If it’s even a conversation about penalizing Larson for something everyone knew about for over a year and promoted and not factoring in weather messing it all up then people are really short sighted
You can’t argue with small minded people. It blows my mind to hear these dumb arguments. I had to realize how small minded some people in this sport are
Brett is DELUSIONAL if he thinks drivers running the Indy 500 isn’t GREAT for NASCAR. It’s honestly embarrassing. You need to get off your high horse. Nascar is losing ratings and fans by the minute and Larson running Indy was a massive story and tremendous exposure for nascar.
I was at the Indy 500 for 3 days. I seen more Kyle Larson shirts all 3 days than I seen top drivers of Indycar. I have been at Indy for 36 years. I am a Nascar fan first always. I listen to you nuckleheads.
Another side of the waiver debate is that most drivers want it granted because fans will question whether the next cup champion is deserving if they don't get to compete with Larson for it. Denny talked about this on his podcast. Fair point.
There is a reason Brett is sitting at home watching the races. He's just not that smart. Go up and down pit road, ask every driver what they think. Just a guess, not a single fvcking driver would say Larson should not be eligible for the championship. The biggest star in racing will not be held out of a championship. No way in hell
Brett my man. Kyle said at Indy everyone that made the decision to stay at Indy. You know better than to say it was solely a Larson decision to miss the race and cost his team 😂
Rain changes things so yea Larson needs the waver. Larson never wanted to miss the race but nobody can control the weather. If weather wasn’t the issue then no Larson wouldn’t deserve a waver
"I'm a negative asshole and they right I am". LOL. This is why I love this show. I gotta complain, i just have to. This chris guy is cool as hell. lol.
Exactly. MoNa got pissed and tried to piss on both races BBQs and she did - dal with it. Everything else becomes a non issue at that point. Crap happens
At this point just ditch the damn waiver then if we are going to get this pissy about it. Everyone seems to have their panties in a wad over it. You want superstars that can transcend racing, but heaven help if they miss a race attempting the double. The wavier doesn't server a purpose anymore. A driver isn't going to skip a race short of some great reason. The teams and sponsors aren't going let Larson or Byron have a day at the lake for the fun of it just because they have a win in the bank.
Why is everyone is having a heart attack about Larson's 626 out of 1100 miles on Sunday. This was a celebration for all parties Indycar and NASCAR and hopefully every series of different types of racing companies of racing venues like gt sports car racing dirt track racing and other shows of different types. He can try again and succeed his now second dream that is left and that is the 1100 double with no weather issues at the time next year.😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
Wait a sec, my boy Hemric was mentioned?! Alright, you've got a regular listener out of me lol You all misunderstood that caller -- they said _if it's an overtime_ instead of a GWC to add the caution laps back in
I went to the Indy 500 for the first time to watch Larson. It was a really good race, but I was also watching the 600 on my phone during the 500. NASCAR will always be my favorite series.
NASCAR shouldn’t expect anyone to think the Coke 600 is special at all. I don’t care who had to stay for how long. Would the NFL cut the Superbowl short? No, it’ll get finished no matter what. So the 600 is special, but not special enough for people to have to work til 2am? BS. The 600 is not a big deal.
Why is no one saying they could have restarted on Monday at 11am or Noon. But then again this is the same sport that allowed the orange pig to be at the event.
football you can play in any weather rain, snow, hot as shit, or unbearably cold. nascar is completely different in that sense where our #1 enemy is mother nature itself
@@nathanielbarkley7452 right, but Mother Nature itself did not end the race. It was deemed “too late.” I’m not saying it was wrong, but running 600 miles was not important enough to stay up late. NASCAR might as well just admit it’s not important.
So what we’re saying is everyone else mattered at the 600 but the fans. All roads once again lead to money and I’m so sick of hearing about these business and their money dealings.
