Drinker's Chasers - Elon Musk Destroys BBC Journalist
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- I don't normally cover stuff like this, but it made us laugh so we decided to take a look at Elon's recent interview with a BBC journalist. The guy thought he had a "gotcha" moment. What he really had was a train wreck.
After "Fake it till you make it", we now live in "Invent it till it's true". What an amazing time to be alive.
That was a case of "Fake it 'til you're fake **it."
for scammers and lazy journalists yes but the walls a closing in and i love it.
@@c0d3warrior Excellent! 😀
That's one way of looking at it.
Yet again the demand for racism exceeds it supply.
I do love that his entire narrative falls apart with just an ounce of push back.
The media are an authority!
Aren't you the media?
Huh?
Time to push back even harder. Hold the line, these clowns are done and they know it.
@@Jadty the BBC know they are done they are 300m In debt now it's over for them they just aren't admitting it yet. They seem to think they will get a dig out by government😂 that truly would cause massive riots, everyone I know despises the BBC and wants them gone
Every single one of these narratives would crumble to dust if people just pushed back a little. Whether it's interviewees or interviewers ... because it goes both ways. I'm sure you CAN find ample evidence of more hate speech on Twitter now if you bothered to do an analysis, but then you'd also have to look at the reasons. Is it because the company is turning over a new leaf and in the middle of restructuring? Is it because a lot of trolls have seen this as the perfect opportunity to spew their hatred? Are those actually troll accounts that try to besmirch the name of Elon Musk?
And this goes doubly for any politician... they get away with being the absolute morons they are, because nobody actually challenges them anymore. They're bloody stupid!
Musk is certainly not a saint, a good interviewer could easily grill him on multiple things, but that'd require actual research and brains.
all the narratives do.. which is why they resort to "RRREEEEEEEE" and yelling.
The BBC journalist responded in exactly the same way my 5 year old daughter does when I catch her in a lie. She keeps going, digging herself deeper and deeper until she tries to deflect and dismiss it...
Except it's not a lie. Hate speech has bloomed on Twitter since El Musko fired the content moderation team. Just because you cannot name a specific person who has been let back on the site doesn't mean it isn't true.
@@davcrav it was riddled with hate before Elon bought it. You maybe just don't count it when it's targeted at people you disagree with
Infantilized adults. Exactly the same as children. My feelings! My feelings! Why can't I have everything!?
Yes but no.
You don't see or hear the people talking in his ear.
ie the executive producer for the show and their staff.
But has she learned the "this isn't going anywhere, let's talk about something else" trick yet?
This "reporter" being so unprepared just shows how common it is to spout out complete lies and generalizations without being called on them by the rest of the media. He didn't even consider that pushback was a possibility.
Fortunately for Elon, he has the power and influence to be heard. But for 99% of other humans, once they're censored for no reasons, that's it; they're invisible. You can't speak out against anything unless you have the power and influence to be heard despite the censorship, trolls, mass-flagging, etc.
Believe me, I should know. 🙄
He was in good company with Elon. The guy lies constantly and his fan girls can’t get enough.
@@fluphybunny930 !!
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They’re used to owning the entire medium, I.e. a TV channel or network, where they can edit this down and create any narrative they want. When they get on a long-form show where they can’t edit it (like Joe Rogan or Twitter Spaces), they completely fall apart.
@@fluphybunny930 You’re mad Elon caught Twitter colluding with US government officials to censor political speech and meddle in election, aren’t you. Bless your heart.
Your average journalist
Don't call them journalists, they're activists
@Paulo Alex no professional jackass
In quotes
Journalists don't exist anymore. These are leftist activists
"journalist" hahahahaha
Totally get what RazorFist was saying about "journalism school." I had to drop a class quickly when it became obvious the professor was trashing papers the papers of students who she perceived didn't fit her political bias. One of my friends who went on to earn a PhD had to drop the same course for very similar reasons. This was clear back in the 90's.
I only got through my degree because I chose to focus on coverage of Islamic extremism, and contrasted to coverage of Palestinian militants, Tamil tigers, Darfur etc. Lefty professors were excited by my work, which showed that lefty outlets were obviously treating these differently based on political expediency.
