Hey there Diva, current employee at Walt Disney World here…. Everything in this movie is something our parks REALLY try to avoid. If we have audience participation, it’s from the guests who WANT to join in on the action. Or if it’s spontaneous like monsters Inc laugh floor, it’s very brief. The costumes for characters have a certien design element, like Mickey is normally smiling, but the way his head tilts, one is for pictures and others are nuteral… and on top of that, we never try to dumb things down for the kids. We try to make kids and adults feel special and included, but never in a condescending manner. I saw a kid talk to Alice about having Tarts, and not only was alice in character, she was acknowledging the kid’s feelings and making sure she wasn’t condescending. As for the non talking ones like Mickey, they can be little scamps at times but it’s never in a mean or threating way. Basically this film is a good teaching tool for new Disney people. Basically whatever you see here, do the oppsite of that
"Pixar always has the triumph of good over evil, but why does there have to be evil in the first place?" There doesn't have to be evil, but there has to be CONFLICT. Characters want something BUT are being kept from it through external-forces, an individual acting against them, their own mindset, or an entire society. This is storytelling 101. The biggest hurdle the Oogieloves had to overcome was a milkshake-contest. The Barney movie wasn't this childish, holy crap. I think the "why does there have to be evil?" thing is because Kenn is a marketing-guy and doesn't want to get sued or get angry-letters from parents.
I never had kids myself, but I have a number of great nephews and two great nieces (one of whom was born earlier this month), I know from experience that it takes a long time for toddlers (my oldest great nephew is turning six in September) to process emotions constructively. Meanwhile they are learning that there will be conflicts (with siblings, parents work schedules, etc.) and that the world doesn't completely revolve around them. The notion that life isn't always fair (and that bad things happen to good people) comes earlier than you think. That's why stories and animated features (like, say, Beauty and the Beast and Toy Story) have been popular for years now. So kids growing up can learn how to deal with conflict.
@@TrueBuddhaCatEspecially because Miyazaki took a different approach to conflict. In My Neighbor Totoro and Kiki’s Delivery service, the conflict stems from the characters’ personal flaws and obstacles they encounter in the world around them rather than a typical big baddie.
I don't think it's fair to put Dora and the Lost City of Gold in the same category as Elmo in Grouchland and the Paw Patrol movies considering that was aimed at an older audience.
Just looking at that picture of Kay-Eee-Double-Enn, you just know he's a complete moron and total douchebag. And a nightmare for everybody who has to work with him.
12:51 Kenn Veiselman's mealy-mouthed "Why is there evil in stories? Why can't it all be nice?!" argument is infuriating, and really goes to show what an embarrassingly clueless hack he is. Now, are there kid-friendly movies with no actual villains? As much as it pains me to say it, yes, there are. There are no major villains in the "Winnie the Pooh" cinematic universe (there were some VERY mild baddies in the 80s animated series, but that's it) or in "My Neighbor Totoro". In "Pollyanna", our heroine has antagonists, but they're not evil, just flawed and misguided. The massively crucial differences? 1. Stories that grab your interest with no major villains or antagonists are the exception, not the rule. 2.The aforementioned films have no villains... but there ARE conflicts. Amidst all the mild whimsy, Pooh and his friends have to learn valuable morals like moderation, cooperation, kindness, and tolerance. The townspeople in "Pollyanna" (especially her aunt) are made to realize how wallowing in negativity isn't the way, and that Pollyanna's optimistic philosophy has altered their lives for the better. "Totoro" only has one real conflict, but it's a doozy: a potentially fatal illness that might take the girls' mother from them. Maybe all stories don't need evil, per se, but there DO need to be stakes. There HAS to be a reason for us to care what's going on. Annoying, one-note characters dithering around on a lame-brained quest with no conflict, no themes, and no arc for 90 minutes would even try Donna's patience!
That's just it. "Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood" (and its spiritual successor, "Daniel Tiger's Neighborhood"), is very low-key and gentle but still deals with conflicts and are honest about feelings like anger, sadness, and fear. It speaks to the inner lives of children in a way that this movie can't begin to understand.
@@MusicalHellMr Rogers believed that kids could handle difficult situations and topics as long as adults explained things and in a way that they could comprehend. He managed to teach kids about the concept of death using a pet goldfish and didn’t make it scary either.
Have you seen “The Owl House”, “Amphibia”, “Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings”, “Hazbin Hotel”, “Arcane”, “Hilda”, “She-Ra and the Princesses of Power”, “Centaurworld”, “The Sea Beast”, “Nimona”, “Kipo and the Age of Wonderbeasts”, “Wish”, “The Ghost and Molly McGee”, and/or “Wolfwalkers”?
The book version of Alice in Wonderland has a very conceptual “villain” when you think about it and it actually isn’t the Queen of Hearts like everyone claims as it is explicitly explained that “off with his/her/their heads” isn’t actually a threat and no one is actually being killed and for all we know it could mean just getting a haircut. Everyone seems to forget that absolutely nothing in Wonderland is the same as it is in the real world and anything is possible down there. The villain is actually the concept of living a life full of pure chaos and nonsense and that you need rules in life in order to not be living in a constant state of confusion and frustration. Alice is constantly getting annoyed by the wackiness and backwards society of Wonderland that she keeps trying to make sense of it all and enforcing logic to everything that happens which doesn’t work.
@@MusicalHell I agree with you but, say you say what you will about country bears and how it was not your favorite thing at least it was not this .at least to me it was not boring and I enjoy it but I don't love this, this is a insult to Pixar and disney movie animated series and the fact that a guy who was a executive on this movie and did not understand what's a villan is is an insult to intellectual brains that gives us stories in fairy tales and sci fi stories is a slap to the face . We have Luke Skywalker a hero and he was able to get his father to go back to the light side of the force . He does even the guts to face the emperor who is in fact the real villan of star wars even in the new bad ones and I think Vader didn't like the twist . The guy who was Darth Vader didn't like the twist and that's saying something. Even though I don't do musical movies but will watch them .this movie we both agree stinks and it doesn't know how creepy it is and all the celebrities are not used well . I rather watch all the disney animation ones and the Jim Henson Muppets 100million times then see this of vomiting teletobes number 2 regents . To me if I rate this movie ,I give it a 0 % on 100million scale.
12:54 Kenn…a lot of Pixar movies don’t even have villains. They’re often just as much if not much more about the internal lives and struggles of their main characters.
I can’t stand Pixar’s movies, and even I was forced to jump in to argue against that logic. Like holy crap, just how DENSE can someone be on that topic?
"If I wanted a song about milkshakes, I'll stick to 'Can't Stop the Music'... BECAUSE CLEARLY THERE'S A GUN TO MY HEAD, FORCING ME TO MAKE THIS CHOICE!"--Brad "The Cinema Snob" Jones.
"This movie is for that one guy who wishes his Rocky Horror interactive screening was a lot more like Baby Geniuses. And even that guy probably didn't show up to this!"
Spill, back when it existed, had the most amazing review of this. Korey and Co-Host's description of the events that unfolded just baffled poor Leon and it lead to one of my favorite quotes from Co-Host: "Oh my Oogie God!". And Korey had the best reaction to Toofie's pants falling down. He said "Get this mf'er a belt or some rope or something! Cause i'm sick of his pants falling down almost looking like he gangsta Oogie and s**t!"
The only saving grace is that this movie gave us one of the greatest comebacks in angry review history; Zuzie: "This is the most amazing movie EVER!" Brad "Cinema Snob" Jones (before the #ChangeTheChannel controversy): "YOU'RE BIASED!"
Personally my favorite part of his review was him explaining that it was the pillow's Schloopy's birthday and him being like "that's a sentence I just said"
Mine was in response to Goofy Toofy's pants dropping again: "I will staple them TO YOUR GODDAMN ASS!!" I might not watch his videos anymore but this movie does illicit an abundance of frustration.
12:50 Because a story without conflict is boring. The greater the conflict the more engaging your story is. 14:10 This man was in "The Princess Bride"...this man was the lead in "Robin Hood: Men in Tights"...he was probably in some other high profile films too that I'm not cultured enough to name them off the top of my head, but the point remains this man is a dignified actor. Look how they've massacred him!! 😭
Can’t a story just be kind of short with a smaller conflict. I mean that’s kind of like what my daydream scenarios are like although, even though I put a lot of conflict in with high stakes like this massive death generator being controlled by this crazed bird villain, who can’t see past his own hubris and thus he’s pretty idiotic, but is hell-bent on getting revenge on a person who singed off his tail feathers and the tribe he is connected to
@@cartooncritique6625 I see well the stories I make are mostly just for when I’m bored or when I wanna think about something interesting or to get my mind off of stressful situation I do put a lot of thought into it but I’m not making a movie out of it. I’m just probably gonna write a fanfiction, and even then I think all of us like to snuggle up at the end of the day and listen to a nice simple story
I hear Toni Braxton was the only one who did this movie for more than just a paycheck. I hear she agreed to do this movie because she had a young child who really liked Teletubbies.
@@avalasialove It’s true. She wanted to do something her young son could enjoy and see his mother performing. And it makes sense as most of her music is about love and heartbreak and a three year old isn’t going to understand it let alone enjoy it. Toni was the only one in the movie that seemed to be into her role and actually enjoying being a part of the movie. Her performance is almost so bad it’s good material. Almost.
What child is going to understand the J. Edgar Hoover reference? And before anyone says that was a joke for the adult audience, what adult would want to watch this with their child? That’s like saying that an adult would willingly watch something as inane as Barney or Teletubbies, those shows weren’t family friendly, they were for toddlers alone! You got this, Diva. Remember what Donna said, you’re very, very close to something.