Come on guys,get over it. Kyle Larson is the number one man in the sport.larson made it to the 600 and was ready to get in the car,when it rained they should have run the 600 the next day, they do it all the time. No sense in that decision. A lot of disappointment fans😊
This show is usually pretty good. The girl on the show seems to be the weak link. Not sure how she got the job, weird facial expressions and just not up on what she talks about. Would like to see Carla Gebhart come over to take over. I bet the show would double in quality and viewers!
the fact that driver change needed to be a person of the size of Larson and Kevin had a complete seat change to do the practice at all Star race. but for the Coke 600 needed Algier to use the same seat that Lason needed to jump in and finish in the car. I believe both Nascar benefited from the Double attempt past and future racer all draw attention to both
With out larson they would not have been 1st in points if nascar was not going to give larson a wavier they should have told him an I bet u larson would have been at the start of the coke 600
Could just grant driver a waiver if it's not medical reason the driver waiver comes with a point reduction or possibly require the driver to win again for the waiver to be active.
The Indy 500 is the Daytona 500 of the indy car world. I want to see more drivers make the double but I think nascar needs to put a cap on how many drivers can do the double like 5 & I like to see indy car drivers come over to nascar for the 600.
I don't think Biden is into NASCAR and so unless would have been invited by NASCAR or Speedway Motorsports he wouldn't have gone anyway. For Trump it was A publicity stunt. He may be a fan of NASCAR and have gone to previous race before he was a politician and sat on dales pit box with Richard but he sure couldn't be bothered to stay past what lap 53
Kurt Busch got suspended for allegedly beating his whatever she was. Got a waiver. Tony Stewart missed races for allegedly killing another driver in a sprint car race. Got a waiver.
I don't think Larson should get a wavier, although I understand why he did it, he chose to miss the start of the 600 when he had the option (not really, I get it) to be there
The waiver thing, not matter what the rules say, is like everything else in NASCAR, it's up to their discretion. Sometimes that's good, sometimes not. They make it up as they go along. I don't know that Larson was going to get a top 5. Once everyone was good on fuel, the lap times dropped and things got serious. At the end of the race he wasn't able to make up positions like he had before. Indycar's biggest problem is the tracks they race on. It's a great car, North America has very few really good road courses suitable for that car to stretch it's legs. There are "Iconic" tracks, just not many good ones. They can't put together a deal to race on the few that do exist. They were most popular when they raced on 1.5 and 2 mile ovals. I understand why they don't anymore. They have a dedicated fan base, just not a big one. I had to laugh at the comment about where the money would go if they got more. Race teams will never "make a profit". They will spend every dime they get no matter how much it is.
They had rain tires but chose not to use them. How much do those rain tires cost for every race times 36 teams and not use them ? How much ...can anyone help me understand that. I saw the rain tires on pit road so I know that could have been possible. Plus . They have windshield wipers also 🤷
Man after watching that video of ryan and Tommy I'll say this tommy is lucky he didn't get punched. Ryan had every right to push him dude got up in his face.
You got to consider how many hours already lot of people had been working like security and law enforcement with traffic and of course emergency personnel.
It's not that they voluntarily chose indy they wanted both an indy wanted both nascar wanted both larson wanted both an him running both was good for every person involved an what your doing should matter he was not deep sea fishing he was not at the chilli bowl he was trying to do something great
Kyle Larson made NASCAR mmoney. But lets say NASCAR says he does not get a waiver. So he does something else for the rest of the year since he is ineligble then next year does he come back to NASCAR or go to something else like maybe F1? And what do NASCAR fans do if a championship driver and cempetitor for the championship races for nothing or goes someplace else the rest of the year?
If nascar is smart they will give larson his wavier if they dnt larson might just say ok fck u i will go race dirt make money have more fun nascar needs larson more then larson needs nascar an its not like larson missed the race to go to the chilli bowl he was trying to be great u cant start penalizing guys for trying to be great
Let’s face it y’all of course truth be told YES for God sakes they we’re waiting for Kyle to make a Lap. Why the hell wouldn’t they for god sakes I mean realistically why wouldn’t they?? Kyle LARSON brings thousands of eye balls to the sport, views, fans ect. = $$ do I need to say more?? So yes quit crying they sure did wanna get the kid a lap that is a level above anyone on the track. Why the hell wouldn’t they I know I would for a business owner. Geez u guys act like he kept his points and shit… Such haters in my opinion and I like this show for targeting my guy Kyle I’ll opt out the next few weeks is all. Be sweat off my back!! So NASCAR you did good and was doing the right thing, just for last weekend now l, let’s not get ahead of ourselves now lol, but in my honest opinion y’all couldn’t have done anything better or different for what hand u we’re dealt!!
