MMOs are plagued with bots and a subscription fee is just one way to cut down on that number. A company has to monetize a game somehow, so if they are going the F2P route that often means P2W items in the shop...I would personally much rather have to pay the subscription fee.
Holy sheeet, ty for such a big comment xD I figure things out slowly and if I dont say the right stuff, then it shall be okay. Perhaps I present correct ones in next content. I must not care about bashers. There will be always people who feel touched. Yea I gonna read feedback =). But mostly it's angry text. I take it to have an impact on next videos!
Clickbait or not, being a bit controversal isn't killing anyone. Newspaper, Websites do the same.
I would totally play this if it was a buy to play, or free with cosmetic cash shop... but a sub? nah .... instant turn off. greedy.
Thanks for the comment. I totally can feel you after. I gonna try it and hope it feels worth it =)
u do know that the original was pay to play woth a sub too right ?
wow is totally greedy too right? u have to pay for a game ???? wow so greedy
@@aerobladee and yes wow is the absolute worst, box price, sub AND cash shop with massively over priced items and services.
@@Ad-op7mi wtf are you talking about? you only can buy mediocre mounts and pets in the wow store, and ofc char boost to 70 which would take u like 8 hours max. The best stuff is only farmed ingame. WoW is the most fair system, i rather pay sub and box price every 2 year than paying for power and every little convenience item in games like aion or lost ark. FF14 has the same system and its way better than all these trash f2p like aion have. Thats why aion is dead and wow/ff14 has millions of players.
Kinda sad i still have my Veteran account and another one with 24 gold packs used and now i have to pay again😂
Holy! I guess I have something the same. but not that much xD
And thanks for the comment!
What I don't accept and will not do, is pay a monthly sub, only to get steamrolled in pvp by someone who paid more besides his monthly sub. I can accept a f2p game with p2w, but not a subscription game with p2w. That's already too much.
I am a wow-veteran, playing since 2009. When I tried Aion in 2012 only because my frend insisted to install and make a char for lols, I then quit wow for 3 years and switched to Aion. To me it was better in many aspects, most of all the music and atmosphere. Bewildering. I even had dreams about it. But now I will play only if GF are not so arrogant and greedy as on NA and Korean versions.
Thank you for ur big comment!
@@bluewice6035 I appreciate you made this video :)
I pay monthly WoW too. When a first subscription gives me a nice feeling for a month then I stop wow a bit and do pay monthly for aion. But honestly I think they should offer it without any costs, create new cosmetics and offer this.
What is GF? Generally people are humans xD and dont change just because they are in europe :D
@@bluewice6035 Sadly once they made both sub and p2w in Korea Classic Aion, NA wouldn't want to be left behind in aiming to milk as much money as they can, and then GF wouldn't want to either, I guess.
Dont see a problem to donate even 10 eur, to support content makers and my favourite game + make game more simple and faster in leveling, so you dont need to waste months to get lvl 50. I think a lot of aion veterans will come back who have full time job and cant sit multiple hours online, but want to enjoy the game. A lot of games nowdays support monetization,
a true trashtalker talking about a game he has no idea of. doesnt even know the publisher, says theres p2w while there is none. what a bot
you should see how greedy ncsoft is with aion classic NA. They already killed that game, no1 playing there lol
Game was p2w in NA and will be as well in EU. Get your few months of fun before the game is dead.
I think they have learned from it
they should follow the aion NA siel aura exp 200% not 100%. lastly, they don't have siel aura 90days only 30days only
F thath shit yes sad.......... fealings all thath time strugle in 8 years man this game could be the king of mmos but money talks............ lets hope they learn defenetly i will dig my self in because at tha fall no other mmo can give me like aion bdo ff etc...
I feel totally the same :D I give classic eu a chance, a big one xD
Well first whe speack about gameforce ho is the most trash company game.P2w all the game 😂 in 5 mouth I will se flash action in clasic and ppl start cry
hey thanks for the comment! Yea it's dangerous to trust again, but I try it out. =)
ok, no body ask
What a coincidence, thats exactly the same people who asked for your comment on his video, the world is so small
@@DunkelBisBunt XDDDDDDDD
WoW is p2w you can just buy 100k gold on Classic and win all GDKP's and it dnst cost that much either. and Blizzard dont care.
Aion classic is p2w and p2p
p2p yes, but sure p2w? I cant hear that currently from the game. Thanks for the comment! Cheers, Bluewice.
you do know that aion back in the day was a sub based game like wow ? now u can try a free trail and u cry about how a sub is bad wtf mate
Aion classic should be one time pay or free or i dont know not 10Euros per month its a lot to ask from vetern players! what they are doing is, they are trying to LURE old players to the game and make some money. simple as that. I used to play Aion a lot i know the maps i know the quests why to pay and play the same game again? WAKE UP PEOPLE THEY WANT OUR MONEY and they do it in a sneaky way by saying "Aion Classic"
Hey, Thanks for ur big comment. I agree to you and cant believe that they want money for it.
What's wrong about wanting to make money? Blizzard did the same with WoW Classic and ppl were super happy they even released it. I waited over 2 years for Aion Classic EU. Take my money and give me something I know is worth playing. NCSoft is even developing new content after 2.7 and all of that obviously needs to be paid for.
@@Elrimo90 Thanks for the comment. If it feels amazing then yea I agree to you =)
@@Elrimo90 You just said your self just now :) "Take my money and give me something I know is worth playing." BUT its not worth it because it wont be the same how it used to be. wow was never free you alsways had to pay and ppl knew it. They play with peoples feelings and nostalgia with this game. why at the current Aion you can buy gold packs but NOT at the classic? because they know this is the way to make money now. anyway one way or an other they want your money and they do it in a realy sneaky way.
@@Deruvil Aion was sub based when it launched aswell. Both NCSoft and Gameforge deserve their share for developing from 2.7 / publishing. You talk about things you have no knowledge of sadly.