In Australia on the farm we let the bales dry out more standing them on end, then they go into the Hay Shed, which has 2" pipe running across to allow more air to go through the shed, those pipes heat up more than you can handle holding onto the pipe.
@@Fatboypeet in between the bales, the cross breeze goes through the pipes to cool them down, however the heat generated by the bales can heat the pipes quite hot.
Hay fires are no joke! I've seen 1000 tons go up in flames and completely melt down a hay barn at the dairy I used to live/work on over here in Central CA! It was massive!
@SilverFarms They bought alot of hay from out of state.That place milked 5000 cows.It had 2 double 32 milk barns. Alot of the hay came in dry vans,big bales.Unload it with a skid steer with forks and then we'd set it all out and probe every bale with the moisture meter and separate it.That was after the fire! It was a pain in the ass.
@jaydenijtsma1134 We just watched it burn.Not much you can do,we literally sat there drinking beer's watching that shit burn down with the fire department guys.Pushed some of it off into the shit ponds but it was crazy
@@SilverFarms there have been several products making the same claims for at least 20 years I used some powdered product on 4x8 bales back in the early 90's not sure if they ever had or have a product now that comes close to what the commercials and salesmen tell you
When I was a kid we cut, raked, and bailed all at the same time three tractors running about 100 feet behind each other then when finished bailing we had a truck pulling the big trailer with 3 people on the trailer stacking and 6 people ( 3 people walking on each side of the trailer ) loading the trailer front for the stackers as we drive between rows of bailed hay. Every time the trailer is full we unload filling one of the old barns. We would do maybe 10 loads to empty the field. 6 days and all the fields were cleared. That was summer vacation. We kids got paid $20.
Very interesting. I live in the west, hay drying out here is not a problem. Definitely something far more critical to consider for you guys in the midwest.
Yep ive seen Bale Fires before, a few years ago i saw a Truck of Hay Bales catch fire outside a Pool in a Small town about 150 Miles West of Toronto, got so hot it melted the Asphalt on the Road
Not going to lie man it's pretty sweet to see other people.in the country make hay. Like for example we never teddeder it we would just it the mild of the row with the rake "twin star reel rake"
I don’t know how farmers make any money on hay. All kinds of different equipment and steps. I saw a local guy in my area selling bales for $7 bucks each.
$250-450 Per Ton for Good-Premium Alfalfa x Multiple Tons Per Acre. Guys making Hay make more than some/most Crop Farmers. There are Multiple & Higher Cost Equipment and Steps for Row Crop Farming
The nice thing about hay is that it's just grass. In my area, silage (still just grass) is more profitable per acre but there's more that can go wrong with the process.
@@taylor11089where’s this $450.0 a ton hay ???? Average is well below that right now for Premium & supreme hay Small bale producers & one field guys don’t set the standards on average hay prices.
We cut last week doing it the way we usually do. Cut day one starting about 0700, rake and bale the next day starting about 1000 to 1100. Just finished last Friday with dew points in the low 70s. Never had a problem. If you bale bluestem and it blossoms after you cut cows will just walk it into the ground. Bale it early and green they eat it all.
How dose that hay preservative compare in price to something like Cropsaver from New Holland? Never heard of a spray you mix at home. I think I'm at about $200 to treat about 40-60 4x5 round bales depending on moisture.
@ChickenScrape It's alot cheaper but there are a few inconveniences like it only lasts 48hrs after mixing and you usually end up not using alittle because you can't run empty. I really like it been using it since 2011 it's not corrosive and people like this over acid as far as horse hay buyers. www.multisile.com They sell silage inoculations also this is the dry hay stuff
@ChickenScrape It's works for me not saying it's for everyone. You can't mix my preserve and what you use. System has to be clean to use my water/ powder mix.
@AndyPratt-wc7bv I am in Southern WI and dry hay is a struggle lots of humidity and heavy dews. There is still a demand for dry hay but it's tough to get. Preservative and spreading bales out does miracles.
i farm too..on FF22 hahaha I have learned so much about farming through that game. when I started I knew nothing. i still really dont but at least i know some of the equipment
We let a friend put gooseneck trailer full of fresh cut hay and R Pole barn 80 / 100. It was burnt down within 3 days. True story. We had to fight the insurance company for 2 1/2 years
@joeyrutherford1790 Wow that had to be really wet to combust in 3 days. Alot of times barn fires happen about 3-4 weeks after baling unless it's really wet
Why does high moisture increase the fire risk? Is there a chemical reaction that causes heat if the bales are too wet? I know that piles of manure, trash and wood chips can get hot
Glad yall are gettin rain. I live in nw florida and my poor neighbor is having a slow crop this year. She grows perennial peanut hay and we haven't had rain in my area in almost a month
@generalbob6994 That's how we did it before. But a tedder is another tool and it definitely speeds up drying if the weather is limited for good weather.
