the fact ariza horry fisher and cooper made this team over nixon wilkes exel jones ceballos bynum heck even odom elden vlade is pretty sad...like come on bill.stop it...nixon wilkes ceballos exel jones elden bynum odom all avg 17-21 for la...give me that over 13 3 and 3..im sorry....or 7 5 2 1 and 1 which were horrys stats in 2000 and 2001 combined..come on now...you gotta build the best team of the past 40 years not some random hogepodge of guys ..I hate when people do that...its hypocrisy somehow lebron for instance makes the team even though he had no role in his 1 year there yet you gotta give horry credit and then coop and start him?..wtf?...its just a mess..you cant just pick random dudes pick the best dudes then lebron makes it..if you going with sentimentality he doesnt.....totally stupid..its a chance to educate people on these forgotten great lakers and he chooses the dumb ones people online know..smdh….seriously fisher horry weren't even better than fox in 2001 or 2002 real talk cooper was a bench player
nikosvault and forgets that everyone involved in that game shot horribly. Forgets to mention Kobe’s 15 rebounds and clutch passing and defense that sealed the game for the lakers
yeah james worthy over cooper sf .duh...you put magic kareem worthy kobe gasol together with shaq as a 6th man...I dont even know man...no one is beating them....they just fit..worthy kobe gasol kareem magic ..jesus christ thats a perfect 5 skill set wise and three of those guys could really defend
Fuckin A. Big Game James was the man! No way LA wins the 1988 Finals against Detroit without Worthy. That 36-16-10 triple double in Game 7 was beautiful.
YES!!!!!!!! The wine bottle team was my favorite video you guys made and what got me interested in The Ringer, to see you guys bringing it back warms my soul
2001 fisher and fox and horry lol?...no way...2001 kobe was still young too...and shaq started getting lazy...that bench is horrible....the corpses of mid 90's role players in shaw grant and harper a young ty lue lol a very young devan george raw still and then nobodies like rider mark slava mike and gregg on the 3rd string its a overrated team..
Probably go with Coop for the starting 2, and haven't watched the whole video... but Eddie Jones would need to get a look at this spot. Especially for the modern game.
LOLOLOL thats some good shit. I've been a constant reader and fan of Bill Simmons since the AOL days, but I always find it a hoot when someone breaks his balls like that 😂🤣
Most other teams don't have enough legends to do this with because the Lakers and the Celtics are the only teams that had multiple dynasties/sustained peaks
Last time I checked, Lakers won 1/3rd of their titles when they were Minneapolis in the 40s and 50s, and part time plumbers, so I guess those don't count either.
@@14thCaptain I know you caught my sarcasm there but I'll play along. Can you check to see how many titles the Lakers have the last 50 years? You know since I'm clearly a moron that can't figure it out.
Watched some of the 1980 finals recently. Kareem in terms of fluidity and ability to rise over the defense and score 2 at will is incredible. I’m not totally sure Shaq was better in 2001.
Wild that the history is so rich, it was an hour of Laker greats (albeit part comedy) and Jerry West, Elgin Baylor, and Wilt Chamberlain are barely even mentioned.
i don't think the cast understands one ball theory. There are only so many shots and touches to go around and bill put kareem, magic and kobe in the starting five. James worthy does not stand out offensively when you compare him to these all time greats. as a 4th option he would average 13-18 points a game as a play finisher, be unable to space the floor and play mediocre defense. do they really need him? He is without a doubt a better basketball player than michael cooper but with building a team putting the best offensive players together wont make the best squad. Chemistry, roles and egos are important.
C- Kareem- 1980-The Captain knows how to make the most of any scoring opportunity. PF- Karl Malone- 2004- He didn't need the ball, he was hungry and played great defense. He can set picks, rebound, and do the dirty work to help Kareem. He can also score with the best of them. (Besides how can you not have a front court of the three highest scoring players). Think of a Magic/Malone Pick and Roll with Bryant and James on the wings and Kareem under the basket. SF- Lebron James- 2020- I realize he played point guard, but has experience as a small forward. He can do it all and is a great running mate for everyone on this list. (James, Bryant and Johnson are big perimeter players). SG- Kobe Bryant - 2003- His highest 3 point % and young enough to run and play with the team. PG- Magic Johnson- 1987- Really beginning the highest point of his prime.