41:18 bingo first time i ever agreed with brett larson shouldnt get a wavier he literally skipped the start of the 6000 his full time carrer learn the hard way
If it’s even a conversation about penalizing Larson for something everyone knew about for over a year and promoted and not factoring in weather messing it all up then people are really short sighted
Missing out on earning any points at the 600 is a penalty in itself. Bell got like 67 points. That's almost 2 races worth.
You can’t argue with small minded people. It blows my mind to hear these dumb arguments. I had to realize how small minded some people in this sport are
It’s Hendrick. Larson could only run the last lap and they’d still give him a waiver.
If it’s raining at the pool at your house but not your mom’s house you going swimming at home or the place it isn’t raining?
Brett: "You usedta could, butchu mightcan't now."
Easily the most North Carolina sentence in Dirty Mo history! 😂😂
I sometimes need subtitles to understand him 🤣🤣🤣
I absolutely loved hearing Chris Rice on these topics. Such a different viewpoint that we don't normally see.
Brett is DELUSIONAL if he thinks drivers running the Indy 500 isn’t GREAT for NASCAR. It’s honestly embarrassing. You need to get off your high horse. Nascar is losing ratings and fans by the minute and Larson running Indy was a massive story and tremendous exposure for nascar.
You are absolutely right!
Denny said the track was pretty dry shortly after they stopped trying
Tony Kanaan was not approved to run in Kyle’s spot because he did not complete his refresh practice. It would have been Nolan Siegel
Now I want to work to work for Kaulig racing after listening to him.
Stg, he said paid training
Alex Palou won the race before Indy, Chris and they race at Detroit this weekend. :D
I was at the Indy 500 for 3 days. I seen more Kyle Larson shirts all 3 days than I seen top drivers of Indycar. I have been at Indy for 36 years.
I am a Nascar fan first always. I listen to you nuckleheads.
That’s exactly what i was showed after the track was 90% dry, Blowers shut down and they sent us home!
SVG just turned 35 not 38
Another side of the waiver debate is that most drivers want it granted because fans will question whether the next cup champion is deserving if they don't get to compete with Larson for it. Denny talked about this on his podcast. Fair point.
What kind of question is "who won the last IndyCar race?" When you aren't following that sport to know? Alex Palou. No google necessary.
i follow indy every other race and even follow them on ig, idk if its algorithm but you never see posts or videos of winners
SVG just turned 35!!!!!!
Bahaha i was going to say these guys dont even know how old the bro is 😂🤦🏽♂️
Gives a bit of an insight…..
There is a reason Brett is sitting at home watching the races. He's just not that smart. Go up and down pit road, ask every driver what they think. Just a guess, not a single fvcking driver would say Larson should not be eligible for the championship. The biggest star in racing will not be held out of a championship. No way in hell
We are in need of people??? Didn't teams lay off 1/3 to 1/2 of their teams with this new car? Confused
The irony of listening to a story about how much a rain out costs from a team create because rain exists. 😂
And the tightwad’s control the weather.
TK was not approved. He didn't take his refresher test on that Thursday before the race.
That “I thought it was Ricky Stenhouse” answer to the who won the all star race question went over a lot of people’s heads I’m sure.
He was wrecked on lap 2, of course he didn't win
Hey just wondering what episode (if any?) is full crew going to show up for the show?
Brett my man. Kyle said at Indy everyone that made the decision to stay at Indy. You know better than to say it was solely a Larson decision to miss the race and cost his team 😂
Best Door Bumper Clear I have ever watched.
