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A Heavy Civilization: The History of Finnish Heavy Metal

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    More than a film about Finnish Heavy Metal, the story is told by those who made it. Several of the biggest names of Finnish heavy metal share their views on society, religion, politics, and how an underground subculture became a vital country branding ambassador for Finland.
    Marco Hietala (Nightwish/Tarot), Gas Lipstick (former HIM, now Flat Earth/Hallatar), Lauri Porra (Stratovarius), Eicca Toppinen (Apocalyptica), and many other great names of Finnish heavy metal will take you into a journey, telling their memories on the scene and Finland since the ’80s.
    In the end, you may be able to decide: Is Finland a heavy metal country?
    Title: A Heavy Metal Civilization: The History of Finnish Heavy Metal
    Year: 2018
    Language: English
    Directed by Cristina Ornellas and Maila-Kaarina Rantanen
    Produced by: Cristina Ornellas and Maila-Kaarina Rantanen
    Edition and post-production: Bruno Leo Ribeiro
    Music & mixing: Bruno Leo Ribeiro
    Score Music: Juuso Raatikainen
    English captions: Heather Lusty
    Portuguese captions: Maila-Kaarina Rantanen
    German captions: Klaudia Weber
    Intro: Tarot, Wings of Darkness directed by Ville Lipiainen
    Featuring in order of appearance:
    Tommi Salmela, Marco Hietala, Niclas Etelävuori, Tony Kakko, Pasi Kauppinen, Jarkko Ahola, Mikael Karlbom, Toni-Mati Karjalainen, Henri Sorvali, Mika Luttinen, Mathias Nygård, Lauri Porra, Antti Wirman, Eicca Toppinen, Kjell Simosas, Mikko Kotamäki, JP Leppäluoto, Paolo Ribaldini, Sami&Kaisa Sundqvist, Kiko Loureiro, Scott Ian, Gas Lipstick.

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  • @smallfaucet
    @smallfaucet หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I can't really express what Finnish metal means to me and what it has become for me.....I do not really understand why i feel the way i do about Finnish music, but it calls to me and I must visit the country in 2026. Kiitos Suomi! \m/

  • @TyrInAsgard
    @TyrInAsgard 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Metal brought me and my Wife to Finland as well, from France, 6 years ago.
    Best decision of my life.

  • @finnishculturalchannel
    @finnishculturalchannel ปีที่แล้ว +12

    When talking about Finnish Metal pioneers, nobody mentioned Kimmo Kuusniemi (Sarcofagus). Kimmo predicted that Finnish Heavy Metal will never be big thing in Finland, so certainly he must have been there before anyone had made any significant impact in the Finnish Metal scene. Also Kirka and his sister Muska loved Hard Rock and Metal and both actually sang in Kimmo's band. Both could sing Metal. Kimmo Kuusniemi Band's album "Moottorilinnut" (Motor Birds) (1982) was the first Metal album sang in Finnish. When speaking about Finnish Rock bands, which were noticed abroad, Hurriganes was left unmentioned. The story tells that Hurriganes' guitarist Ile Kallio was considered by Paul McCartney to be the guitarist for his band Wings. Also the 70s Finnish Progressive Rock scene was noticed abroad. As were the late 70s early 80s Punk/Hardcore scene, which probably has something to do with the Finnish Metal bands being popular in Latin America and also partly in Japan. E.g. Max Cavalera of Sepultura has cited the Finnish Punk bands Terveet Kädet and Kaaos as some of his all-time favourite bands.

    • @metalmystro7513
      @metalmystro7513 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Excellent point and I have their 1980 debut on cassette as well and it's a shame they don't even get a shout out in their own country LOL

    • @ilves6664
      @ilves6664 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You are right. Sarcofacus must be said if we speak Finland metal and maybe those finnish hardcore/Punk bands Kaaos/Rattus/Terveet Kädet in South America doing good work that Finland bands knows all over the world. 😊

  • @sadekx5251
    @sadekx5251 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I was 20 yo in 1992 and I recall discovering Sentenced, Amorphis, Impaled nazarene and the mighty Waltari, which I hoped they talked about more on this show.

  • @kookoo9235
    @kookoo9235 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Stratovarius, one of the most underrated power metal bands of our time. They should be selling arenas just like Iron Maiden but sadly they are not.

    • @heavymetalcivilization9377
      @heavymetalcivilization9377  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Agree!!

    • @TheCrimsonShinigami
      @TheCrimsonShinigami ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agree. The documentary (which I liked very much, congrats!) underrates also them a little. Just to put their relevance into context nowadays. Right now, on Spotify by monthly listeners: Hanoi Rocks (204.934), Lordi (502.977), Sonata Arctica (538.663), Children of Bodom (937.022), HIM (1.022.051), Stratovarius (1.067.158).

  • @Rancid-Jane
    @Rancid-Jane ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thank you Finland, for your gift, to the world.

  • @sirenasummers2599
    @sirenasummers2599 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Amazing documentary, I was inroduced to Finnish metal through Nightwish and there are so many amzing bands. Have a soft spot for Marco he seems like such a genuine person, with really strong personal morals which he sticks with.