Alltime Lakers Squad- No LeBron and AD. 1. Magic Johnson, 2. Jerry West 3. Kobe Bryant , 4. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, 5. Shaquille O’Neal. Bench- Elgin Baylor, Wilt Chamberlain James Worthy, George Mikan, Pau Gasol, Michael Cooper, Byron Scott , Derek Fisher, Lamar Odom, Robert Horry,, Andrew Bynum, Ron Artest, AC Green, Kurt Rambis. Head Coach - Pat Riley
Jason is wrong. Kareem and Pau would eat anybody that the Warriors could throw at them. Durant and Draymond would get pushed around without being able to touch them.
this list is easy magic kobe worthy pau kareem starting all at their natural positions no less bench: 6th man shaq wilkes nixon scott jones odom exel and by today's rules you can have 13 players suit up and play in a game instead of 12 so how about 2012 all star bynum..done ...honorable mentions for the last 40 years of lakers b ball at least lebron ceballos ad but hes not played yet and elden
First team: Magic, Kobe, Lebron, AD, Shaq Second team: Jerry West, Elgin Baylor, James Worthy, Pau, Kareem Third team: Fisher, Byron Scott, Lamar Odom, Robert Horry, Wilt coach: Pat Riley no other team in the league is touching this lol
Mebbe get Wilmore to read the memo next time. You're supposed to be picking vintages, dude. OR perhaps he's the kind of guy who answers 'pizza' when asked what his fave flavour of pizza is.
Lakers Water bottle Team. 1. Magic Johnson , 2. Kobe Bryant , 3. LeBron James, 4. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, 5. Shaquille O’Neal. Bench- Jerry West, Elgin Baylor, James Worthy, Wilt Chamberlain, George Mikan, Pau Gasol, Anthony Davis, Michael Cooper, Byron Scott, Derek Fisher, Lamar Odom, Rick Fox, Robert Horry, Andrew Bynum, AC Green, Kurt Rambis.
starting 5 is easy....2002-2003 mvp finals mvp tim duncan at pf 1994-1995 mvp david robinson at center 2016-2017 kawhi leonard top 3 in mvp voting at sf is a scary frontline with 2008-2009 playoffs in particular top 8 in mvp tony parker at pg and 1981-1982 top 5 in mvp george gervin at sg who avg 32 ppg lol...6th man 2007-2008 manu ..you give pop those 6 guys for 2 years he can go 164-0 and then 32-0 in the playoffs...easily...
Bill Simmons Celtics wine bottle team. The 86 Celtics starting 5. Parrish, McHale, Bird, Angie, D. Johnson....everyone else have a seat on the bench! Garnett, P. Pierce, R. Allen, Rondo, Perkins, Maxwell, Walker with red coaching.
Do these guys not understand the concept. He’s building a team not putting the best 5 out there. For instance, Van Lathan arguing about Worthy makes no sense. You have Kobe, Kareem, And Pau where are the touches coming from? On his second team he can run the floor and score off the bench, Bill also mentions he would be a crunch time player. 🤦♂️
2005-2008 kobe wasn't mention by these kobe stans over 2010?...this is how you know these people are dumb..2005-2008 kobe was amazing...stop it..just cause you win a title doesnt mean you were at your peak you just had the right team....2010 kobe was not him at his peak neither was 03 neither was 09..it was 2005-2008..anywhere in there he was flawless as a player...trust me I know.....which is why it sad he couldn't win at his peak...if he had the right team around him from 2004-2007 he may have won it all 3 years in a row vs anyone
I actually like the comparison of Kareem as Jay-Z. He’s successful and there might be times where guys like Nas might be better. But no one has his body of work.
Ariza is a weird pick. I really liked him but Artest did more to win in the 2010 playoffs than Ariza did in 2009. Especially game 7 in the finals. Everyone points to Kobe's bad shooting night, (everyone had a bad shooting night and other than Odom's 8 points off the bench there were like 5 bench points from each team. I think only one Celtic scored off the bench. It was a VERY tight game.) Artests big 3, and Gasols 19 and 18 night. But Artest had 20 points and had about the only decent field goals percentage that night. Artest really won that game for the Lakers. If your going to put Ariza on, you might as well put Eddie Jones or some other random. I'd probably put Artest in for Ariza and you obviously want Fisher for his leadership and that intangible something and Horry for his almost miraculous ability to hit big shots and win championships. I'm not sure I'd replace anyone. However, if I had one more pick, or maybe even replace Fisher because there is obviously plenty of leadership on this team and hes not a traditional, fast, shifty point gaurd and his defense is suspect or Artest because with Lebron, Worthy, Kobe, Cooper, Artest isnt going to get playing time. The one thing this team is missing, its one hole, is a small, fast, traditional point guard that can pass and score and, this might be going out on a limb here, but the Lakers have never been very successful in finding or fielding such traditional point guards that were actually good so... Nick Van Exel? Yeah, you don't need Artest with Lebron, Worthy, Kobe, Cooper, so replace him with Nick Van Exel. He's not the best player available but he fills a hole no one else does. He could run around with the other teams small, fast, shifty back up point guard, something that Fisher never could, (the amount of times Fisher got smoked by a teams back up point gaurd just because that guy was fast and shifty...) pass, score, shoot and not make a fool of himself running the offense.