It was fun. Quote plenty of Chomsky and point at "Yeah, how comes you ignored the Darfur genocide but did three months of headlines about one dead Palestinian? Oh right, because the guy who shot him wears a little hat"
Early 2000s I had a class called "rhetoric and reason". I had the same issue, prof would slash 20 points off a 20 page paper with one typo if she didn't like the position.
She was pretty easy to figure out, I wrote a paper about gender pay discrepancy at the university for professors, for the final. I injected quite a few logical fallacies and several spelling mistakes. She held my paper and gave it to me after class, I got an a and she was gushing about how I'd pointed out systemic issues she didn't even knew existed (they didnt, I made it up).
I wish I was making this story up. The class started with around 30 students, there were 5 of us by the end of the semester, everyone else dropped out.
@@Typexviiib Tenure is a fucking terrible idea.
@@BWMagusno. Giving leftists jobs with power is.
@@Typexviiib Wow. That's really something else.
He’s so used to interviewees running scared of “hate speech” & various isms that he didn’t even consider that he had to provide evidence.
The first thing he asked was idiotic. Hate Speech isn't real, so everything this moron thinks is nonsense.
This is what blows my mind and puts me off my tea! Journalists do not even consider having proof to back what they are reporting on…. 😮
Which is ridiculous. He's interviewing Elon effing Musk. The owner and CEO of twitter, who probably had his share of discussions and argument inside and outside of the company. I mean, think of Musk what you will, but you should at least assume that by now he's pretty experienced in discussing these topics. Expecting him to falter at the first poignant question is just dumb, journalist or not.
Seems likely. And combined with the arrogance of being employed by the BBC. And the hubris of being a fake journalist. And the insulation of like minded social circles. His idea of confrontation may be limited to asking for a manager....
Which... That's what this interview is.
"Can I speak with the manager of twitter? Yeah, uh, I saw this racist thing in your business and it's not ok...."
REMEMBER, the LEFT do not need Facts, Statistics, Evidence, or Science, they only require HOW THEY FEEL. It's their Truth.
"And i say sir you dont know what you are talking about"
Mocking him to his face, well done Elon
The best thing is that nobody will ever feel sorry for the media.
Even the ones trying to defend him do so to spit Musk, not because the urinalist was good in any way.
Umm... Critical is part of the media.
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Yeah, literally making the point why twitter is now the best way to get news, and find independent sources. The truth will always be revealed
Valuable Lesson: When dealing with dishonest/bad faith questions -
1. Make them define their terms.
2. Ask questions to clarify their false (or even ill-prepared) premises.
The BBC reporter, as well as many blue haired Twitter activists were admitted to hospital for overdosing on copium after this interview. I wish them well....
Lol😂 I don't.
Nothing really is going to happen. Elon is hatred by news media, so nobody actually important is going to widespread it. Elon has to tell his engineers to boost his own tweets on Twitter because he's becoming less relevant, so less people who actually matter are also going to see it on Twitter because that place is losing more and more users. Then the people who already like him are already in their little bubble so it's nothing but a pat on the back, but they are irrelevant because they'll follow him regardless and are shrinking in number.
People who liked Elon already will still like him, people who hated him will still hate him, zero has changed.
So honestly in the end probably 2 years from now he'll simply be remembered in this moment for being an asshole, because we will have moved on to another figure. Elon loses long term, welcome to politics.
And nothing of worth was lost...
Tim Dillon says; we don't go low, we wish them well
One thumbs up = one prayer
Imagine spending your whole career as a journalist and you get the interview of your life, and this is how you choose to play it.
But the reporter never got a chance to attack Elon with his list of questions that were really thinly disguised false accusations filled with strawmen.
If you watch the whole interview, at the end Elon is cackling like the Joker and the reporter is desperately trying not to answer whether he likes the BBC as an organisation.
@@lostalone9320 not "the BBC," but "BBC" as an organization. The "the" is important here.
@@reptowolfe8322extremely incorrect.
@@reptowolfe8322 Get a life.
@@fantasticmrmonkdo you like BBC?