When I was way younger, I told my dad that in England they hoover instead of vacuum. He asked me if they cross dress while cleaning. I did not get the joke.
I think Kenn used the logic that sometimes the kids will make their parents watch with them so it was like a harmless adult joke would be like an easter egg for them. Conveniently it also takes much less work to make a throwaway in joke than go the Pixar method of actually making the movie enjoyable for adults.
3 year olds can't really go to the movies by themselves. They can't drive the car or take the bus to the theater, they don't have any money, and I sure as hell wouldn't trust them running around unsupervised anywhere, let alone a theater. So they have to throw in something to get the parents interested. Usually, say something like Sesame Street would put in a bunch of parodies or sly, snappy dialog, or some general appeal to their younger selves. This threw in something not even smart or clever enough to call itself a dad joke. At best, something for Back to the Future completists that have to see EVERYTHING with Christopher Lloyd in it.
Ladies and gentlemen: after almost 140 cases, she’s finally done it. She’s finally touching the train wreck that we’ve ALL wanted her to cover for the entire run of this show. God have mercy on this poor woman.
It's the kiddie musicals and Wal-Mart cartoons that are pushing her over the edge. The doctor prescribes one nice, purging, therapeutic review of an actual theatrical 60's-80's musical next. (C'mon, with those groany Neil Diamond VW ads on the air, aren't you even a LITTLE curious about the 1980 "Jazz Singer", Deev?)
What every blackmailed - oh sorry "guest" Star looks like they're thinking: Cloris Leachman - "For my grandkids, and oh please no more" Chazz Palminteri - "Pain! Pain! Let's get out of here afterwards" Toni Braxton - Tired and uninterested Carey Elwes - Smashed drunk, high, and trying to hide all regrets! Jamie Pressly - "Whatever." Christopher Lloyd - Dead inside.
Toni actually signed up just so her toddler son could enjoy something she has done which I guess is a reasonable excuse given the nature of her usual work.
This reminds me of the South Park Chinpokomon episode when Sharon says that children’s entertainment that is flat-out stupid can be worse for children than any kind of vulgarity. I wholeheartedly agree.
You know a film is bad when Diva starts having a crisis of her own court's punishment system at the end of the review. My sympathies go out to the braincells she had to sacrifice to watch this drek. I saw this on a livestream around 2015 or so, and thought it was the most inane thing I've ever seen. And this is coming from someone who had to watch A Troll in Central Park during a housesitting job for someone's 7 year old daughter and 5 year-old son. *shudder* May I never hear the words "I want more goldfish!" again...
Basically, Oogieloves was proof that, contrary to popular belief, it's possible to insult a modern preschooler's intelligence. And I grew up watching shows like Sesame Street and Mr. Rogers, so I know how good this type of entertainment is when done right (like in the "Bluey" cartoon series).
Even shows like Bear in the Big Blue House, Littlest Pet Shop, Oswald, Sofia the First and even MLP:FIM (before it started going downhill) are better than this.
@@tylerfish2701 I was a big fan of MLP:FiM, particularly the first five or so seasons (though I also liked later seasons, just not as much). Arthur was really good too.
4:04 Theory: Big Brother Mirror Lady is an unfortunate soul who, under some form of immortal punishment, is forced to be in/watch this movie unfold against her will. Diva can probably relate.
I strongly believe this movie make the Doodlebops look like Panic at the disco. The Wiggles now look like the Beatles. And the Imagination Movers look like the Monkees
No disrespect, but she had kind of an "every pay cheque is a good pay cheque" approach to her profession. I don't think she was ashamed of having been in some awful crap that counterbalanced her truckloads of prestigious awards.
@@MetaFoxx278 At least playing a villain is always fun, and that character was silly. This...................I don't even want to look!!! This is one way to make someone hate circles!
What you said reminds me of Steve Byrnes's theory on why Barney is so hated while other kids' characters are believed. Characters on Sesame Street can be vulnerable, neurotic, they deal with problems, they teach coping. Then you have Barney who just sluffs off problems and is happy to the point of deranged.
Elmo in grouchland did a better job being an interactive movie released in theaters. Also, seeing Toys “R” Us Time Square at 1:05 makes me wish that store comes back.
12:53 1) That is because Pixar Movies aren't aimed at preschoolers they are aimed at elementary schoolers to adults 2) Pixar has had a lot of morally grey characters 3) I am guessing he never watched Finding Nemo. Nobody was evil in that movie.
This movie is like- What if Rocky Horror Picture Show was more like Baby Geniuses? And boy does it show in more ways than one. The celebrities don’t want to be there, the guys in the suits look miserable, the suits themselves are butt ugly, the humor falls flat on its face, and the camera angles are awful! It seems although a lot of talent and budget went into this film, it doesn’t know who its audience wants to be. Because the kids have to have the parents take them to see this movie and sit through it with the children. Such a waste of Christopher Lloyd and Clorice Leechman 😔 They wanted to make a Teletubbies movie, but the director couldn’t get the rights, so he made his own type of movie. Which, is almost exactly what happened with Baby Geniuses as well. Bob Clark wanted to make a Rugrats movie, couldn’t succeed in getting the rights, so he rounded up a bunch of people who had worked with him previously or had wanted to work with him, got himself some 40 babies, and made a movie. And 25 years later, nobody remembers any of it.
Some of these scenes with Cary Elwes made me think he mugged as much possible hoping to change the look of his face so people wouldn't notice it was him.
@@JeffreyPiatt True, although I do have a soft spot for the Peter Cushing Who films. Back in the old days, the BBC had a cavalier attitude to films being made of their shows, they just authorised it willy-nilly, from sci-fi horrors like The Quatermass Experiment to sitcoms like Dad's Army and Steptoe and Son. All that changed after Pennies From Heaven, where MGM were able to dictate terms and prevent the BBC from showing the original series again. This eventually led to the BBC starting their own film division so if anyone wanted to make a film based on a BBC property, the BBC could at least have some say and a piece of the cake.
Well at least these celebrity hostages aren’t visibly upset or drunk in the movie like Vivica A Fox and Erik Estrada are in the first Cool Cat movie. Erik clearly has been drinking a lot to get through filming as he is actually slurring when he says his lines.
Musical Hell 10 sins count (as of March 2024): 2012 - From Justin to Kelly 2013 - Love Never Dies 2014 - Spice World 2016 - Glitter 2017 - Beauty and the Beast: The Enchanted Christmas 2019 - The Mighty Kong, Z-O-M-B-I-E-S, and Elf Bowling: The Movie 2022 - Music (first and only episode to go beyond 10 sins) 2023 - Charming 2024 - The Oogieloves in the Big Ballon Adventure
The funny thing is, Thomas The Tank Engine is one of the more under-sung gems, in the realm of solid children's entertainment that doesn't treat its audience like idiots - even and perhaps *especially* its American release as "Shining Time Station" (notorious film conclusion aside). Watch it to see one-role-wonder Brian O'Connor play a better ham AND a better character than everyone in Oogieloves combined, or Didi Conn, in what should have been an Oogieloves-ian "I haven't had real work since Grease" role, instead convince you that she was born to play maternal role models. It was a good lean into enthusiasm for its subject and quiet dignity. If only Kenn Viselman had been paying closer attention.
Kenn Viselman has absolutely no idea what he's talking about. I mean, he's a marketing executive so it makes sense, but all those quotes from him really shows that he really misses the mark when it comes to children's entertainment. Also, to quote Cinematic Excrement at 2:12, "Let's not count that chicken before it hatches, okay?"
I saw his name on the poster and immediately "Oh dear God WHY? HOW? WHY?" I don't think even a saving-grace-of-bad-movies presence like Tim Curry could make this show bearable. Note: I was writing out this reply *before* I heard Diva's Enchanted Christmas name-drop at 8:42, so it even further proves my point.
...I've finally found a film I can show to my mother and go "see? there are worse films I could have brought home from the library than Barney's Great Adventure!"
Yay! A fellow Bobsheaux fan! His review of this disaster was how I first heard of it. So, when I saw Diva would be reviewing this, I knew it was gonna be painful.
I didn't realize the Oogielove movie was so... Recent. It feels like it belonged in the era of Banannas in Pajammas. But that show was comparatively wonderful with my nosgalgia glasses on. Maybe because it knew it had to be short.
Oooh boy, this makes the Care Bears look like high art. I love how they have a white woman doing Flamenco, which is actually from Spain, while they all travel around in a Mexican sombrero.
If the Oogieloves and Pooh from Blood and honey were in the same room with me, i'll ask him to kill me so i can't hear their annoying voices anymore. Their giant eyes are terrifying and they rarely moves their mouth, makes thoses creatures scarier than a crazy killer with a Pooh mask 😂
Oogieloves is like those dreams you have when you have a nap in the middle of the day and you realize you don’t know if it was a real thing or not. In a bad way
After so many years, Diva finally covers the Oogieloves. Now the world waits in bated breath for the answer to the ultimate question: will she cover Our Drawings?
The raccoons in the kitchen: probably a sort of referring to the mistaken belief raccoons wash their food (that is why in Dutch they are called 'wasberen', washbears). I think.
"Do any of us ever learn our lessons?" And with that, the stage for Diva's swan song review is set. Considering next month's review is (unless things have changed) going to be Diva's last day in court, it's fitting that her final two cases should be about the grand puba of bad children's movies and a movie that's all about lost souls in Hell facing judgement for their sins.