Honestly, there are so many dumb fans who don't know how good Pau Gasol is. For half of 2009, easily an MVP candidate while Kobe was out. He was the best power forward behind Dirk Nowitzki from 2008-2010. Destroyed Dwight Howard, who at the time, was the best defensive player in the league and likely the third best player in the world behind Kobe and Bron. Cannot wait to see his jersey retired so he gets the respect he deserves.
Adding to the momentum. More wine bottle teams inter-franchise and intra-franchise! Great in the book, great on video. Rotate interviewees based on subject. Pull in a former player or two. Great work. Not a Laker fan, but stop disrespecting Worthy.
this list is easy magic kobe worthy pau kareem starting all at their natural positions no less bench: 6th man shaq wilkes nixon jones james exel ceballos and by today's rules you can have 13 players suit up and play in a game instead of 12 so how about 2012 all star bynum..done ...honorable mentions for the last 40 years of lakers b ball to odom scott cooper vlade and elden ..just cant get you guys into that team as of yet...if I had to choose a 14th-16th man it would be odom scott and elden..cooper and vlade just didn't impress me as lakers stats wise
michael cooper is probably in the 23-28 range of best lakers at best if we count davis ... and bill has him that high lol ..like I can name 22 better lakers...lebron magic kobe shaq wilt nixon wilkes west mikan goodrich baylor worthy gasol bynum odom ceballos exel jones scott campbell vlade davis, hes there with fox fisher ariza artest in that mid 20's range imo….
The guy with the glasses is overestimating the 2001 Lakers. Yes they're a good team but you're taking them over a fucking handpicked all-star team from a 40 year period with Magic and Kareem, Pau etc? Lmfao. Yea have fun with Rick Fox. Clown.
He's joking. the dude is a massive, massive spurs fan and that team swept the spurs in the WCF, so he's making a joke about it. Admittedly a long, sorta drawn out joke, but I think it worked alright
to be fair, if you're going to say that the lakers' Minneapolis titles are bullshit, then so are most of the Celtics' titles, since most were won when there were like 2 teams in the league and most of the players were in the NBA as a side-gig...(full disclosure, not a laker fan)
Pau Gasol is better than James Worthy. Not as a laker, but period. Big Game James should not start over Pau. Without Pau Kobe has 2 less rings. Pau is a top 45 player all time. James Worthy should not be in anyones top 50 unless they are Lakers or "80s was best basketball" af
Starting 5 to play in TODAY'S NBA: Shaq, Worthy, Kobe, West, Magic. Off the bench: Wilt, Gasol, Baylor, Odom, Fisher, Cooper, Artest. Lebron and Davis don't count yet.
40:30 I would definitely take 2010 Ron Artest over 2009 Ariza! He was a more talented overall player, a beast defensively and he won them 2 crucial playoff games that year. In Game 6 of the WCF vs the Suns, he snagged a clutch rebound and put in a buzzer beater, and Game 7 vs Boston that they went over. Ariza is a solid player but Artest was just a beast. I don't think the Lakers would've won in 2010 without him. Also I love the idea of Shaq off the bench. He'd be so mad that the coach thought he wasn't "the most dominant big man ever" that he'd just destroy every rim in the game! lol
Some nostalgia bias about James Worthy by a few of these people. The man couldn’t rebound well enough to be a 4 in today’s game and couldn’t shoot well enough to play the 3. Both Gasol and Cooper are better picks
At some point you have to apply special rules to making an All-Time Lakers team. They just have way too many All-Timers who played there for a limited part of their career. No one really wants to put Lebron on there, people aren't talking about Wilt, etc. Just make the ruels so that you had to have played more years for the Lakers then any other team, or something like that.
