NBC Journalist Asks Pastor TOUGH Questions (Brilliant Response!)
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- This video features a portion of a conversation between Tim Keller and NBC journalist Martin Bashir. The topic of conversation is belief in God. One question raised, among many, is whether belief is a matter of reason or purely a matter of faith. They also get into whether or not one's motivation to believe in God impacts belief as well as discussing a few topics surrounding religious pluralism. Enjoy!
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Thank you, sir, for sharing top flight people and their words. I have shared some of your videos with believers of weak faith and they have been strengthened. Shalom
What about the Shroud of Turin.
Nobody ever points to what scientists have proven about the most studied artifact on planet Earth!!!
Love your channel! I watch every video. Audio is off on this one, just a heads up. I’m a video editor couldn’t help but notice lol. See you in the next one.
Set looks awesome though!
“A prerequisite to belief in God is the willingness to dethrone ourselves”. I could not have said that any better! Thanks.
It's remarkable how keller thought these things out. He is always few steps ahrad, yet humble and cordial.
Keller was wrong with this> God wants all men to be saved first Timothy 2:4, second peter 3:9!
God, predestines groups or plurals only, never individuals. Ephesians 1 -2 points: “ us and we” are pre-destined never “you and I“! And 11 times in 11 verses from 3-14 you have to remain “in Christ“ (in him, in whom) to be predestined!
Romans 9:1-3 Paul is talking about the nation of Israel, all the way to the end of chapter 11 ! So, “Jacob, I loved, Esau I hated“ is genesis 25:23 “there are two nations in your womb“! It’s talking about ‘Nations,’ not individuals in the whole context of those three chapters! Stop taking it out of context, along with Ephesians 1!
Of course, we have the story of Jacob and Esau and how Esau despised his birthright !
So God truly does love all people, he truly did make hell for the devil and his angels just as Matthew 25:41 says !
Even the 42 youths, mauled by the 2 bears, was because they mocked Elijah‘s rapture, a.k.a. the resurrection , they were saying “go on up Baldy “ ; and ALL their prophets just recently Were killed by Elijah and they should’ve known to stop worshiping Baal! Bethel was the headquarters of Baal worship, where this took place! 490 priests got killed by Elijah, There was no Priests around,; should’ve been a gigantic clue.
So God never arbitrarily and haphazardly deals with any human being ! His love cannot be measured says Romans 8!
But if you’re a Calvinist, it’s “his love cannot be measured , (Wink, wink)“!
Come out of the false belief system of Calvinism ! Now you have no excuse because you cannot out argue this, let’s hear you try!
Read Matthew 25 the parable of the Calvinists, a.k.a. talents ! Where the guy buried his talent calling God,- somebody who doesn’t judge rightly & he was thrown into hell as a result! He had the wrong view of God, & So Will a Calvinist, they’ll have a callous view of God & The love of Christs sacrificial death on the cross!
Oren, Isn't it though? Have you read his book The Reason for God? I found it to be enlightening. He is so calm.
So your argument, just so I'm clear, is that predestination IS or ISN'T Biblically accurate? I'm not a Calvinist but I've read your comment and just wanted to give you a chance to clarify your point. In the beginning of your comment you seem to say predestination is a thing in the group sense but at the end you say Calvinists are false (which they generally adhere to a heavy view of individual predestination). God Bless! Much Love
@@jjphank But if you’re a Calvinist, it’s “his love cannot be measured , (Wink, wink)“!
I lost it after that sentence lol
@@WaterspoutsOfTheDeep you lost it a long time ago if you’re a Calvinist, there’s free will everywhere unless you live in the suburbs, is that you? Ask any Third World person if there’s not free will and then hold your wallet in your hand?
Ask homosexuals delivered out of that lifestyle if they believe free will was involved or did God make them homosexual? Because many will die in that lifestyle & End up in hell!
Answer this please
This is a fascinating conversation, and great comments on the back end! Such a wonderful tribute to Tim Keller! Thanks for sharing.
Thank you, brother!
God wants all men to be saved first Timothy 2:4, second peter 3:9!
God, predestines groups or plurals only, never individuals. Ephesians 1 -2 points: “ us and we” are pre-destined never “you and I“! And 11 times in 11 verses from 3-14 you have to remain “in Christ“ (in him, in whom) to be predestined!
Romans 9:1-3 Paul is talking about the nation of Israel, all the way to the end of chapter 11 ! So, “Jacob, I loved, Esau I hated“ is genesis 25:23 “there are two nations in your womb“! It’s talking about ‘Nations,’ not individuals in the whole context of those three chapters! Stop taking it out of context, along with Ephesians 1!
Of course, we have the story of Jacob and Esau and how Esau despised his birthright !
So God truly does love all people, he truly did make hell for the devil and his angels just as Matthew 25:41 says !
Even the 42 youths, mauled by the 2 bears, was because they mocked Elijah‘s rapture, a.k.a. the resurrection , they were saying “go on up Baldy “ ; and ALL their prophets just recently Were killed by Elijah and they should’ve known to stop worshiping Baal! Bethel was the headquarters of Baal worship, where this took place! 490 priests got killed by Elijah, There was no Priests around,; should’ve been a gigantic clue.
So God never arbitrarily and haphazardly deals with any human being ! His love cannot be measured says Romans 8!
But if you’re a Calvinist, it’s “his love cannot be measured , (Wink, wink)“!
Come out of the false belief system of Calvinism ! Now you have no excuse because you cannot out argue this, let’s hear you try!
Read Matthew 25 the parable of the Calvinists, a.k.a. talents ! Where the guy buried his talent calling God,- somebody who doesn’t judge rightly & he was thrown into hell as a result! He had the wrong view of God, & So Will a Calvinist, they’ll have a callous view of God & The love of Christs sacrificial death on the cross!
fascinating? Come on Brother.
Love that statement- “dethrone self” to believe - to know our limitations
I just found this channel about 1 week ago and ive been binge watching it, I decided I had, had enough of trying to go it alone in this world so I turned to the good book to seek answers and knowledge. I have not even made it past Deuteronomy 10 yet and I feel I have answered so many questions already. I shall continue my walk towards the Lord but I really love these nuggets of information that helps me understand.
"to seek answers" Do you really think that an appeal to some ill defined entity which is not subject to the known laws of physics, that supposingly interacts with the fabric of our reality in ways that have thus far eluded every controlled experiment ever performed in the history of science...is going to provide you with any meaningful answers.
"I shall continue my walk towards the Lord" this looks like a verse in Deuteronomy 😀. Evidence that you're reading it, I guess 😊
Well done and good luck, the modern mindset is that you are on your own, slightly ridiculous really when there is a few thousand years of wisdom to draw on and a greater reality than me the individual.
