Hard Use Folding Knives

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  • @metal_complex
    @metal_complex  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My Amazon store! - The VERY BEST knives & gear! - www.amazon.com/shop/metalcomplex

  • @Toxica_Intoxicada
    @Toxica_Intoxicada 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Anyone who assumes you don't know what you're talking about are the ones who don't know what they're talking about. Your content is one of the most educational revolving blades. Especially pocket knives.

  • @sambrown4424
    @sambrown4424 5 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Hard use knives for me- trust that they won’t cut your fingers off but cheap enough to use like its trash. And for me that’s why the Benchmade Griptillian is one of my main work knives, use it as a hammer, pry bar, screwdriver, and sometimes even as a knife. Think financials has a lot to do with the medium/heavy use viewpoint. While a Hinderer might be stronger than the grip, I’m not going to ever hard use a 400$ knife so even though it can do it- I’ll never do it making it a null point to me.

    • @Ryan-mj6rc
      @Ryan-mj6rc 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sam Brown full size or mini?

    • @frithsteadfarm904
      @frithsteadfarm904 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've been saying this for years it all depends on your financial status. FYI I'm not going to beat on a $400 knife either . Benchmade contego that's my beater.

    • @quentinham5908
      @quentinham5908 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@frithsteadfarm904 mine too, until i bent the liners in the axis lock cage which gave my blade up down play. Benchmade swapped em out for 10 bucks but it tok em almost 3 months to get it back to me for some reason. Now i wear a garberg in addition to a hi quality folder lol

  • @jamienelson5438
    @jamienelson5438 5 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Hey great video. Just stop apologizing or worrying about upsetting people. Lol. We may not always agree but is true knife guys love all kinds of knives and opinions about them. Keep up the great work!

    • @mlad5274
      @mlad5274 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Couldnt agree more. Metal know what hes talking about.

    • @ryanc5681
      @ryanc5681 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yea metal is a cool dude, we knife guys are a community, we all share the same interest, we should all help and stick together.
      #knivelivesmatter

  • @hildolfrdraugadrottin7279
    @hildolfrdraugadrottin7279 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    All of Cold Steels big folders are extremely tough. I had a pair of their Gunsite 5" tantos that I used everyday for over five years. I live out in the woods and I'm always having to limb oak and hickory trees for trails so I used them like mini machetes. They did lose a couple teeth from the serrated sections. But they never loosened up at all which is pretty incredible considering all the impact they took.
    I just picked up one I think might fall into the hard use category and what's awesome about it is it's only 28 dollars on Amazon right now. And that's the Harnds General. It's got a thick D2 blade, G10 scales and bronze washers.
    It's a brute so if anyone's looking for a hard use budget folder I think it's a pretty good deal.
    Cool video!

  • @tonycanniffe2360
    @tonycanniffe2360 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Cold Steel Recon 1 Spear Point is my choice for ‘hard use’ : Stout blade, great steel(s), tough 🔒, good ergos, good slicer, strong tip. Plenty big but not too huge.
    I’d abuse it if I needed to (stab/pry/baton/cuss at it) with confidence.

    • @ChaplainDaveSparks
      @ChaplainDaveSparks 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, a Recon 1 (if I could afford it).
      Or, if I could really afford it, a 4Max.
      Back to reality, a Voyager in the large category.
      Yep, all Cold Steel, because of the TriAd lock.

    • @EDCwithAaron
      @EDCwithAaron 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Youd love the AD10, I have the recon 1 spearpoint and I havent touched it much since I got the AD10

    • @dustinondrick7778
      @dustinondrick7778 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just buy a socom already!

  • @EDCwithAaron
    @EDCwithAaron 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Awesome video... I'd say that the compression lock is probably stronger than almost any framelock although most of us will never use a knife hard enough for that to matter. Also since I have an AD10 I'm ready for the apocalypse in which only folding knives are allowed!

  • @ernestwalden3894
    @ernestwalden3894 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Got to love the 110. Its truly American classic. My dad allways had one. I got one and my son has one. There one knife that can actually sharpen up to a razor edge and fast. They might be old school but there built right for hard edc use. Thanks for sharing and God bless 🇺🇸

  • @RickyHuse
    @RickyHuse 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I actually cut throw the cardboard on one of my Amazon boxes one day. I was super bummed I somehow slid off the tape and into the box, but zt 0393 managed to hold up okay. Hopefully I don't end up in that situation again!

  • @Pompey411
    @Pompey411 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I can only speak for myself. When going into a hard use situation I’ll always bring a well built fixed blade. Great vids. Keep up the good work!

    • @doctoruttley
      @doctoruttley 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep...my von Tempsky 11” Bowie 😏

  • @tallica4life81
    @tallica4life81 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m a cabinet maker and installer and my work knife is the Delica 4 that was reground to a reverse tantoish tip and use it at least 10 times a day for different tasks.