    • @heavymetalcivilization9377
      @heavymetalcivilization9377  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Marco is indeed a genuine person. We love him! We are very glad to know that you enjoyed our film. Thank you!

    • @frensesia
      @frensesia ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@heavymetalcivilization9377 If you ever get a chance to talk or interwiev Jari Mäenpää there is another demon of metal.

  • @darrylwebb3625
    @darrylwebb3625 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I've enjoyed watching this. Finland has been punching above its weight in music for years. Marco's last comment says it all : Finland's musicians play what they want to play, which makes it authentic, not manufactured. When grunge came along in the '90s I gave up on music. I re-discovered music 10 years ago and most of what I've listened to ever since is from Finland. Kiitos Finland!!

  • @ttiwaz4398
    @ttiwaz4398 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Even though Bomfunk mc's is not metal at all but they were hugely admired by many metal musicians. HIM, Nightwish, Apocalyptica as metal bands. Darude. They were one of those first finnish bands which became big abroad. It gave inspiration for finnish bands that you actually can get big and famous even if you come from a very small population european country. Music industry here got interested that you actually can get money out of this business. So we started to export music. I remember well that time era.

  • @ilves6664
    @ilves6664 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    First metal band in Finland we cannot speak without Sarcofacus 😮 Envoy of death 😮 Sarcofacus vocals was Hannu Leiden she play guitar/and vocal after Havana Black 😮

  • @sp00kyd0ll
    @sp00kyd0ll 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Amazing job! 😍Waited for this to be available on YT for so long! The wait is over! Thanks and greetings from this argentinian who loves finnish metal and finland! 🇫🇮❤️🇦🇷🤘🏻

    • @heavymetalcivilization9377
      @heavymetalcivilization9377  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Dear Romina, we are very happy to read your feedback and know that you enjoyed the documentary. Please, spread it to your friends and ask them to subscribe to our channel. This is the only way our job could pay off a bit. Cheers from Finland!

  • @VivK-Real
    @VivK-Real ปีที่แล้ว +8

    As a little girls in Finland, early/mid 80's, my sister and I got 2 c-cassets from our grandpa and grandma...
    Iron Maiden- The number of the Beast and AC/DC- Back in Black. That's how it started 😁🇫🇮

  • @kv6uf
    @kv6uf 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I was a 90's Green Day and Offspring kid, but 1996 Sentenced - Noose changed it all for me. My family grew more worried as I grew more into this culture, I witnessed the early Nightwish, Children of Bodom, Amorphis, HIM, Insomnium etc. gigs and have the early demos from Finnish metal bands like Moonsorrow and Fintroll. 1999 was a golden year. My mother wished it was a phase, but it wasn't. Metal is my lifestyle still in 2024 when I'm a middle-aged woman working my corporate career.

  • @mikkosorja8423
    @mikkosorja8423 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Moottorilinnut is an album by Kimmo Kuusniemi Band. Originally Kuusniemi's band was called Sarcophagus, and they released two albums at the very beginning of the '80's. Moottorilinnut features various vocalists, among which the most well-known are Kirill "Kirka" Babitzin (who also released two quality hard rock albums R.O.C.K. and The Spell despite having been one of the most popular pop singers in Finland from the '60's) and his sister Muska Babitzin.

  • @hondolane7929
    @hondolane7929 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I‘m from Germany and the first finish bands I remember listening to were Nightwish and Lordi. And not from Gandprix, The monsterican dream was and is one of my favorite albums. My absolute favorite finish band is Ensiferum. Even went this year to Nummirock to see them. What an amazing festival. And I absolutely love Finland. I have already the ticket for next year.

    • @heavymetalcivilization9377
      @heavymetalcivilization9377  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What a great testimonial! We hope you have an awesome stay in Finland

    • @hondolane7929
      @hondolane7929 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@heavymetalcivilization9377 thank you very much. I‘m sure i will. Metal festival is always like meeting family even if it‘s meeting for the first time.

  • @grindstressor
    @grindstressor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Awesome job, Mailinha & Cristina! I´ve learned a lot about the finnish Metal begginnings and its main characters! Didn´t know Marco Hietala was that important for Finnish Metal. And haven´t heard about "Stone" til now. Gas said it all at the end. I´m writing in english for "all people" to read. Parabéns pelo ótimo trabalho. \,,/ Cheers from Rio! Delacroix.

  • @batphink2655
    @batphink2655 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I had no idea Marko could sing like that wow great sound!

  • @nonflyingfinn2173
    @nonflyingfinn2173 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I remember Mika Luttinen singing Total Satan with The Crown back in 2000 in Tuska. Good times.

  • @masahanamura5340
    @masahanamura5340 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Hello from Japan! Sentenced is forgotten? They should be included in one of the Finnish metal pioneers, in my opinion.