I’ll be praying for you on this journey 🙏
Congrats, I've recently started my journey as well. I pray that we are both humbled by the grace of God. ❤
There are certain things that cannot be justified or "proven" by science, but we are all rational to believe. In that sense, everyone to one degree or another, requires "faith".
That's still no reason to look for a supernatural explanation
@@repelsteeltje310 I didn’t say it was.
@joshua2707 then why would it be rational to have faith in the supernatural?
Matter and energy cannot be created nor destroyed, therefore no matter nor energy would’ve existed to do the causing. Consequently, whatever did cause the universe to exist, would need to be immaterial and exist beyond time and space! Genesis 1: 1 God creates time space and matter!
The KILLER is, Entropy! Entropy is somewhat opposite of evolution and why did this come into the universe if everything’s getting better? Genesis 2:17 says death came into the universe through the first sin!
First two chapters of the Bible not the 500th chapter or the thousandth chapter; explain what evolutionists have not explained; and no other worldview comes close to the Bible, in explaining it! The first two laws of thermodynamics!
So the Bible explains how matter, space, time, entropy, and energy get here!
DNA does not auto encrypt, it did not write itself the code writer is outside of the code. 3300 billion lines of computer code in 1 humans DNA, would fill the Grand Canyon 50 times of Books, let alone plant and animal DNA and it did not write itself! One person‘s DNA could stretch to the sun and back 61 times! Psalm 139:16 “in my members you have written many books“.
John 21:25 “I suppose everything Jesus did the world will not have enough room for the Books, telling of it“!
God made matter and energy, a.k.a., the first law of thermodynamics and DNA, pointing to himself; pointing to an outside source beyond the realm of the universe; that these things were made there!
Job 38:35 “were you there when I created the lightnings and they say ‘here we are!”’ This is God talking to Job!
3300 years later, James Maxwell discovers that light rays and electricity are two forms of the same thing!
The Bible Predicted telecommunications
@@repelsteeltje310we are made in the image and likeness of God that’s why it’s rational to believe.
Creation itself speaks of a creator. It’s more reasonable to believe that something outside of space, time, and matter (God) created the universe (big bang) than to believe the universe derived from nothing.
Also, higher concepts such as mathematics, science, and morality point towards creation as opposed to chance.
The Bible says that in the beginning God created the universe and made man in His image and likeness. God is the alpha and omega (first and last), beginning and the end.
Ultimately though, it’s a moral and authority issue. Jesus is the word of God became became flesh. He gave us the blueprint. Once we accept God’s ways and reject our own, is when life truly begins.
Peace to you.
God is not a figment of my imagination nor a social construct designed to affirm my life style. He is very real, very present, and very active in my life. His love has surprised me, challenged me, and changed me, sometimes in ways that I didn't want to be changed. I'm constantly amazed by His patience, His gentleness, and His cleverness, in weaving His plan into my life. There's no way He's just concept of man's wishful thinking. If he was then I would still be stuck in the sinful lifestyle that I once enjoyed, with no hope of escape or improvement.
God is a social construct projected out into the world.
I envy you. Maybe that deadly sin itself is why I can’t sense God in my life. I want to. Maybe not enough.
@@kos-mos1127 there is historical documentation beyond the bible that Jesus Christ existed and died on a cross. That is not a projection. Those who met and followed Jesus believed enough in his resurrection they too were killed for their testimony. Additionally, the wisdom from these believers in the new testament and advice on how to live a healthy life seems to based in love. These understandings plus the impact in my own life is how I know there is a God and that Jesus willing sacrificed his sinless life so that we all have an opportunity for atonement. Its not projection, its salvation.
@@blakemcclaren There is no historical documentation of Jesus beyond the bible. People die for what they believe in so that does not prove the resurrection of Jesus.
@@kos-mos1127 Quote: _"There is no historical documentation of Jesus beyond the bible."_
We can challenge the witnesses of the past but the Bible also makes predictions about the future and I always like to mention one that is close enough for you to witness first hand.
The 2,000 year old book of Revelation says the day is coming when you'll have to have a 'mark' in your right hand or your forehead in order to buy or sell.
In the 70's I thought people would have to be branded like cattle. In my mind I pictured a mob of zombies. The technology wasn't invented yet. Today it's clearer.
When the globalists talk about the 'great reset' it means they plan to collapse the global economy and replace cash with a digital monetary system. A bio metric device or implant will allow you to tap your hand or scan your forehead.
The problem in a digital system is that you will be tracked so you'll have to obey the elites or they'll turn your account off. You've heard about 'smart cities'. Digital tracking is how they'll keep you within a specified radius of where you live.
Believing in the Bible takes a level of honesty that most people are not willing to express.
Honesty on what? Most claims are wrong.
All morals are changed
Writers seem te be unknown.
Based on what?
To believe in the claims of a cobbled-together anthology of disjointed documents full of contradictions and supernatural claims, composed, revised, translated, distorted and 'improved' by hundreds of anonymous authors, editors and copyists, unknown to us and mostly unknown to each other, spanning nine centuries......it takes gullibility, childhood indoctrination, and the ability to practice double standards....but " honesty"...no.
@@repelsteeltje310you clearly haven't read the Bible
@@repelsteeltje310 Most people have secrets. Things that they have done or thought that they do not want anybody to know about. These same people will call themselves “good people”. If those same people were honest, they would know that they are not good people. That’s the kind of honesty it takes to follow what the Bible teaches. Which is an honesty that most people are not willing to express. Admitting that they are not good people and need a savior is something most of the world will not do.
Honesty ...not really
Gullibility...definitely
Found your channel about a month ago and have been enjoying your content. Thanks for the deep and thoughtful videos.
Love the videos you put out plus your thoughts..I enjoy and definitely need such conversations because as a Christian, finding correct footing is important. And surrender, all in all, is one of the hardest things to do. I appreciate Abraham much much more...
I also like listening or watching videos by Alex O'Connor - a TH-camr who's a non-resistant atheist. Very articulate and patient in his discussions. And also Prof. Joshua Maponga who's a former Bishop, since I'm a Kenyan and can't ignore my heritage or culture as I grow in faith
RIP Timothy Keller. I wasn't ready at the time, but I'm more ready to be patient and finally finish Reason For God.
There are thoughts I wasn't ready to think through because I was too busy with everything else in life, but the older I get, the more I realise there are so many thoughts in different fields for arguements for God. I personally never needed them, but as I want to be bolder in witnessing.
