As ive always said...it doesn't matter where it's made, its to who's standards it's made to is what actually matters (the manufacturer/designer). There's plenty of decent stuff manufactured in China, and plenty of junk manufacturered in the US and vise versa
@@davidleary823 I don't agree with stealing designs, but that is irrelevant to my comment as the point still stands, I was talking more along the lines of stuff made in China designed by/sold under an American brand. 99% of the stuff in Walmart was made in China and it's perfectly fine. And as far as China VS American...have no preference, never cared honestly. Only bias I have is Japanese and German when it comes to my tools, household equipment, cars and so on...if possible that's who I buy from.
Uh, lest we forget... China's most infamous export was COVID. I lost a very good hotrodding buddy of many years to that engineered bug. So, reward them with your business if you want but, some of us remember.
why do people do reviews on things before actually testing them? it's been proven(mostly by the chinese) that stuff can look fine or even good but perform poorly when in use. basically who knows, the thing could crack before the intake bolts are tight, some chinese aluminum seems to be swiss cheese.
This is only an initial impression, I absolutely will make another video of installation and performance. Performance wise....it'll probably be ok considering it's going on swirl port tbi heads on a fairly mild 350. If it had afr 190s, then yeah I'd stick a real edelbrock on it.
That's a surprisingly good looking manifold for something Chinese made. Two things I would be looking at before I fit it. The first one is gasket to port match (iengine and carb sides). Often on cheap knock off products, poor alignment can be a huge issue. The other thing is you don't know what it is cast out of, so you probably want to make sure that it has some inhibitor in it at all times to prevent corrosion.
I have a similar Chinese made intake. Check all the runners on each port. I found a bunch of casting flash down in the runners. Used a screwdriver and pencil grinder to clean it all out.
The biggest problem with Chinese manufacturing isn't the looks, it's the lack of consistency in meeting tolerances. So, things like flash being left in the runners, or port shift(both mentioned by others already here), should be checked. Also, something not as easy to check, port flow. I saw a machinist folw one of these and the variance from one cylinder to the next was twice what it is on an Edelbrock. The flow was also an average of around 20cfm lower per port, compared to the Edelbrock. It was still pretty good, but those things matter...
I actually sent back the edelbrock because the machine work was so bad I couldn’t put one of the mount bolts in. The china manifold was finished much better.
Should do the business. As with a lot of Chinese cylinder heads I see the machining is really pretty damn good. Its the quality of the alloy they use that is the biggest issue. Stick to around 30-40% coolant in the water and they are fine. Above that and the alloy seems to degrade a bit quicker than one would expect.
Also only use distilled water (like 36 cents a gallon at grocery store) when you do your coolant blend so you don't introduce any minerals into system. Everything from pump to radiator will remain clean. Been doing this since the late 90's and all still clean.
I am using for 3 years Chev SB China made heads with not a problem. These are 68 CC chambers - 202 - 160 values and I bought the heads as bare heads, so all parts put are US made. This is on a 383 stroker - 6 inch rods and made for a work truck I pull a 30-foot jet boat back and forth from Oregon to Alaska. The machine shop that did the work said the engine is 450+ HP . My 1 ton Truck the 383 replaced a 454 so the 383 is doing a very good job comparable to the 454. That 3.75 stroke and 6 inch rods made a perfect pulling truck engine for long hauling over mountain grades.
@@LygerTheCLaw Another benefit of coolant! But I will still not introduce minerals into my vehicles with zero corrosion in cooling system after all these years, nothing strange about it.
If you haven’t already, I would take a straight edge and check the mating surfaces on the ports and the top and make sure it’s all straight. But good score sir!!👍👍👊👊
When I built my small block Chevy many years ago I used an office Hauser 360 equal flow manifold with a 780 Holley it was an amazing combination along with my crane Cam that I let the company pick for me by giving them all the details of the motor that transmission the rear end gear ratio the weight of the car it was an amazing of course things were different back then I was running 13 to 1 compression ratio and I could go to the airport and get av gas for my car
I’ve seen these on eBay and they’re dirt cheap, I’m building 2 bbc’s for a boat and I’ve been considering buying them but am concerned about quality but yours looks great.