    • @heavymetalcivilization9377
      @heavymetalcivilization9377  ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Hello Masa! Nobody from Sentenced wished to participate on the doc. We certainly tried. And I wouldn't say they are pioneers. When they came out there was already a scene. They were part of this scene for sure, it is an awesome band and they have an important history. But the documentary was built mainly by the artists' opinions and nobody seemed to think of Sentenced as a pioneer. Please, don't get us wrong, we LOVE sentenced and we are aware of their importance, but without anybody from the band to say something, there was no space to simply mention them or tell their story. We hope you enjoyed the documentary!

    • @Vasilis_Metalhead
      @Vasilis_Metalhead ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@heavymetalcivilization9377 Hello from Hellas! From our perspective it was Amorphis, Sentenced and Impaled Nazarene who made us turn our ears towards Finland. Stratovarius reached us after the mid 90s with the release of "Fourth Dimension" mainly, before that they were pretty much obscure. As for Tarot, most people found out about them, after Nightwish's explosion in the late 90s and then came Children Of Bodom and took the world by storm! Very sad that nobody from Sentenced wished to participate.

    • @teosto1384
      @teosto1384 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Kjell did briefly mention Sentenced along with Amorphis. IMO with Sentenced releasing their first album at the start of the 90's they were among the first ones especially with their sound being a step towards the Finnish metal sound, albeit their bigger albums only came out from 95 onwards.
      Overall Sentenced is a band that never got the appreciation it deserved, especially outside the scene. Guess the lyrics were slightly darker than expected for mainstream so they barely got any spotlight in their direction.

    • @ArchieArpeggio
      @ArchieArpeggio ปีที่แล้ว

      @@heavymetalcivilization9377 Bullshit. When Sentenced releast them first album 1991 just like Amorphis. Those were two pioneers of death metal in Finland that was very underground music at that time. At that time Swedish death metal was still forming in Göteborg as At The Gates recorted them first ep at 1991 releasing first album in 1992.
      Of course the first album from both sucked and sounds were poor but both bands released killer album as second album. North From Here and Tales From a Thousand Lakes were musicly great and production and sound was way more better. There weren´t much of a scene for death (or black) metal in anywhere at that time. There started to come somekind of scene in the middle 90´s and by that time both bands had got softer. Sentenced changed singer to Ville Laihiala and recorded Down in 1996 as them fourth album and Amorphis recruited Pasi Koskinen for a new singer in to Elegy that was third release at the same year 1996. After that both bands got famous in Finland propably for the reason that those both bands got some tv-time in popular youngster show Jyrki. Noose was big hit of Sentenced with music video and Against Widows did the same for Amorphis.
      After that both bands sould themself out and got more softer i draw the line about there ditched both bands for years...

  • @mikkosorja8423
    @mikkosorja8423 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Tarot and Zero Nine were definitely one of the first Finnish Heavy Metal acts, but there were also others before or at the same time; Moottorilinnut (by Kimmo Kuusniemi) (many times considered to be the very first heavy metal band in Finland), OZ, Riff Raff, Iron Cross, Stud, just to name a few. Also domestic thrash metal was alive and well in Finland at the end of the '80's/very early 90's: Stone, Airdash, Prestige, National Napalm Syndicate, A.R.G., Faff-Bey, etc.

  • @ardeshirrhi1283
    @ardeshirrhi1283 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    HIM, Nightwish and Children of Bodom. These 3 bands made Finland world famous in metal scene.

    • @klaytonmayeaux8966
      @klaytonmayeaux8966 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I still hate that Tarot never took off back then because their early albums are amazing! To Live Forever is still a MASTERPIECE in my eyes!

    • @TheCrimsonShinigami
      @TheCrimsonShinigami ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Already was by then, thanks to Stratovarius.

  • @end0skeleton404
    @end0skeleton404 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    As an American, I of course heard of Children of Bodom before I heard of Amorphis, who has become my favorite Finnish Metal band. Found them while reading the Kalevala. Fate? maybe. Coincidence? maybe.

    • @heavymetalcivilization9377
      @heavymetalcivilization9377  ปีที่แล้ว

      Great to know that you're a fan of Finnish metal bands! Thank you for passing by and leaving your comment.

  • @westernfreedom5031
    @westernfreedom5031 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Great video! In Canada, for me and people I know, our awareness of the Finnish metal bands really came about with Fintroll, Ensiferum and Korpiklaani and the whole folk metal thing.

  • @TeemarkConvair
    @TeemarkConvair ปีที่แล้ว +13

    and Marco stays honest with himself, "avoid the mainstream, and their fucking business!"

    • @heavymetalcivilization9377
      @heavymetalcivilization9377  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Marco is the most authentic person. He is super honest and open. Thank you for passing by and leaving your comment to support us!

  • @othrerir_jussi
    @othrerir_jussi ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great documentary. I always say Scandinavian and Finnish musicians are top notch.
    🤘🏻Cheers from the US

  • @ninaj6051
    @ninaj6051 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    WOW Thank you for this!!! I just came upon it, and Finland is my favorite country, with most of my favorite bands. In fact, their music is what interested me in the country in the first place, a long time ago.