My husband says that when they were doing the smallest standard square bales and there was a question they always salted the barn but doesn't know if that would work on these big bales
I remember my grandpa hand spreading salt on the small squares every layer in the hay-mow. Our barn still standing to this day. Could be completely bull sh!t LOL
As a farmer that bales a lot of hay. The salt can help if it is on the edge moisture wise because as the hay heats up the salt will absorb the condensation that causes it to combust.
In Australia on the farm we let the bales dry out more standing them on end, then they go into the Hay Shed, which has 2" pipe running across to allow more air to go through the shed, those pipes heat up more than you can handle holding onto the pipe.
Pipe running across ?
@@Fatboypeet in between the bales, the cross breeze goes through the pipes to cool them down, however the heat generated by the bales can heat the pipes quite hot.
@@jamesmatheson5115why do the bales get so hot like that?
@@nevinkuser9892 if you want to know more, search: "spontaneous combustion hay"
Fermentation creates heat. If there's too much moisture they can ferment too much and it can make them spontaneously combust@nevinkuser9892
Hay fires are no joke!
I've seen 1000 tons go up in flames and completely melt down a hay barn at the dairy I used to live/work on over here in Central CA!
It was massive!
@bradkoehler5814 I know it's not a joke that's why I take special precautions. Have to use preservatives and the hay cannot be stacked in tight.
@SilverFarms They bought alot of hay from out of state.That place milked 5000 cows.It had 2 double 32 milk barns.
Alot of the hay came in dry vans,big bales.Unload it with a skid steer with forks and then we'd set it all out and probe every bale with the moisture meter and separate it.That was after the fire!
It was a pain in the ass.
We had 150 bales burn down in December with snow on top of the bales it was outside so no buildings were burnt down and we saved 85% of the bales.
@jaydenijtsma1134 We just watched it burn.Not much you can do,we literally sat there drinking beer's watching that shit burn down with the fire department guys.Pushed some of it off into the shit ponds but it was crazy
@jaydenijtsma1134 how do they catch on fire in the snow?
Equipment looks very well taken care of love to see it!
@@andreschaap-sq3ct Thanks
That old 7000 sounds amazing!
@@joshuavocke3850 Gotta love the straight pipe!
@@SilverFarmsI've got an old 1973 Ford 3000! Those thousand series tractors were great tractors!
Cleanest Heston by far I’ve ever seen. I can tell you’ve took good care for her.
That’s so interesting that you can spray something on the hay to make it from getting moldy. Never seen that before.
@user-us6tf6ni9d It definitely works to there are other products then what I use also.
@@SilverFarms there have been several products making the same claims for at least 20 years I used some powdered product on 4x8 bales back in the early 90's not sure if they ever had or have a product now that comes close to what the commercials and salesmen tell you
When I was a kid we cut, raked, and bailed all at the same time three tractors running about 100 feet behind each other then when finished bailing we had a truck pulling the big trailer with 3 people on the trailer stacking and 6 people ( 3 people walking on each side of the trailer ) loading the trailer front for the stackers as we drive between rows of bailed hay. Every time the trailer is full we unload filling one of the old barns. We would do maybe 10 loads to empty the field. 6 days and all the fields were cleared. That was summer vacation. We kids got paid $20.
Is it bad tho is the question, probably some chemical
@@JRTH-camrits some kind of bacteria
Very interesting. I live in the west, hay drying out here is not a problem. Definitely something far more critical to consider for you guys in the midwest.
@billbob4255 I wish hay dried good here in WI. It only dries good when there is a drought lol
Holy hell dude you have the coolest tractor lineup around. Man those fords are soo damn cool.
@@Premiumpat Thanks
I personally hated the TM line up. Just sold the last one of ours about 6 months ago that had around 2500 hours. I don’t miss it them. 😅
We did that, spray the hay with what Dad called "Pickle Juice". It works, and actually makes the hay more palatable.
Man I feel like David hasn’t met his match yet in this arena. Keep it up Dave you’re an inspiration
Thank you for your career choice and for performing the job as a professional.
Cool I love the new hollands
damn i love this kind of farming equipment
Love to see the Fords still going strong. '75 3000. Like part of the family.
I can smell that hay through the screen!
@@manoffewords1 Hay drying smells the best
Cool stuff man!!
Thanks appreciate your comment!!
Yep ive seen Bale Fires before, a few years ago i saw a Truck of Hay Bales catch fire outside a Pool in a Small town about 150 Miles West of Toronto, got so hot it melted the Asphalt on the Road
Great video! New Holland to the rescue!