@@janebyrne6463Sadly it might be - I know Diva's been dropping hints for the last few years about hanging up her cloven hooves, so it's likely to be the end; that said, I wonder if Diva might make a few cameos in future years, y'know, for auld lang syne...
Fun fact: I recently learned that "create your own Circle of Hell for a 'modern day' sin" is actually a fairly common creative writing assignment for high school and college students reading the Divine Comedy. I've seen several examples, ranging from just as humorous as this show - a mini-circle for people who stick gum on the undersides of tables - to very serious - a new addition to the Circle of Violence for those who caused violence through negligence; the punishment is being fused into a cliff face (as they chose to take no action in life, now they can't do it even if they want to) and its most prominent inmate is the UN Secretary General during the 90s who refused to intervene in either Rwanda or the Balkans. As for this film itself... so, this was made by someone who was actively TRYING to create this Family Guy gag? th-cam.com/video/TS1Upcpl_1U/w-d-xo.html
I've worked tech crew on Sesame Street Live!, Disney Junior Live!, Paw Patrol Live!, Nickelodeon Jr Live!, Disney on Ice, and Blippi Live! so believe me when I say that I feel I am qualified enough to deem this the most vapid, monotonous, tuneless piece of media created for children ever. What a fever dream of a movie 😵💫
“Kenn Viselman’s main claim to fame was bringing Thomas The Tank Engine to US TV.” Wow, he is a massive liar! The man who ACTUALLY brought Thomas to the US was a man known as Rick Siggelkow. Rick partnered with Britt Allcroft (The woman responsible for bring Thomas to TV in the first place) and made Shining Time Station.
I remember seeing an ad for this in one of my National Geographic kids magazines and being absolutely confused because I thought the oogieloves was a tv show getting their own movie and it was going to be like up because they had the characters holding a ton of balloons and floating away.
I had the same thing. I remember seeing them on these magazines. I didn't go see it, obviously. I was probably too busy being with my family in Alaska when it came out. Speaking of which, I wonder what would happen if I just... you know, forced them to survive its wilderness? Sort of, just plop them in the Alaskan wild, with probably just a knife, hunting ammunition, a rifle, and a homestead in the harsh, almost Arctic weather? See if they'll either survive, or starve, or get killed by either wolves or bears.
This doesn't even look like a movie. This looks like of one of those live stage shows they make of children's cartoons. It has the actors in the costumes that don't move right, the interactive dance breaks. Except I know children who enjoy the live stage shows of their favorite cartoons.
Kenn had his hands in Thomas the Tank Engine, but, judging by this movie, he clearly did not take any advice in regards to children's entertainment. One of the things that made the early seasons of Thomas special is that the crew chose not to talk down to their audience. Even Reverend Wilbert Awdry (author of The Railway Series, which Thomas is based on) has once said "You've got to remember who you're writing for. You're not merely writing for children. You're writing for the unfortunate people who've got to read the stories over, and over, and over again."
Saw a review of this a few years ago, and spirits, I still can't believe this actually EXISTS! How in the world did they get all these celebrities to participate?! There is little more disgusting in the long run than a kids costume-puppet series that talks down to its audience. This is the distinction between shows like this and Freaking Barney ... and a Sid & Marty Krofft production. The Kroffts don't talk down to the kids and their shows are still entertaining for adults. And not just because we're still very convinced everyone was high while filming the Krofft shows. Wait - that WOULD explain why THIS thing exists....
The structure isnt based on a 3 act structure, its based on video game progression. "We need (x) amount of (y) items to save the day! Will you come on the adventure?" And then its just a series of events where they collect each item until they have all the items.
Fun fact: This movie did so bad that it was exclusively released for purchase at Walmart. Yeah, you read that correctly. Freaking Walmart was the only store where you could find this movie, and that’s if you could find it in the bargain bin pile. 😂😂😂 I was hanging out with our cousins at the time, and our aunt, for some reason, decided to put this on for the youngest one (the “target” audience). Yeah, he wasn’t even paying attention to the movie, while us older ones were just witnessing how painfully bad and upsetting the whole thing was, and wondering just WHY did anyone think this is theatrical material? More than anything we criticized just how ugly the costumes were, especially the Oogies themselves, how annoying the musical numbers were written, and just how stupid the movie was overall. It’s THE definition of a condescending movie, that thinks even kids are stupid.
The ' Why can't it all be nice?' thing makes me want to roll my eyes into the back of my head for many reasons. One is that having a serious ( more or less ) conflict ( doesn't have to necessarily be evil ) makes a story easier to engage with and more interesting. It also gives the protagonists actual motivations.
12:02 I am ashamed to say I honestly giggled at the absurdity of Toni Braxton's slow jam about having a cold; makes me long for Vanessa Williams' Queen of Trash song in Elmo in Grouchland ('cause at least *that* movie *knew* how to use its cameos right!).
You know, Carey Elwes was also in the Disney dub of Ghibli's "Porco Rosso", and I'd probably say he pulls off a decent American accent (also along with Elwes, we have Michael Keaton, Kimberly Williams, Susan "Megara" Egan, and Disney regular Brad Garrett).
The problem with a movie like this is that the target age demographic is so young (toddlers) that the brand would need to be a phenomenon on its own before it could be successful in the box office. The toddlers this would appeal to are too young to just see a trailer and beg their parents to see it and remember that they asked to see this two minutes after asking. Toddlers have to be obsessed with a thing to be that consistent/make parents feel it's worth it, otherwise parents, who won't want to sit through this anyway, won't feel any obligation to take them to the theater. However, I think Kenn truly believed that his film would appeal to kids of all ages not at all understanding the differences in development, or that Pixar's target demographic isn't toddlers.
I suspect by the midpoint in your script, your spellchecker was having a seizure. "Schloopy" "Goobielove", etc... I'm going into sugar shock just typing that.
before it came out i remember seeing an advertisement for this movie in a magazine at a doctors office. when i first saw the advert i thought the movie was gonna either be a perversion/parody of a kids film or be “deceptively childlike” (like strays, death to smoochy, ted, sausage party, etc). i guess i was baffled by a film for toddlers and toddlers alone coming to theaters, that wasn’t already part of a huge franchise like barney or paw patrol or w/e
Unless it’s a RiffTrax or MST3K or Rocky Horror Picture, then that’s fine Although if it’s an aggressively bad movie that people paid good movie for, yeah I can understand the frustration
@@supermariof0521While Rick Sigglekow and Britt Allcroft were the ones who made Shining Time Station, it was Kenn who suggested bringing Thomas to the US. I think I read somewhere that he was also the one who suggested bring George Carlin on the show after Ringo Starr left.
19:18 funny you mention that when in ABC's broadcasting of "Peter Pan live" they wanted people to post #SaveTinkerbell all over social media in order to save Tink..
Not to mention that at least Blue's Clues has the approval of older viewers too. It's pretty much a classic among preschool shows (Can't say the same about Cailliou and Peppa Pig though)
Diva, ya did it again!! I swear, you make my month!! I never ever thought you would ever take this on! Don't know how you got through it period! Devil's Carnival? Never heard of it. Should be really good.
This movie has confounded me since its inception. There is NO reason this movie could have been anything more than a failure. Preschool franchise theatrical movies are never successful, and not even Follow that Bird or Elmo in Grouchland, two heavy hitters from a MAJOR and influential preschool series. Barney's movie pretty much killed his franchise (thank goodness for that). And again, those are BIG names in the industry. Oogieloves looks like it's 15+ years out of date, looking like a public access Barney knockoff from the 90's with cheap mascot suits that couldn't even pass for a mid-level budget series. And that's even if they had a name presence outside the movie. There is a certain level of hubris to give them the movie introduction when this was barely low quality DTV series at best. The kind of video you'd only see at a close out store already in the clearance bin with like 5 layers of discount sticker on it. There was NO way this was going to be a name brand thing if they couldn't go the more reasonable TV series route first. I REALLY want it to be the case that they did try to sell it as a TV series, but no one wanted an ancient relic looking series when they have nice, clean, futuristic CGI models...also talking down to kids like they're complete idiots. So basically, already it had several things going against it. No name recognition, out of touch, and pandering to an audience more suited to home video. Already a bad idea? Let's pile on more. Encouraging 3 year olds to be hyperactive and express bad behavior in a movie theater (something they basically do already)? Check. I mean, they gave out WANDS! Light up wands to see the movie. It's bad enough the movie was annoying as it was, nay, the CHARACTERS were annoying as it was. Now we have a bunch of bratty little toddlers running up and down the aisles with big flashing plastic straws, swinging them around, while a bunch of obnoxiously precious named mutant Cabbage Patch Dolls sing off key with B and C listers doing their best impersonations of bad amusement park stage performers. What part of that was appealing to ANYBODY? It never felt like it was a "come and plan your family a fun day of entertainment" like even mid level kid's movies do. It was a "hey kids! Scream and cry and throw a temper tantrum until you wear your parents down and drag them miserably," situation. And even then, no takers. At BEST, this would have been a DVD next to the checkout register at a very small regional grocery store chain that completely out of touch Grandma would get for a 2 year old's birthday. Right next to the "Enchanting Tales" Disney movie cash ins.
