Another element that defines this novel as "modern" has to do with an idea that we take for granted today: The reader as audience. Prior to Gutenberg's gismo (1453) the uses of writing fell into two primary categories: Archival, and as an avenue to performance. Performance had the audience, not writing. The idea that the readership is the audience, that writing itself can be a performance, comes to us primarily via Cervantes.
the europeans invented the factory. meaning they are rich . europeans are rich and should live like kings because they invented the FActory. What is a factory?
I am 18 years old and have been reading Don Quixote for around 2 weeks. I’m now on chapter 13 of part 2. It might be my favorite book ever, possibly even better then my absolute favorite book, The Wind In The Willows. Cervantes writing is very very inspirational, hilarious and ingenious and I think once I’ve finished it will be my favorite book.
Tim Nance I 100% agree. the writing is impeccable and the work is just generally ingenious all around! Still not done with the book, but I read the chapter with the knight of the mirrors who battled with Don Quixote in Part 2 Chapter 15 I think, and that chapter is the best one so far! I really liked the Narwhal parody you made of chapter 7 where your fellow teachers played as the barber and curate and tried to do away with your comic books. I am actually considering making a group for completely inexperienced modern knights. I want to call it FF knights or The Fantastically Fallacious Knights of Terra Firma, or maybe The Righteous Order of Fictitious and Erratic Knights Errant. I’ll probably go with both names. I am making group rules and taking notes for this. I also plan on constructing my own armor. Of course I’ll only be pretending or acting but I want to make the process fun and I think that, in order for it to be fun, I should put a lot of effort into the act. Also my knight name will likely be: Señor Saberon De Galaxia, even though I’m a girl, and therefore am not a Señor. I even want to make a LAMP or WAMP site for the purpose of informing people about FF Knights and for discussing Knight fiction and likely some non fiction too.
Sounds amazing! I wish you and the FF the best! Maybe I’ll join! Also, part 2 just keeps getting better. I love the knight of the mirrors bit, especially Sancho’s terror of the squire’s nose! Sanson is such a fun secondary character in part 2. Let me know when you get to the end. I have a strong emotional reaction to the end every time I read it!
Agree. If he does, he would not remember and discuss his point of knight errant. He realises he was the decoy of his own adventure but pretends not to.
Tim Nance Good discussion. So its 100 years after the Reconquista, The Age of Discovery and Spain is a world power. Cervantes decides to modernize the Romance and Chanson de Geste. Who is the audience he is targeting?
I'm no expert on early 17th century Spain, but here's my take: Cervantes certainly appreciates publication and sponsorship--desperately needs it for survival in fact--so he must shoot in part for the aristocracy. But his book doesn't feel like it caters to the upper classes entirely--it's remarkably universal. Even when he acts like he's supporting the establishment and condemning silly Romance, you get the feeling he's pulling your leg. Look at his "appreciation" of his "sponsors" in the prologue of part two, for example. I'd compare him to Shakespeare with something for everyone: fancy love stories and tragedy for the fancy and crude jokes for the crass. It's something I should address in a future episode. Thanks!
Tim Nance I know little of the developing middle class and just how literate they are in 17th C, Spain. I suspect that the expulsion of the moors and jews in spain in 1492 may have lowered the literacy rate at least temporarily. Iam struck with how often Cervantes uses the techniques of Plautus and Terence.
Yes, many of the details of the story relate to the expulsion of the moors including Cervantes's "moorish" and unreliable narrator. I don't know Plautus and Terence enough to comment. I'll try to do my research!
Tommy Coughlin Not really. The Chanson de Gest, Canciòn de gesta, was Medieval and we are in the Golden Age (Renaissance and Baroque) in the time of Cervantes. The popularity of the books of chivalry was tremendous when Cervantes was young. The books of chivalry may be Medievalism but not Medieval. Now, it is true that many of the "romances" which may have come from Cantares de gesta were written down during the first part of the Golden Age, though not the books of chivalry.
The scene dealing with the disappearance of the library is very interesting here in the first book where Don Quixote is normally the one who changes reality for the rest of us. By the time we get into book 2 we find others, even eventually Sancho Panza, changing the world for Don Quixote.
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Another element that defines this novel as "modern" has to do with an idea that we take for granted today: The reader as audience. Prior to Gutenberg's gismo (1453) the uses of writing fell into two primary categories: Archival, and as an avenue to performance. Performance had the audience, not writing. The idea that the readership is the audience, that writing itself can be a performance, comes to us primarily via Cervantes.
ginesdepasamonte An excellent point! I love the interplay with the reader throughout the book!
the europeans invented the factory. meaning they are rich . europeans are rich and should live like kings because they invented the FActory. What is a factory?