Love how he tries to go for a covid question then realizes he’d get absolutely destroyed so he side steps 😂
It was so NAKED how farcical this “media is an authority” thing has become. Elon was so calm and used silence to his advantage, after his very basic retorts and themes
The Joe Rogan interview with the NYT editor a few years ago is the same. She kept calling people "toadies" and Joe asked her what the word was, what it meant. She was unable to define the word at all. It was incredible. Editor of the NYT did not know what words used in headlines meant.
@@phonepunk7888 they can't define what "women" is, ofc they can't define toadies.
@@phonepunk7888 Barrie Weiss and she deserves every harsh critique she gets. Horrible person.
Ah yes, one of the "trusted sources" I keep hearing about
Ikr😂 bbc have the worst reputation of all. They are vile
Imagine doing an interview to embarass Musk only for Elon to do Uno reverse card and embarass you
really inept journalism.
Well deserved - I think we are all beyond fed up of todays "journalists" pandering to woke idealogy and completely ignoring any integrity. Just look at how Isabel Oakeshotts exposure of what the UK Government were talking about & saying on whatsapp was "reported". Most of them completely ignored every single detail of what was being said in order to tarnish her name/reputation instead for whistleblowing. We need a serious revival of REAL investigative journalism right now in the World, the corruption/fraud/pedo rings has gotten completely out of control.
Elon: "You have activated my trap card!!!!!"
The most uno reverse card that ever reversed.
Imagine starting a conversation with imagine 😊
I was a journalist in a past life as well and the reason the dregs of humanity currently do the gig is because anyone with a shred of integrity quit or was driven off
Are you serious? Has the profession become dogmatic?
@@coolcat23 I believe it has, in most cases yes, at least for mainstream media.
@@bloodnchocolate Scary
@@coolcat23 Journalism was one of the first to become dogmatic. I've read stories of reporters from 25-30 years ago saying the same thing. One guy shared that a co-worker of his was sent to cover riots in the Virgin Islands...but all of his footage and photos were trashed because there were too many black people doing the rioting. The Virgin Islands are like 99% black, but he was somehow supposed to find like 5 white people joining in and exclusively use photos of them, or something. Just nuts.
It’s absolutely hilarious that a guy who wanted an interview wasn’t prepared to give an example for literally his first point in the interview.
Like, what the hell was he expecting? I’m imagining a chef saying he has an excellent new dish for the menu, someone asks cool, what is it? And the chef goes uhhhhh, well ya know, I don’t have that on hand.
think that guy went to university for years to become an "expert" journalist.
Bullies are used to being stood up to
Imagine having the chance to interview Elon Musk, a guy who’s building driverless cars and sending people to Mars, and you start asking him about random people sending mean tweets
This shows the bubble they live in
it's not even hard to find someone being in some way offensive or hostile or whatever on twitter either, it's the internet after all
That guy really thought he was somehow going to outsmart Elon Musk. Good freaking luck dude.
Simon Jordan eats these activist types the best. He just decimated one the other day and she nearly cried on air. Was about womans football, if you call that football.
@@bigduphusaj162 How can I find it?
Imagine trying for a gotcha without actually having any evidence
I bet chatgpt could have supplied some if he had asked 😂😂😂
@@tuppybrill4915 omg dont give them ideas
Since when did a lack of evidence matter to liberals?
The political left in a nutshell.
@@cybernet343 ikr, the left are basically a stereotype for everything to do with dishonesty these days. I know traditionally left leaning people who now want nothing to do with the modern left they themselves admit that the modern leftist is a cult member. As a general rule, when the nuterals hate you too its because you're the Cooont
The reporter obviously haven't heard of this classic:
"My source is that i made it the fuck up"
This is why they resort to screaming and cancelling. Simple questions destroy their narratives.
Uh.....all this journalist had to do was about 15 minutes of calling up the extensive coverage of the rise in extremist rhetoric on Twitter after Musk collapsed the basic operational systems at Twitter. The coverage by independent agencies at that time.
Id be furious too if my entire worldview could be dismantled by a simple request of "elaborate please" LOL
Musk is cancelling himself - the Twitter acquisition displayed his underhanded market manipulation tactics for all to see.
Amusingly the practice fell back on him and now he's considerably out of Tesla shares sold to pay for it, not to mention the value of his remaing shares that have plummeted since he started the Twitter debacle a year ago.