Rain changes things so yea Larson needs the waver. Larson never wanted to miss the race but nobody can control the weather. If weather wasn’t the issue then no Larson wouldn’t deserve a waver
"I'm a negative asshole and they right I am". LOL. This is why I love this show. I gotta complain, i just have to.
This chris guy is cool as hell. lol.
The Brett Griffin show , I like it 😂
Would rather see the TJ show, he's the only level headed voice on this show
I guess Brett dosen't want to see Larson going for championship
Im so tired of the debate about the waiver. Drivers have already optionally chose to sit out and thats never been an issue. This is a non issue.
Which drivers in the last 30 years?
@@ericthompson1520 Erik Jones just about a month ago. Cleared to race, decided to wait an extra race. Happened a few times in the last few years.
Exactly. MoNa got pissed and tried to piss on both races BBQs and she did - dal with it. Everything else becomes a non issue at that point. Crap happens
At this point just ditch the damn waiver then if we are going to get this pissy about it. Everyone seems to have their panties in a wad over it. You want superstars that can transcend racing, but heaven help if they miss a race attempting the double. The wavier doesn't server a purpose anymore. A driver isn't going to skip a race short of some great reason. The teams and sponsors aren't going let Larson or Byron have a day at the lake for the fun of it just because they have a win in the bank.
Why is everyone is having a heart attack about Larson's 626 out of 1100 miles on Sunday. This was a celebration for all parties Indycar and NASCAR and hopefully every series of different types of racing companies of racing venues like gt sports car racing dirt track racing and other shows of different types. He can try again and succeed his now second dream that is left and that is the 1100 double with no weather issues at the time next year.😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
28:48 So fox thought it was better to have paid programming on than a live Nascar race mmk
Love having Brett and Chris Rice on DBC together. So much fun to watch!!!!
I agree with the length of stages, stage 2 should be longer than 1, but by the time they go green in 2, it' ends up being shorter than 1.
TK was not allowed to run in place of KL. The rules were changed in relation to relief drivers.
Wait a sec, my boy Hemric was mentioned?! Alright, you've got a regular listener out of me lol
You all misunderstood that caller -- they said _if it's an overtime_ instead of a GWC to add the caution laps back in
I went to the Indy 500 for the first time to watch Larson. It was a really good race, but I was also watching the 600 on my phone during the 500. NASCAR will always be my favorite series.
Dale jr needs to buy 2 and get Tony jr and Tony SR back to help run the team.
He doesn’t have the 40-60
Million dollars he even said it.
Svg is now 35 years old. Arrived in the USA, age 34yr
You had very different theories than what Denny said happened on pit road lmao
Brett has always been a Larson hater. Has his nose permanently up Bubba's hiney.
100% agree with Brett on the Larson waiver!!
NASCAR shouldn’t expect anyone to think the Coke 600 is special at all. I don’t care who had to stay for how long. Would the NFL cut the Superbowl short? No, it’ll get finished no matter what. So the 600 is special, but not special enough for people to have to work til 2am? BS. The 600 is not a big deal.
Why is no one saying they could have restarted on Monday at 11am or Noon. But then again this is the same sport that allowed the orange pig to be at the event.
The halfway rule has been in place for years calm down.
@@joshhenderson989 I’m aware. Doesn’t change a thing. If you can finish the race, you should finish the race.
football you can play in any weather rain, snow, hot as shit, or unbearably cold. nascar is completely different in that sense where our #1 enemy is mother nature itself
@@nathanielbarkley7452 right, but Mother Nature itself did not end the race. It was deemed “too late.” I’m not saying it was wrong, but running 600 miles was not important enough to stay up late. NASCAR might as well just admit it’s not important.
Grant enfinger was denied a waiver a couple years back for not running a race due to sponsorship.
So what we’re saying is everyone else mattered at the 600 but the fans. All roads once again lead to money and I’m so sick of hearing about these business and their money dealings.