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More wine bottle teams
Bill really just trolled the Lakers for an hour and it was hilarious all the way through. Truly masterful work here
the fact ariza horry fisher and cooper made this team over nixon wilkes exel jones ceballos bynum heck even odom elden vlade is pretty sad...like come on bill.stop it...nixon wilkes ceballos exel jones elden bynum odom all avg 17-21 for la...give me that over 13 3 and 3..im sorry....or 7 5 2 1 and 1 which were horrys stats in 2000 and 2001 combined..come on now...you gotta build the best team of the past 40 years not some random hogepodge of guys ..I hate when people do that...its hypocrisy somehow lebron for instance makes the team even though he had no role in his 1 year there yet you gotta give horry credit and then coop and start him?..wtf?...its just a mess..you cant just pick random dudes pick the best dudes then lebron makes it..if you going with sentimentality he doesnt.....totally stupid..its a chance to educate people on these forgotten great lakers and he chooses the dumb ones people online know..smdh….seriously fisher horry weren't even better than fox in 2001 or 2002 real talk cooper was a bench player
Asmosis Jones the fact that your response is this long proves that he’s done his job lmao
@@razkable Bynum. Lmao. You have no idea how good Michael Cooper was.
So basically, Pau Gasol made the starting five so that Simmons could remind us of Kobe's 6/24.
yep
And calls Pau awsome in G7 despite shooting 6-16.
nikosvault and forgets that everyone involved in that game shot horribly. Forgets to mention Kobe’s 15 rebounds and clutch passing and defense that sealed the game for the lakers
Charles Riordan don’t forget Kobe’s finger was broken and in a cast on his shooting hand. Still had 28 ppg that series and played great defense.
2009 pau was better...everyone knows that
@@bigolehamburger173 cool, 6/24 in the finals has no excuse
Van Lathan: Where's James Worthy on this?
Ringer: Not in the starting lineup...
Van Lathan: 22:56
yeah james worthy over cooper sf .duh...you put magic kareem worthy kobe gasol together with shaq as a 6th man...I dont even know man...no one is beating them....they just fit..worthy kobe gasol kareem magic ..jesus christ thats a perfect 5 skill set wise and three of those guys could really defend
Fuckin A. Big Game James was the man! No way LA wins the 1988 Finals against Detroit without Worthy. That 36-16-10 triple double in Game 7 was beautiful.
YES!!!!!!!! The wine bottle team was my favorite video you guys made and what got me interested in The Ringer, to see you guys bringing it back warms my soul
"Like the way Obi-Wan Kenobi allows himself to be killed" 😭😭😭
Jerry West: “Am I a f*ckin joke to you”
Elgin too
This is from the last 40 years. West retired already
heyyoo heyyooo missed that! *quietly retracts*
Bill got that red wine flush in this episode
I like how Bill chose the version of Kobe that snitched on Shaq.
"One of the great... _coke_ _fiends_ in NBA history" LOL
Shea Serrano killed me the whole time!!!!😂😂😂😂😂
He was in a zone lol had me dying every time he was on camera!
@@Juice-ig3jz lmao!!! The 2001 Lakers!!!
@@t-rex1634 2001 Lakers swept his Spurs thats why
@@ElBrillante4 The 2001 Lakers swept everyone lmao
Shea Serrano has some of the smartest terrible takes ever
I think thats his niche and why I think hes endlessly funny I love it personally.
2001 fisher and fox and horry lol?...no way...2001 kobe was still young too...and shaq started getting lazy...that bench is horrible....the corpses of mid 90's role players in shaw grant and harper a young ty lue lol a very young devan george raw still and then nobodies like rider mark slava mike and gregg on the 3rd string its a overrated team..
Lol That's why I hate him. The 99-2002 lakers were pretty top heavy. The 80s Lakers had 2-3 HOFers coming off the bench!
He's such a fuck face. He has no business having this job
Thanks so much for this wonderful video! Hope to hear Larry Wilmore on the BS Podcast mid season giving Bill the business!
Why is Dr J dunking on Kareem in his highlight?
37:13 to 37:18 that didn’t age well Lmaoo
Probably go with Coop for the starting 2, and haven't watched the whole video... but Eddie Jones would need to get a look at this spot. Especially for the modern game.
Larry and Shea had me cracking up lmaoo
TH-cam search: bill simmons 2010 game 7
LOLOLOL thats some good shit. I've been a constant reader and fan of Bill Simmons since the AOL days, but I always find it a hoot when someone breaks his balls like that 😂🤣
love this please do more teams!!