We've ported a lot of those for the sbc and sbf motors. In stock form they don't flow that well and 3 of the runners are really bad.. like a 30 35cfm difference
@@theshed8802 in stock firm they are not terrible but not as good as the Edelbrock. But once ported correctly they show out!! We get them to give you the best of both worlds with high torque and high hp.
@@theshed8802 ,,,,Its common knowledge that the EDEL rpm manifold went thru extensive design research by Edel..............so the edel air gap is the same or slightly maybe better.......da gooks used their high tech cad/cam or whatever to copy the edels................Only a dyno comparison will show true results.......
Better than any cast iron factory intake plus weight sayings at that cost is kinda a no brainer, the real question is are you going to paint it orange and tell people it’s a z28 manifold just to troll😂
Could not find a decent set of shorty headers for my Dodge ram 1500,,, american-made constantly breaks, and cracks, at high cost,,, found Chinese equivalent with polished stainless steel and TIG welding for half the price,, much better machining and welding,, much better craftsmanship than USA....
The fact that its made ok and is cheap is bad! This is like candy to a baby. People buy this offshore COPIED COUNTERFEIT stuff because they cant be patient and either use the factory part till they save up for the non fake part or they just need it now to fulfil their desire to look good to others. Buying this crud costs the legitimate business who 1st designed them a sale, and another and another and another sale till its not viable for the original conpany to make them any more or at the least they must put the price up! After some time said original manufacturer goes broke, closes down, discontinues the product etc so then all that is available is the FAKE part!!!, then what happens, the scamming copy company has no competition so they then put the price UP on the crud they faked. A win for the offshore knowledge stealers! A LOSS for your countries manufacturing and a loss for you next time you want a cheap product as the price goes up! Dont buy thus crud, dont hurt your country. The same is happening here in Australia, very sad to watch.
US companies have no problem moving manufacturing jobs overseas when it suits them, but WE are supposed to be worried about the jobs they throw away on a whim?
“edelwok”😂 I don’t care who you are, that’s funny right there!
Very clean looking casting, +1 and thumbs up for "EdelWok".
As ive always said...it doesn't matter where it's made, its to who's standards it's made to is what actually matters (the manufacturer/designer). There's plenty of decent stuff manufactured in China, and plenty of junk manufacturered in the US and vise versa
Yeah we should just go full commie!
So you think stolen designs and copy’s of another company’s development is ok. You actually really don’t care if you buy American or Chin?
@@davidleary823 I don't agree with stealing designs, but that is irrelevant to my comment as the point still stands, I was talking more along the lines of stuff made in China designed by/sold under an American brand. 99% of the stuff in Walmart was made in China and it's perfectly fine. And as far as China VS American...have no preference, never cared honestly. Only bias I have is Japanese and German when it comes to my tools, household equipment, cars and so on...if possible that's who I buy from.
I totally disagree with you, I have never seen a quality product come out of China, you should never buy anything that's made in China, I don't.
Uh, lest we forget... China's most infamous export was COVID. I lost a very good hotrodding buddy of many years to that engineered bug. So, reward them with your business if you want but, some of us remember.
why do people do reviews on things before actually testing them? it's been proven(mostly by the chinese) that stuff can look fine or even good but perform poorly when in use. basically who knows, the thing could crack before the intake bolts are tight, some chinese aluminum seems to be swiss cheese.
This is only an initial impression, I absolutely will make another video of installation and performance. Performance wise....it'll probably be ok considering it's going on swirl port tbi heads on a fairly mild 350. If it had afr 190s, then yeah I'd stick a real edelbrock on it.
That's a surprisingly good looking manifold for something Chinese made. Two things I would be looking at before I fit it. The first one is gasket to port match (iengine and carb sides). Often on cheap knock off products, poor alignment can be a huge issue. The other thing is you don't know what it is cast out of, so you probably want to make sure that it has some inhibitor in it at all times to prevent corrosion.