    • @heavymetalcivilization9377
      @heavymetalcivilization9377  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much for leaving this comment, you cannot imagine how happy we are to read it.

  • @LickeyWebster
    @LickeyWebster ปีที่แล้ว +6

    A lot of good voices here, with years of knowledge and history behind them. Seeing Gas close it out feels good, too. I love H.I.M. just as much as Beherit, Imp Naz, Bodom, Amorphis, Cosmic Church, Moonsorrow, Rapture, Yearning, Havukruunu, etc..
    Oh, and Reverend Bizzarre, Hooded Menace, Unholy, Skepticism, Shape of Despair, Thergothon...

    • @heavymetalcivilization9377
      @heavymetalcivilization9377  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We've very happy to know that you liked our documentary and that we could bring so many of your favorite names up. And you're right about Gas. After the interview we were sure that closing would be perfect.

    • @Dexusaz
      @Dexusaz ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Some awesome bands you mentioned there. Finland truly has some of the best Metal ever, Nordic countries do in general.

    • @frensesia
      @frensesia ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hooded Menace - Arcane Epitaph is just a masterpiece .

  • @andybarber8898
    @andybarber8898 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Marco without that forked beard is freaking me out but what an awesome documentary, thank you for this!

  • @raquelmiranda3477
    @raquelmiranda3477 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Brilliant documentary!!! This summer I'm going to Finland, Helsinki to explore the city and hope to find some great albums there, especially a Nightwish book I've been looking for.

  • @jupehe5703
    @jupehe5703 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Sarcofagus and OZ were the first Heavy bands in Finland and that's the truth of the History of Finnish Heavy Metal. Zero Nine and others came later.

    • @jarhan1016
      @jarhan1016 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, with Sarcofagus and The Oz, Hard Rock Sallinen and Iron Cross as well...

    • @necrosadotor
      @necrosadotor ปีที่แล้ว +2

      obviously. kimmo kuusniemi done it

  • @ilesalmo7724
    @ilesalmo7724 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    It's funny how Hanoi Rocks started the hair-metal genre when they went to LA

  • @tarmoniemi4183
    @tarmoniemi4183 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Giants of rock festival was legendary!

  • @BaerndXP
    @BaerndXP ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Mika mentioning Henry as the Face of Finnish Metal.

  • @jonathanlafey4988
    @jonathanlafey4988 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    For me is strange that almost nothing speak over Timo Tolkki importance and fundamental role in that scene

    • @Mandilore89
      @Mandilore89 ปีที่แล้ว

      I can see why you think that (and for the most part, I do agree with you). However, I knew Timo Tolkki personally at one time so I know the real reasons why they didn't talk about his importance: because Tolkki is a mentally unstable narcissistic liar! He's an abusive thieving perverted piece of human shit! I do agree we can't ignore the impact he did have but I also know they don't want to talk/deal with that guy anymore! I still work with one of his old assistants. The vibe I got from him is (and Zachary Hietala regarding Tarot's old guitarist Mako), when they're done with you, they're DONE! They want to move on! It might be the Finnish way (I'm American so I don't truly know if it is and never discussed it with my Finn friends). To many Finnish musicians, this is likely how he's seen in their eyes.

  • @AdolfoSalinasP
    @AdolfoSalinasP ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is a very good documentary. You made a great job.
    For me there is one first very important international successful band: STRATOVARIUS, maybe the first finnish metal band touring around the world. And afer them there are a lot of finnish metal bands touring around the world but there is one band even more successful than STRATOVARIUS: NIGHTWISH. In terms of international impact just NIGHTWISH could overcome the international impact of STRATOVARIUS.
    I must be honest: Before metal music, I almost didn´t know there's a country called Finland. Music is culture and you can learn a lot from it.
    Hugs from Chile.

    • @heavymetalcivilization9377
      @heavymetalcivilization9377  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, Stradivarius was the first Finnish band to tour outside Europe. They were the first ones to tour in Latin America and Asia. For sure they are trailblazers for the other bands. Thank you so much for enjoying our documentary!

  • @0ktober
    @0ktober ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Another thing about Finland (and Sweden, too) that isn't exactly well-known is that the early D-Beat / HC punk developed even more aggressive in the north. For example, Terveet Kädet made a huge impact around the world in the underground circles, which eventually spawned big bands like Sepultura, Metallica, Pantera etc. I read some old interviews where these guys actually mention the band as an influence. Terveet Kädet had such an aggressive and chaotic sound, which pretty much already had the rawness of early black metal and the speed and attitude of the slowly growing thrash scene around the world. Something people either don't know or have already forgot about.

    • @heavymetalcivilization9377
      @heavymetalcivilization9377  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes! Finnish punk deserves a documentary for sure. Finnish punk bands traveled the world and had a large number of fans in countries no Finnish artist had ever been to. We hope someday someone makes this film.

  • @BlastBeatFC
    @BlastBeatFC 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How did I just nkw find this? This is great!

  • @batphink2655
    @batphink2655 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Sorry I forgot to leave a comment,thus was a very interesting documentary and now I'm gonna check out some Finnish metal starting with Tarot!