Fabulous explanation of a complicated novel. Thank you for posting this video.
Thank you! I had some complications finishing this series, but hopefully I'll be able to get back to it soon!
I am 18 years old and have been reading Don Quixote for around 2 weeks. I’m now on chapter 13 of part 2. It might be my favorite book ever, possibly even better then my absolute favorite book, The Wind In The Willows. Cervantes writing is very very inspirational, hilarious and ingenious and I think once I’ve finished it will be my favorite book.
It’s so good!
Tim Nance I 100% agree. the writing is impeccable and the work is just generally ingenious all around! Still not done with the book, but I read the chapter with the knight of the mirrors who battled with Don Quixote in Part 2 Chapter 15 I think, and that chapter is the best one so far! I really liked the Narwhal parody you made of chapter 7 where your fellow teachers played as the barber and curate and tried to do away with your comic books. I am actually considering making a group for completely inexperienced modern knights. I want to call it FF knights or The Fantastically Fallacious Knights of Terra Firma, or maybe The Righteous Order of Fictitious and Erratic Knights Errant. I’ll probably go with both names. I am making group rules and taking notes for this. I also plan on constructing my own armor. Of course I’ll only be pretending or acting but I want to make the process fun and I think that, in order for it to be fun, I should put a lot of effort into the act. Also my knight name will likely be: Señor Saberon De Galaxia, even though I’m a girl, and therefore am not a Señor. I even want to make a LAMP or WAMP site for the purpose of informing people about FF Knights and for discussing Knight fiction and likely some non fiction too.
Sounds amazing! I wish you and the FF the best! Maybe I’ll join!
Also, part 2 just keeps getting better. I love the knight of the mirrors bit, especially Sancho’s terror of the squire’s nose! Sanson is such a fun secondary character in part 2. Let me know when you get to the end. I have a strong emotional reaction to the end every time I read it!
dude i’m 14 and required to read this book
@@lucalombardo9604 enjoy my friend, you will.
Don Quixote is not really crazy, but pretends his madness. It can be deduced from his own words.
Agree. If he does, he would not remember and discuss his point of knight errant. He realises he was the decoy of his own adventure but pretends not to.
I wanted to get summary of the first 5 chapters, but u SPOILED all the book buy telling us the ending, that he is dieing :/
Tim Nance Good discussion. So its 100 years after the Reconquista, The Age of Discovery and Spain is a world power. Cervantes decides to modernize the Romance and Chanson de Geste. Who is the audience he is targeting?
I'm no expert on early 17th century Spain, but here's my take: Cervantes certainly appreciates publication and sponsorship--desperately needs it for survival in fact--so he must shoot in part for the aristocracy. But his book doesn't feel like it caters to the upper classes entirely--it's remarkably universal. Even when he acts like he's supporting the establishment and condemning silly Romance, you get the feeling he's pulling your leg. Look at his "appreciation" of his "sponsors" in the prologue of part two, for example. I'd compare him to Shakespeare with something for everyone: fancy love stories and tragedy for the fancy and crude jokes for the crass. It's something I should address in a future episode. Thanks!
Tim Nance I know little of the developing middle class and just how literate they are in 17th C, Spain. I suspect that the expulsion of the moors and jews in spain in 1492 may have lowered the literacy rate at least temporarily. Iam struck with how often Cervantes uses the techniques of Plautus and Terence.
Yes, many of the details of the story relate to the expulsion of the moors including Cervantes's "moorish" and unreliable narrator. I don't know Plautus and Terence enough to comment. I'll try to do my research!
Tim Nance Apuleius' Metamorphosis aka "The Golden Ass" is Thought to be the Proto-Novel that preceded Cervantes.
Tommy Coughlin Not really. The Chanson de Gest, Canciòn de
gesta, was Medieval and we are in the Golden Age (Renaissance and Baroque) in
the time of Cervantes. The popularity of the books of chivalry was tremendous
when Cervantes was young. The books of chivalry may be Medievalism but not
Medieval. Now, it is true that many of the "romances" which may have
come from Cantares de gesta were written down during the first part of the
Golden Age, though not the books of chivalry.
The scene dealing with the disappearance of the library is very interesting here in the first book where Don Quixote is normally the one who changes reality for the rest of us. By the time we get into book 2 we find others, even eventually Sancho Panza, changing the world for Don Quixote.
If anyone wants to watch a better version of this, Yale has uploaded their courses about Don Quixote. I’d suggest those over this guy!!