  • @pigpaul
    @pigpaul ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve been researching
    A new blade,wanted a new edc carry. For the cash about 100 doll hairs I chose the cold steel recon1 clip point.
    Great steel,great lock,
    And I absolutely need G10. I am satisfied with my choice. I highly recommend it.
    Black on black.
    Love the channel!

  • @derek9895
    @derek9895 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My light use would be my Benchmade Bugout 535, medium use would be my Benchmade Osborne 940-1501, and hard use would be my Benchmade Contego 810-1401.

  • @anthonyp7051
    @anthonyp7051 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great vid! After 2weeks of learning the AD10 existed,,,I done endless watching reviews on it and can’t completely get it out of my mind. It’s gonna be my 1st coldsteel and my last folder I bought was a couple yrs bk,the PM2. Not crazy about being forced to buy from overseas but the AD10 is a shinning star I can grab and that’s worth giving a go.

    • @EDCwithAaron
      @EDCwithAaron 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's an incredible knife for the price, and in general. You'll love it as long as you dont mind the size and you might have to bend the pocket clip out a tiny bit to relieve some of the spring tension.

    • @gmoney5947
      @gmoney5947 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Anthony P I got the 4 max and it’s like damn. It’s massive and pretty sweet.

    • @zurich264
      @zurich264 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I still regret selling mu full custom m390 ad-10 a few years back. It was my grail and still is along with the venom

  • @Narrow_Gate_Forge
    @Narrow_Gate_Forge 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The AD-10 is in my edc rotation. It is an absolute beast. I've batoned with it even and not even a scratch. It is heavy and massive. I wear size 5xl gloves and still feels big in my grip.

  • @KnifeCursed
    @KnifeCursed 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I appreciate folding knives that can hold up to my usage. I fix appliances and my knives get used for all kinds of uses not related to cutting. I’d consider it abuse honestly but it is what it is and the job needs to get done and quickly.

  • @peterpuleo2904
    @peterpuleo2904 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Most of these knives look so nice, and are so costly, that I would not want them to get scuffed up or scratched. I tend to limit use to savagely slicing up a banana, cutting up a cupcake, or eviscerating a hard boiled egg. Wonderful knives !

  • @frankwoods135
    @frankwoods135 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Plus if you need to stab something and the knife gets stuck into said material wiggling it loosens it up and makes it easier to get out

  • @JuicyJerm
    @JuicyJerm 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the lock up on my Manix 2 S110v. It's better than my Para 2's, those have a little blade play. My Manix 2 though just feels like a tank. My Para 2's are my fun knives but my Manix is my hard use knife. Though I do mean hard use for a folding knife, remember folding knives are for basic cutting. I also carry a small fixed blade most the time, either the Ka Bar Bk Escabar or my Tops CUT 4.0, that's what I use if I need a sharpened crowbar.

  • @blakekuhlmann2143
    @blakekuhlmann2143 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i love the way you made and classified this list, i just wish i got the satisfaction of seeing a medford in it.

  • @fzyelf
    @fzyelf 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm not big on using a folder for hard use... but sometimes I use the 0560, the Adamas, or the Recon 1. A decent Bradford Guardian or a White River Caper or something similar are much better choice if you can carry a small belt knife.

  • @JensenAzotea
    @JensenAzotea 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What about AD15 it has flat grind but is the lock as good as triad?

    • @SwampDonkie540
      @SwampDonkie540 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The AD15 is a tank. That scorpion lock is bank vault secure

    • @JensenAzotea
      @JensenAzotea 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SwampDonkie540 sweet!

  • @bdcochran01
    @bdcochran01 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    At the time of the First Gulf War, a USMC unit wanted a quantity of Spyderco Enduras from me. I called the factory and passed them on at my cost. I had heard about the knife. It looked funny to me. The usage was described to me - cutting drums, digging holes - in short abuse to which the knife would not stand up. I objected and said that there were substantial knives - and was taught a lesson. I was told that there were more substantial knives. They were breaking the Enduras and running them down to a nub. So why were they buying them? Because they were easy to carry and it would easy enough to get a resupply.
    A light went on in my thinking. Sometimes, it was better to have depth than to have just one extreme hard use knife.
    By the way,. When I was in Central Asia more than 40 years ago, my choice was a traditional, Buck 110 type folder. Beefy, strong, would do any reasonable job, light or small.

    • @metal_complex
      @metal_complex  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is literally one of my favorite comments of all time. Thanks for sharing!

    • @gmoney5947
      @gmoney5947 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kinda like a 1911! It’s got the job done for decades. Us millennials like a variety. I carry a Benchmade anthem and 940-1 but the one that I’d use to break shit with is my cold steel 4-max. It’s a beast for sure.

  • @bigcleatus11
    @bigcleatus11 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the video but I would say there is a difference for me in knives that I would use for everyday hard use and shtf scenarios. For hard use I use a 5 dollar lowes folding razor knife. When it hit the fan fixed all the way.