I have a similar Chinese made intake. Check all the runners on each port. I found a bunch of casting flash down in the runners. Used a screwdriver and pencil grinder to clean it all out.
The biggest problem with Chinese manufacturing isn't the looks, it's the lack of consistency in meeting tolerances.
So, things like flash being left in the runners, or port shift(both mentioned by others already here), should be checked. Also, something not as easy to check, port flow. I saw a machinist folw one of these and the variance from one cylinder to the next was twice what it is on an Edelbrock. The flow was also an average of around 20cfm lower per port, compared to the Edelbrock. It was still pretty good, but those things matter...
I have an Edel-Wok on my small bok . It made it much fasser so I had to get new Blakes
I wish you had it sitting next to the real EdelWok for a visual comparison
I actually sent back the edelbrock because the machine work was so bad I couldn’t put one of the mount bolts in. The china manifold was finished much better.
Port alignment /shift was what I thought you would mention.
I was looking at those but I really wanted the heat cross over under the intake for cold weather driving.
Should do the business. As with a lot of Chinese cylinder heads I see the machining is really pretty damn good. Its the quality of the alloy they use that is the biggest issue. Stick to around 30-40% coolant in the water and they are fine. Above that and the alloy seems to degrade a bit quicker than one would expect.
Also only use distilled water (like 36 cents a gallon at grocery store) when you do your coolant blend so you don't introduce any minerals into system. Everything from pump to radiator will remain clean. Been doing this since the late 90's and all still clean.
@@goratgo1970 100% have to agree with that. Only way to go.
I am using for 3 years Chev SB China made heads with not a problem.
These are 68 CC chambers - 202 - 160 values and I bought the heads as bare heads, so all parts put are US made.
This is on a 383 stroker - 6 inch rods and made for a work truck I pull a 30-foot jet boat back and forth from Oregon to Alaska.
The machine shop that did the work said the engine is 450+ HP .
My 1 ton Truck the 383 replaced a 454 so the 383 is doing a very good job comparable to the 454.
That 3.75 stroke and 6 inch rods made a perfect pulling truck engine for long hauling over mountain grades.
that's quite strange, technically coolant is supposed to be an oxide inhibitor.
@@LygerTheCLaw Another benefit of coolant! But I will still not introduce minerals into my vehicles with zero corrosion in cooling system after all these years, nothing strange about it.
If you haven’t already, I would take a straight edge and check the mating surfaces on the ports and the top and make sure it’s all straight. But good score sir!!👍👍👊👊
yup, no way that thing is straight, its not going to sit on the heads perfectly as it should it will be warped for sure, mark my words....
Chinese have been stealing American speed parts and trying to sell it back to us for a while. They were also making a copy of MSD spark box as well.
When I built my small block Chevy many years ago I used an office Hauser 360 equal flow manifold with a 780 Holley it was an amazing combination along with my crane Cam that I let the company pick for me by giving them all the details of the motor that transmission the rear end gear ratio the weight of the car it was an amazing of course things were different back then I was running 13 to 1 compression ratio and I could go to the airport and get av gas for my car
"office Hauser" - ROFLMFAO!!! Surprised you didn't call it an "office hoser"! ha ha ha!! Hey hoser! Where's my jelly? ROFL!!
I got one on my 1997 Dodge Ram, installed fine and vacuum is good so it works fine on a 300 ish hp 318 build with a holley double pumper.
my buddy has the the 302 ford version he tried on his bracket car! and picked up a solid tenth over his factor ford aluminum intake!
I'd imagine with a little polishing, deburring...and finding a spacer it likes it'd probably take off another tenth!
I’ve seen these on eBay and they’re dirt cheap, I’m building 2 bbc’s for a boat and I’ve been considering buying them but am concerned about quality but yours looks great.
i have this on a stock 350sbc tbi engine and it runs great I like it
Good to know. The Edelbrock Air Gap for my car is $500+. But the ebay version is like $140.
I used one on a 880 roller motor I slapped together they are worth the money all day!
What heads and cam did you use?