It's like they reverted to animalistic thinking instead of human.
AND they edited the embarrassing part out, pathetic.
We are basically forced to pay the tv licence in the UK for the BBC and there is no choice to watch television without having a licence even though I never watch the BBC
😂 forced? Not in Scotland we ain't, nobody I know pays anything to the BBC since Savile mate
Cancel it. Then stick to streaming and on-demand viewing.
@OceanLoader You can cancel your licence and may be eligible for a refund if, before your licence expires, you won't be: watching TV on any channel via any TV service (e.g. Sky, Virgin, BT, Freeview, Freesat) watching live on streaming services (e.g. ITVX, All 4, TH-cam, Amazon Prime Video, Now, Sky Go), or. using BBC iPlayer*. (From Google)
I had a mostly good experience with J-school. In spite of whatever their biasee may have been, the professors in the actual journalism college actually encouraged open dialog. I often found myself breaching necessary subjects others wouldn't or feared to, but when everybody opened up, none of my professors discouraged that conversation and didn't silence anybody. I got to know the ethics orofessor a little bit who was also the president of the journalism college within my university at the time. I took media ethics during the 2016 election and would often be one of the only ones in the class to point out the massive and repeated media ethics violations in corporate press coverage. Some others did, but it was mostly myself who initiated that conversation, and literally nobody else seemed to know about the Wikileaks contents that came out at the time. I told the ethics professor that I felt like I was the crazy one noticing things nobody else did. He told me that I had good instincts and would make a great investigative reporter, but he looked at me with a sad look in his eye and said that "Current political realities do not allow for the open coverage of certain uncomfortable truths." Probably paraphrasing, but that's dang close to what he said. Witnessing the onslaught of lies in the 2016 election cycle, Wikileaks revelations, hearing Stefan Molyneux's The Truth About McCarthyism presentation, and this reluctant confession from my media ethics professor/college president pretty much killed whatever rose-tinted aspirations I had about speaking truth to power in mainstream corporate press. If I ever do media coverage at all, it could only be independently or with a smaller organization I can reasonably trust who explicitly share my values.
Why would I believe the guy who lied so much about Fable about the truth of anything let alone McCarthyism
@@mosquitopyjamas9048 Different guy.
Using the Socratian Method us exactly how you deal with baseless urinalists and "activists"
Socratic maybe?
This. Socratic Method also works extremely well against conservatives and MAGA folk.
Edit: holy cow this triggered a lot of people. Case in point.
It generally works well against anyone who follow a trend or ideology without actual understanding of it.
@@mivapusa common sense, basic logic, critical thinking = hate speech 🤣
@@xuvial1391 piss off yank, leave your political opinions & insular cretinous bs in your mindless head!
I hate people who think that if they keep yammering through and over other people, they'll magically be right. Like a 17 year old girl getting a speeding ticket.
Also, while there are exceptions to everyone, never forget that professors, just like police and psychiatrists, are people... And people are sometimes full of s**t.
One of the main reasons the interview went this way is how it was presented. Rather than tape it and then editing layer before airing it. Elon wanted the interview livestreamed on Twitter. This way there is no "creative" editing on the BBC's part to save the interviewer and to make Elon look bad. Elon knew exactly what he was doing.
…and when the Beeb aired (at least portions) of said interview they conveniently expunged all the bits that made them look bad! They never change and thankfully Musk, to his credit, is wise to their narrative-skewing mischief.
Didnt stop them editing the footage for the bbc site though. There will be people who womt see that bad parts because the bbc cut them out.
@@ge2719 nope the full interview is available on the BBC.
@@davoman5781 yeah but the one presented first and the one they are offering up is the edited one. You've already been told this in another thread and several people pointed out to you how quickly they hid the full length one, one guy is even giving you live updates on how the full one is getting ushered away each hour. Why are you continuing to make out the BBC are honest? Also, can you explain why the one presented to the public now is edited in a way that prevents the BBC looking bad? Why would they edit out the legit questions Elon had about them and edit out the bits Elon took the activist apart?
What fascinates me is that you are sticking up for a firm who are one of the worst on earth at hiding the truth? You a Savile fan?