Come on guys,get over it. Kyle Larson is the number one man in the sport.larson made it to the 600 and was ready to get in the car,when it rained they should have run the 600 the next day, they do it all the time. No sense in that decision. A lot of disappointment fans😊
Pretty sure Tony wasn't approved is what i read
Alex Pallou won the Indy GP two weeks before the Indy 500 because im a real race fan and not just a NASCAR fan
3rd….for Dale
This show is usually pretty good. The girl on the show seems to be the weak link. Not sure how she got the job, weird facial expressions and just not up on what she talks about. Would like to see Carla Gebhart come over to take over. I bet the show would double in quality and viewers!
the fact that driver change needed to be a person of the size of Larson and Kevin had a complete seat change to do the practice at all Star race. but for the Coke 600 needed Algier to use the same seat that Lason needed to jump in and finish in the car. I believe both Nascar benefited from the Double attempt past and future racer all draw attention to both
With out larson they would not have been 1st in points if nascar was not going to give larson a wavier they should have told him an I bet u larson would have been at the start of the coke 600
Could just grant driver a waiver if it's not medical reason the driver waiver comes with a point reduction or possibly require the driver to win again for the waiver to be active.
Larson would of drove to front if race would of went back green
The Indy 500 is the Daytona 500 of the indy car world. I want to see more drivers make the double but I think nascar needs to put a cap on how many drivers can do the double like 5 & I like to see indy car drivers come over to nascar for the 600.
Chris Rice = Common sense ty
We need 42 or 43 cars per race. More cars on a short track means more action. More cars on speedways means more energy in the draft.
Tj getting his battery’s changed in his tesla 😂
President Biden's son served in our military and was deployed to Iraq.
He actually deserves to be at the 600...btw
I don't think Biden is into NASCAR and so unless would have been invited by NASCAR or Speedway Motorsports he wouldn't have gone anyway. For Trump it was A publicity stunt. He may be a fan of NASCAR and have gone to previous race before he was a politician and sat on dales pit box with Richard but he sure couldn't be bothered to stay past what lap 53
Jimmie Johnson was at Indy for TV purposes and left early to make the race. To me it is the same as Kyle. He made his choice.
So you don't want drivers to try the double, not much of a racer are ya.
Love when Chris Rice comes on the show.
Kurt Busch got suspended for allegedly beating his whatever she was. Got a waiver.
Tony Stewart missed races for allegedly killing another driver in a sprint car race. Got a waiver.
Tommy needs to let his kid fight his battles that he creates! But I love both! Both Newman and Baldwin are badasses and pioneers in this sport
Can’t wait to see Kyle Larson get into the NHRA
Someone should've asked Brett how many people he's blocked on Twitter 😅
I don't think Larson should get a wavier, although I understand why he did it, he chose to miss the start of the 600 when he had the option (not really, I get it) to be there
Reddick was driving through the field I'm pretty sure bell led 90 something laps
This waiver conversation is ridiculous. I am sick of listening to this crap. We don't need waivers at all.
The waiver thing, not matter what the rules say, is like everything else in NASCAR, it's up to their discretion. Sometimes that's good, sometimes not. They make it up as they go along.
I don't know that Larson was going to get a top 5. Once everyone was good on fuel, the lap times dropped and things got serious. At the end of the race he wasn't able to make up positions like he had before. Indycar's biggest problem is the tracks they race on. It's a great car, North America has very few really good road courses suitable for that car to stretch it's legs. There are "Iconic" tracks, just not many good ones. They can't put together a deal to race on the few that do exist. They were most popular when they raced on 1.5 and 2 mile ovals. I understand why they don't anymore. They have a dedicated fan base, just not a big one.
I had to laugh at the comment about where the money would go if they got more. Race teams will never "make a profit". They will spend every dime they get no matter how much it is.
They had rain tires but chose not to use them. How much do those rain tires cost for every race times 36 teams and not use them ? How much ...can anyone help me understand that. I saw the rain tires on pit road so I know that could have been possible. Plus . They have windshield wipers also 🤷
They do not have rain tires for anything but road course. Damp conditions tires is for short tracks so nice try
It was the first time I’ve ever watched the Indy all had to do with Kyle Larson
What a title.
Larson is only 6 points out of first place in the standing.