@@debbieganger Dude. FTB is adjacent to the Muppet Movie Holy Trilogy of The Muppet Movie, Great Muppet Caper, and Muppets take Manhattan in Muppet Fandom circles. Like the unofficial fourth movie. An undeniable, rightfully beloved classic and proof you can do a preschool movie RIGHT. But initial box office was depressingly low for such a well regarded film, even though it did its business on home video, and years later. Elmo in Grouchland couldn't even ride the Tickle Me fame to a decent Box Office. And like I said, Sesame Street is a world renown brand, and even it couldn't get little kids and their parents in the seats. So basically a no-name series that only had an obscure DTV presence (before the buy out and rename) , and then like one bad PSA )post buyout) wouldn't have stood a chance. It was hubris and stupidity not to make this a TV series first. Plus, I feel bad for Christopher Lloyd having to be in this. Dude was freakin' Doc Brown.
I have seen the face of madness, and it is green, yellow, and purple... Also, it honestly was sobering to hear Diva sound so defeated at the end. When you're so used to her sentences, you can tell how much of a hole there is when she doesn't even bother and just cuts off.
10:54 Don't know if it's possible, since this movie was made in the USA, but in many countries, including my own, raccoons are called "washing bears", so it might be another pun?
One was a horrific experience which scarred those unfortunate enough to be subjected to it in both body and mind, that you wouldn't wish upon your most reviled enemy. The other was 'Saw'.
I remember watching the cinema snob's review of this movie and when the Hoover guy laments how these were the last magical balloons in Lovelyville, he had the best response. "That sounds like whole lot of not my f*cking problem!" But yeah, I wonder why go through all that effort for a pillow who seems to be comatose most of the movie. You can give him a rubber band as a gift and it would probably have the same affect.
Her appearance on The Nanny is actually quite hilarious because Lambchop hits on Maxwell and she is *really* horny. There’s also a video on TH-cam where Sherri and Lambchop are doing a stand up routine and the puppet is completely drunk.
The Ooogielove characters look like the disturbing, gone-wrong love children of the Doodlebops and the Sid the Science Kid friend group, who were then later raised by the Cabbage Patch Kids for some odd unknown reason. 😬
I remember the Nostalgia Critic reviewing the second Care Bears movie and that had audience participation in the climax. I can still hear him shouting “I believe in Santa Christ!”
"And if you've ever wanted to see a bunch of overgrown 4 year olds do sensual flamenco dancing..." I can assure both you and the FBI agents watching that I most certainly do not.
Aside from Elmo in Grouchland, another movie for preschoolers that is basically a better version of Oogieloves is "Miffy The Movie" [sic], based on the children's book character of Miffy the bunny. It may have similar problems like the lack of an actual story (as it just revolves on Miffy and her friends going on a treasure hunt through the zoo) and talking down to its audience at some points. However, its stop motion animation is basic yet visually charming, and the characters have actual arcs on which they face their fears.
This movie was long overdue for it's trial here in the Infernal court! It was one of those movies that utmost certainly deserves the level of vitirolic scrutiny it faced from various reviewers in the past. Sure, I get it; getting worked up at a movie geared towards babies/really young children is the epitome of low-hanging fruit, but at the same time, I and many other people still stand by the belief that just because something is geared towards children; doesn't give it an immediate free pass from criticism. And this movie should serve as a go-to example of why you shouldn't just feed children whatever 2-cent bargain bin schlock to keep them occupied.
The *only* reason I believe that there was no blackmail involved in the casting of this is that there is no possible way Toni Braxton or Cloris Leachman have ever done anything bad enough that it getting out would be worse than being in this movie.
OK saying this was originally intended to be a teletubbies movie makes some sense. The window instead of the Sun Baby/the tubbies getting visions on their stomachs, J Edgar instead of The Noo-Noo etc.
Hey there Diva, current employee at Walt Disney World here…. Everything in this movie is something our parks REALLY try to avoid. If we have audience participation, it’s from the guests who WANT to join in on the action. Or if it’s spontaneous like monsters Inc laugh floor, it’s very brief. The costumes for characters have a certien design element, like Mickey is normally smiling, but the way his head tilts, one is for pictures and others are nuteral… and on top of that, we never try to dumb things down for the kids. We try to make kids and adults feel special and included, but never in a condescending manner. I saw a kid talk to Alice about having Tarts, and not only was alice in character, she was acknowledging the kid’s feelings and making sure she wasn’t condescending. As for the non talking ones like Mickey, they can be little scamps at times but it’s never in a mean or threating way.
Basically this film is a good teaching tool for new Disney people. Basically whatever you see here, do the oppsite of that
Agreed it’s great that the park employees do an Impressive job
Well said ❤
We don't deserve you guys
The cast members make the magic
Thank you for the work you do in creating magical experiences for children and adults alike!
"Pixar always has the triumph of good over evil, but why does there have to be evil in the first place?"
There doesn't have to be evil, but there has to be CONFLICT. Characters want something BUT are being kept from it through external-forces, an individual acting against them, their own mindset, or an entire society. This is storytelling 101.
The biggest hurdle the Oogieloves had to overcome was a milkshake-contest. The Barney movie wasn't this childish, holy crap.
I think the "why does there have to be evil?" thing is because Kenn is a marketing-guy and doesn't want to get sued or get angry-letters from parents.
Exactly 😅 stories have to have conflict to be entertaining
I never had kids myself, but I have a number of great nephews and two great nieces (one of whom was born earlier this month), I know from experience that it takes a long time for toddlers (my oldest great nephew is turning six in September) to process emotions constructively. Meanwhile they are learning that there will be conflicts (with siblings, parents work schedules, etc.) and that the world doesn't completely revolve around them. The notion that life isn't always fair (and that bad things happen to good people) comes earlier than you think. That's why stories and animated features (like, say, Beauty and the Beast and Toy Story) have been popular for years now. So kids growing up can learn how to deal with conflict.
Is it me or is the creator of this atrocious movie deeply religious?
Pretty sure Don Bluth and Miyazaki would like a word with Ken on his idea of “storytelling”
@@TrueBuddhaCatEspecially because Miyazaki took a different approach to conflict. In My Neighbor Totoro and Kiki’s Delivery service, the conflict stems from the characters’ personal flaws and obstacles they encounter in the world around them rather than a typical big baddie.
You know it's a bad sign when the Paw Patrol movies, Elmo in Grouchland, and the live-action Dora the Explorer movie got better reviews than this.
Unlike the PAW Patrol films and "Dora and the Lost City of Gold", "The Adventures of Elmo in Grouchland" was a box-office bomb.
I don't think it's fair to put Dora and the Lost City of Gold in the same category as Elmo in Grouchland and the Paw Patrol movies considering that was aimed at an older audience.
@@andrewbloom7637 So?
Even Barney's Great Adventure, despite getting panned critically, also got better reviews!
Elmo in Grouchland is a banger.
"The idea of interactivity isn't new, but the idea of interactivity in the theater is."
Yeah, Kenn - tell THAT to us MST3K fans....
Just looking at that picture of Kay-Eee-Double-Enn, you just know he's a complete moron and total douchebag. And a nightmare for everybody who has to work with him.
Kenn has obviously never been to a Rocky Horror screening and thrown toast at a movie screen.
12:51
Kenn Veiselman's mealy-mouthed "Why is there evil in stories? Why can't it all be nice?!" argument is infuriating, and really goes to show what an embarrassingly clueless hack he is.
Now, are there kid-friendly movies with no actual villains? As much as it pains me to say it, yes, there are. There are no major villains in the "Winnie the Pooh" cinematic universe (there were some VERY mild baddies in the 80s animated series, but that's it) or in "My Neighbor Totoro". In "Pollyanna", our heroine has antagonists, but they're not evil, just flawed and misguided.
The massively crucial differences?
1. Stories that grab your interest with no major villains or antagonists are the exception, not the rule.
2.The aforementioned films have no villains... but there ARE conflicts. Amidst all the mild whimsy, Pooh and his friends have to learn valuable morals like moderation, cooperation, kindness, and tolerance. The townspeople in "Pollyanna" (especially her aunt) are made to realize how wallowing in negativity isn't the way, and that Pollyanna's optimistic philosophy has altered their lives for the better. "Totoro" only has one real conflict, but it's a doozy: a potentially fatal illness that might take the girls' mother from them.
Maybe all stories don't need evil, per se, but there DO need to be stakes. There HAS to be a reason for us to care what's going on.
Annoying, one-note characters dithering around on a lame-brained quest with no conflict, no themes, and no arc for 90 minutes would even try Donna's patience!
That's just it. "Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood" (and its spiritual successor, "Daniel Tiger's Neighborhood"), is very low-key and gentle but still deals with conflicts and are honest about feelings like anger, sadness, and fear. It speaks to the inner lives of children in a way that this movie can't begin to understand.
@@MusicalHellMr Rogers believed that kids could handle difficult situations and topics as long as adults explained things and in a way that they could comprehend. He managed to teach kids about the concept of death using a pet goldfish and didn’t make it scary either.
Have you seen “The Owl House”, “Amphibia”, “Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings”, “Hazbin Hotel”, “Arcane”, “Hilda”, “She-Ra and the Princesses of Power”, “Centaurworld”, “The Sea Beast”, “Nimona”, “Kipo and the Age of Wonderbeasts”, “Wish”, “The Ghost and Molly McGee”, and/or “Wolfwalkers”?
The book version of Alice in Wonderland has a very conceptual “villain” when you think about it and it actually isn’t the Queen of Hearts like everyone claims as it is explicitly explained that “off with his/her/their heads” isn’t actually a threat and no one is actually being killed and for all we know it could mean just getting a haircut. Everyone seems to forget that absolutely nothing in Wonderland is the same as it is in the real world and anything is possible down there. The villain is actually the concept of living a life full of pure chaos and nonsense and that you need rules in life in order to not be living in a constant state of confusion and frustration. Alice is constantly getting annoyed by the wackiness and backwards society of Wonderland that she keeps trying to make sense of it all and enforcing logic to everything that happens which doesn’t work.