  • @bitrage.
    @bitrage. 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i have had the 112 spring up and backwars like going over 180 degrees and feel like a spring when putting to much force on the scale spine . WHAT NO MICROTECH SOCOM?!

  • @johneykennick102
    @johneykennick102 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Buck 110 will also work as a light duty use hammer in a pinch. Great video!

    • @jamesaritchie1
      @jamesaritchie1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, if you're stupid enough to abuse a knife that way.

  • @akhoundog907
    @akhoundog907 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    digging up a dead topic here.
    As a large Inkosi sheep's hoove owner (and lover) I fear beating my inkosi. I question it's strength purely based on it's lock bar interface.. the ceramic dent ball. it's the lock bar interface to the blade AND the detent. When i get dirty in it the action becomes nasty, it's so bad the first time i took it apart expecting a broken ceramic bar. great knife tho!

  • @frankrice1253
    @frankrice1253 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Well done-- thanks for taking the time to do this.

  • @sb792079
    @sb792079 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The benchmade proper is a weird one...
    Its a small slipjoint around 2oz, but the blade is surprisingly beefy. The spine is actually very thick for the size of the knife.
    When i try to slice a wedge out of an apple, it kind of "splits" it more than slices.
    I don't do any prying and stabbing just because I'm afraid of it closing on me, but I'm pretty comfortable using it for pretty tough tasks.

  • @billcarey9184
    @billcarey9184 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this video! I know this video has been out for awhile but the Hinderer and Chris reeves have to be the best imo. I have the xm-18 and sebenza and zaan and they are amazing and take everything and anything I throw at them. They aren’t the only knives I have but the ones I pulled out after watching this video.

  • @oxman1800
    @oxman1800 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Throw some external stop pins on the shaman and it catapults into the hard use category, although I think it should be in there now, especially fully serrated. Good video 👍

    • @doctoruttley
      @doctoruttley 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep...in Cruwear or Rex45. (Have them both) 😎

  • @greenless1983
    @greenless1983 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great stuff as usual. Still loving my Benchmade Presidio 2. Nobody ever mentiones it but, I spent several months looking for a solid working knife to use dailey within the tree industry. Picked the combo blade.
    LOL, just saying

  • @drameday
    @drameday 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Got a Cold Steel Voyager I bought back in the 90s. I’ve beat it like a rented mule on the job and at home for all these years and it’s still my go to beater knife. The blade is chipped in a couple of spots and the tip has been gone since I don’t know when. But it’s been a tank for sure.

    • @ChaplainDaveSparks
      @ChaplainDaveSparks 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, indeed. I own a Voyager XL with a large on the way.

  • @NewAgeofAwesome
    @NewAgeofAwesome 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    (Made it to that part it is) Idk if this in the video but a PM2 is not a hard use knife like people claim. That’s just what the office workers call it since it’s not a midget knife

    • @metal_complex
      @metal_complex  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      We all define "hard use" differently.

    • @gpearce11
      @gpearce11 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @NewAgeofAwesome I agree. It’s built very well, but the tip on the PM2 is just way too fragile for hard use. If it had some form of drop point, or even a Manix style leaf blade, with a beefier tip, then absolutely, but not the standard tip.

  • @brandonwagner9329
    @brandonwagner9329 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Tri-Ad lock is the hardest use locking mechanism. Demko uses a simple but purpose driven mindset when designing his locks. The best knife as a tool is a fixed blade knife, but to keep society from walking around looking like peter pan lets made a tool as strong and reliable as that but be able to fold the blade and put in pocket. He is also an american designer who has invented a lock that will be remembered. Cold Steel makes great products for their price point. I have and have had many styles of knives and the confidence I have in the tool in my pocket is total when carrying a tri-ad lock. As for Lynn Thompson’s style, I wish youtube reviewers in general would give the guy some respect. They have been making those videos before youtube was invented. I remember having one on vhs. Before they started making destruction videos they weren’t a thing. They also made the tanto blade shape a thing in folding knives. Cold Steel’s problem is horrid customer service. The main upside from purchasing a non-american made product from an american company. My thoughts, good video.

    • @metal_complex
      @metal_complex  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great comment. Thank you!

    • @metal_complex
      @metal_complex  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I don't think anyone actually thinks that.

    • @jatbatman
      @jatbatman 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      There are many quality brands out there. Nobody can include them all in one video. I think he did a pretty good job representing some diversity, even though he obviously likes Spyderco. Lol

    • @metal_complex
      @metal_complex  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jatbatman yes I do 😁

  • @TheFiendRacer
    @TheFiendRacer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hinderer spanto or strider sng for me

  • @experienceprecision5406
    @experienceprecision5406 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The lock is half the battle. Will the steal keel after it's strained.

  • @adrianvanveen9912
    @adrianvanveen9912 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Totally loved your presentation, and learned a lot. Your wisdom is appreciated. On sites knowing what works and can get the task done is valuable. Going to the knife store now.