The guy that called in singing should be down right embarrassed
Man after watching that video of ryan and Tommy I'll say this tommy is lucky he didn't get punched. Ryan had every right to push him dude got up in his face.
to get passing get the air going under not over the car. get the cars up off the track
Won't watch this podcast until Brett is no longer on there.
Chris Rice is a 100% a huckster.
31:32 Us normal people are made to stay after work a lot more than 1 night per year and we make a lot less so deal with it.
You got to consider how many hours already lot of people had been working like security and law enforcement with traffic and of course emergency personnel.
It's not that they voluntarily chose indy they wanted both an indy wanted both nascar wanted both larson wanted both an him running both was good for every person involved an what your doing should matter he was not deep sea fishing he was not at the chilli bowl he was trying to do something great
Kyle Larson made NASCAR mmoney. But lets say NASCAR says he does not get a waiver. So he does something else for the rest of the year since he is ineligble then next year does he come back to NASCAR or go to something else like maybe F1? And what do NASCAR fans do if a championship driver and cempetitor for the championship races for nothing or goes someplace else the rest of the year?
God Bless Our Fallen American Heroes and their Gold Star Families 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
It was b.s they didn't finish the race when they had rain tires and no rain. B.s. NASCAR decisions. Petty corporate b.s. making the sport look weak 😑
Ya think Fox Sports had something to say about ending the race - bank on it
Not sure if you're trolling but they don't have wet weather tires on 1.5s
They don't have rain tires for mile and a half's
Daytona 500, 2012
Trump was there because it was a FOX broadcast.
Kanan wasn't approved
Great I can listen to the hole show! No lip smacker on today!
It only took a week for her HANS to come loose.
Didn’t even hear 1 word, I call bullshit
If nascar is smart they will give larson his wavier if they dnt larson might just say ok fck u i will go race dirt make money have more fun nascar needs larson more then larson needs nascar an its not like larson missed the race to go to the chilli bowl he was trying to be great u cant start penalizing guys for trying to be great
Larson made the decision to stay at Indy, no waiver. It wasn't an accident that he didn't get to race in the 600.
You cant use a health issue as an excuse to run your mouth
I'm with Brett on the Larson waiver actually.
Need to talk about buba Wallace he stinks your show spoting stinks
Imagine having to deal with Chris rice on a daily basis. This guy stinks
They had him in the broadcast booth for a Cars Tour race a few weeks back. Absolutely awful.
Another Karen in the comments
@@larryhobbs8769 I’m a Karen because i think Chris rice arrogant dislikeable punchable face? I’ll be Karen then.
@@larryhobbs8769 imagine being this cocky and having a couple of Aj Allmendinger road course wins to stand your career on. lol.
If the double is a thing why don't they run Monday...
2311 needs to replace Bubba with noah and the 23 car will perform better
Whereever Rodney goes I'm betting he is taking Josh Berry with him
I think it's more the other way Rodney's going to go wherever Josh goes
@@johnhaas2523 nope they will be fighting for Rodney with all his experience Josh is a rookie but where ever he goes he'll need to produce right now
Let’s face it y’all of course truth be told YES for God sakes they we’re waiting for Kyle to make a Lap. Why the hell wouldn’t they for god sakes I mean realistically why wouldn’t they?? Kyle LARSON brings thousands of eye balls to the sport, views, fans ect. = $$ do I need to say more?? So yes quit crying they sure did wanna get the kid a lap that is a level above anyone on the track. Why the hell wouldn’t they I know I would for a business owner. Geez u guys act like he kept his points and shit… Such haters in my opinion and I like this show for targeting my guy Kyle I’ll opt out the next few weeks is all. Be sweat off my back!! So NASCAR you did good and was doing the right thing, just for last weekend now l, let’s not get ahead of ourselves now lol, but in my honest opinion y’all couldn’t have done anything better or different for what hand u we’re dealt!!
1st
Larson fan here… picking Indy over NASCAR SUUUUUUUCKED ASS!!!
Larson is highly overrated.....
41:18 bingo first time i ever agreed with brett larson shouldnt get a wavier he literally skipped the start of the 6000 his full time carrer learn the hard way