We've ported a lot of those for the sbc and sbf motors. In stock form they don't flow that well and 3 of the runners are really bad.. like a 30 35cfm difference
How does that compare with the Edelbrock?
@@theshed8802 in stock firm they are not terrible but not as good as the Edelbrock. But once ported correctly they show out!! We get them to give you the best of both worlds with high torque and high hp.
@@theshed8802 ,,,,Its common knowledge that the EDEL rpm manifold went thru extensive design research by Edel..............so the edel air gap is the same or slightly maybe better.......da gooks used their high tech cad/cam or whatever to copy the edels................Only a dyno comparison will show true results.......
Opened up the box, and it still had a hint of Chinese food.😂 seriously.
Make sure there is no rice in the metal
No rice, but when I pulled it out I noticed there was a fortune cookie in the box!
Will you be posting review after install and a few days use? Like to see best gaskets, etc. Have the ebay DNA heads for 383 here.
That's the plan!
Better than any cast iron factory intake plus weight sayings at that cost is kinda a no brainer, the real question is are you going to paint it orange and tell people it’s a z28 manifold just to troll😂
Lol naw...this is a true motion performance winters campaign piece....
@@nickthevanman9011 genuine peice forged by a true samurai of china lol
Could not find a decent set of shorty headers for my Dodge ram 1500,,, american-made constantly breaks, and cracks, at high cost,,, found Chinese equivalent with polished stainless steel and TIG welding for half the price,, much better machining and welding,, much better craftsmanship than USA....
🤣🤣🤣🤣 edelwok.. Love it!!
How dare you give it a name without asking it by throwing it down the stairs and hearing it’s response.😂
😂😂😂
Glad you found my mistake amusing we all need some humor.offenhau
Do u have to Drill ur own hole for the injectors?
These will easily make 450hp+!!
Break out the die-grinder to smooth those rough edges.
Looks better than an Edelbrock I had 2 Edelbrock RPM Air Gaps and they were terrible.
The name has me laughing so hard… I wanna buy one. Think they could go ahead and cast that into it?
I wish they would! 😂
I bought a chinese repo of a Pontiac 1971 455HO intake. Quality is TERRIBLE. Lot's of cleanup work before install.
This looks great.
So support the Chinese company instead of American?
Like Weiand? Those are Chinese. And flowmaster which I sell for a living....also chinese made.
@@nickthevanman9011 Edelebrocks are made in the USA...support them.
Hell yea
Edelwok! Lol
Could you give a link or brand and part # ? I need this for my TBI heads carb conversion .
www.ebay.com/itm/385651599871
Thank you Sir !@@nickthevanman9011
Edelwok lmfao that's great
Do you have a part number?
www.ebay.com/itm/385651599871
Edelwok! Lol!
🤣 Edel-wok
The fact that its made ok and is cheap is bad! This is like candy to a baby. People buy this offshore COPIED COUNTERFEIT stuff because they cant be patient and either use the factory part till they save up for the non fake part or they just need it now to fulfil their desire to look good to others. Buying this crud costs the legitimate business who 1st designed them a sale, and another and another and another sale till its not viable for the original conpany to make them any more or at the least they must put the price up! After some time said original manufacturer goes broke, closes down, discontinues the product etc so then all that is available is the FAKE part!!!, then what happens, the scamming copy company has no competition so they then put the price UP on the crud they faked. A win for the offshore knowledge stealers! A LOSS for your countries manufacturing and a loss for you next time you want a cheap product as the price goes up! Dont buy thus crud, dont hurt your country. The same is happening here in Australia, very sad to watch.
Don’t do it. America needs manufacturing jobs desperately
Then Edelbrock needs to stop asking 400 dollars and more for a manifold that's ridiculous, they are way overpriced, get it back to the two hundreds
US companies have no problem moving manufacturing jobs overseas when it suits them, but WE are supposed to be worried about the jobs they throw away on a whim?
@@Truthbyme1 minimum wage dictates the higher USA prices. Get used to it or be without a job.
Lmfao elewok
Edelwok lol