  • @gmoney5947
    @gmoney5947 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m guessing that is a mid tech griptilian? Did you build it? The gold glass griptilian is beautiful. I have a mini but want the 551-1. I like the Benchmade-1’s.

    • @metal_complex
      @metal_complex  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't believe there is such a thing as a midtech Griptilian. The one in this video was (I think) the DLT exclusive 👍

  • @holdernewtshesrearin5471
    @holdernewtshesrearin5471 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    great presentation and info! i fully agree with your thoughts.
    I LOVE my Spyderco manix-2 as well! Its one hell of a knife especially in M4 or S110V.
    I carry mine almost every day as my primary, go to work knife.
    My Spyderco tuff with its 3V blade steel can take a lot of abuse as can my ZT 0561 and 0350.
    My Benchmade Knives Ship Free exclusive model 908 stryker with awesome DLC CPM-M4 steel blade and carbon fiber handles is sexy as hell and quite tough and capable too.
    The Adamas and contego can get it done as can the new freek which is next on my to buy list.
    My Boker/Oberland Arms EDW.1 is a fantastic but almost unknown gem in the medium to heavy duty knife category. I love mine until its time to sharpen. That blunt blade tip and resulting progressively steepening edge bevel requires freehand sharpening only.
    Ive yet to master it with that knife.
    My Kizer 401 X1 and X2 are beautiful but hell for stout too. Theyve stood up to some heavy work.
    As for budget priced medium to heavy use knives my Ontario RAT-1 with D2 blade can take quite a bit of abuse as can my Schrade 304, 301, 306 and 303 solid steel folding boat anchors. Probably not the most durable long term, they can nonetheless dish out some heavy punishment when needed.
    Ditto for my Ganzo 720 and 702.
    My Kershaw Hinderer designed cryo-2 is pretty tough too.
    As far as the toughest at any price in my collection anyway, my Cold Steel rajah-3, talwar and especially the ultimate hunter get the nod when i know im going to really work them hard. The triad lock is simply the strongest in the industry and the solid G-10 handle construction is absolutely as tough and strong as steel or titanium.
    Theres plenty of heavy duty knives out there but as youve stated you really have to understand the limitations of a folding knife.
    if you need more than any of these can provide, you need a fixed blade, or an axe or chainsaw etc.

  • @peterpuleo2904
    @peterpuleo2904 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    For the end of the world apocalypse I would grab my SAK cadet for light use, probably a Cold Steel Tri Lite (which is the closest thing to heavy duty/tactical. Now the tough decision is which to select for medium use. Maybe a Delica or Rat 2. Sound good?

  • @donfierro777
    @donfierro777 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank You very much for taking time to make this video, people get in their heads that every knife is a logan wolverine claw...fantasy, like you said every knife has its limits some more than others.

    • @jamesaritchie1
      @jamesaritchie1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The number one limit every knife has is the damned fool holding it, and people who abuse knives rather than making sure they have the right tools for a job are nothing but pure damned fools.

  • @SgtKong
    @SgtKong 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Used my griptilian today to pry up the corner of a sheet of drywall to tighten up the joint.
    Thets a lite day. I'm the poster boy for hard use when it comes to my knives.
    UBC LOCAL #339!

  • @blueeyeswhitedragon9839
    @blueeyeswhitedragon9839 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Personally, only fixed blade knives are suitable for "hard use",
    folders are light to medium use only.
    If you use a folder for hard use, make sure your insurance is paid up.
    The Dutch boys recently did a folder hard use...all but one or two self destructed.
    You can't take that chance in an emergency situation...carry a fixed blade or a pry bar, or an axe.

    • @metal_complex
      @metal_complex  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Unfortunately, reality dictates what we carry. Most of our realities include office jobs. My office frowns upon axes in the work place.

  • @natek1993
    @natek1993 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The AD-10 is a beast

    • @kevinbegin123
      @kevinbegin123 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I got a custom one from andrew himself in elmax back in 2011. I had to wait a year and a half to get it tough. It s a beast for sure but the .200 blade thickness i got is too thick even with the hollow grind. It doesn t slice an apple, it cracks it open like a wedge. But it is tough. I retired it after 5 years of edc and now it s a safe queen

  • @Federalwaywebbs
    @Federalwaywebbs 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent approach to the subject

  • @JoelHunterGun
    @JoelHunterGun 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've always found a need for hard use and abuse when I comes to knives as edc tools. Sorry but not sorry. If you grew up bored in the country like I did, you more than appreciate a knife that you can expect to take abuse. When this happens you become a fan of that tool for life. On top of that, you recommend it to your best friends. You buy them as gifts. Most of all you always have great stories to tell about that tool getting you out of a jam when you really needed it.

  • @mlad5274
    @mlad5274 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The shaman is the best hard use knife in the history of sharp pointy steel. PERIOD!