@@RaoulThomas007 THANKS
Nice to see some old blue iron getting the job done
Notice there is NO JOHN Deere Equipment. Got some really great equipment from New Holland Equipment
@@PaulHopper-q8d yup don't have much JD stuff. Never wanted to pay for the name.
"How we bale 20-30% of hay without burning our barn down. First we use our diesel guel tan-"
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what a beautiful set-up..Thank you for sharing and uploading..
@bigstuff52 Thanks appreciate your comment!
Not going to lie man it's pretty sweet to see other people.in the country make hay. Like for example we never teddeder it we would just it the mild of the row with the rake "twin star reel rake"
I don’t know how farmers make any money on hay. All kinds of different equipment and steps. I saw a local guy in my area selling bales for $7 bucks each.
$250-450 Per Ton for Good-Premium Alfalfa x Multiple Tons Per Acre.
Guys making Hay make more than some/most Crop Farmers.
There are Multiple & Higher Cost Equipment and Steps for Row Crop Farming
@beaubromley942 I do pretty well selling hay if the weather cooperates! Alot of the equipment I already have to have to make feed for my dairy cows.
The nice thing about hay is that it's just grass.
In my area, silage (still just grass) is more profitable per acre but there's more that can go wrong with the process.
@@taylor11089where’s this $450.0 a ton hay ????
Average is well below that right now for Premium & supreme hay
Small bale producers & one field guys don’t set the standards on average hay prices.
We make hay because we love it and delude ourselves into believing we're turning a profit.
I ENJOYED WATCHING THE VIDEO ❤😊
This is awesome I like watching hay videos
Thanks!
@@SilverFarms your welcome
Nice tm
Yeah that works good We've been spraying high moisture hay for about 8-10 years to save it from getting rained on to
Nice equipment
Looks like your Hesston baler is taken great care of.
@halwilliams1682 Yes it really has been cared for dad bought it new and it always gets parked inside when not in use.
We cut last week doing it the way we usually do. Cut day one starting about 0700, rake and bale the next day starting about 1000 to 1100. Just finished last Friday with dew points in the low 70s. Never had a problem.
If you bale bluestem and it blossoms after you cut cows will just walk it into the ground. Bale it early and green they eat it all.
When you know what you are doing, you know what you are doing.
Fantastic
so is that a proponic acid concentrate? We use a product called "The Juice" up here in ontario canada. But it comes in 55gal drums already liquid
Awesome Brother ❤
Can't wait to start my own farm
Thank you for keeping this video JDgreen free.
Tm😍
And what does that anti-mold (anti-fungal) spray do to the livestock's gut health?
@markmayes41 It's perfectly safe for all animals. www.multisile.com
Allot better then eating mold. Research the product you might be surprised.
How dose that hay preservative compare in price to something like Cropsaver from New Holland? Never heard of a spray you mix at home. I think I'm at about $200 to treat about 40-60 4x5 round bales depending on moisture.
@ChickenScrape It's alot cheaper but there are a few inconveniences like it only lasts 48hrs after mixing and you usually end up not using alittle because you can't run empty. I really like it been using it since 2011 it's not corrosive and people like this over acid as far as horse hay buyers. www.multisile.com They sell silage inoculations also this is the dry hay stuff
@@SilverFarms Thanks I'll check it out. The new acids are buffered so they aren't corrosive some how. Definitely need hay treatment some days.
@ChickenScrape It's works for me not saying it's for everyone. You can't mix my preserve and what you use. System has to be clean to use my water/ powder mix.
Yall I never realized how big and heavy those Alfa bales are until we started buying some for our horses. They are NO JOKE😂
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What's that green stuff? Poison? 🧐🧐
Have u ever made medicinal hay..by adding hyssop or mint for gut and breathing
Whats the difference between a rotery rake and a windrower?
Old timer did small bails I stacked and salted them heavily. All by hand.
I miss farming so much my boys say it all the time
what brand is that spray?
Hat looks very green?
What brand is the dry hay inoculant?
We just put feeding salt on the top of the bales when we make them a little wet and then stack them in the shed
Sure like to know where ya find these nice new holland tractors
My grandpa sold a pioneer corn for my whole childhood. It always blew my mind how little inoculate you need
That's cool. I've never heard of that before.
@bigtater29 Still prefer the hay to just get dry enough but this year is tough.
@@SilverFarms I live in Southwest PA and our yards are dryin up. No problems around here. Lol
sketchy. We do max 18% on alfalfa 15 on grass. a barn near us just burned down from high moisture.
@@AndyPratt-wc7bv You would never get anything done in our area if it had to be 18% and less. Where are you located?
@@SilverFarms northern California
@AndyPratt-wc7bv I am in Southern WI and dry hay is a struggle lots of humidity and heavy dews. There is still a demand for dry hay but it's tough to get. Preservative and spreading bales out does miracles.