Exactly. These people can’t survive in a long-form conversational format. Can’t survive unless the completely control the content and the medium. That’s why the next day, the WaPo had the headline “Musk Bristles at Questions on Hate Speech.” Because they knew their readers didn’t and wouldn’t listen to the interview, and would only read that chicken shit headline.
Hate speech is something invented by people who think words and silence are both violence. There's a reason the phrase "sticks and stones may break my bones, but words can never hurt me" exists. Being offended or hurt by words isn't something someone else does to you, it's something you do when presented with the words or actions of another person. It's a choice. We all have free will to react however we want, and these people choose to be offended.
I'll grant that words CAN hurt...if they come from someone you trust and love. But all these babies on Twitter need to grow up, getting mad at strangers having opinions. Or even calling them names. God I wish I had screenshots of my actual interactions on the internet 20 years ago.
When a journo says 'Honestly' a lot, you know he's floundering...
Yeah, this was something to behold. Elon took him apart casually as eating a ham sandwich, and all he did was ask him to clarify, lol. I don't have any empathy for this guy possibly losing his job over this, bc I wouldn't have gone into an interview with the possibly smartest sometimes most confrontational man on the planet without having my ducks in a row.
That BBC journo is a walking endorsement for twitter. He said that there's slightly hateful content.
Which is such an ambigious labeling. To me he's saying that there's content that can be interpreted as hateful. So it varies from person to person.
But worse. He says he doesn't engage with the For You tab because it has hateful content. Okay so then he uses twitter like it was meant to be used. Tailor to his own tastes. He doesn't engage with the part of it that offends him
“Slightly hateful” = “mostly not hateful” - whatever “hateful” means… “indelicate,” per Razorfist, 🧐
“Hate speech” is a tool for religious fundamentalists of whatever faith to shut up anyone who doesn’t espouse the same creed.
Anything the left consider hateful is usually the truth being told directly to their faces
I also use the latest tab and sometimes people I follow retweet political cringe but that’s it
It is great to hear the riveting points critical doggo had.
Indeed !
That second leg twitch was particularly incisive + cutting... 😉
Thumbs up for The Critical Doggo finally being part of the stream!
*insert the "always has been" meme with the astronauts*
@@cybernet343 No. they weren’t part for most of the later videos because he changed his camera angle.
It's such a White Pill to see how many Brits are turning their backs on corporate journalism - and the best part is that like this one, the journalists themselves don't know how much people have stopped buying their shit. This is a genuine victory, this is a good day.
Unfortunately, the ruling class still form their views based on media narratives, and they dismiss any dissent as essentially terrorism
It never seems to occur to this guy that interviewing people is part of Elon's job.
Clearly it never occurred to this fool that THINKING is Elon Musk’s greatest strength.
And exposing excuses.
Its just easy mode taking apart leftists in general. They haven't thought about what they stand for and they open their mouth before thinking. Very easy to roast people that are this basic.
I'm not the biggest fan of Musk, but I have to admit the guy knows what to say and how to say it. There are few people in history who have been able to play the media game as well as him.
@carruthers100can you give one example?
Stand up to bullies and this is what happens
_"Honestly, I honestly uh.. honestly..."_
Absolute integrity.
Moment of the year, so far
Viva Frei has a great compilation of edits from this video of the journo saying "I'm not saying anything" followed by "I'm saying there is hate speech". Dude can't even keep his story straight over a 2 min interview.
@@phonepunk7888
It was really funny listening to him contradict himself left and right. "Im not there, so I dont know" immediately followed by "I was there! I know!" and then back to "Im not there!" lol
Sadly, those are the kinds of people who are given the keys to drive everyone crazy. They're permitted to simply invent whatever they want, and attempt to bend the world's narrative around it.
From what I remember of PSY of communication, that tends to be an admission of deceit. “Honestly” in uncharacteristic repetition translates to: I just lied, you caught me, but from this point forward I will endeavor to be truthful.
Elon makes me happy. 😀 This is so great.
Razorfist had a similar experience to me, where I was trying to complete a history term paper and the professor kept returning it to me because I wasn't presenting his version of history. Everything in college has to slant left these days, not report on the truth.
So what's the truth?