  • @adamboylan2307
    @adamboylan2307 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    A good rugged knife is also the gerber flat iron. Not your style probably. Not mine either. Bought one for shits and giggles. Kinda heavy, 7cr17 chinesium. But built like a tank.

  • @jojojeep1
    @jojojeep1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Most cold steel knives with the triad lock 5 inches or more I’m going to be hard use.

  • @patrickmartin3361
    @patrickmartin3361 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think cause the spine whack would put a similar julting force on it. Kind of if you put a twisting motion and the lock slips. ? I don't know. My best hard or dirty use so far is my microtech doc, and that's me eating some Shit. I hated ball bearings since the beginning but mt ball bearings r diffent beast. I don't oil it and it just doesn't jam. The most it will do is it won't b as smooth for a little till it works it's way out and is again. My cold steels would jam up, not lock properly and so on and that was on a daily basis with hardly using them. Just a very dirty sweaty job just put the new socom in rotation. Can't wait to see if it's made of the same stuff as the doc.

  • @misterbaker9728
    @misterbaker9728 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I view Manix 2 as hard use but then again whats hard use?!? I’m not batoning a folder and I just busted the tip on my Piercer trying to use it as a screwdriver lol

    • @jim9121
      @jim9121 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The steel will piercer? Do you recommend it ? How about the plaque doctor??

    • @EDCwithAaron
      @EDCwithAaron 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jim9121 I think the plaque doctor is a dentist... The plague doctor is a knife

    • @jim9121
      @jim9121 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EDCwithAaron Thanks for the correction I got a chuckle.

  • @d4mdcykey
    @d4mdcykey 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah 'Hard Use' knives, or any category really, is overall subjective depending on each persons tasks, and their ability to easily replace the knife with available funds, and so forth. The Flame Wars that can result over this is both ridiculous to watch, and a bit self-absorbed.
    I'd say the best Hard Use knife I ever owned was the Kershaw Cryo. Once taking into consideration it was less than $30.00 (so I bought several at once), it never failed no matter what I threw at it, and it could take almost any kind of abuse and still hold up. I used it hunting, at work, at home, working on my car, in the yard, everything. It will always remain a favorite. Other Kerhsaw's I've not been all that crazy about, but that model was a freakin' winner.
    On a side note and my two cents, I have to say: maybe consider not worrying SO MUCH about what other people think on your opinion, or what they will/won't say in comments, etc. I stopped counting when you went over 20 times mentioning this, apologizing for your choices, clarifying, rinse and repeat; honestly it became hard to watch and hear so incessantly. You do you. There will always be trolls, asshats, armchair commandos, blah-blah, and no one can please everyone, so may as well just not waste time on it. A single mention in the beginning of the video just to establish your criteria makes sense, but after that....meh.

    • @jatbatman
      @jatbatman 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kershaw makes very capable knives. I'm not a fan of some of their designs, but I own a few of their knives and have yet to have a problem.

  • @blueeyeswhitedragon9839
    @blueeyeswhitedragon9839 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    My pet peeve is reviewers calling knives with metal (usually titanium) handles only on one side, and plastic (FRN or G10) on the other side (eg. Hest, Strider, etc.) as heavy duty knives . This type of construction might be called medium duty, but never a heavy duty folder.

    • @metal_complex
      @metal_complex  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree. I'm not a fan of that.

    • @gpearce11
      @gpearce11 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Apparently, when done right, having one side pure G10 can still be very strong, because the Ti lock side is sufficiently rigid, otherwise Strider wouldn’t do it. I still prefer a liner behind it though.

  • @banditgriot
    @banditgriot 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video! However, I think the Victorinox Cadet flexes into medium duty because it is a multi tool. I use mine to pry sometimes, which s something I don't do with any of my "city" knives. I still think hard use folders are a myth and my view of hard use has more to do with use in corrosive environments. Again, great discussion, keep it up!

  • @gmoney5947
    @gmoney5947 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cold Steel 4-MAX cause I can’t afford an AD-10 or 15. There’s an AD-15 for $440 on eBay.

  • @robertfogle654
    @robertfogle654 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Artisan proponent with pin in.

  • @alexbut7638
    @alexbut7638 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, what category of these three you would put the ZT 0562ti

    • @metal_complex
      @metal_complex  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If ZT fixes their locl face geometry issues, hard

  • @MetalRush666
    @MetalRush666 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I can always count on my manix 2. That's my ideal beater knife. Good vid and good examples displayed. 👍

    • @frederickj.7136
      @frederickj.7136 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @ Chris Howard... In a similar vein, I chose the standard BD1 for my Manix 2 for the blade's repairability and for easy dressing of the cutting edge at a moment's notice. Cost wasn't the deciding factor. I *very* much hope a Manix 2 updated to BD1N won't be too long in coming from Golden, CO. S110V or Maxamet just isn't what I want for a Manix 2.