Very good video mate, spot on at the end. CS Lewis called himself a reluctant convert initially, believing in God is not a crutch it is a challenge laid down, it comes with a raft of obligations, it’s actually pretty inconvenient to a satisfied modern.
I appreciate your efforts and personal perspective here. Your channel is an excellent source of quality topics and your personal commentary. Truly shining light into the darkess. It has helped me immensely. Thank you!!!
Finding your channel as been a blessing in my life!
When people try to "prove" Christianity wrong or foolish by saying things like "well, you have to have FAITH" as though that's a blind leap in the dark, I always want to ask them "do you drive a car?" or "do you ride a bus?" Because that takes a great deal of faith! I liked this because that was pointed out as being a fallacy. Faith and reason go together or you are treading on dangerous ground.
The other one Tim Keller got right on, but was so gentle about it: essentially, we have to admit that whether we argue against God or for God, we all have skin in the game.
Great video, as ALWAYS. Thank you so much.
I think you missed the point.
@SydneyBell-eh6je What if you're imagining it in your head (solopsism)
@SydneyBell-eh6je That also doesn’t follow as they can just be going along to not hurt your feelings.
@SydneyBell-eh6je Because in either case your still having to rely on something other than your own reason or eyes to verify what reality is. You literally have to have faith which literally just means trust that no one is lying to you.
@@jarlwilliam9932 Driving a car or taking the bus can be experientially verified as in every body can take the bus or drive a car. God cannot be verified by definition.
Another GREAT video. I had this thought a few days ago. Our planet is in the "Goldilocks Zone," not too hot or cold. I don't believe that happened by accident because of the big bang. There is no way that an accidental explosion of matter places our planet in the perfect position for human life to come into existence. That, in my opinion, is enough to prove God is real and is responsible for our glorious existence. I love you, brother, and pray glory and splendor fill the rest of your day. God bless you 🙏🏿✌🏿💙💪🏿
The fact that earth is in the Goldilocks Zone is the reason life evolved here! It wasn't put here for us, that's the puddle in the road thinking the hole it occupies must have been made for it because it fits so perfectly! One more delusion caused by a need to prop up your belief.
@@mirandahotspring4019 you believe in Evolution. I don’t. The rationale for your belief is a construct to erase the Creator God out of our thoughts about existence. I see Darwinism as a Gospel for atheists.
Space is fake and gay. Earth is flat and stable. NASA is an occult organisation.
@@mirandahotspring4019evolution doesn’t disprove the existence of God. God CAN create a world where we evolved from bacteria. Do I believe in evolution? I cannot be sure. It’s a theory that cannot be proven. I can’t show you an observable difference of kinds. I do not see evolution as a feasible explanation of creation. But God is. How he did it, I don’t know. Non-living chemicals cannot create living things. In my chemical career, I’ve yet to see someone grab nitrogen, carbon, and hydrogen and create an amino acid. In regards to the creation of the world, I have to say that God created the world and I have evidence. Unfortunately, a lot of atheists are quick to disregard the evidence and define me as unintelligent and a fanatic. The evidence is all around us! The biological processes and intelligent design of life point to a designer!
At the end of the day, are you a good person? Have you stolen something regardless of it’s value? Have you lied? Have you looked with lust (Jesus says, if anyone has looked with lust, they commit adultery in their heart)? I have done all of these and I am a sinner. if you were to die today, where would you go? I don’t have to worry about this because I believe that Jesus died for my sins. And if you put your trust in him, then you too will be saved! Blessings!
@mirandahotspring4019 that's beyond dumb.
Thank you for sharing this conversation.
I believe the cameraman was operating in faith that he actually knew how to do his job.
😂😂😂
It was his first day after learning the zoom feature.
@@thunderhorse689the awesome zoom effect!
No. The cameraman developed his skills over years.
@@kos-mos1127 the past doesn't exist
I tried being an atheist once when i was a teenager, because I wanted to be open-minded. What I discovered was that there is a door at the back of my mind that I had to keep closed in order to be an atheist. Ayaan Hersi Ali says in her book that she had to keep the same door closed to be a good Muslim. You don't have to keep it closed to be a Lutheran.
I see why so many people aren't believers its fun being able to live in sin without judgment, in that non believers mindset we weren't created with love or dignity we're just accidents evolved from slime then apes.
No such thing as sin things just happen. It would be a good time doing what I want in life without having to be judged for it but we better he glad God does exist because boy would I be a terrible atheist I couldn't care less about the greater good of society as a non believer🤷♂️
@@shydalelewis3966 If you are unable to function as a being with moral agency in a human society without religious faith, that actually is self-commentary on your own self-control, empathy, and awareness of the impact of your choices, not a criticism of those without religious belief.
@@profpurgeI think I understand what ya mean🤔 specify if possible, I definitely understand how they think I put myself in their shoes within the beliefs and thinking process is. It's really something else I've gotta say just don't think I could live it out.
You don't choose to be an atheist. You don't choose to believe in a god. I'm naturally an agnostic atheist, it's not like I wake up one morning and decide to start believing in god(s). Doesn't work that way. You either naturally believe or you naturally don't believe.
@@tetsuyohasakirashishiwakam2218 I hope your kidding😬 sorry maybe thats how life if for you but speak for yourself.
I was born in a Christian household that doesn't mean I was naturally made to be Christian if that's how your explaining your opinion in that context if im getting my understanding wrong plz do correct me I wanna understand this point of view.
We can choose to be something else I could become a Buddhist today if I wanted, just look at how big majority of X-Christians especially today many former Christians are going to atheism or some other religion...so seriously if you saying whatever we were born as thats what we where meant to be and thats how it is naturally then good gracious im sorry for whoever lied to you with all love/respect even if you came up with that yourself you gotta understand your wrong and that's not a bad thing you have the Chance to be correct which is what everyone should strive for.
Great presentation. God bless you, brother.
I always submit to being Humble... Great Humility... "More of Christ and less of myself"...
It's very humble of you to tell us you are humble.
Praise God for the life of Timothy Keller.
Glad I stumbled on to your channel! Great content!❤
It's so incredible how easily the mind can fall into the trap of distrusting all but its own self.
Bashir is so blinded by his own views, especially in seeing that his are the correct ones (obviously), that he cannot even grasp what he is being told.
The fact that we are all susceptible to such blindness is why the truth of God is such an important and freeing one.
May those with eyes see, and may those with ears hear.
God bless 🙏
Jesus said , Man shall not live by bread alone but by every word out of God’s mouth, you need to know the Bible, that will get you there!