I had a college history professor that tried to blame America for the actions of Christopher Columbus, so I said he wasn’t American nor were the royals that sent him to explore, and America didn’t exist then, then another student said “yeah but we have Donald trump” and the teacher gave the “she’s right you know” look, it was ridiculous
@@burtreynolds8030 Holy. Fucking. Shit. And I thought the spanish education system was fucked
@@poppers7317 you want them to break down the entire story for you? 😅
@@bugsy742 the example would've been sufficient.
"personally I've been noticing it more in my feed."
"Okay can you give me an example."
"Well to be honest I haven't used it in like the weeks."
He never expected to be challenged and just shows the arrogance of journalists at these big news channels.
Well... maybe ONE journalist. How does it prove all are?
@@greggibson33 You are kidding... right?!
@@sandman_says_runrunner4701 You are kidding... right?
@@greggibson33 No, he isn't.
@@TheFourthWinchester That's the funny part.
One of the best ways to destroy someone’s argument, especially if it’s biased and baseless, is to ask them questions. If they have a bad argument, then they will eventually defeat themselves. And it’s always better that they defeat themselves with their own words then you do, since there will be others who want to believe what the person is arguing, because they themselves are biased.
Elon demonstrates this perfectly. He barely gives any counter argument. But with every question he asks the interviewer’s argument gets worse. A more intelligent and well spoken interviewer would have been able to hold a better argument. But this interviewer did not come prepared to answer questions or defend their argument/ narrative. He came prepared to put Elon on the defensive. It’s a classic case in modern mainstream media. See how easily they are defeated when questioned, instead of playing into their hand and letting them force you to defend yourself.
The BBC online news site forgot to post this part of their gotcha moment. Reminiscent of Tommy Robinson and his 'uno reverse' on john Sweeney that got him sacked, Panodrama.
I think you missed the point, this "reporter" had a list of accusations disguised as questions that he was planning on attacking Elon with, but Elon spotted it in coming & slammed on the breaks & flipped the attack on the reporter putting him in his place.
wtf am i reading??
@Garada K7 Considering the air quotes around the word reporter: you are reading sarcasm. Good day (not sarcasm.)
Actually, the hidden part of Musk’s win was that he live streamed it on Twitter. The BBC couldn’t edit to suit their narrative,
Yes, of course that was it, and I believe he was checking for instructions on his cellphone. Of course, the people behind him are as idiotic as he is, so they couldn't help him.
slammed on the "brakes"
Would love to see CD on Carl Benjamins
Lotus Eaters one day
Watched it a dozen times hilarious..
This reminds me of that meme where someone is complaining about a problem, is offered a solution, and declines it because they'd rather complain about a problem than solve it.
Excellent job by Musk. Journalists used to be held to precise standards. Everything they said had to be backed up, not just “people are talking,” “I’m just relaying what others are saying.”
That’s what’s good enough for far leftist. The whole point of leftist ideology isn’t that you believe in what’s being said, or even remotely agree with it: all that matters is that you SHUT the fuck up, say EXACTLY what you are told to say and do EXACTLY as you are told. It doesn’t matter what your true beliefs are, just as long as you keep them to yourself and fall into ridged lock-step with everyone else when ordered to. There’s no need to gather evidence or proof of claims, because the simple act of asking for evidence in those circles is tantamount to questioning the dogma, which is of course met with accusations of being a hereti- I mean bigot.
Well, actually the biggest difference from past journalists, is that now we get the whole clip and they can't just present their edited version of events. Most of them have always been talentless opinionated scum, that's what this profession has always attracted.
"Journalists used to be held to precise standards"
Blame Fox News.
The moment they started selling entertainment (in their own court mandated words) as news on air was the moment that news started devolving into a roiling cluster fµck of cheap hits, comebacks and outright manufactured stories to boost ad viewership.
The truly sad thing is that Critical has sunk so low that this is the best and most interesting thing he can report on?
Bruuh don't go chasing Russell Brand's coat tails down that Yellow Drug Road.
Are you sure?
Nice one Drinker! This type of journalism is part of the same problem you talk about in your film and TV reviews all the time, it doesn't matter about facts, evidence or viewing figures, if "The Message" isn't being pushed then it should be attacked and vilified.