@@MusicalHell I agree with you but, say you say what you will about country bears and how it was not your favorite thing at least it was not this .at least to me it was not boring and I enjoy it but I don't love this, this is a insult to Pixar and disney movie animated series and the fact that a guy who was a executive on this movie and did not understand what's a villan is is an insult to intellectual brains that gives us stories in fairy tales and sci fi stories is a slap to the face . We have Luke Skywalker a hero and he was able to get his father to go back to the light side of the force . He does even the guts to face the emperor who is in fact the real villan of star wars even in the new bad ones and I think Vader didn't like the twist . The guy who was Darth Vader didn't like the twist and that's saying something. Even though I don't do musical movies but will watch them .this movie we both agree stinks and it doesn't know how creepy it is and all the celebrities are not used well . I rather watch all the disney animation ones and the Jim Henson Muppets 100million times then see this of vomiting teletobes number 2 regents . To me if I rate this movie ,I give it a 0 % on 100million scale.
I truly think Christopher Lloyd demanded to have no lines in this movie hoping he wouldn't be recognized.
Ah, but he does have one line.
@@Kahran042does he? Well, I'll pretend they took it from an outtake without telling him.
@@Kahran042
What was it?
Honestly, his schtick made the movie a tiny bit more bearable.
To be fair, I doubt many of the toddlers watching this would know who he is anyway lmao
"Gewfy Tewfy- BUY A F*CKING BELT!" -cinema snob
I WILL STAPLE THEM TO YOUR GODDAMN ASS!!!
DO YOU LIKE BUBBLES?!
"I will staple them to your GODDAMN ASS!!"
Favorite quote of his review.
Well I’m just gonna put this out there…that I don’t think this movie was made for me
12:54 Kenn…a lot of Pixar movies don’t even have villains. They’re often just as much if not much more about the internal lives and struggles of their main characters.
I think he’s gettin’ it mixed up with WDAS.
@@austinreed7343 So…he can’t tell the difference between different mediums of animation?
@@johnvinals7423
Yeah…
More feasibly he only watch a handful of them like A Bug’s Life.
I can’t stand Pixar’s movies, and even I was forced to jump in to argue against that logic. Like holy crap, just how DENSE can someone be on that topic?
Turning red And elemental are. perfect examples of this.
This whole thing is so inane it genuinely feels like a fake kids' movie that would show up in the background of a real movie
"If I wanted a song about milkshakes, I'll stick to 'Can't Stop the Music'... BECAUSE CLEARLY THERE'S A GUN TO MY HEAD, FORCING ME TO MAKE THIS CHOICE!"--Brad "The Cinema Snob" Jones.
“Goofy Tooby, BUY A FUCKING BELT!!!”
One of my favorite Snob reviews. “This is the greatest movie *EVER.” “YOU’RE BIASED”
Don’t you have the Kelis classic right there?
"This movie is for that one guy who wishes his Rocky Horror interactive screening was a lot more like Baby Geniuses. And even that guy probably didn't show up to this!"
Ha! You saw that too! 😅
Spill, back when it existed, had the most amazing review of this. Korey and Co-Host's description of the events that unfolded just baffled poor Leon and it lead to one of my favorite quotes from Co-Host: "Oh my Oogie God!".
And Korey had the best reaction to Toofie's pants falling down. He said "Get this mf'er a belt or some rope or something! Cause i'm sick of his pants falling down almost looking like he gangsta Oogie and s**t!"
The only saving grace is that this movie gave us one of the greatest comebacks in angry review history;
Zuzie: "This is the most amazing movie EVER!"
Brad "Cinema Snob" Jones (before the #ChangeTheChannel controversy): "YOU'RE BIASED!"
Personally my favorite part of his review was him explaining that it was the pillow's Schloopy's birthday and him being like "that's a sentence I just said"
Mine is “Goofy Toofy BUY A F-ING BELT!”
My favourite part was his Cary Elwes impression: "YOU LAHK BURBBLES?!?! >8D"
Mine was in response to Goofy Toofy's pants dropping again:
"I will staple them TO YOUR GODDAMN ASS!!"
I might not watch his videos anymore but this movie does illicit an abundance of frustration.
It also gave Sean Moore a nice ringtone.
12:50 Because a story without conflict is boring. The greater the conflict the more engaging your story is.
14:10 This man was in "The Princess Bride"...this man was the lead in "Robin Hood: Men in Tights"...he was probably in some other high profile films too that I'm not cultured enough to name them off the top of my head, but the point remains this man is a dignified actor. Look how they've massacred him!! 😭
Can’t a story just be kind of short with a smaller conflict. I mean that’s kind of like what my daydream scenarios are like although, even though I put a lot of conflict in with high stakes like this massive death generator being controlled by this crazed bird villain, who can’t see past his own hubris and thus he’s pretty idiotic, but is hell-bent on getting revenge on a person who singed off his tail feathers and the tribe he is connected to
@@eaglejones856 I mean sure, but the point remains that a memorable story has to have a significant conflict.
@@cartooncritique6625 I see well the stories I make are mostly just for when I’m bored or when I wanna think about something interesting or to get my mind off of stressful situation I do put a lot of thought into it but I’m not making a movie out of it. I’m just probably gonna write a fanfiction, and even then I think all of us like to snuggle up at the end of the day and listen to a nice simple story
The celebrity actors were all kidnapped before agreeing to do this
Cary Elwes in this film really sums this up perfectly well.
Well at least they don’t have to deal with Crazy Daddy Derek like Vivica A Fox and Erik Estrada.
I hear Toni Braxton was the only one who did this movie for more than just a paycheck. I hear she agreed to do this movie because she had a young child who really liked Teletubbies.
@@avalasialove It’s true. She wanted to do something her young son could enjoy and see his mother performing. And it makes sense as most of her music is about love and heartbreak and a three year old isn’t going to understand it let alone enjoy it. Toni was the only one in the movie that seemed to be into her role and actually enjoying being a part of the movie. Her performance is almost so bad it’s good material. Almost.
@@thecinematicmind”blink twice if Jigsaw is making you do this.”
What child is going to understand the J. Edgar Hoover reference? And before anyone says that was a joke for the adult audience, what adult would want to watch this with their child? That’s like saying that an adult would willingly watch something as inane as Barney or Teletubbies, those shows weren’t family friendly, they were for toddlers alone!
You got this, Diva. Remember what Donna said, you’re very, very close to something.
When I was way younger, I told my dad that in England they hoover instead of vacuum. He asked me if they cross dress while cleaning. I did not get the joke.
I think Kenn used the logic that sometimes the kids will make their parents watch with them so it was like a harmless adult joke would be like an easter egg for them. Conveniently it also takes much less work to make a throwaway in joke than go the Pixar method of actually making the movie enjoyable for adults.
3 year olds can't really go to the movies by themselves. They can't drive the car or take the bus to the theater, they don't have any money, and I sure as hell wouldn't trust them running around unsupervised anywhere, let alone a theater. So they have to throw in something to get the parents interested. Usually, say something like Sesame Street would put in a bunch of parodies or sly, snappy dialog, or some general appeal to their younger selves. This threw in something not even smart or clever enough to call itself a dad joke. At best, something for Back to the Future completists that have to see EVERYTHING with Christopher Lloyd in it.
I got it, and I’m an adult.
So are we supposed to drop off toddlers to the cinema and leave them?
This is the final boss of all bad children's films.
Oh no, this is just one of the final bosses
The big ones are Fun in Ballonland and Santa and the Ice Cream Bunny
SANTA AND THE ICE CREAM BUNNIES is worse than… WHATEVER THIS IS?!? I don’t think so!
I wonder what kind of final boss is it? Bowser, Sephiroth, Ganon, Giygas, or whichever?
@@davidhileman8567 It's an insult to all of them to try and call this movie any of them.
@@TheHiddenDirector True. I was more thinking what kind of final boss would it be?
In the words of Arthur Read,
"THAT'S A BABY MOVIE!"
Even DW would be insulted by this movie.
@@MovieFan1912Considering she thought she was too old for The Love Ducks, which is that world’s equivalent of Teletubbies, that’s about right.
To quote Double-Toasted, “this movie isn’t for kids; it’s for stoners.”
@@SEGASister Oh my gosh, that Bad Movie Roast was hilarious.
Even DW would probably throw the DVD copy into a fireplace.
Ladies and gentlemen: after almost 140 cases, she’s finally done it. She’s finally touching the train wreck that we’ve ALL wanted her to cover for the entire run of this show. God have mercy on this poor woman.
It's the kiddie musicals and Wal-Mart cartoons that are pushing her over the edge.
The doctor prescribes one nice, purging, therapeutic review of an actual theatrical 60's-80's musical next.
(C'mon, with those groany Neil Diamond VW ads on the air, aren't you even a LITTLE curious about the 1980 "Jazz Singer", Deev?)
What every blackmailed - oh sorry "guest" Star looks like they're thinking:
Cloris Leachman - "For my grandkids, and oh please no more"
Chazz Palminteri - "Pain! Pain! Let's get out of here afterwards"
Toni Braxton - Tired and uninterested
Carey Elwes - Smashed drunk, high, and trying to hide all regrets!
Jamie Pressly - "Whatever."
Christopher Lloyd - Dead inside.