Most other teams don't have enough legends to do this with because the Lakers and the Celtics are the only teams that had multiple dynasties/sustained peaks
elkresurgence spurs and warriors
Elden Campbell was awesome ... so skilled and under appreciated
Last time I checked the Celtics won most of their championships when players were also part time plummers
Last time I checked, Lakers won 1/3rd of their titles when they were Minneapolis in the 40s and 50s, and part time plumbers, so I guess those don't count either.
@@MerkinMuffly last I checked, the Celtics have 1 title in the last 50 years
@@aarond7245 Double check then, they have 7 rings in the last 50 (69, 74, 76, 81, 84, 86, 08)
@@14thCaptain I know you caught my sarcasm there but I'll play along. Can you check to see how many titles the Lakers have the last 50 years? You know since I'm clearly a moron that can't figure it out.
@@aarond7245 at least one more than they would have had without the refs fixing for them
Watched some of the 1980 finals recently. Kareem in terms of fluidity and ability to rise over the defense and score 2 at will is incredible. I’m not totally sure Shaq was better in 2001.
Starters
PG: 1984 Magic
SG: 2007 Kobe
SF: 1988 James Worthy
PF: 2009 Pau Gasol
C: 2000 Shaq
Bench
2020 Lebron James
1972 Jerry West
2020 Anthony Davis
1980 Kareem
2004 Derek Fisher
2002 Robert Horry
2010 Lamar Odom
Starting 5: 2000 shaq, 2018 lbj, 1965 elgin baylor, 2008 kobe, 1987 magic.
Bench: 1980 Kareem (finishing games because shaq and free throws), 2009 pau, 1988 James worthy, 1963 Jerry West, 2010 Ron artest, 2004 Derek Fisher, 1969 Wilt Chamberlain
This dude put lebron 🤣🤣🤣
@@no6021 He also put 2008 Kobe. Lol. Like why?
@@no6021 Oh and 1969 Wilt! 🤦♂️😆
Need more wine bottle teams, love hearing everyone react to bill's irrational and hilariously biased picks
87 Magic
09 Kobe
20 LeBron
80 Kareem
00 Shaq
61 West
60 Baylor
20 AD
87 Worthy
01 Fisher
That’s the Team
Can you do this with more teams, celtics or bulls maybe, great content👍
lmao i died at dangelo russell inclusion
where the hell is Jerry West ?
Only lakers from the past 40 years, not all time
Scott over Jerry West (unless nothing exists before 1980) is probably the secret biggest troll to the Laker fans
Wild that the history is so rich, it was an hour of Laker greats (albeit part comedy) and Jerry West, Elgin Baylor, and Wilt Chamberlain are barely even mentioned.
40 year team - 79-80 to present
i don't think the cast understands one ball theory. There are only so many shots and touches to go around and bill put kareem, magic and kobe in the starting five. James worthy does not stand out offensively when you compare him to these all time greats. as a 4th option he would average 13-18 points a game as a play finisher, be unable to space the floor and play mediocre defense. do they really need him? He is without a doubt a better basketball player than michael cooper but with building a team putting the best offensive players together wont make the best squad. Chemistry, roles and egos are important.
21:27 we need to save the word "infectious" for everyone BUT Magic Johnson cmon
03 Kobe was spot on! I said it out loud before he even said it.
He forgot about that kobe on the other list I like to think I reminded him.
C- Kareem- 1980-The Captain knows how to make the most of any scoring opportunity.
PF- Karl Malone- 2004- He didn't need the ball, he was hungry and played great defense. He can set picks, rebound, and do the dirty work to help Kareem. He can also score with the best of them. (Besides how can you not have a front court of the three highest scoring players). Think of a Magic/Malone Pick and Roll with Bryant and James on the wings and Kareem under the basket.
SF- Lebron James- 2020- I realize he played point guard, but has experience as a small forward. He can do it all and is a great running mate for everyone on this list. (James, Bryant and Johnson are big perimeter players).
SG- Kobe Bryant - 2003- His highest 3 point % and young enough to run and play with the team.
PG- Magic Johnson- 1987- Really beginning the highest point of his prime.
Bench: Derek Fisher, Michael Cooper, James Worthy, Pau Gasol, and Shaq
Kobe 03 to 06 was just unstoppable. My god.