BBC's lobster moment.
The most funny part came later, when Elon read questions that got tweeted and he asked the "journalist" (using that term loosely here): "Do you like BBC?" and Elon repeated it and couldn not stop laughing. And the "journalist" was squirming. Elon had lost all respect of that person and had a real fun time with it.
The BBC uploaded the interview....but strangely enough, they edited out the bits where Musk stomps on that weedy cひnt, scrapes him off the floor and uses him to mop up the blood. Why on earth would they do such a thing? Puzzling!!
The guy wrote a column about the interview for the BBC website. It doesn't resemble what happened at all. It merely recycles the usual MSM gripes about how terrible it is that someone like Musk took away their precious Leftoid thought silo.
"FATALITY!"
lol actually it was streamed live on twitch and the bbc at Elon's request
@@davoman5781 So the BBC left the unedited livestream up in a prominent place?
@@DeadlyPlatypus it's not like they could make a move against twitch
I like how Razor just pops in out of nowhere lol
This interview has gotten over 5 million views. People are waking up and that is a good thing
-I saw Bad stuff
-like what
-i can't tell u cause i don't use it
-then how do You know
-cause i saw it last week
-then give me an example of what u saw last week
-cant, don't use it
I think i know whats wrong he got Alzheimers lmao
"This isn't going anywhere"
Translation: this isn't going the way I wanted.
The journalist trapped himself. He said the hate speech / hateful speech was when someone was slightly racist or sexist. After that he was incapable of giving an example without pissing someone off.
Also Drinker, you just learned that one of your colleagues used to be a journalist. The shame! Really need better quality control and background checking 😊
I believe that by now he is probably redeemed. Besides journalism can be a respected profession even thou that is exceedingly rare nowadays.
Edit: The above is about The Drinkers buddy.
@@michaelpettersson4919 all journalists are scum and they can only be trusted as long as they are on our side and only as an 'ally'. these scum's power and rights must be destroyed on the day of the rope.
This person the reporter was going to piss off wouldn't have cared, being made out of straw.
I mean, hate speech is a thing. But being slightly sexist isn't even close to hate.
@@OceanLoader what is 'hate speech"? words someone say or write that hurt your feelings? Children thinking they're adults, your feelings only matter to you, grow a set of balls.
A BBC "journalist" was handed a HIGH PROFILE interview of one of the most known people in the world and most influential social media owner...and he didn't prep
Little Platoon makes some hilariously salient points & that journo should absolutely be "photo-shopping tits on page three!" 🤣 (R.I.P page 3 😭)
Thank you to talk about "Charlie Hebdo" caricatures. As a French Guy, I have never been so much chocked and angry than after the killings of journalists and humourists of Charlie Hebdo. This is the kind of events you should be angry and offended, a killing, not a fucking comment, jokes or caricatures.
The _gleichschaltung_ of the BBC is exposed. In fact, it's now so endemic, that perhaps it never occurred to the "journalist" that he would have to verify, defend, or define his opinion, even in the absence of identified cheerleaders to witness the interview. What, exactly, can the BBC create that equals what people on TH-cam, some of whom are lone amateurs, have been able to do?
This is hardly a 'gotcha' moment, although the interviewer should have been more prepared. I see hateful comments on Twitter constantly, but if you asked me right now for an example I wouldn't be able to give you any exact one. He could have also pointed to any of the numerous studies which have shown an increase in hate speech, particularly anti-semitism.
Whatever you think of Musk, you don't become successful like him by being vague. You have to be able to define the basics.
Yeah, you become successful by inheriting millions and taking the credit for what your engineers do, lol.
@@erubin100 That's a flat out lie.
You know Satan is called the prince of lies?
@@erubin100 Engineers do alot of things, come up with alot of things. 99% of them are not profitable inherently. You have to find the ideas that are, figure out how to make them so, figure out how to mass produce them, where to source parts and materials, how to market them, how to sell them. Bill Gates had a wealthy dad too but Gates made more money than his dad could have ever dreamed of.
"Then I say sir, that you don't know what you're talking about" Is a line that feels like it could come out of Victorian drama novel.
And this is why doing your homework is important as a reporter. If you are going to attack someone during an interview with a “ gotcha “, have some hard evidence. Watching this interview gives me hope that even I can be a reporter with no college education.