    • @Empirism
      @Empirism ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great band and big repertoire to start with, also if ya interested different type of metal than Thrash, you could check out Whispered for example too. Happy exploring :)

    • @heavymetalcivilization9377
      @heavymetalcivilization9377  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much, Batphink 2!

    • @heavymetalcivilization9377
      @heavymetalcivilization9377  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you, Empirism, for being so nice giving tips. ;)

  • @Aleksilausti
    @Aleksilausti ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tämä oli hyvin mielenkiintoinen ja musiikkihistoriallisestikin tärkeä dokkari. Kiitos tekijöille.

  • @corinna007
    @corinna007 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Seeing my two favourite Finnish musicians (master Eicca Toppinen and king JP Leppäluoto) makes me happy. ❤️

  • @elaine0kada
    @elaine0kada 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Que foda!
    Vocês fizeram um trabalho incrível! Da pra perceber o quanto se dedicaram pra fazer esse doc, e quanto carinho foi colocado nele!
    Eu amei conhecer os detalhes da cena desde o início, deu mais vontade de se aprofundar no metal finlandês
    🔥🔥🔥🤘🏻

  • @gil8204
    @gil8204 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excelente documentário! Um dos melhores que já tive oportunidade de assistir! Parabéns pelo trabalho 👏👏👏🤘🤘

  • @brandonharris9160
    @brandonharris9160 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Where is Kalmah, HIM, Norther, Ensiferum, Wintersun, Children of Bodom, Thy Serpent, Impaled Nazarene, Finntroll, Korpiklaani, Rotten Sound, Mors Principium EST? there's so much AMAZING music not listed. Finland is my favorite after discovering all this music upon Alexi Laiho passing. Please consider updating the title

    • @cguerrilla7315
      @cguerrilla7315 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This was so bad ...
      Jarkko Ahola...What the ..fff ? Apocalyptica? Really? Tarot?! Lordi ...? (facepalm)
      "Heavy metal/rock" didn't make Finland a metal country. Other genres did.
      What makes Jarkko Ahola a "finnish metal expert"? Teräsbetoni was a joke, and now he sings pretty covers and christmas songs in tv¨-shows.
      ...
      Ahola: "Heavy metal is pretty boring" "There has to be something new"...(another facepalm)
      Well, Jarkko (and the makers of this film) (and why not every metal fan) should listen to Vorna, Moonsorrow, Shade Empire, Insomnium, Mors Subita, Paara, Wintersun, Kaunis Kuolematon, Amorphis, Eartheria, Mokoma, Stam1na, Sotajumala (and those you mentioned) and many more, to get the REAL picture of what makes finnish metal so great. And of course Nightwish. Because it is Nightwish.

    • @ilikevideos4868
      @ilikevideos4868 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kalmah guys live almost 700km from Helsinki (which is where I assume they did these interviews)

    • @ThaBeatConductor
      @ThaBeatConductor ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I haven't watched this yet, but did they really not mention Children of Bodom? Other than Nightwish, Children of Bodom is the band most responsible for putting Finland on the map outside of Europe. Not to mention CoB basically invented Melodic Death Metal.

    • @ilikevideos4868
      @ilikevideos4868 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThaBeatConductor they did mention bodom and HIM at least, and there was a guy from finntroll

    • @heavymetalcivilization9377
      @heavymetalcivilization9377  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I think you should consider watching the documentary with more attention to see many of the names you've mentioned also mentioned. Also, to see that this is not a doc about the bands. This is a doc about the Finnish scene being build and metal becoming mainstream in the country. All the bands you've mentioned are important but not all of them can be considered trailblazers for metal becoming mainstream. The story here is told by some of the most representative Finnish rockstars that are mainstream and responsible for the scene to grow and Finland be known as a metal country in the world.HIM and COB are mentioned as some of the most important bands to make Finnish metal known in the world. And being honest, HIM isn't even a metal band... Impaled Nazarene: haven't you seen Mika's interview? Fintroll: there's a member of Finntrol interviewed. Some of the bands you've mentioned might be representative for you, but they are not representative for the rise up go Finland as a metal country that happened from 1996 to be first part of 2000's.

  • @smallfaucet
    @smallfaucet ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Children of Bodom is my favorite from Finland......and many others I like a lot. \m/

  • @keko4618
    @keko4618 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Heavy rock is the last castle off rock. When everything else collapses, they stand still. Amazing everyone from there comes new attack.

  • @jukkaovaskainen
    @jukkaovaskainen ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hyvä dokkari 👍

  • @gilleslebrun4067
    @gilleslebrun4067 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    J'aime la scène metal finlandaise ! I love finish metal scene ! Terveiset ranskata 🇨🇵

  • @smallfaucet
    @smallfaucet ปีที่แล้ว

    That intermitent guitar riff during the pause breaks was crackin me up haha

  • @RazielKainus
    @RazielKainus ปีที่แล้ว +2

    future? very bright - Stratovarius just hit it big again with Survive, a heavy contender for album of the year, then you have Excalion doing new CD next year... Beast In Black and Battle Beast doing awesome job at popularizing heavy metal everywhere... and of course, Nightwish might release another thing next year (I LOVED Human :II: Nature)... so yea :)

    • @heavymetalcivilization9377
      @heavymetalcivilization9377  ปีที่แล้ว

      For sure 2022 has seen great releases! It seems that the wave down is finally coming up again. But in 2018 when this documentary was released we were in different moment.