I am pretty sure that Martin Bashir is a Christian. And he was just doing his job
@@jjphank I do not care what Jesus said. I care what he said was useful and so far Jesus has not said anything that is useful.
@@kos-mos1127Not useful for you. Useful and life-changing for millions of others, moreso his actions and not merely what He said.
@@kos-mos1127 useful enough to take away your sins, so you don’t burn in hell for eternity and thousands of prisoners locked up say they’re freer inside prison than they were in the outside cuz once they become born again, like you and everybody needs to do: ask Jesus to be your personal savior to forgive you of your sins, and to lead your life ! AND YOU HAVE NO EXCUSE BECAUSE OF THIS EVIDENCE >>
You cannot out psychologize the Bible for God not to throw you into hell for all eternity. In other words, you cannot come up with a good enough excuse here and now, so you will not be able to on judgment day. If you say you did not want to be born, God is going to say you should’ve been born again, that means become a Christian so that’s not gonna work. And there are no other excuses try to think of one. So now you know for the first time in your life, that the Bible is smarter than you and it is a steel trap, smarter than all of mankind, What should you do then? So at least investigate and look to see that these things are true, because right now you just learned the Bible is smarter than you, and you will be accountable for your life on judgment day before God!
Prophecy, the Bible is 27% prophecy, that’s future history written in advance. God‘s really sticking his neck out to get it cut off if he’s wrong, but he hasn’t been wrong about the thousands of prophecies that were fulfilled, so he’ll be right about the end of the world prophecies as well and you’ll have no excuse on judgment day for not looking for truth!
Caveat: you cannot look for God in times of chaos says Isaiah 45:19, so you better do it now. In other words,You’ll be too worried about your own survival when chaos hits, than your eternal destiny!
Statistic probability of 40 writers writing the Bible with zero margin of deviation, proves God wrote the Bible through the 40 writers!
God authored the Bible!
DNA does not auto encrypt, the code writer is outside of the code of the 3300000,000,000 lines of computer code in the human genome of our DNA! So who wrote the code to such sophistication?
1,000,000 seconds is 12 days, 1,000,000,000 seconds is 32 years! That’s the difference between 1 million and 1 billion!
One person’s DNA could fill the Grand Canyon up to 50 times full of books. John 21:25 “I suppose everything Jesus did, the world wouldn’t have enough room for the books telling of it.“ this verse would be fulfilled!
Psalm 139:16 “in my members you have written many books“!
Psalm 139 is about the human body!
I just want to make it known that Martin Bashir has stated that he IS A Christian.
I believe here he was just doing his job. We shouldn’t be afraid of this line of questioning, but instead have an answer ready.
1 Peter 3:15 - but sanctify Christ as Lord in your hearts, always being ready to make a defense to everyone who asks you to give an account for the hope that is in you, but with gentleness and respect;
It's amazing to me how often the most basic questions come up, that any Christian could answer (with varying levels of eloquence), from those who don't believe. The most brilliant atheists, truly brilliant people, still continually come up with nothing new.
Interesting comment you made about looking inside to see how one is contributing to evil. I saw a TH-cam video about a doctor who performed abortions and who had a revelation about his contribution to evil. His revelation brought him great sorrow and instilled the doctor with the desire to change his medical practices. All because he looked inward.
My one claim to fame. I've met the man. He even delivered one of our children.😊
@@Urbanity_Kludge congratulations on the birth of your baby. Blessings
In a world that does not fear God, it sure searches for wisdom a lot. Strange that words are the form in which we transfer wisdom, and the Bible posits God to be the word. That couldn't be a coincidence. A wise man restrains their speech, and yet we have a society that loves airing their own opinions.
Humility is key. This is something that is not generally stressed in Protestantism or atheism. In Orthodox Christianity humility is the way to healing the soul and finding genuine union with God.
Don't you mean fake humility because that is what Christians are good at.
Thanks for your content, they’re so many things that keep people from accepting Jesus and his gift. Thanks for giving people knowledge and ammo to witness and defend our Faith. The Bible tells us to prepare ourselves for just such things. ❤ And for the unbelievers, keep searching for Truth. He’ll meet you right where you are! Great channel!!
"Dethrone themselves". Powerful point.
A powerful point and as soon as he said it I said to myself exactly right.
@@harrykerr900 He did not make a point. Atheist do not view themselves as the center of the universe to began with that is why we do not believe in God.
@@kos-mos1127 respectfully, I am the type of atheist he was referring to in the video. I have been miserable for many years and recently started searching for purpose/God.
My throne/ego/logic is precisely what is preventing me from being able to receive that relationship he is talking about. I know that as I can feel it in my core. God is calling many of us right now. I've noticed a few friends of mine on Facebook posting about their newfound faith, some atheists. I understand why you don't see the point but I assure you, that comment is exactly what I'm dealing with right now.
@@corythompson9171 I will spell this out atheist do not have an over inflated ego or sense of grand self importance. Sense you are trying to gauge my inner motivations and utterly failing at it. What prevents me from believing in God is I want to know that what I am believing is true. I do not just want to believe in something so I can feel connected to some grand plan. That is the most pointless thing anyone can do. I look at the practicality if it is useful then it is consistent with reality. If it is not useful then it is inconsistent with reality. So far God has been shown to be inconsistent with reality and until extraordinary evidence shows otherwise then God is nothing more then an ancient near eastern myth,
@@kos-mos1127 perhaps I misspoke by saying "powerful point". Maybe I should have commented "powerful statement". It was a statement that resonates with me. So, argue that. May I have the opinion of it being a powerful statement that resonates with me? Is that okay with you?
Typically I've noticed that people who don't believe in God, don't want to believe in God. There's a difference.
That is nonsense. People who do not believe in God have no reason to believe in God. Fixed it for you.
@@kos-mos1127
They 'think' they have no good reason to believe in God but feel concerned that that's not the case for many others. Here fixed it for you
Jeremiah 5:12
[12] They have lied about the Lord, And said, “It is not He. Neither will evil come upon us, Nor shall we see sword or famine.
@@imspiker3645 I know there is no reason to believe in God. God has no value.
@@kos-mos1127
As a former non-believer, I thought I could find happiness on my own terms and make myself complete if I was surrounded with people yet I always was empty inside, lonely and depressed. Without God, your life has no value and when I encountered Him I discovered I was winning everything, physical and mental healings, true love and real freedom because God is alive and I realized freedom to sin isn't freedom at all.
[1] And you He made alive, who were dead in trespasses and sins, [2] in which you once walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience, [3] among whom also we all once conducted ourselves in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, just as the others. [4] But God, who is rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, [5] even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved)
Ephesians 2v1-5
@@kos-mos1127 and yet here you are. So I would contend that there’s something gnawing inside you and even you know you’re lying to yourself.