    • @pauldayton5285
      @pauldayton5285 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      My EDC is the Manix 2XL. I love this knife ! I have the black DLC coated CPMS30V blade steel with black G-10 scales. I'm currently looking for the M4 version. I'm going to get the Flytanium ball cage , ti liners & the ti back piece. I'm going to replace the G-10 with carbon fiber scales. Personally I think the Manix 2XL with all the upgrades competes with & arguably might be the best EDC folder of all time ! I hope Spyderco makes more sprint runs & come out with a Tanto version like the PM2 has. Possibly a Emerson wave version? I've got my fingers crossed !

  • @WillEDC
    @WillEDC 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I’m here for the tough guy comments

    • @ilijabosnjak76
      @ilijabosnjak76 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You want it Tough,,, 😂 try Knife King 👑 in D2,,,Tough Guy 😂 😂 😂 Show me what you got...

  • @Lemonhoko
    @Lemonhoko 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love your videos brother! My hard use knife on my mini farm is the CH3504, if I need anything stronger, Ill pull out my BK2., but the CH3504 is built like a tank..the liner steel is much thicker than most knives (G-10 model) and the stop pin is thick...the blade is no slouch either.

  • @danfabisac
    @danfabisac 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Buck and Cold Steel I believe are hollow ground. Do you think that is a grind for hard use?

    • @metal_complex
      @metal_complex  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      It depends on your definition of hard use. I think it can be.

    • @ceefrea
      @ceefrea 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Buck CSAR-T Pro has a .18" thick blade, with a deep hollow grind that barely goes halfway up the blade, with a thick tanto tip. So I can have a fine edge and great prying ability. I've been using it for years in the refinery.

  • @bwxbwx6453
    @bwxbwx6453 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    2 knives for hard work for me are the victorinox Spartan and the farmer just always worked for me
    (I OFTEN TRY MY LUCK)

  • @markgoldstein6265
    @markgoldstein6265 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    After breaking a para 2 at work i started using my ontario falcon .. My manix 2 is #1 choice and used 99% but that 1% . falcon or esee fixed

    • @theshapeexists
      @theshapeexists 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Curious how you broke your para2? What were you doing and how did it break? I have one in m390 and baby it way more than my s30v para2.

  • @BigShay1977
    @BigShay1977 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Given similar materials and construction...I'd bet my fingers in this order:
    Tri-Ad > Axis > Back > Compression > Frame > Liner

    • @gpearce11
      @gpearce11 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sam Shalati That’s a pretty good order. A lot of people seem to distrust the AXIS lock because the springs can break, but the lock won’t fail if it does, and an open AXIS lock is almost as strong as a fixed blade. I think the Tri-Ad is literally the only lock stronger.
      I really hope they can find a way to incorporate the Anthem’s coil spring AXIS into their HD knives, like the Adamas and Turret, because those are tanks.

    • @metal_complex
      @metal_complex  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd like to see that too.

  • @deadvikingtrolls
    @deadvikingtrolls 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    AD20 is peak hard use until at least the AD25.
    Edit: I'm aware this video precedes the AD20 but seeing the Hinderers and AD10 made me grab my whaleshark.

  • @stevewelborn8744
    @stevewelborn8744 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for doing videos on subjects like this. We all have different views and to me this is supposed to be fun. It's entertaining and if you worry about people not liking your view there will not be any entertainment. Please keep it up.

  • @SgtKong
    @SgtKong 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hard use Auto: Benchmade Adamas FTW!

    • @experienceprecision5406
      @experienceprecision5406 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hard to beat the Protech/Strider also. Love that knife just can't afford it really.

  • @brandonmaples
    @brandonmaples 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Recon 1 TANTO for me👍

  • @donkeyblue3094
    @donkeyblue3094 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How isn’t the Shaman “hard use”?

  • @martinhawrylkiewicz2025
    @martinhawrylkiewicz2025 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great vid! Used to own a Cold Steel Lawman.... Boy thst was one beefy knife! Too big for me. Sold it and got Spyderco Sage 1. Love it.

  • @jdsimons6115
    @jdsimons6115 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    seen many a tips broke off of those buck 110

  • @KevinIngram-om5jh
    @KevinIngram-om5jh 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Correction "manufactured"

  • @experienceprecision5406
    @experienceprecision5406 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Medium use. Don't try to open a can of paint

  • @ilijabosnjak76
    @ilijabosnjak76 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really don't care,,I know All my knives..I know their properties and use,,Machete,Katana,Bowie,Slip Joints,Full Tang etcétera...But I have favourites which is Mora Knives...

    • @metal_complex
      @metal_complex  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      K 👍

    • @ilijabosnjak76
      @ilijabosnjak76 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Metal Complex Your video is awesome 👏,,don't get me wrong,,But for some reason I still don't own Buck 110 and I want one ☝️ or Buck Vantage...Can you help,,they are scarce and expensive in Canada 🇨🇦...Don't worry I will pay you...