Showtime Lakers are stacked with talent from top to bottom. People don't talk about that enough.
I was really surprised how much Flea knows about basketball
Its honestly hilarious how the lakers fans just want the biggest stars on the team instead of an actual functioning team
Alltime Lakers Squad- No LeBron and AD. 1. Magic Johnson, 2. Jerry West 3. Kobe Bryant , 4. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, 5. Shaquille O’Neal. Bench- Elgin Baylor, Wilt Chamberlain James Worthy, George Mikan, Pau Gasol, Michael Cooper, Byron Scott , Derek Fisher, Lamar Odom, Robert Horry,, Andrew Bynum, Ron Artest, AC Green, Kurt Rambis. Head Coach - Pat Riley
Jason is wrong. Kareem and Pau would eat anybody that the Warriors could throw at them. Durant and Draymond would get pushed around without being able to touch them.
this list is easy magic kobe worthy pau kareem starting all at their natural positions no less bench: 6th man shaq wilkes nixon scott jones odom exel and by today's rules you can have 13 players suit up and play in a game instead of 12 so how about 2012 all star bynum..done ...honorable mentions for the last 40 years of lakers b ball at least lebron ceballos ad but hes not played yet and elden
First team: Magic, Kobe, Lebron, AD, Shaq
Second team: Jerry West, Elgin Baylor, James Worthy, Pau, Kareem
Third team: Fisher, Byron Scott, Lamar Odom, Robert Horry, Wilt
coach: Pat Riley
no other team in the league is touching this lol
Mebbe get Wilmore to read the memo next time. You're supposed to be picking vintages, dude. OR perhaps he's the kind of guy who answers 'pizza' when asked what his fave flavour of pizza is.
October 22 2019 will be a good future vintage in this format, for Ringer content
86 Magic
08 Kobe
19 LeBron
88 Worthy
00 Shaq
12 Nash
97 Eddie Jones
99 Glen Rice
06 Lamar Odom
80 Kareem
09 Artest
15 Lou Williams
For today's modern game. Shooting, Defence, Bball IQ, Shaq/Cap.
Bill Simmons I will pay you good money to do this for every single NBA team
My all-time Lakers team:
Jerry / Magic / Kobe / Shaq / Kareem
Bench: Goodrich / Elgin / Jamaal Wilkes / Worthy / Mikan // Robert Horry / Vern Mikkelsen
Lakers Water bottle Team. 1. Magic Johnson , 2. Kobe Bryant , 3. LeBron James, 4. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, 5. Shaquille O’Neal. Bench- Jerry West, Elgin Baylor, James Worthy, Wilt Chamberlain, George Mikan, Pau Gasol, Anthony Davis, Michael Cooper, Byron Scott, Derek Fisher, Lamar Odom, Rick Fox, Robert Horry, Andrew Bynum, AC Green, Kurt Rambis.
Let Shea select his own Spurs Wine Bottle Team
starting 5 is easy....2002-2003 mvp finals mvp tim duncan at pf 1994-1995 mvp david robinson at center 2016-2017 kawhi leonard top 3 in mvp voting at sf is a scary frontline with 2008-2009 playoffs in particular top 8 in mvp tony parker at pg and 1981-1982 top 5 in mvp george gervin at sg who avg 32 ppg lol...6th man 2007-2008 manu ..you give pop those 6 guys for 2 years he can go 164-0 and then 32-0 in the playoffs...easily...
Where is Jerry west? His stats are better than Kobe and he never had a 3 point line also he was all nba defender, recency bias
It’s a list of Lakers from the last 40 years.
Jerry West played more than 40 years ago you goober
Nice bait mate.
Bill Simmons Celtics wine bottle team. The 86 Celtics starting 5. Parrish, McHale, Bird, Angie, D. Johnson....everyone else have a seat on the bench! Garnett, P. Pierce, R. Allen, Rondo, Perkins, Maxwell, Walker with red coaching.
Do these guys not understand the concept. He’s building a team not putting the best 5 out there. For instance, Van Lathan arguing about Worthy makes no sense. You have Kobe, Kareem, And Pau where are the touches coming from? On his second team he can run the floor and score off the bench, Bill also mentions he would be a crunch time player. 🤦♂️
Most of the Celtics rings came when the League was 99.9% out-of -shape white guys and Boston had the only black guy (Bill Russell)
Van Latham is def in the starting five. Had me dying all show😂😂😂
80 was Kareem's last great year? wtf?