Nice video and great contribution at the end! I love how the man plainly deflates everything the host says and turns it right back around. Oh, we are being culturally influenced? Isn't the person making that statement also culturally influenced? Oh, you think we have a need to believe in God? Does not an atheist have a need to NOT believe in God? Well spoken. Indeed, an atheist has a FAR stronger need to believe they are right because of the condemnation that awaits them if they are wrong (and they are wrong).
Also, as you stated, Christianity begins with accepting that we are corrupt and that God's ways are higher. It all begins with Jesus tearing down our tower of "self" and exposing our utter lack of righteousness and understanding, so that He can then impart His righteosness and understanding, and build us back up as a spiritual house dedicated to Him. Thank you, sir, and have a blessed day!
Good discussion…
Credibility leads me to believe…
Historical research prove, by both Atheists and Believers that Jesus was a real man….
His interactions after his death is my deciding factor ….
Thanks so much, I'm really enjoying your content and commentary. Keep up the excellent Kingdom work!
Creativity, love, beauty, peace, joy, fulfillment, forgiveness, purpose.. These things have no foundation in science and we could explore every corner of the universe and still ask ourselves where is the proof for them
Creativity is found in the Universe. Love and beauty are judgement values. Joy and fulfillment is a state of mind. Forgiveness and purpose are sociological issues.
They have no fundation outside our own perception. Those area all concepts that have no meaning outside of us but a long as you are human those things are part of yourself even if you are not religious.
@@kos-mos1127 I’m asking, if there is no God, what are these things from a scientific materialistic perspective? The answer would need to be something along the lines of a chemical impulse or physical quality within brain, which I think is inadequate.. and the reason why I left the comment
@@chilldude5456 So they are a quality of the human brain that should be detectable in some way? So they do not exist on a universal scale, they are simply a product of evolution? Why should we be concerned with these things universally like take purpose for example? If there was no objective purpose we should never have evolved to find out. It would be like evolving eyes if there was no sun, no light
@@joemac84 Creativity, love, beauty, peace, joy, fulfillment, forgiveness, purpose are not things. They are concepts created by humans and have no value outside of humans.
Great food for thought here from a smart Christian, especially on the subject of the relativity of belief. Very happy to admit that even as a card-carrying atheist.
Great channel!
Your input towards the end perfected this video!!
It never stops to amaze me when people claim everything except religion can be tested. That tells me that don't actually know anything about the basis of their belief. There are so many assumptions in science that it's mind boggling how it could function if everything had to be tested.
What claim does science make without being tested , measured, observed or any confirmation?
@@repelsteeltje310 Well, a big one that is held as a fact is the claim within evolution of one species evolving into another. There is zero proof behind any of it. There are no transitional fossils. There is no beneficial reason any species would make such a drastic change, especially when you consider the intermediary transitions that would have to occur. For any level of survivability to occur, it would have to be an immediate change of multiple key steps, each requiring the addittion of information, which is another aspect within this theory that hasn't been proven.
Abiogenesis is another major one when considering the origin of life that too many scientists buy into.
@@repelsteeltje310 dark matter, we can't prove it exists but scientists believe it exists.
@anonman8661 Actually, the dark matter claims are from observation, tests, and calculations.
Still no supernatural claim though
Faith in the Christian context is not just 'believing', it is knowing. So it is not blind, but sees. This is what the world doesn't understand.
I was an atheist, when I was younger and didn’t really know much about science or religion, but it seemed like the easiest thing to believe, it also went along great with the counter culture that I hung around with. Basically it was easy and convenient. It doesn’t take much brain power to be an atheist. But I decided to actually go learn as much as I could about the world. Math science psychology philosophy, all the major religions, and eventually became a self proclaimed agnostic/existentialist. I did the deep dive into Christianity last…and it’s by far the hardest. And the hardest part is being honest with yourself. Pride. But when/if you are honest with yourself, the Bible is clearly correct. It’s obvious. Which is why you fight against it so hard to begin with. Because it’s a fight with Truth. Like real actual truth. Not subjective truth. But the miracle happened after I believed. And I didn’t consider it belief, I knew. On December 31st 2019 I met an angel. I saw it with my own eyes. I wasn’t on any kind of medication or drugs or anything like that. And I know that that’s not something that’s going to happen for everyone. You get to see the proof of Gods existence with your own eyes. It’s what everyone wants. But had I not done my due diligence and searched and then believed in the first place, that miracle would not have happened. But I just think it’s funny when these professors claim “there is no way to prove…” There absolutely is. It just hasn’t been proven to you. And that’s your own fault. Anyway, that’s my Ted Talk 😅❤
"I did the deep dive into Christianity"
Then you must know that the bible is not "clearly correct."
The first 5 books of the Bible were written between 600 B.C. and 400 B.C. The earliest Hebrew writing of any kind is from about 1,000 B.C.
Artifacts from ancient societies reveal versions of bible stories that are much older than the Hebrew people and their holy texts. The Sumerian flood story is 1,000 to 1,200 years older than the story of Noah. The Epic of Gilgamesh, which may be as old as 2150 B.C. has a great flood story with a hero named Utnapishtim. A Babylonian cuneiform tablet, found in southern Iraq and dating to the 1600s B.C. describes how the god Enki instructs Atrahasis to build a boat and save himself and all the animals before the god Enlil obliterates the human race. It is 400 years older than the Hebrew people and 1,000 years older than the book of Genesis. It can be found at the British Museum in London.
The story of Moses set adrift in a basket originated in the myth of King Sargon of Agade in 2,800 B.C. Myths far older than the Hebrews concerning man being formed from clay are found in Babylonia, Egypt, Greece, Asia, Africa, and the Pacific islands.
This is just the tip of the iceberg. The bible is not true. it's a hodgepodge of fables, myths, and religious texts from centuries before your bible existed.
In the Persian story, God created the world in six days, a man called Adama, a woman called Evah, and then rested. The Etruscan, Babylonian, Phoenician, Chaldean, and Egyptian stories are much the same. The Persians, Greeks, and Egyptians had their Garden of Eden and the Tree of Life. The Persians, Babylonians, and Nubians, all had the story of the fall of man and the subtle serpent. The Chinese account says that sin came into the world by the disobedience of a woman. Even the scriptures of the Tahitians tell us that man was created from the earth, and the first woman from one of his bones.
All long before your bible existed.
