Outstanding presentation! I’m not one of those paranoiacs who think the Celestron is downloading JWST images but it’s still good to know the difference between the Origin’s AI and the images Photoshop’s AI can come up with. Thanks very much for putting this out for us.
Is what you have learned training the model useful for astronomy camera manufacturers? I don't know how much is a property of the chip itself and how much is tunable via firmware inside the camera.
Yes, the noise profile that we are learning during training is certainly something that might be useful for the chip manufacturer. However, it's not something that we can leverage directly in the firmware. Unless the camera are equipped with a fast AI chip
I recently purchased an Origin and LOVE it! I do have a question that I'm seeing quite often in the user forums and which I didn't notice in my images until zooming in on the processed images. I like having deconvolution on resulting in more pinpoint stars, BUT...dark halos/donuts appear around the stars which is not reality. Is this a result of deconvolution with something replacing what was in the original wider 'spread function' image and that something happens to be a shade of black that we can see as not 100% matching the shade of black being picked up around the deconvoluted star? If that is what is going on, could a fix be supplied that works in that 10-15 second processing budget (kind of like Photoshop dust spot removal blending in the surroundings), or do we need to resort to something like processing raw images in Pixinsight?
Hi thanks for the feedback. The deconvolution model should not introduce halo artifacts. However, if an additional sharpening is applied after the deconvolution, it might induce artifacts. My general advice would be to avoid the “Sharpening” slider provided in the edit section if you enable the deconvolution. The deconvolution model is a superior method that doesn’t need additional sharpening effect.
Yes, you can post-process images from the Celestron Origin using software like PixInsight. Origin’s raw sub-exposure files are available in FITS format, which you can download onto a thumb drive for manual post-processing on your computer. Additionally, the final stacked master image is available as a .png file on your smartphone or tablet. When sharing images directly from the Origin app, they are delivered in .jpg format for easier sharing. As for darks and flats, Celestron pre-captures these calibration frames at the factory and stores them within Origin’s computer, so you typically won't need to take additional ones. However, if you prefer to capture your own darks and flats, you can do so using the Origin app. For flats, an EL panel is recommended for the best results. When you create new darks, the system will also generate a new bias frame automatically. Here is an example of an image processed in PixInsight vs coming from the Origin: instagram.com/p/C-_PAdrunJv/?img_index=1
@@monteroder2708 It's not recommended due to humidity. The operating temperature is the same with all out scopes 0 degrees F to 130 degree F. A Telegizmos cover may protect from heat and rain, but not the buildup of humidity under the cover. This would be a good solution for a few days, but considering how light the system is and the fact that it does not need to be polar aligned, keeping this stored in a shed or in a garage would be far better for the scope.
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Outstanding presentation! I’m not one of those paranoiacs who think the Celestron is downloading JWST images but it’s still good to know the difference between the Origin’s AI and the images Photoshop’s AI can come up with. Thanks very much for putting this out for us.
I own the Origin, it is a great scope! This is an excellent video, has cleared up what is being done from an image processing perspective. Thanks!
When will you introduce a mosaic mode? I’ll buy one if you introduce a mode like that.
I have Celestron binocular's they are great !!! time for telescope the time in the viladge goes way slow :)
Is what you have learned training the model useful for astronomy camera manufacturers? I don't know how much is a property of the chip itself and how much is tunable via firmware inside the camera.
Yes, the noise profile that we are learning during training is certainly something that might be useful for the chip manufacturer. However, it's not something that we can leverage directly in the firmware. Unless the camera are equipped with a fast AI chip
I recently purchased an Origin and LOVE it! I do have a question that I'm seeing quite often in the user forums and which I didn't notice in my images until zooming in on the processed images. I like having deconvolution on resulting in more pinpoint stars, BUT...dark halos/donuts appear around the stars which is not reality. Is this a result of deconvolution with something replacing what was in the original wider 'spread function' image and that something happens to be a shade of black that we can see as not 100% matching the shade of black being picked up around the deconvoluted star? If that is what is going on, could a fix be supplied that works in that 10-15 second processing budget (kind of like Photoshop dust spot removal blending in the surroundings), or do we need to resort to something like processing raw images in Pixinsight?
Hi thanks for the feedback.
The deconvolution model should not introduce halo artifacts. However, if an additional sharpening is applied after the deconvolution, it might induce artifacts. My general advice would be to avoid the “Sharpening” slider provided in the edit section if you enable the deconvolution. The deconvolution model is a superior method that doesn’t need additional sharpening effect.
Are you able to post process in something like Pixinsight? What about darks and flats etc?
Yes, you can post-process images from the Celestron Origin using software like PixInsight. Origin’s raw sub-exposure files are available in FITS format, which you can download onto a thumb drive for manual post-processing on your computer. Additionally, the final stacked master image is available as a .png file on your smartphone or tablet. When sharing images directly from the Origin app, they are delivered in .jpg format for easier sharing.
As for darks and flats, Celestron pre-captures these calibration frames at the factory and stores them within Origin’s computer, so you typically won't need to take additional ones. However, if you prefer to capture your own darks and flats, you can do so using the Origin app. For flats, an EL panel is recommended for the best results. When you create new darks, the system will also generate a new bias frame automatically.
Here is an example of an image processed in PixInsight vs coming from the Origin: instagram.com/p/C-_PAdrunJv/?img_index=1
Thanks
Are you able to leave Origin set up outside under cover such as a Telegizmo cover.? Year round? How cold of a temp can it function in?
@@monteroder2708 It's not recommended due to humidity. The operating temperature is the same with all out scopes 0 degrees F to 130 degree F. A Telegizmos cover may protect from heat and rain, but not the buildup of humidity under the cover. This would be a good solution for a few days, but considering how light the system is and the fact that it does not need to be polar aligned, keeping this stored in a shed or in a garage would be far better for the scope.
@Celestron do a vid how to set up tripod for 114az sr reflictor
Thirty seconds 🎉
lower the price, 4000 is too much.
That’s what’s holding me back. I may go vaoinis vespera pro.