Toni actually signed up just so her toddler son could enjoy something she has done which I guess is a reasonable excuse given the nature of her usual work.
"I'm gonna get some candy. I'd rather rot my teeth than stay here and rot my brain!"
-Grandpa Lou
At least "Land Without Smiles" sounded like a decently dramatic movie.
I completely agree.
"How can a movie this inane be this confusing?"
Great line, very applicable to bad kids' entertainment
This reminds me of the South Park Chinpokomon episode when Sharon says that children’s entertainment that is flat-out stupid can be worse for children than any kind of vulgarity. I wholeheartedly agree.
You can almost hear Grandpa Lou Pickles shouting 'LAND WITHOUT BRAINS IS MORE LIKE IT!!!!'
12:54 I agree with you, not all children stories shouldn’t be all sugar coated they have to have dark edge to them.
You know a film is bad when Diva starts having a crisis of her own court's punishment system at the end of the review. My sympathies go out to the braincells she had to sacrifice to watch this drek. I saw this on a livestream around 2015 or so, and thought it was the most inane thing I've ever seen. And this is coming from someone who had to watch A Troll in Central Park during a housesitting job for someone's 7 year old daughter and 5 year-old son. *shudder* May I never hear the words "I want more goldfish!" again...
I never ever ever ever thought she would actually do this!
"Do any of us ever learn our lessons?" I think our favorite demon just had an identity crisis.
Basically, Oogieloves was proof that, contrary to popular belief, it's possible to insult a modern preschooler's intelligence. And I grew up watching shows like Sesame Street and Mr. Rogers, so I know how good this type of entertainment is when done right (like in the "Bluey" cartoon series).
Agreed. Bluey and pbs kids shows are great
Even shows like Bear in the Big Blue House, Littlest Pet Shop, Oswald, Sofia the First and even MLP:FIM (before it started going downhill) are better than this.
Seriously preschoolers are way smarter than people like the writers of this monstrosity give them credit for.
@@tylerfish2701 I was a big fan of MLP:FiM, particularly the first five or so seasons (though I also liked later seasons, just not as much). Arthur was really good too.
@@janebyrne6463 Totally fine for you. I was just disappointed with how it ended is all.
4:04 Theory: Big Brother Mirror Lady is an unfortunate soul who, under some form of immortal punishment, is forced to be in/watch this movie unfold against her will.
Diva can probably relate.
She was the only good part of this whole thing!!
I strongly believe this movie make the Doodlebops look like Panic at the disco. The Wiggles now look like the Beatles. And the Imagination Movers look like the Monkees
Oh my gosh, I forgot about the Doodlebops!
Thanks for reminding me of that.
Heyheyhey whoa now! Don’t insult those gems by comparing them to the Oogieloves!
Ay. Put some respect on Imagination Movers.
@@punkysnarks by associating them with the Monkees or this movie?
The Wiggles have an octopus who is known to have a garden.
RIP Cloris Leachman (1926-2021). You deserved far better than this.
Makes her role in A Troll In Central Park more of a redeemable role, really.
Just like how they have Savion Glover make a cameo in from Justin to Kelly. And he did the choreography for Happy feet!
No disrespect, but she had kind of an "every pay cheque is a good pay cheque" approach to her profession. I don't think she was ashamed of having been in some awful crap that counterbalanced her truckloads of prestigious awards.
@@MetaFoxx278 At least playing a villain is always fun, and that character was silly. This...................I don't even want to look!!! This is one way to make someone hate circles!
I was somehow unaware of this until now! I guess because Betty White died shortly before her so it kind of overshadowed it IDK
17:10
Am I the only one who now wants to commission art of Marty McFly looking absolutely dumbfounded at Doc Brown's new ride?
I truly think Christopher Lloyd demanded to have no lines in this movie hoping he wouldn't be recognized.
@@bigbearkat2010I hope he fired his agent after this.
@@bigbearkat2010
“Doc…are you telling me you built a time machine…..out of a sombrero?”
@@bigbearkat2010 If that’s the case, then it didn’t work
What you said reminds me of Steve Byrnes's theory on why Barney is so hated while other kids' characters are believed. Characters on Sesame Street can be vulnerable, neurotic, they deal with problems, they teach coping. Then you have Barney who just sluffs off problems and is happy to the point of deranged.
AniMat was right; you're already too old for this movie when you're born. This movie is indeed for ages sperm to fetus.
Wow, I honestly didn't think Oogieloves would break you so badly
It... It broke many of us.
At least Oogieloves is only insulting to one’s intelligence and not an entire community like Music.
@@kenthuang436Amen
@@erin6784I know. But she managed to make it through Music. I thought some insulting garbage like this would be nothing.
Elmo in grouchland did a better job being an interactive movie released in theaters. Also, seeing Toys “R” Us Time Square at 1:05 makes me wish that store comes back.
Plus Vanessa Williams has a much better cameo
12:53 1) That is because Pixar Movies aren't aimed at preschoolers they are aimed at elementary schoolers to adults 2) Pixar has had a lot of morally grey characters 3) I am guessing he never watched Finding Nemo. Nobody was evil in that movie.
Unless you count the angler.
@@nathanielpatterson-rc9dq Or the pipe-crabs ig
This movie is like- What if Rocky Horror Picture Show was more like Baby Geniuses? And boy does it show in more ways than one. The celebrities don’t want to be there, the guys in the suits look miserable, the suits themselves are butt ugly, the humor falls flat on its face, and the camera angles are awful! It seems although a lot of talent and budget went into this film, it doesn’t know who its audience wants to be. Because the kids have to have the parents take them to see this movie and sit through it with the children. Such a waste of Christopher Lloyd and Clorice Leechman 😔
They wanted to make a Teletubbies movie, but the director couldn’t get the rights, so he made his own type of movie. Which, is almost exactly what happened with Baby Geniuses as well. Bob Clark wanted to make a Rugrats movie, couldn’t succeed in getting the rights, so he rounded up a bunch of people who had worked with him previously or had wanted to work with him, got himself some 40 babies, and made a movie. And 25 years later, nobody remembers any of it.
Some of these scenes with Cary Elwes made me think he mugged as much possible hoping to change the look of his face so people wouldn't notice it was him.
BBC Studios has Standards. you don't mess with the royal IP. They learned with the Doctor.
@@JeffreyPiatt True, although I do have a soft spot for the Peter Cushing Who films.
Back in the old days, the BBC had a cavalier attitude to films being made of their shows, they just authorised it willy-nilly, from sci-fi horrors like The Quatermass Experiment to sitcoms like Dad's Army and Steptoe and Son. All that changed after Pennies From Heaven, where MGM were able to dictate terms and prevent the BBC from showing the original series again. This eventually led to the BBC starting their own film division so if anyone wanted to make a film based on a BBC property, the BBC could at least have some say and a piece of the cake.
Well at least these celebrity hostages aren’t visibly upset or drunk in the movie like Vivica A Fox and Erik Estrada are in the first Cool Cat movie. Erik clearly has been drinking a lot to get through filming as he is actually slurring when he says his lines.
Ohh, I'm afraid there's no forgetting that giant, freaky animatronic baby, thank you very much.
Musical Hell 10 sins count (as of March 2024):
2012 - From Justin to Kelly
2013 - Love Never Dies
2014 - Spice World
2016 - Glitter
2017 - Beauty and the Beast: The Enchanted Christmas
2019 - The Mighty Kong, Z-O-M-B-I-E-S, and Elf Bowling: The Movie
2022 - Music (first and only episode to go beyond 10 sins)
2023 - Charming
2024 - The Oogieloves in the Big Ballon Adventure
i was wondering when you’d show up 😭 i was actively rooting for 10+ sins as soon as i saw what was being reviewed lol
@@thehummingbellskits I think some other person started this!
So on the flipside what's the movie with the least amount of ains again?
Which one has the highest sins in total?
Music.@@hockeyhack3376
The funny thing is, Thomas The Tank Engine is one of the more under-sung gems, in the realm of solid children's entertainment that doesn't treat its audience like idiots - even and perhaps *especially* its American release as "Shining Time Station" (notorious film conclusion aside). Watch it to see one-role-wonder Brian O'Connor play a better ham AND a better character than everyone in Oogieloves combined, or Didi Conn, in what should have been an Oogieloves-ian "I haven't had real work since Grease" role, instead convince you that she was born to play maternal role models. It was a good lean into enthusiasm for its subject and quiet dignity.
If only Kenn Viselman had been paying closer attention.
Kenn Viselman has absolutely no idea what he's talking about. I mean, he's a marketing executive so it makes sense, but all those quotes from him really shows that he really misses the mark when it comes to children's entertainment. Also, to quote Cinematic Excrement at 2:12, "Let's not count that chicken before it hatches, okay?"
Cary. Cary, I’m so sorry we failed you.
I saw his name on the poster and immediately "Oh dear God WHY? HOW? WHY?" I don't think even a saving-grace-of-bad-movies presence like Tim Curry could make this show bearable.
Note: I was writing out this reply *before* I heard Diva's Enchanted Christmas name-drop at 8:42, so it even further proves my point.
Don't blame yourself. It's not our fault he and a whole bunch of others are in this.
...I've finally found a film I can show to my mother and go "see? there are worse films I could have brought home from the library than Barney's Great Adventure!"
10:07-10:13 Bobsheaux: Why? The balloon is right there! Just grab it and get out of here.
Yay! A fellow Bobsheaux fan! His review of this disaster was how I first heard of it. So, when I saw Diva would be reviewing this, I knew it was gonna be painful.