Is that the green stuff that produces supermutanta?
i farm too..on FF22 hahaha I have learned so much about farming through that game. when I started I knew nothing. i still really dont but at least i know some of the equipment
Wow a lot of work
I like how they just put some random chemicals from China on livestock feed
@vanessadavis1091 It's safe for all animals probably safer then some of the food you shove in your month. www.multisile.com. Made it the US by the way
I love racking and inverting my two favorite jobs
The tetter is good for drying hay but it destroys the folage
@user-xe7vg7zg2v not much choice in this area gotta do it with alittle dew then it's not to bad.
in the thumbnail i thought you painted an international blue. i was so confused lol
Love the Blue Tractors
What year is that ford 7000?? We have a 74 that my grandpa bought bran new
@@quinnlandon3254 1975
@@quinnlandon3254 My grandpa bought it new also
What model ford is that 4000 5000
@JTChainsawshop 7000 it's a handy like tractor and has good hp for the size
We let a friend put gooseneck trailer full of fresh cut hay and R Pole barn 80 / 100. It was burnt down within 3 days. True story. We had to fight the insurance company for 2 1/2 years
@joeyrutherford1790 Wow that had to be really wet to combust in 3 days. Alot of times barn fires happen about 3-4 weeks after baling unless it's really wet
Why does high moisture increase the fire risk? Is there a chemical reaction that causes heat if the bales are too wet? I know that piles of manure, trash and wood chips can get hot
The moisture feeds bacteria which produce heat sufficient when next to dry enough hay to combust.
@@danrose3233 thanks for the reply, that’s really interesting
What old ford u got I got a ford 7000. For raking and its amazing
@@AidenHull. It's also a Ford 7000
@@SilverFarms nice now I’m going to Match urs for when i restore mine
@@AidenHull. What do you mean match mine? Mine isn't restored it's pretty faded.
Like kinda but not and mine is faded faded and rusty a little
Glad yall are gettin rain. I live in nw florida and my poor neighbor is having a slow crop this year. She grows perennial peanut hay and we haven't had rain in my area in almost a month
What part? we are under a flood warning now.
@@brucewelty7684 calhoun county.
is that alfafa hay or how ever u spell it how much dose it cost per bale
We bale at a max of 25% and use “the juice” hay preserver.
Awesome operation
We roll our hay but we don’t have a silage roller u can roll hay with like 60 percent moisture with a silage roller
Moldy hay?
Put a Couple large Fans in the Barn and move air thru the barn.
Nice Bobcat!
Me and my dad dont use a hay tedder we just mowe the hay let it sit for a few days and then rake it
@generalbob6994 That's how we did it before. But a tedder is another tool and it definitely speeds up drying if the weather is limited for good weather.
New Holland s are the best tractor, and many cows do you have?
My husband says that when they were doing the smallest standard square bales and there was a question they always salted the barn but doesn't know if that would work on these big bales
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I LOVE IT
Nice tractor youse a kabata 😊
Why do they burn
Forget the dry hay if you can wrap it
@sperfdairy2160 I agree I chop or wrap 90% for our farm but any extra I like to dry bale all brings more money.
@@SilverFarms very true hard to sell balage
@sperfdairy2160 I have sold some balage at times but it has to be high quality and this first crop grassy stuff was not any quality.
So even more chemicals for them to eat..us to eat??
What chemical do y’all youse
Also could wrap them plastic set them outside, don't have to worry about catching on fire !!
'Green spray' may be high in common salt. (Osmotic H2O removal; long-time farmer trick. Some NaCl not a problem for cattle.)
"Joy juice" as we use to call it.
Ford 7000?
Those are 3x3s right
@@Oklahomaboy2.0 yes
Baling stems, cool.
Bravi gran bel lavoro
"prevent the nails from combusting"? WTF?! Why would they combust?????!!
High moisture can cause heat and thus can cause bales to spontaneously combust
I have actually seen barns burn down from this!
What was that poison you mixed up ?
Modern agriculture is just a different kind of strip mining
Holy shit how is that skid steer not fully tiped over
This is the guy you DO NOT want to buy hat from 😮
@backwoodsbaby9729 You would be surprised on how it turns out.
Yeah, but what in the world are we feeding the horses now?
Easy Peezy! just kidding.
Just another day farming. High stakes, high costs, high satisfaction when winning against the odds!
I remember my grandpa hand spreading salt on the small squares every layer in the hay-mow. Our barn still standing to this day. Could be completely bull sh!t LOL
I don’t think so. Animals love it when this is done
The salt would absorb the water to keep the moisture and animals love salt so I think it was a good idea.
As a farmer that bales a lot of hay. The salt can help if it is on the edge moisture wise because as the hay heats up the salt will absorb the condensation that causes it to combust.