@@bean-spiller you must have not read all of what I said. I experienced a miracle with my own eyes. None of that really matters. Not to me. I understand the overall ideas of what’s in the the Bible. Picking things apart because you don’t want to believe in the first place is kind of a You problem.
I wake up happy every single day, for no reason. Life is awesome and exciting and people tell me all the time how much my presence changes every one around me. What’s your life like?
@@bean-spiller He is no god who merely satisfies the intellect, if He ever does.
God to be God must rule the heart and transform it.
He must express Himself in every smallest act of His votary.
It is proved not by extraneous evidence,
but in the transformed conduct and character of those who have felt the real presence of God within.
To reject this evidence is to deny oneself.
@@silasdeane777
I read every word that you wrote. You brag unconvincingly about having studied math, science, psychology, philosophy, and all the major religions, and then, after a "deep dive" into Christianity, you claim that was by far, the hardest. You obviously didn't delve too deeply into mathematics.
You also didn't bother to study the history of Christianity, or the bible. You're "deep dive" consisted only of reading the bible. What you have is a faith in Christianity, not a knowledge of Christianity.
Thinking that you actually met an angel is kind of a "You problem." At least you had the honesty to admit that "had I not believed in the first place, that miracle would not have happened."
"The light of faith makes us see what we believe."
Saint Thomas Aquinas
Whether God Exists (1270)
Being "honest with yourself" would be to consider all the facts regardless of your faith. Instead you say: "None of that really matters. Not to me," which only proves that it doesn’t take much brain power to be a Christian. Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored by you. Refusing to use the brain that you believe your god gave you should be considered sacrilege. It's no wonder that you're happy when you can so easily deny reality.
We wake up happy every single day, and our life is awesome for many different reasons. Our love for each other, our comfortable retirement in our 50's, our 12 acres of debt free land, our beautiful daughter, our two horses and our three dogs, our fruitful gardens, and our great community of friends who we don't worry about "changing with our presence" because we like them just the way they are.
@@silasdeane777
Serious question. How do know that your god is a "he" and not a "she"?
Thank you for spreading positivity and God's word. We need more content like this ❤
Dr. Tim Keller was a brilliant man of faith who was attacked for hedging around certain questions in a very unfair manner. He wasn’t a hellfire and brimstone preacher. His strength was dialoguing with people who didn’t believe in a city of infidels/skeptics and growing a church of 60,000 weekly attendance at all the Redeemer locations. He is missed. Reason for God was a great work. Shalom
Yes, he was amazing in his ability to dialogue with people and meet them where they were. Brilliant man.
@@melissasw64 that’s what throws a lot of his critics. Using skeptics writings along with whatever he felt was complementary. Love his teaching and his books. Reason For God was a powerful text capable of helping open the eyes of the blind skeptic. Shalom
@@michaelbrickley2443 Reason For God was a load of nonsense.
@@kos-mos1127 maybe to you. Skeptic or critic?
Very insightful!
God is good!
Brilliant spot on comparisons.
If God calls you, then you will know it. If God's spirit enters your heart, then you will definitely know it. The belief turns to knowing for sure without a doubt that God is true and real. Remember God calls the very few and the others will not understand or accept even if you say I believe . You must be born again by the spirit of God to go to heaven. The Devil believes, and the Devil is not going to heaven. You must search God with all your heart and desire and you will find God.
I loved everything you said, except the rote statement about being born again. I see it as confusing to non believers, and sort of a lie, if you compare the way Jesus describes it, and the apostles description of it.
By the apostles, it's metaphorical, spiritualism, as in, a new creature, but the word creature to clarify a mortal creature, thus, converted, changed, enlightenment. By the word of Christ, he had to re explain flesh (us), is flesh, and flesh cannot enter, thus we have to actually be born from flesh to immortal spirit to enter.
So, you can get away with the confusing spiritualism of the term "born again", all you like, but please don't do it in front of non believers, without the truth from the truth. You must be born again as an immortal spirit to enter the kingdom, as flesh cannot enter, neither spiritualism, only those born again as immortal spirits. The words of the savior I discovered, are so much better than apostles though they be ordained. Thank you.
Good stuff!
""If it could be demonstrated that God does not exist, I would, of course, become an atheist. And if it could be demonstrated that God does exist, I would, of course, become an atheist."
Kim Fabricius
Huh?
What does this mean?
What does it mean to demonstrate something does not exist. How would that even be possible? If it could be demonstrated that God does not exists is a meaningless statement. I will help you out here. If you can demonstrate that God exists I would become a theist.
@@Jimmy-iy9plit demonstrates the hatred and contempt for truth that atheists have.
@@kos-mos1127irreducible complexity, specified complexity, laws of physics ( specifically laws of conservation of mass and energy) divine harmony, sacred geometry. If you're humble, smart, and intelligent enough, God's rather apparent.
to believe in God is to find meaning and purpose of our existence, unbelief would be living without purpose - a mere existence and vanity. To believe in God makes a more healthy individual with a meaning and purpose. Soli Deo Gloria!
He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.
Still a silly answer.
Subbed & Liked! Enjoyed the video! Good work!
Thanks! 🎉
The stupidest thing that these new atheists have ever done is to try and apply the scientific method on nonscientific subjects.
such subjects as......?
@@larrycarter3765 Does God exist?
Martin isn't "laying into Keller". He is presenting him with scenarios and propositions, to which Keller responds.
Dethrone themselves from the center of their own heat & their own mind... Indeed, we are reflections of our creator. Crucify the old man & put on the new
Blessings fam 🫀
God doesn't use human parameters to prove Himself. His parameter is Faith. " All who come to Him must believe that He Is. And that He richly rewards those who seek Him."
Thanks!
Thank you!! 🙏❤️
Love your channel!
Great vid. Some tech feedback though, seems to be an issue with the audio. Hoping you can fix on the next one.
Yes, I’ve sorted it out now. My apologies for that!
@@Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdom nice! And no worries, my dude. Keep up the good work!
I'm really enjoying your channel, brother.
Daily dose of wisdom speakers that you show on your TH-cam channel a nice but may I suggest, showing videos of other speakers, such as Voddie Baucham or John MacArthur .
Certainly! I do have a few McArthur videos actually! 👍
We must dethrone ourselves from our hearts before God will come in and abide with us. ❤
Amen, and another way to say it, you can't be at the throne of your heart, and at the same time have Jesus on the throne too
@@karlinwilliamson9329 I'love Jesus 💕
@@johnalexander4940 me too
He said it’s healthier to be an atheist, but Christians have the highest average life expectancy of all the “religions.”