  • @lewisward4359
    @lewisward4359 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice to hear about your background. Entertaining for sure, it's knives! Hinderer's are out of my price range. In 2008 I bought a SOG Vulcan 3-5" blade VG10 because my employment in a city didn't allow fixed blade knives. I was working as forestry technician needing a knife to sample/pry into trees and at the time of employment had little money to spend. At $100 it fit the bill for a large hard use knife that was legal. Today I would purchase something better like a Benchmade Griptillian or the Spyderco Shaman. I'm well into retirement so that isn't happening, but I do buy other knives. Some of the older models of pocket/camp knives such as the Schrade or Case from the 40's, 50's and 60's work fine as medium duty knives

  • @eqlzr2
    @eqlzr2 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are those the only knives you have? ;-)

  • @abc456f
    @abc456f 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I used to think zt were tough knives. Until I did some simple spine taps with them. Six of nine failed.

    • @bp-hx9ts
      @bp-hx9ts 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      srg914 yup I’m not buying zt anymore so disappointed

    • @abc456f
      @abc456f 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bp-hx9ts Me neither. Unless the company were to come out and address the issues, which I doubt will happen.

    • @bp-hx9ts
      @bp-hx9ts 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      srg914 from what I know they have been assholes about things like this

    • @lenzielenski3276
      @lenzielenski3276 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      You must be very unlucky. I've just shy of 20 and not a failure... not that ANYTHING I'd ever do with a knife involves wacking on it in the opposite direction from which it was intended.

    • @abc456f
      @abc456f 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lenzielenski3276 Take a look at neroknives video of zt lock failures and the comments. Not only me. I wouldn't trust a lock like that. If my knife got stuck in something I was cutting and I had to pull it up and out, it would be a good way to lose a finger or two. Btw, knife manufacturers test their knives by hitting the spine. They should not fail. And I'm telling you I'm not hitting them hard at all. Tapping, that's it. Check bladeforums....you'll see it's a known issue with zt.

  • @raulbanegas1982
    @raulbanegas1982 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Buck is not hard use ! Those shits have blade play up and down, side to side .

  • @dsknives310
    @dsknives310 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Maybe we can define heavy use as construction use....?? Cuz if u can’t use the tip as a screw driver than its not really heavy use. 🤔

    • @jatbatman
      @jatbatman 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Butter knives make excellent screwdrivers. Lol

  • @computerwarez
    @computerwarez 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Opinions Vary
    let the msg wars begin ;)
    great reviews
    your opinion is valid to you and that’s what matters most

    • @metal_complex
      @metal_complex  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I uploaded this with squinted eyes and gritted teeth. 😅

    • @computerwarez
      @computerwarez 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Metal Complex
      Lol
      I love your reviews mainly because your very considerate of others
      I feel a review is exactly that a review and it’s your opinion to which your viewing to others.
      People need to put themselves in others shoes so to speak and appreciate the work and time invested in a review.
      awesome as always Thank You
      oh yeah I consider hard use being able to use it for outdoor jobs such in a forest environment survival type situation
      more full tang knives or certain folders with that type of build.
      Lol I had to add this for one of my Hard use
      Camillus 18-Inch Titanium Bonded Carnivore X Machete (19236)
      I have this and used it to cut 2-3” branches
      it’s awesome lol

    • @blueeyeswhitedragon9839
      @blueeyeswhitedragon9839 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@metal_complex Your final recommendations for pocketable EDC knives was spot on. Check Johnny Juke's video on the AD10. He would be tickled if you said who recommended him.

  • @mikejoseph8392
    @mikejoseph8392 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Using a folder in very hard situations is stupid. It's as dumb as taking a bicycle to a motocross event. People should try to use the right tool for the right purpose. We as knife collectors and users
    seem to be able to convince ourselves that using a $500 CRK to cut up boxes. If you think about that for a bit we would find it absurd but yet we do. I've not yes seen anyone except the guy that made the Yojimbo discuss using it for protection. How about we review knives that include stab-ability and organ damage. We also need to grade the survivability from stab wounds on a smiley-frowny scale like the doctors use. I do mean this in jest but it's something to think about.

    • @metal_complex
      @metal_complex  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Buddy... everyone here knows this. Folding knives don't fall into the same "hard use" category as fixed blades. I pointed this out in the video.

  • @doctoruttley
    @doctoruttley 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Heavy use = Medford Praetorian Ti 😏

  • @peterpuleo2904
    @peterpuleo2904 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sometimes I carry two knives for EDC. Actually, the light use category gets much more activity than medium use category. I really don't own any heavy use. They are impressive looking and well made, but rather heavy and clunky for my purposes. Great video!