  • @1979er
    @1979er ปีที่แล้ว +8

    hello from germany!🤘

  • @Kvasaari
    @Kvasaari ปีที่แล้ว +5

    There are many excellent metal bands in Finland. And then there is Nightwish, the crown jewel.

  • @-CrippledNinja-
    @-CrippledNinja- ปีที่แล้ว +20

    You could've shrunk this documentary to just: "Oh yeah, the bass player for stratovarius is a descendant of Jean Sibelius" and left it there. 🤣

    • @asko2368
      @asko2368 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      It´s impossible to make a documentary about music that satisfies everyone, isn't it?

    • @heavymetalcivilization9377
      @heavymetalcivilization9377  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Asko Exactly!

  • @viniciushenri1892
    @viniciushenri1892 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    great documentary

  • @the_nightfaring
    @the_nightfaring ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's an interesting documentary ... I remember Sarcofagus "Cycle of life" and "Envoy of death" dating back in the 80s before Stone. Maybe not heavy metal as we do now know it but that should be the beginning in Suomi. Btw nothing to do with heavy metal but I do like Värttinä as well! 🤘

  • @steveopc81
    @steveopc81 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing documentary!

  • @renatomarques1213
    @renatomarques1213 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Muito bom o documentário!!! Estão de parabéns!!!

  • @luismaciel7463
    @luismaciel7463 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I lived in Finland in 1999. It was an overdose of ABBA everywhere

    • @incumbentvinyl9291
      @incumbentvinyl9291 ปีที่แล้ว

      ABBA?...

    • @luismacielcosta8845
      @luismacielcosta8845 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@incumbentvinyl9291 Yeah (c:

    • @incumbentvinyl9291
      @incumbentvinyl9291 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@luismacielcosta8845 I was there. Saw nothing of this sort anywhere.

    • @luismacielcosta8845
      @luismacielcosta8845 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@incumbentvinyl9291 I did, on radios, on stores, on restaurants, etc. That's my experience.

  • @the_nightfaring
    @the_nightfaring ปีที่แล้ว +2

    About Finnish heavy metal.... Does anyone know if there's a chance to get Sarcofagus "Back from the valley of the kings" and the 79-82 anthology?

  • @luxilahtinen7597
    @luxilahtinen7597 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What comes to the Finnish REAL Metal festivals, there's no mention of Jalometalli Metal Music festival that was held annually in Oulu, Finland... (read more: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jalometalli_Metal_Music_Festival). It's just too bad the festival is no more...

  • @rentasrecords
    @rentasrecords ปีที่แล้ว

    Excelente doc! Mas do que isso: um serviço cultural! O único problema é que acaba kkk Parabéns tbm pela edição! Tudo muito bom! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼🇫🇮🤘🏼

    • @heavymetalcivilization9377
      @heavymetalcivilization9377  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Muito obrigada. Sua mensagem nos deixa muito felizes. Tem muito amor nesse trabalho. Um abraço!

  • @mrlizardtx
    @mrlizardtx ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This year I've seen Timo Tolkki, Beast in Black, and Steve n Seagulls, and I'm hoping for US tours for Battle Beast and Lordi.

  • @khrawkuparnonglaitvevo7429
    @khrawkuparnonglaitvevo7429 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great Finland

  • @oldmanjimh3165
    @oldmanjimh3165 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video.

  • @odjaur
    @odjaur ปีที่แล้ว +4

    only one band matters from finland and that is ofc SENTENCED especially amok album!

    • @ilikevideos4868
      @ilikevideos4868 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      North From Here is my absolute favourite death metal album

  • @ilikevideos4868
    @ilikevideos4868 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Why does Scott Ian have to be in every single documentary ever?

    • @TrueMeHow
      @TrueMeHow ปีที่แล้ว +1

      it's simple - without him it doesn't count

    • @RockyRMR
      @RockyRMR ปีที่แล้ว

      He needs money. He has a good agent.

    • @ilikevideos4868
      @ilikevideos4868 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RockyRMR I don't think he needs money

  • @woodward_alan
    @woodward_alan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Learned a lot!

  • @NorgGrimm
    @NorgGrimm ปีที่แล้ว +4

    5:30 "Usually the quality of the sound was SCHSHCHSCSHCHSCHSCHSHCS."
    5:45 "SCHSCHSCHSHCSHCSHSC speeech SCHSCHSCHSCHSHCHSHSCHSCH more speech"

    • @InfantShredder69
      @InfantShredder69 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i really hope that was intentional because its hilarious

  • @Jusbex21
    @Jusbex21 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    What about finnish death metal? Finnish doom?