I say religion in quotations because Jesus taught it’s more important to have a relationship with God than traditions with God, “I desire mercy, not sacrifice.” So calling Christianity a religion never sits right with me, because if it’s being done right it’s a family.
But for me and everyone I know we are MUCH healthier after coming to faith in Christ. I went from a 99 pound pot head in 2016 to a healthy member of society overflowing with love for people. Sounds healthier to me!
Awesome videos, as always 👌
I love this channel💚
And then there are those of us who have had an encounter with the resurrected Christ who prompted them to read the Bible, which resulted in their salvation.
Great video
I like this channel. I don't believe in God but I do like talking about these sorts of things. I feel that if everyone thought the same way as I do, then the world would be a rather dull place. So I appreciate the differing views.
SUBMISSIVENESS and OBEDIENCE BRING HONOR and ETERNAL LIFE
Worshippers of the Creator KNOW
and understand that their submissiveness and obedience to Jesus Christ's authority and teachings about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead"
as written in Matthew 28:18, Luke 4: 43, and John 11: 25, 26
will definitely bring them honor and the Creator's favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4.
The "KINGDOM of GOD" and "RESURRECTION of the DEAD"
The Creator KNOWS
that he didn't create human beings with immortal souls and they will just become worthless and useless dusts on earth after their deaths just like the animals as written in Ecclesiastes 3: 19, 20 ; 9: 5, 6
which means,
Jesus Christ KNOWS
that all
Atheists and Evolutionists
who are filling the world with their lie and false claim that the Creator is worthless, merciless, cruel, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign God
and all
Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and Fanatics of all kinds of Religions
who are filling the world fill with their own lies and Unbiblical teachings and doctrines about "Armageddon", "immortality of the souls or the heaven and hellfire doctrine", "Trinity", "rapture", and "reincarnation"
will
never be glorified by the Creator in their make-believe and fairy tale Heaven nor punished and tortured for eternity in their invented and fictitious Hell but just become worthless and useless dusts on earth forever after their inescapable deaths
while
worshippers of the Creator who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, his disciples and followers, and many others will not remain as worthless and useless dusts on earth forever,
instead,
in the right and proper time and as written in John 11: 25, 26,
he will definitely, gladly, and willingly RESURRECT them back to life so they can all happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" or the Creator's Kingdom
and fully enjoy his and the Creator's eternal love, kindness, goodness, compassions, generosities, favors, and blessings for eternity under his loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection as the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
Come to church on Sunday
@@georgewagner7787 eh. Whenever I go to a church, I get talked *to* rather talked *with.*
The amazing point made here is one that I sent over and over and over. The atheists literally "don't want there to be a God"
It's not that they just don't see any evidence. They're actually repulsed by the idea. That's the deception of unbelief. And clouds the mind.
Ecclesiastes 12, 13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God and keep His commandments. For this is man's all. 14 For God will bring every work into judgment, including every secret thing, whether good or evil.
What does this have to do with anything?
@@kos-mos1127 It has everything to do with everything - humanity's entire purpose.
@@jesuguru2394 Scriptures from near eastern bronze age men have nothing to do with humanities entire purpose. The Jewish people were attempting to establish an eternal empire so they created God to unite the people.
A very interesting discussion, thank you for posting . Am I the only one to find Bashir slightly unfriendly?
Where, pray tell, does that Chesterton quote come from?
What happened to your audio? We can hear a lot of background noise. This is not a complaint BTW
It’ll be fixed by the next video. Just a glitch with this one but I had already recorded it so I decided to let it rip and move forward. My apologies for any annoyance!
"With me the horrid doubt always arises whether the convictions of man's mind, which has been developed from the mind of the lower animals, are of any value or at all trustworthy." --Charles Darwin, letter to W. Graham, 1881 Jul 03
This is good.
Good discourse!
Let's all agree that the camera operator needs help. ;o|
For the most part religous thought is different, because, and when it relies on faith as its reason for justification.
The best question is...should we rely on faith as justification, especially for important issues that inform our worldview and cause us to act in certain ways towards others and pass legislation based on this faith?
Should you take it on faith that a bus is not coming at you (when it is coming right at you) and you walk right towards it?
I've had experience of caring for someone suffering from delusion. The sufferer was offended at being described as such.
The Psychiatrist explained that delusion is reaching a conclusion without having sufficient reason to reach it. It does not mean the conclusion is wrong.
That is religion surely? No one can give me a coherent reason why what they believe is right and I am wrong not to agree.
I don't see a need for a god. I concede I don't want to believe, on two levels;
a) There's no reason to,
b) I'm deeply troubled by what that god is like.
Many don’t want a God because they want their beliefs to be correct without consequence.It’s not about the self but about their Father in Heaven
I would love to do a talk / video with talking about the following:
God is spirit
Not physical
This is why most folks don’t believe..
We need to explain to people that again, God is spirit or phenomenon. For example think of the spirit of the 4th of July.. or think of the Christmas spirit.. Are these things physical? No.. do you not believe in the spirit of the 4th of July.
We all utilize faith every day. When you drive, you have faith that you will arrive at your destination safely. When you cross a bridge, you have faith that the bridge won’t collapse. PLUS, more and more archeological discoveries and review of many ancient manuscripts substantiate what the Bible says.
Wrong. You'd have to completely ignore reality to believe there's exactly a 0% chance of you failing to arrive at your destination when you drive. The data shows there's a small chance you'll be in a crash (or various other reasons why your car might not arrive at the destination; heart attack; out of gas; etc).
In fact no sensible person should ever have faith on any topic, except the existence of our own mind (because faith means complete confidence, and the only topic where that's justified is our own mind's existence). Also it should always be strange to theists that they're constantly steering conversation away from the actual religion-related definition of "faith" ('belief in a god based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof'). It should be stranger that theists ever bother posting anything other than strong, logical evidence of a god (after all, if we had good reason to believe, we'd have evidence like that. But gosh...we don't have that, do we?)
To say that our choice of faith is solely based on where or how we are raised. Therefore, free will not exist, and we are all slaved to only 1 belief. We are all automatons. So what is the reason for living? How do individuals see different paths to God?
Free will is useful tool to analyze your action. The reason for living is to live everything else is a game that we play.
For me this is what “The argument” boils down to…all of the spiritual reasons, and even historical Jesus reasons, for me to believe…vs me being baffled at how cruel the planet is. AKA the famous Problem of Suffering, not only with humans, but the entire world.
BTW, I don’t know this Keller dude from Adam. But I like how articulately tight his points are. He seems to say more in lesser words than a lot of people do.