2005-2008 kobe wasn't mention by these kobe stans over 2010?...this is how you know these people are dumb..2005-2008 kobe was amazing...stop it..just cause you win a title doesnt mean you were at your peak you just had the right team....2010 kobe was not him at his peak neither was 03 neither was 09..it was 2005-2008..anywhere in there he was flawless as a player...trust me I know.....which is why it sad he couldn't win at his peak...if he had the right team around him from 2004-2007 he may have won it all 3 years in a row vs anyone
@@razkable his best year easily was 03
Bill bring back the wine bottle teams!
I’m super late to this video but I’m confused why I haven’t heard the words, “West” or “Baylor.”
Lakers are the signature team of the nba 10 titles since 1980
I actually like the comparison of Kareem as Jay-Z. He’s successful and there might be times where guys like Nas might be better. But no one has his body of work.
Magic, Kobe, LeBron, Kareem, and Shaq is the right answer.
We need the Celtics Wine Bottle team!!!
Bill the Celtics won all their Chps in another league when thier were Jim Crow laws. STAAAP
So true
Kai Moreno yes they won 5 and the Celtics won 13.... 13!!!!!!!!!!! Stfu dummy
Ariza is a weird pick. I really liked him but Artest did more to win in the 2010 playoffs than Ariza did in 2009. Especially game 7 in the finals. Everyone points to Kobe's bad shooting night, (everyone had a bad shooting night and other than Odom's 8 points off the bench there were like 5 bench points from each team. I think only one Celtic scored off the bench. It was a VERY tight game.) Artests big 3, and Gasols 19 and 18 night. But Artest had 20 points and had about the only decent field goals percentage that night. Artest really won that game for the Lakers. If your going to put Ariza on, you might as well put Eddie Jones or some other random. I'd probably put Artest in for Ariza and you obviously want Fisher for his leadership and that intangible something and Horry for his almost miraculous ability to hit big shots and win championships. I'm not sure I'd replace anyone. However, if I had one more pick, or maybe even replace Fisher because there is obviously plenty of leadership on this team and hes not a traditional, fast, shifty point gaurd and his defense is suspect or Artest because with Lebron, Worthy, Kobe, Cooper, Artest isnt going to get playing time. The one thing this team is missing, its one hole, is a small, fast, traditional point guard that can pass and score and, this might be going out on a limb here, but the Lakers have never been very successful in finding or fielding such traditional point guards that were actually good so... Nick Van Exel? Yeah, you don't need Artest with Lebron, Worthy, Kobe, Cooper, so replace him with Nick Van Exel. He's not the best player available but he fills a hole no one else does. He could run around with the other teams small, fast, shifty back up point guard, something that Fisher never could, (the amount of times Fisher got smoked by a teams back up point gaurd just because that guy was fast and shifty...) pass, score, shoot and not make a fool of himself running the offense.
Honestly, there are so many dumb fans who don't know how good Pau Gasol is. For half of 2009, easily an MVP candidate while Kobe was out. He was the best power forward behind Dirk Nowitzki from 2008-2010. Destroyed Dwight Howard, who at the time, was the best defensive player in the league and likely the third best player in the world behind Kobe and Bron.
Cannot wait to see his jersey retired so he gets the respect he deserves.
Adding to the momentum. More wine bottle teams inter-franchise and intra-franchise! Great in the book, great on video. Rotate interviewees based on subject. Pull in a former player or two. Great work. Not a Laker fan, but stop disrespecting Worthy.
2nd pick 6:03
Larry mini rant 6:57
3rd 12:10
4th 17:40
5th 22:18
25:00 second Larry rant
25:40 bench
29:40 2nd off bench
33:40 3rd
36:10 4th
38:28 third Larry rant
40:15 5th
42:53 6th
46:25 7th
Reserves 48:48
49:55
51:14
52:33
53:35
Coach 54:42
elsuenosalvadoreno thank you bro
Finally,somebody put respect of Pau name.
This was fantastic
flea is right. agree
the biggest injustice that they couldn't get Jerry West into the starting 5. Like what in the blue hell
Escuse me but, didn't Worthy play the 3?... So it's Pau or AC Green, or Horace Grant...or one legged Karl Malone. Easy choice.
Lebron at the 4. Dude is a point forward.
Flea knows more about basketball than 99% of espn analysts
No Nick van exel, No Eddie Jones.