  • @kratosboy3942
    @kratosboy3942 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    MARKO HIETALA!!!!!!😆

  • @taaviinhuu
    @taaviinhuu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    muito legal! parabéns!!!

  • @juniorsilvaabreu
    @juniorsilvaabreu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Muito bom 🤘🏻

  • @RolandDeschain1
    @RolandDeschain1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I desperately want Charon to reform.

  • @jonny_apocalypseii1051
    @jonny_apocalypseii1051 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    makes this irish guitarist want to move to helsinki!

  • @JayBeBerg
    @JayBeBerg ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I don't really buy this climate and temperament theory. We have 4 seasons and beautiful nature all around.
    The fact is, metal from Finland is believable and the kids realized that. Compare that to finnish Country or Pop music from the 80's and 90's. You couldn't sell that to anyone outside Finland. Metal was a real global youth movement that you could be part of. And luckily, cookie-monster growling made the bad English irrelevant.

    • @heavymetalcivilization9377
      @heavymetalcivilization9377  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hi,Maila here! I agree with you in several points. I don't think the climate is the reason for metal to outstand in Finland. I think it's more about being believable and truth to yourself. But I do think that the long dark months give a little help to melancholy and make us more fond of strong music. But I wouldn't say this is the main reason either. However, the documentary shows the artists opinions ;). Thank you for passing by.

  • @marcio_produtor
    @marcio_produtor ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Abraço !!!🇵🇹🇧🇷

  • @Empirism
    @Empirism ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Shared

  • @tomioffinland
    @tomioffinland ปีที่แล้ว +11

    It's funny that the name of the documentary is A Heavy Metal Civilization: The History of Finnish Heavy Metal and only one Finnish heavy metal band, Tarot, is mentioned in it.
    What Hietala says about Tarot and the scene of the 80s is still quite true even today.
    In Finland, hardly anyone plays or talks about heavy metal. Heavy metal is not the same thing as metal. Heavy metal is still really underground, and you hardly see any bands playing heavy metal at any Finnish gigs or festivals.
    All heavy metal is metal, but not all metal is heavy metal.

    • @kanervatie
      @kanervatie ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nii just saatana! Koska On the Rocksiin?

    • @artofstormdancing3319
      @artofstormdancing3319 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Heavy metal is nowadays a term that can mean the whole metal family or just the one genre, often called classic heavy nowadays. Heavy metal is the grandfather of all metal music, thus giving it's name to the metal family (family name, ehh?).

    • @bmay81
      @bmay81 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No they mention a lot more of you watch the whole thing!

  • @joaogabrieldiasvieira1322
    @joaogabrieldiasvieira1322 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    👏👏🤘

  • @Lari-wz4yr
    @Lari-wz4yr ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Harmi jos tämä jää historiaan ainoana teoksena aiheesta Suomimetalli. Mahtoiko olla joku mediakurssin opinnäytetyö?

    • @heavymetalcivilization9377
      @heavymetalcivilization9377  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Meille harmi on kun ihmiset pitävät niin paljon valittamisesta ja kritisoinnista sen sijaan, että näkisivät asiat positiivisesti tai sen sijaan, että kääriisivät hihan ja tekisivät jotain parempaa.
      Tarkoituksenamme ei ole koskaan ollut olla ainoa lähde, vaan avata ovia lisää. Ole hyvä!

    • @Anttimation
      @Anttimation ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kritisointi on helppoa, ja siihen pystyy kuka tahansa. Harva menee ja tekee itse jotain.

    • @KaiMarcad
      @KaiMarcad ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "Finland - Promised Land of Heavy Metal" on toinen dokkari aiheesta vuodelta 2008.

    • @nervanderi
      @nervanderi ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No eikös se ole meidän tehtävä levittää tätä hienoa dokumenttia!? NW taitaa olla jo maailmanennätys lukemissa?

  • @TRtherocknroller
    @TRtherocknroller ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Randomly stumbled into this on youtube and then saw myself at @24:47 ( I'm the one in the wheelchair, bottom left)

  • @eerohorila1109
    @eerohorila1109 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    1:19 Thank you. Metallica stole that riff from Stone.

  • @damiansanchez7873
    @damiansanchez7873 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Metalhead: we only wanna live by noise and being so noisy.

  • @lassikungas760
    @lassikungas760 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "and something like that"😉

  • @roberthuismans3533
    @roberthuismans3533 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    TAROT!

  • @SalmxZ
    @SalmxZ ปีที่แล้ว +2

    18:10 song?

    • @lukitcho14
      @lukitcho14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi! This was made especially for the documentary.

  • @Charles_Anthony
    @Charles_Anthony ปีที่แล้ว +8

    No love for Children of Bodom, huh?

    • @texdillinger6173
      @texdillinger6173 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There is some media drama about Bodom right now, after other band members washed dirty laundry publically about Laiho. I don't think members of band wanted to draw more attention.