@@shaynabarnhard2274I think that’s how I first heard about this one too😅
I didn't realize the Oogielove movie was so... Recent. It feels like it belonged in the era of Banannas in Pajammas. But that show was comparatively wonderful with my nosgalgia glasses on. Maybe because it knew it had to be short.
Oooh boy, this makes the Care Bears look like high art. I love how they have a white woman doing Flamenco, which is actually from Spain, while they all travel around in a Mexican sombrero.
I feel like this would be so much better as a parody film, adult swim movie or a existential horror
If the Oogieloves and Pooh from Blood and honey were in the same room with me, i'll ask him to kill me so i can't hear their annoying voices anymore. Their giant eyes are terrifying and they rarely moves their mouth, makes thoses creatures scarier than a crazy killer with a Pooh mask 😂
That’s why Rifftrax exists.
Oogieloves is like those dreams you have when you have a nap in the middle of the day and you realize you don’t know if it was a real thing or not. In a bad way
I’ve had that except it was about some crappy 90s fighting game SF2 clone.
Cary Elwes' performance as Bobbly Wobbly looks like it was written for Jim Carrey in the 90s.
After so many years, Diva finally covers the Oogieloves. Now the world waits in bated breath for the answer to the ultimate question: will she cover Our Drawings?
The raccoons in the kitchen: probably a sort of referring to the mistaken belief raccoons wash their food (that is why in Dutch they are called 'wasberen', washbears). I think.
Honestly, Kenn Viselman should be punished by having everything he asks about explained in the most condescending way possible.
"Do any of us ever learn our lessons?" And with that, the stage for Diva's swan song review is set. Considering next month's review is (unless things have changed) going to be Diva's last day in court, it's fitting that her final two cases should be about the grand puba of bad children's movies and a movie that's all about lost souls in Hell facing judgement for their sins.
I admit I've never heard of the Devil's Carnival, but I am looking forward to it. I just hope that it isn't the last hurrah for Musical Hell.
@@janebyrne6463Sadly it might be - I know Diva's been dropping hints for the last few years about hanging up her cloven hooves, so it's likely to be the end; that said, I wonder if Diva might make a few cameos in future years, y'know, for auld lang syne...
@@theenigmaticst7572 WAAAAH!!! I was so hoping her last one would be at the end of the year and it would be Christmas Story Live.
I'm still sad about that
I hope she'll at least keep up with At The Source.
Fun fact: I recently learned that "create your own Circle of Hell for a 'modern day' sin" is actually a fairly common creative writing assignment for high school and college students reading the Divine Comedy. I've seen several examples, ranging from just as humorous as this show - a mini-circle for people who stick gum on the undersides of tables - to very serious - a new addition to the Circle of Violence for those who caused violence through negligence; the punishment is being fused into a cliff face (as they chose to take no action in life, now they can't do it even if they want to) and its most prominent inmate is the UN Secretary General during the 90s who refused to intervene in either Rwanda or the Balkans.
As for this film itself... so, this was made by someone who was actively TRYING to create this Family Guy gag? th-cam.com/video/TS1Upcpl_1U/w-d-xo.html
5:40 … the “Lawrence of My Labia” line from Sex and the City 2 would like a word.
I've worked tech crew on Sesame Street Live!, Disney Junior Live!, Paw Patrol Live!, Nickelodeon Jr Live!, Disney on Ice, and Blippi Live! so believe me when I say that I feel I am qualified enough to deem this the most vapid, monotonous, tuneless piece of media created for children ever. What a fever dream of a movie 😵💫
Worse than even Blippi?
“Kenn Viselman’s main claim to fame was bringing Thomas The Tank Engine to US TV.”
Wow, he is a massive liar!
The man who ACTUALLY brought Thomas to the US was a man known as Rick Siggelkow.
Rick partnered with Britt Allcroft (The woman responsible for bring Thomas to TV in the first place) and made Shining Time Station.
*Ruffie:* Will this thing never END?!
What we're all thinking!!!!!
I remember seeing an ad for this in one of my National Geographic kids magazines and being absolutely confused because I thought the oogieloves was a tv show getting their own movie and it was going to be like up because they had the characters holding a ton of balloons and floating away.
Oddly enough my first exposure to this movie is that it was a trailer in front of the Katy Perry 4D concert movie back in the day
I had the same thing. I remember seeing them on these magazines. I didn't go see it, obviously. I was probably too busy being with my family in Alaska when it came out. Speaking of which, I wonder what would happen if I just... you know, forced them to survive its wilderness? Sort of, just plop them in the Alaskan wild, with probably just a knife, hunting ammunition, a rifle, and a homestead in the harsh, almost Arctic weather? See if they'll either survive, or starve, or get killed by either wolves or bears.
This doesn't even look like a movie. This looks like of one of those live stage shows they make of children's cartoons. It has the actors in the costumes that don't move right, the interactive dance breaks. Except I know children who enjoy the live stage shows of their favorite cartoons.
From the director of Disney Channel’s “Camp Rock.”
No really.
Wait what?😅
Kenn had his hands in Thomas the Tank Engine, but, judging by this movie, he clearly did not take any advice in regards to children's entertainment. One of the things that made the early seasons of Thomas special is that the crew chose not to talk down to their audience. Even Reverend Wilbert Awdry (author of The Railway Series, which Thomas is based on) has once said "You've got to remember who you're writing for. You're not merely writing for children. You're writing for the unfortunate people who've got to read the stories over, and over, and over again."
Saw a review of this a few years ago, and spirits, I still can't believe this actually EXISTS! How in the world did they get all these celebrities to participate?! There is little more disgusting in the long run than a kids costume-puppet series that talks down to its audience. This is the distinction between shows like this and Freaking Barney ... and a Sid & Marty Krofft production. The Kroffts don't talk down to the kids and their shows are still entertaining for adults. And not just because we're still very convinced everyone was high while filming the Krofft shows.
Wait - that WOULD explain why THIS thing exists....
The structure isnt based on a 3 act structure, its based on video game progression.
"We need (x) amount of (y) items to save the day! Will you come on the adventure?"
And then its just a series of events where they collect each item until they have all the items.
Honestly, this story would be like, soooooo much better as an RPG xD
that makes too much sense
Fun fact: This movie did so bad that it was exclusively released for purchase at Walmart. Yeah, you read that correctly. Freaking Walmart was the only store where you could find this movie, and that’s if you could find it in the bargain bin pile. 😂😂😂
I was hanging out with our cousins at the time, and our aunt, for some reason, decided to put this on for the youngest one (the “target” audience). Yeah, he wasn’t even paying attention to the movie, while us older ones were just witnessing how painfully bad and upsetting the whole thing was, and wondering just WHY did anyone think this is theatrical material? More than anything we criticized just how ugly the costumes were, especially the Oogies themselves, how annoying the musical numbers were written, and just how stupid the movie was overall. It’s THE definition of a condescending movie, that thinks even kids are stupid.
This is some child's favorite movie and I feel so bad for their parents
The ' Why can't it all be nice?' thing makes me want to roll my eyes into the back of my head for many reasons. One is that having a serious ( more or less ) conflict ( doesn't have to necessarily be evil ) makes a story easier to engage with and more interesting. It also gives the protagonists actual motivations.
12:02 I am ashamed to say I honestly giggled at the absurdity of Toni Braxton's slow jam about having a cold; makes me long for Vanessa Williams' Queen of Trash song in Elmo in Grouchland ('cause at least *that* movie *knew* how to use its cameos right!).
And at least Queen of Trash helped Elmo in his journey and lessons
At least that song was okay and didn’t feel forced
And it seemed like all the cameos in Elmo were actually having fun, yes I’ll admit it
You know, Carey Elwes was also in the Disney dub of Ghibli's "Porco Rosso", and I'd probably say he pulls off a decent American accent (also along with Elwes, we have Michael Keaton, Kimberly Williams, Susan "Megara" Egan, and Disney regular Brad Garrett).
Oof, I was wondering if you'd ever cover this one. My condolences. This is the film that caused Sean from Cinematic Excrement to fall into a coma.
The problem with a movie like this is that the target age demographic is so young (toddlers) that the brand would need to be a phenomenon on its own before it could be successful in the box office. The toddlers this would appeal to are too young to just see a trailer and beg their parents to see it and remember that they asked to see this two minutes after asking. Toddlers have to be obsessed with a thing to be that consistent/make parents feel it's worth it, otherwise parents, who won't want to sit through this anyway, won't feel any obligation to take them to the theater. However, I think Kenn truly believed that his film would appeal to kids of all ages not at all understanding the differences in development, or that Pixar's target demographic isn't toddlers.
Way to go, Oogioves! You broke Diva! First Music, now you!
I suspect by the midpoint in your script, your spellchecker was having a seizure. "Schloopy" "Goobielove", etc... I'm going into sugar shock just typing that.
before it came out i remember seeing an advertisement for this movie in a magazine at a doctors office. when i first saw the advert i thought the movie was gonna either be a perversion/parody of a kids film or be “deceptively childlike” (like strays, death to smoochy, ted, sausage party, etc). i guess i was baffled by a film for toddlers and toddlers alone coming to theaters, that wasn’t already part of a huge franchise like barney or paw patrol or w/e
Kenn does know that when people are shouting at a movie, that's usually NOT a good thing?
Unless it’s a RiffTrax or MST3K or Rocky Horror Picture, then that’s fine
Although if it’s an aggressively bad movie that people paid good movie for, yeah I can understand the frustration
Toni Braxton was Belle on Broadway, Damnit! Justice 4 Toni!