  • @mikejoseph8392
    @mikejoseph8392 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your title says hard use and most of the knives are light to medium knives. What's up with that

    • @metal_complex
      @metal_complex  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      "We all have a different definition of hard use" (I said it multiple times)

  • @B-leafer
    @B-leafer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    26:56 starts hard use category fyi

    • @metal_complex
      @metal_complex  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ya just skip all the context. Not important 🤦‍♂️

  • @jasonclark8921
    @jasonclark8921 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the upload and keep the great videos coming.

  • @jatbatman
    @jatbatman 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Anything lock back is light use. Anyone that's had a lock back knife give out knows this.

    • @metal_complex
      @metal_complex  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ... go on... why do you feel that way?

    • @jatbatman
      @jatbatman 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@metal_complex every lock back knife I've ever had eventually failed. Some in very dangerous ways. As a result, I have no trust in them. The worst of these fails resulted in the blade folding all the way back onto my hand. It did not feel good to have the locking mechanism wedge into my palm as the spine of the blade dug into my hand.
      The only one I currently own is a dollar store knife I bought to see if I could remove serrations and make a functional flat blade. I was able to, and only kept the knife because of that.
      By the way my favorite lock so far is the arc lock on my SOG Vulcan. It's similar to the axis lock.

    • @metal_complex
      @metal_complex  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ok well that still isn't really telling me much. My experience with lock backs is the exact opposite.

    • @jatbatman
      @jatbatman 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@metal_complex yeah I wish mine were. It's the only locking mechanism that's failed dangerously for me.
      I have had a couple liner locks effectively become fixed blades. Lol They were cheaper knives though.

    • @blueeyeswhitedragon9839
      @blueeyeswhitedragon9839 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@metal_complex The Buck 110 is probably a strong medium duty knife. I have had a back lock (of the "older" style) fail on me, which is why the Cold Steel Tri-Ad lock has taken off as a hard use folder.

  • @dustinondrick7778
    @dustinondrick7778 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    SOCOM ELITE....

  • @TheOutlaws9295
    @TheOutlaws9295 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good vid man mantix and rat good choice 👍

  • @ChaplainDaveSparks
    @ChaplainDaveSparks 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You want a *REAL* "hard use knife"? Convince KaBar to create a folding version of the Becker BK2! 😄

    • @tangamat2128
      @tangamat2128 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Right!!👍👍👍👍👍

  • @MrFomhor
    @MrFomhor 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Cold Steel Spartan anyone?

    • @hildolfrdraugadrottin7279
      @hildolfrdraugadrottin7279 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I chipped a big chunk out of mine carving a cedar staff. I traded it to my neighbor shortly after. It was a cool knife so I was more than a little disappointed.
      The blade chipping like that from carving on cedar pretty much eliminates it from a hard use knife imo. I used a Cold Steel Gunsite Tanto for years way harder and it never failed.

  • @markm8956
    @markm8956 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Say substantial one more time

  • @streettuff2623
    @streettuff2623 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm very upset!!!! But that's ok

  • @patrickmartin3361
    @patrickmartin3361 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I heard benchmade let spyderco come up with and use ball-bearing lock and the compression lock if spyderco let them use the spyder hole. It's really the same thing as the axis lock. Iv heard tons talk junk about bm using the hole yet no one see that they are using bm axis lock modified. Good on them for working things out even tho spyderco is a shite company. They will replace your knife but won't really fix or reblade it. If you want a spyderco you have to pay the troll toll

  • @thecarnut9899
    @thecarnut9899 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Buck 110

    • @metal_complex
      @metal_complex  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      🥱😴
      Na its a good knife

  • @experienceprecision5406
    @experienceprecision5406 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hit that like button

  • @KevinIngram-om5jh
    @KevinIngram-om5jh 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would really like to see you review some knives from holtzmansurvival.com. They have some great folders and incredible bushcraft fixed blades. A family owned American Company. The knives are designed and engineered in the US, then unmanufactured at a high quality machine shop in China. Thanks

  • @kyles1274
    @kyles1274 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why do so many youtubers start there video with "I'm going to do a video that I have wanted to do for a very long time"

    • @metal_complex
      @metal_complex  5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Because we all have ideas for videos that we have wanted to do for a long time.

    • @mikeeaton8483
      @mikeeaton8483 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or “ I should have done this long ago but I’ve been sleeping all day and going to the mailbox to get the knives mom pays for”

    • @metal_complex
      @metal_complex  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lol, no Mike. Move along buddy.

  • @timmoore8491
    @timmoore8491 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You've got money. But not much of a clue

    • @metal_complex
      @metal_complex  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      😎

    • @ZakariahSH
      @ZakariahSH 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Criticism also need some courtesy. You should appreciate for someone’s work. Can you do better than him ?

    • @metal_complex
      @metal_complex  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Na he's just trolling.

    • @timmoore8491
      @timmoore8491 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This was a year ago. And my opinion has changed for the better. I am sorry for my ignorance and for being rude

    • @ZakariahSH
      @ZakariahSH 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Tim Moore. Thank you brother for your reply. I appreciate that.