My take is that the scientific revolution (while not philosophically new imho) did through the likes of godly men like Kepler, Bacon, and Newton give humans permission to practice science over the material realm based on -i will just give- two axioms: God is immutible, so maybe His creation can be assumed so; and man has faculties like tool making and reason, so we can increase our body of knowledge via science. Then the later trajectory of 'enlightenment' was man saying, we take your axioms without the God factor, which overemphasized man in those axioms and reduced 'evidence' down to the material. People often don't get exposed to or understand some basic philosophical principles or even know that there is a philosophy of science that 'permits' science to be a thing with a limited scope.
It would be so easy to not believe in God,....but whether I believe or dont believe....., doesnt mean he doesnt exist, my belief isnt a requirement of his existence...same with prayer, whether he answers them the way I want to or not, doesnt mean he isnt real... the faith is for me, there will be one day where THAT faith will not exist but turn into a fact
Good point!
@@Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdom been watching a lot of ya videos lately, i enjoyed the insights...thank ya!
1:31 of course you can prove that your memory works. Ask others if they also remember the same thing. Find an old photo, audio file or video. What is this guy saying????
Sorry with an update at 10m to re explain what was just said as if we didn't understand it .
Great video, but lowsy camera work. This isn't some action scene that needs shaky cam. Just set up a shot covering both guys talking and leave it alone. Not a fan of the constant panning back and forth and zooming in/out. Spielberg you are not.
An interesting question is: If, today, God physically revealed himself to the world and provided indisputable evidence that He exists, created the universe, and offers eternal life, but expects that humans turn over their lives to Him and live by His standards, do you think everyone would follow Him?
I've heard people say, "I'd rather spend eternity in Hell than serve a God eternally in Heaven", so I suspect that many people still would not follow the Christian God if He proved His existence.
How would we know that he is not an advanced being masquerading as a God. How do we know that this being did not just claim that he created the universe? How do we know that there are not other being that can create a universe? How would said being prove that he is God?
As soon as a being claimed to be God I know that said being would be lying.
@@kos-mos1127 It's a hypothetical question... Let's assume it's indisputable as I said above. Your response kind of reinforces my thoughts, though 😁.
@@thunderhorse689 Not really. Humans have set the criteria for what is God. So as long as something is sufficiently more powerful than humans will claim that something is God.
Let's say a group beings came from the stars, landed on Earth then started casually creating universes would they be God?
Yes from the conversation not from the fact you posted it , with 15 second of you explaining it at the beginning
What?
"Since you were not born in Aztec Empire, how can you say that slaughtering slaves and extracting their hearts is not a good way to make the sun rise?"
Some things are just wrong.
If you read the book of Acts you read about what's possible now. Only those that love God and the truth can experience that.
No one can "test it"
Religious faith is judgement absent reason. One can accept anything according to the biblical definition. Secularism withholds judgement until there is reason to accept an assertion. People use their senses to know their reality. Because it's reliable, there is no need for faith (not to be confused with confidence).
That's not the definition of faith according to the Bible or most Christians throughout the history of the world.
Secularism, should know in a courtroom, the preponderance convicts.
It should also know the preponderance should convince. The preponderance of evidence that a series of miracles has been necessary for the existence of humanity in it's current state. The secularist should carry the burden of explanation for why science doesn't know the origin of each of those miracles. Miracles being not natural thus supernatural. Like the 3 pound piece of fat/meat, in your head, by miracle, giving you the ability to surmise no God. Conciousness, is the last, best miracle, or you would still be just a carbon based lifeform, bless your mortal, meaningless, purposeless, pointless carbon heart. When the miracles necessary for our existence are taken for granted, of course there's no God.
@@Jimmy-iy9pl Yes it is.
Faith just means trust we all trust in something.
Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen....because no evidence is required ANY belief is justified..
You see what you want to see unless you see what they want you to see
Or your legally blind in witch case I'm not sure one might imagine darkness but you be pleasantly surprised
Human beings naturally and instinctively recognize AGENCY.
It has been demonstrated that babies as young as 6 months old can grasp the concept of "agency" behind events and differentiate between agency and the "objects" it interacts with. That means a baby at 6 months is able to distinguish between a harm done to it by a person and therfore "on purpose," and a harm inflicted by an object that simply "happens to" it and therefore reacts differently to the harm. If the baby determines that the actions of an agent -- a parent or other human interacting with it -- caused a hard ball to be dropped on its' head, it will react not just with tears, but with anger and resentment. Whereas if that same ball slips off a shelf and hits it on the head,the baby will merely cry. It does not hold the ball or the shelf responsible - having intent - and therefore accountable - receiving anger, resentment, and maybe one day, revenge - for it's pain.
We look at the stars and accept that an astronomer can calculate their movements over millions of years, therefore, they are objects. But then we look BEHIND and BEYOND the stars and see the intelligence of an AGENT in the DESIGN of their movements!
God is so obvious, a 6 month old can see him!
God is not obvious. I look at the stars and see nature. A never ending process that unfolds latent potential into actual existence.
@@kos-mos1127
He is if you are actually seeking him.
But don’t worry your atheist head about God. He doesn’t exist so don’t waste your time.
But that raises a question … Why are you here? Wasting your time?
When my brothers told me Santa wasn’t real when I was 6 I stopped sitting on his lap at Sears I never wrote him letters and I always gave my Christmas Lists to my parents - and it was about as effective as sending it to Santa Claus, to be honest.
I also never told a single other child who believed that Santa wasn’t real. Why would I?Whether they believed in Santa was their parents’ business. If believing friends began talking about Santa, I left. Not to be rude but because I was bored. What was there point? Santa wasn’t real so why expend the energy? The reason I stopped thinking about Santa Claus at the age of 6 was because his non-existence made him IRRELEVANT.
Yet here you are. My guess is you can’t leave the idea of God alone. Theist talking to atheists makes perfect sense. It’s actually encouraged in holy writ.
Atheists talking to theists makes no sense. Why are you wasting your time?
_"But then we look BEHIND and BEYOND the stars and see the intelligence of an AGENT in the DESIGN of their movements! "_
How do you go about proving that?
@@terrifictomm I am here to de convert people.
"The light of faith makes us see what we believe."
Saint Thomas Aquinas
Whether God Exists (1270) Q.109, art.2
faith
/fāTH/
noun
strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof.
Thank you for sharing and commenting on this interview. Bashur just shows how a foolish man, wise in his own eyes, who spews out word salad from other foolish men, and thinks he sounds intelligent. Who wants to look to look up to that kind of man? He is why we need JESUS. JESUS is the complete opposite, and why we can TRUST HIM, and it "mere men". 🙏
This is my body, which will be given up...for you.