The fact that this movie was pitched as a Teletubbies movie is sad. How would you even realistically adapt Teletubbies into a movie?!
It was doomed to fail from the start
There’s no possible way for TELETUBBIES to work as a movie 😅 (i say this as someone who watched the show as a kid)
@@gracekim1998 Also this Kenn guy was responsible for bringing Thomas to US audiences? I thought that was Rick Sigglecow and Britt Alcroft.
@@supermariof0521oh gosh 😅
@@supermariof0521While Rick Sigglekow and Britt Allcroft were the ones who made Shining Time Station, it was Kenn who suggested bringing Thomas to the US. I think I read somewhere that he was also the one who suggested bring George Carlin on the show after Ringo Starr left.
19:18 funny you mention that when in ABC's broadcasting of "Peter Pan live" they wanted people to post #SaveTinkerbell all over social media in order to save Tink..
She mentioned that in her review.
This makes Blue’s Clues, The Wiggles, Barney, Teletubbies, Dora, Peppa Pig, Caillou, and Cocomelon look butch.
Not to mention that at least Blue's Clues has the approval of older viewers too. It's pretty much a classic among preschool shows (Can't say the same about Cailliou and Peppa Pig though)
@@mintstarmariSay what you want about Peppa Pig, but we can all agree that Caillou is terrible.
@@mintstarmari Seriously, what other preschool show covered tertiary colors?
"Butch" is not how I expected that sentence to end.
@@timothymclean I think it's a reworked Nostalgia Critic quote.
Diva, ya did it again!! I swear, you make my month!!
I never ever thought you would ever take this on! Don't know how you got through it period!
Devil's Carnival? Never heard of it. Should be really good.
This movie has confounded me since its inception. There is NO reason this movie could have been anything more than a failure. Preschool franchise theatrical movies are never successful, and not even Follow that Bird or Elmo in Grouchland, two heavy hitters from a MAJOR and influential preschool series. Barney's movie pretty much killed his franchise (thank goodness for that). And again, those are BIG names in the industry. Oogieloves looks like it's 15+ years out of date, looking like a public access Barney knockoff from the 90's with cheap mascot suits that couldn't even pass for a mid-level budget series. And that's even if they had a name presence outside the movie. There is a certain level of hubris to give them the movie introduction when this was barely low quality DTV series at best. The kind of video you'd only see at a close out store already in the clearance bin with like 5 layers of discount sticker on it. There was NO way this was going to be a name brand thing if they couldn't go the more reasonable TV series route first. I REALLY want it to be the case that they did try to sell it as a TV series, but no one wanted an ancient relic looking series when they have nice, clean, futuristic CGI models...also talking down to kids like they're complete idiots.
So basically, already it had several things going against it. No name recognition, out of touch, and pandering to an audience more suited to home video. Already a bad idea? Let's pile on more. Encouraging 3 year olds to be hyperactive and express bad behavior in a movie theater (something they basically do already)? Check. I mean, they gave out WANDS! Light up wands to see the movie. It's bad enough the movie was annoying as it was, nay, the CHARACTERS were annoying as it was. Now we have a bunch of bratty little toddlers running up and down the aisles with big flashing plastic straws, swinging them around, while a bunch of obnoxiously precious named mutant Cabbage Patch Dolls sing off key with B and C listers doing their best impersonations of bad amusement park stage performers. What part of that was appealing to ANYBODY? It never felt like it was a "come and plan your family a fun day of entertainment" like even mid level kid's movies do. It was a "hey kids! Scream and cry and throw a temper tantrum until you wear your parents down and drag them miserably," situation. And even then, no takers. At BEST, this would have been a DVD next to the checkout register at a very small regional grocery store chain that completely out of touch Grandma would get for a 2 year old's birthday. Right next to the "Enchanting Tales" Disney movie cash ins.
Not to mention the folks working at the theaters.
Hey man don't insult Follow That Bird. It was actually good.
Edit: Also the Paw Patrol movies were successful.
@@debbieganger Dude. FTB is adjacent to the Muppet Movie Holy Trilogy of The Muppet Movie, Great Muppet Caper, and Muppets take Manhattan in Muppet Fandom circles. Like the unofficial fourth movie. An undeniable, rightfully beloved classic and proof you can do a preschool movie RIGHT. But initial box office was depressingly low for such a well regarded film, even though it did its business on home video, and years later. Elmo in Grouchland couldn't even ride the Tickle Me fame to a decent Box Office. And like I said, Sesame Street is a world renown brand, and even it couldn't get little kids and their parents in the seats.
So basically a no-name series that only had an obscure DTV presence (before the buy out and rename) , and then like one bad PSA )post buyout) wouldn't have stood a chance. It was hubris and stupidity not to make this a TV series first. Plus, I feel bad for Christopher Lloyd having to be in this. Dude was freakin' Doc Brown.
I have seen the face of madness, and it is green, yellow, and purple...
Also, it honestly was sobering to hear Diva sound so defeated at the end. When you're so used to her sentences, you can tell how much of a hole there is when she doesn't even bother and just cuts off.
10:54 Don't know if it's possible, since this movie was made in the USA, but in many countries, including my own, raccoons are called "washing bears", so it might be another pun?
Probably.
In german, a raccoon is a Waschbär, so I guess it is kinda fitting?
I would have even found it cute if this was in *any* other movie.
He got the audience participation idea... from a Madea movie... I ... I ... no words... i think i can feel my brain melting out of my ears
Not sure what's worse for Cary Elwes being locked in bathroom playing a game for Jigsaw or being in this movie
I imagine this movie was worse. At least Jigsaw gives you a chance to escape with your dignity intact, even if you’re horribly maimed.
One was a horrific experience which scarred those unfortunate enough to be subjected to it in both body and mind, that you wouldn't wish upon your most reviled enemy. The other was 'Saw'.
At least Saw is a memorable movie and Jigsaw did give them a choice on escaping
14:31 Holy shit, I just thought that was a joke from the Cinema Snob review, I didn't realize it was ACTUALLY WHAT HAPPENED
I remember watching the cinema snob's review of this movie and when the Hoover guy laments how these were the last magical balloons in Lovelyville, he had the best response. "That sounds like whole lot of not my f*cking problem!"
But yeah, I wonder why go through all that effort for a pillow who seems to be comatose most of the movie. You can give him a rubber band as a gift and it would probably have the same affect.
I believe they pitied him more than anything
I have GOT to watch that one again!!
I actually picked this up at a Redbox back in the day. I wasn’t high…but it felt like I was.
Was this movie made just to validate the existence of Don't Hug Me I'm Scared?
Did everyone forget about Lamb Chop? It was like the female version of Mr. Rodgers with chill storytime.
Her appearance on The Nanny is actually quite hilarious because Lambchop hits on Maxwell and she is *really* horny. There’s also a video on TH-cam where Sherri and Lambchop are doing a stand up routine and the puppet is completely drunk.
And it had the song that doesn't end!
Oh I remember that!
Pretty cute and I think I had a Lamb Chop puppet as well
When the Tweenies have more expressive faces, you know you’ve messed up big time.
I'd watch the Tweenies any day over these things. Then again, i grew up with them so childhood bias? idk
The Ooogielove characters look like the disturbing, gone-wrong love children of the Doodlebops and the Sid the Science Kid friend group, who were then later raised by the Cabbage Patch Kids for some odd unknown reason. 😬
I seem to recall Care Bears doing interactive movies, so even kid's movies did this audience participant thing.
I remember the Nostalgia Critic reviewing the second Care Bears movie and that had audience participation in the climax.
I can still hear him shouting “I believe in Santa Christ!”
To be fair, it happened only once or twice in the Care Bears movies.
It's almost physically painful to see Cary Elwes in this. Like you just want to give him a hug and tell him things will be OK
"And if you've ever wanted to see a bunch of overgrown 4 year olds do sensual flamenco dancing..." I can assure both you and the FBI agents watching that I most certainly do not.
Aside from Elmo in Grouchland, another movie for preschoolers that is basically a better version of Oogieloves is "Miffy The Movie" [sic], based on the children's book character of Miffy the bunny. It may have similar problems like the lack of an actual story (as it just revolves on Miffy and her friends going on a treasure hunt through the zoo) and talking down to its audience at some points. However, its stop motion animation is basic yet visually charming, and the characters have actual arcs on which they face their fears.
I'm shocked you didn't look into this film much sooner in your career. My condolences for you having to watch this trainwreck of a film.
This movie was long overdue for it's trial here in the Infernal court! It was one of those movies that utmost certainly deserves the level of vitirolic scrutiny it faced from various reviewers in the past. Sure, I get it; getting worked up at a movie geared towards babies/really young children is the epitome of low-hanging fruit, but at the same time, I and many other people still stand by the belief that just because something is geared towards children; doesn't give it an immediate free pass from criticism. And this movie should serve as a go-to example of why you shouldn't just feed children whatever 2-cent bargain bin schlock to keep them occupied.
Goddamn this movie was so vapid it gave Diva an existential crisis at the end XD
The *only* reason I believe that there was no blackmail involved in the casting of this is that there is no possible way Toni Braxton or Cloris Leachman have ever done anything bad enough that it getting out would be worse than being in this movie.
OK saying this was originally intended to be a teletubbies movie makes some sense. The window instead of the Sun Baby/the tubbies getting visions on their stomachs, J Edgar instead of The Noo-Noo etc.
So the Sun Baby grew up to become a f*cking window? (And yes, the baby they used for the Teletubbies sun was in fact a girl.)