    • @Charles_Anthony
      @Charles_Anthony ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@texdillinger6173: I've been a fan of Bodom for over 20 years. These clowns are milking what's left of Alexi for money. Still, it's hard to believe the documentary was basically "Nightwish this" and that when Bodom was a huge force in the global arena on the opposite end of the metal spectrum. Yeah, at the time the producers probably couldn't get Alexi or some other member of the band since this documentary was made in 2019, but they couldn't even mention the group? It's really hard to believe how people have forgotten about Alexi's impact.

    • @heavymetalcivilization9377
      @heavymetalcivilization9377  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Hello, Maila here. Children of Bodom is actually my favorite band and Christina also loves them. Of course we wanted someone from the band to be in the doc but, unfortunately, none of them wanted to. But if you watched it, they are mentioned several times during the film, their importance is there, and Alexi is even mentioned as the face of Finnish heavy metal by some of the artists.

    • @heavymetalcivilization9377
      @heavymetalcivilization9377  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      No member of COB wanted to participate. We tried for two years. And documentary isn't basically Nightwish this... Nightwish is mentioned by the artists the same way as COB. Marco Hietala has a great spot in the doc but it isn't because of Nightwish. It's because he is is one of the founders of the Finnish metal scene, way before Nightwish even existed. The Finnish artists themselves drove the documentary. It is all based on their opinions, their experiences and their own stories.

    • @frensesia
      @frensesia ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@heavymetalcivilization9377 I agree on this and Nightwish is the most popular metal band from Finland ..CoB is known by HEAVY metal fans.

  • @Vehaska
    @Vehaska ปีที่แล้ว

    Zachary Hietala Tarpt’s guitar mannen…

  • @TRtherocknroller
    @TRtherocknroller ปีที่แล้ว

    No Scott it hadn't made a comeback, it had just arrived

  • @jukkaramo3351
    @jukkaramo3351 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Sarcofagus anyone?

    • @ArchieArpeggio
      @ArchieArpeggio ปีที่แล้ว

      Ei tainnu hirveen moneen iskee. Muutenkin vähän niin ja näin olisko ennemminkin hard rock genree. Vähän kuin sekotus purplee ja priestii.

    • @necrosadotor
      @necrosadotor ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ArchieArpeggio nyt on pakko sanoo et vitut, envoy of deathilta löytyy jo black metal riffiäki, vika biisi. vaikka ei ne sitä tienny sillon

    • @ArchieArpeggio
      @ArchieArpeggio ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@necrosadotor en montaa biisiä jaksanut edes kuunnella kun loppui mielenkiinto saati, että koko tuotantoo olisin ruvennut kahlaamaan läpi. Kun ei iskenyt niin ei iskenyt.

    • @necrosadotor
      @necrosadotor ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ArchieArpeggio eihä siinä sit

  • @PauleraCast
    @PauleraCast ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Like 666. I have a screenshot I can prove.

  • @ceylancenani7797
    @ceylancenani7797 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    torilla tavataan!

  • @incumbentvinyl9291
    @incumbentvinyl9291 ปีที่แล้ว

    ''Duska''
    Haha!

  • @m8rte
    @m8rte ปีที่แล้ว

    What is Kiko doing here? Wheres VV? Oh sure, HIM is not metal enough. This is what annoys me about these guys, they are só close minded. The hell with what kind of média you sell, the content is what matters. I agree with that guy though, heavy metal is getting boring. Its kinda ironic to think that a style of music that has ar least 50 subgenres just feels outdated no matter what. Thats what got me into HIM. All the clássical metal riffs with rock and pop love songs? Felt fresh at the time. Children of boddom very good as well. But they certainly need something new. Unfortunatly, Im guessing the USA Will have to come up with new vibes for the rest of the world to follow, as always.
    Anyway, good doc, thank you

    • @bkemeny92
      @bkemeny92 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kiko lives in Finland.

    • @m8rte
      @m8rte ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bkemeny92 i know but hes no finnish metal band so

    • @heavymetalcivilization9377
      @heavymetalcivilization9377  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Kiko is in the documentary in a part called GLOBAL IMPACT where people from abroad who are connected to Finland talk about their impression on Finland being a metal country.

  • @magnuswettermark8293
    @magnuswettermark8293 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Zero Nine,Sacrofagus,Riff Raff,OZ,Peer Gynt....!?

    • @frensesia
      @frensesia ปีที่แล้ว +6

      im glad we have too many bands to even name in one video.

    • @McSlobo
      @McSlobo ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Is Peer Günt metal? Marco talks about them around 2:20.

    • @magnuswettermark8293
      @magnuswettermark8293 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      McSlobo. In my world they are. Its like Motörhead..heavy Rock n roll. Finlands best band in my humble opinion. Rock n roll😁🤘

    • @antcommander1367
      @antcommander1367 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@McSlobo Peer Günt 1st heavy rock band and 1 of 2 finnish (western) bands to visit North Korea in 1989, other one was sielun veljet. as part of cultural exchange program.

  • @lubosbartos6256
    @lubosbartos6256 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    71 Metall finský je super ale chybali mi tam Korpiklani

    • @nnbmx
      @nnbmx ปีที่แล้ว

      Completely, part 2 with Korpiklaani needed