I was hoping I'd see Nick on the bench tbh. Shame he forgot about Eddie too.
this list is easy magic kobe worthy pau kareem starting all at their natural positions no less bench: 6th man shaq wilkes nixon jones james exel ceballos and by today's rules you can have 13 players suit up and play in a game instead of 12 so how about 2012 all star bynum..done ...honorable mentions for the last 40 years of lakers b ball to odom scott cooper vlade and elden ..just cant get you guys into that team as of yet...if I had to choose a 14th-16th man it would be odom scott and elden..cooper and vlade just didn't impress me as lakers stats wise
No Bob Mcadoo the real 1st stretch big man.
I would rather hear someone I love beg for their life while being murdered than listen to Bill Simmons talk about the Lakers.
The disrespect for Eddie Jones is real
no mikan, west, goodrich, baylor?
Pau Gasol is so underrated.
I love the Pau pick because of how tight it made the Lakers fans.
closed the tab when I saw trevor ariza highlights...
I fell like Simmons is just using this as a platform to troll Lakers fans.
michael cooper is probably in the 23-28 range of best lakers at best if we count davis ... and bill has him that high lol ..like I can name 22 better lakers...lebron magic kobe shaq wilt nixon wilkes west mikan goodrich baylor worthy gasol bynum odom ceballos exel jones scott campbell vlade davis, hes there with fox fisher ariza artest in that mid 20's range imo….
Minneapolis titles count cuz its the same franchise... its one thing if LA claimed them but its the franchise
The guy with the glasses is overestimating the 2001 Lakers. Yes they're a good team but you're taking them over a fucking handpicked all-star team from a 40 year period with Magic and Kareem, Pau etc?
Lmfao. Yea have fun with Rick Fox. Clown.
He's joking. the dude is a massive, massive spurs fan and that team swept the spurs in the WCF, so he's making a joke about it. Admittedly a long, sorta drawn out joke, but I think it worked alright
to be fair, if you're going to say that the lakers' Minneapolis titles are bullshit, then so are most of the Celtics' titles, since most were won when there were like 2 teams in the league and most of the players were in the NBA as a side-gig...(full disclosure, not a laker fan)
1987 Magic
2001 Kobe
1969 Jerry West
2020 AD
2000 Shaq
Bench:
1977 Kareem
2020 Lebron
1962 Elgin
72 Wilt
72 Goodrich
More wine bottle teams!
No lamar odom?
flea is the goat laker fan
Looks like a meth-head.
Pau Gasol is better than James Worthy. Not as a laker, but period. Big Game James should not start over Pau. Without Pau Kobe has 2 less rings. Pau is a top 45 player all time. James Worthy should not be in anyones top 50 unless they are Lakers or "80s was best basketball" af
Shea spitting nothing but TRUTH
Starting 5 to play in TODAY'S NBA: Shaq, Worthy, Kobe, West, Magic. Off the bench: Wilt, Gasol, Baylor, Odom, Fisher, Cooper, Artest. Lebron and Davis don't count yet.
40:30 I would definitely take 2010 Ron Artest over 2009 Ariza! He was a more talented overall player, a beast defensively and he won them 2 crucial playoff games that year. In Game 6 of the WCF vs the Suns, he snagged a clutch rebound and put in a buzzer beater, and Game 7 vs Boston that they went over. Ariza is a solid player but Artest was just a beast. I don't think the Lakers would've won in 2010 without him.
Also I love the idea of Shaq off the bench. He'd be so mad that the coach thought he wasn't "the most dominant big man ever" that he'd just destroy every rim in the game! lol
Some nostalgia bias about James Worthy by a few of these people. The man couldn’t rebound well enough to be a 4 in today’s game and couldn’t shoot well enough to play the 3. Both Gasol and Cooper are better picks
I would go like this
87 Magic Johnson
72 Jerry West
08: Kobe
88: James Worthy
80: Kareem
He needs to do this for the Celtics
I think he will eventually but he’s saving it for something
At some point you have to apply special rules to making an All-Time Lakers team. They just have way too many All-Timers who played there for a limited part of their career. No one really wants to put Lebron on there, people aren't talking about Wilt, etc. Just make the ruels so that you had to have played more years for the Lakers then any other team, or something like that.
That was great fun! Now let's do the Clippers!
He should do one for Celtics too
Apex mountain Shea Serrano right here
37:12 Well, that aged badly huh Bill?
So would 2020 lebron or AD have a chance for this?
22:50 lol