Before the 1970’s, journalism was a blue collar profession.
I’m afraid the only qualification one needs is a college education. That way they know you’ve been through the indoctrination camp
@@JamesHarveyDavies it’s ridiculous that some people call this news. News flash, there is always going to be that one jack off that will say some hateful stuff. The beauty of free speech you can choice to listen to that person or ignore them. No one is forcing anyone to read or listen to hate speech. It’s also an individuals choice if you will let it bother you. As a people we need to let go off all this trash that “bothers us”. Live your life and enjoy. Filter out what you can that you don’t agree with. If a movie studio wants to push there “message” let them. I can choice not to watch and in return they get no money and I can go get a burrito and beer. Cheers 🍻
Especially someone who is a savant and remembers everything…… I wouldn’t argue what color my own truck is with this guy even if he’s never seen it before.
This was such a great interview, Elon completely and deservedly wrecked that guy :)
It's like all journalists are working with a common purpose.
Like Orwell's 1984
Those many millions of dollars of "donations" from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation to most major journalism schools are paying off for the fucker.
Elon Musk schooled that fool.
The best part of all this is that Musk published the entire interview, while the BBC version got chopped down to about 1-2 mins of content not showing any of the parts where Musk worked him like a part time job. Then they got so much backlash that they published the entire clip on their site only...basically just proved his point for him (regarding state censorship of the BBC).
The BBC needs to get back to good old impartial journalism and quality entertaim,emt rather than pushing the agendas of certain demographics.
You a big Elon fan drinker? You know you're at your best when you're not drinking rightoid koolaid.
Twitter did the same w NPR (US National Public Raio)--the 'Gov't sponsored media' tag, and they rage quit. Absolutely hilarious..
Wasn't NPR created by an act of congress?
Another result of the journo bubble effect. He probably just assumed everyone believes there is constant "hate speech" everywhere. Since him and his buddies in the bubble all think it to be so.
It's like a pool player challenging a snooker master, whilst your lining up your next shot, he's already cleared the table in his mind, that's how many steps ahead he is.
It's more like a self-appointed geometry expert challenging a snooker master, being certain he knows every shot he needs to clear the table and then picks up a cue and realises he doesn't know which end you hit the balls with.
That story about the journalism classroom reminds me of an experience I had in one of my AP English classes back in high school.
We were tasked with writing a persuasive essay, so I did. I think it was an essay on what a scam the Social Security System is. I got one comment back from my teacher in big red letters: "Stop Standing on your Soap Box." Utterly confused, I asked her what she meant by that, since the assignment WAS to write what I did. She couldn't give me a satisfying explanation of what I was doing wrong, so I just shrugged, took the lower grade, and moved on.
I liked everything you did except for taking the lower grade. You let her off the hook.
@@sandman_says_runrunner4701 Not always possible to do anything about it.
@@BWMagus There are always options. Whether people take them or not is the crux.
Also, it was the "I just shrugged, took the lower grade, and moved on." that I had the issue with. This suggests not even attempting a push back or standing up for yourself.
Exactly like the Peterson interview on C4.
I'm not a fan of much of what Musk or Peterson say but watching them demolish intellectually lazy and poorly prepared journos used to thinking emotionally loaded questions are the same as a gotcha... Is so glorious.
Another example of how main stream journalism is everything but journalism. Every interview is either a hostile debate or a cosigned PSA.
"I feel that this is the truth"
"Well facts say that this is the truth"
"Bigot!"
That's the left in a nutshell tbh.
I only heard about it when my colleagues talk about it
You have to have a special dose of self regard to think you can just show up at someone's door and demand an interview
That's kind of how Elon is. He gave Tim Dodd, aka Everyday Astronaut, an exclusive tour around Starbase. Tim even made an observation and a suggestion abeut Starship... which Elon then started thinking about and is now part of the design. Tim Dodd is now also getting to ride said Starship around the Moon. See what happens if you talk nicely to people, BBC?
The sense of entitlement expands to absurdity when he tells Musk “we only have a limited amount of time.” Seriously? Other than live TV, it is the interviewee who sets time limits and surely Musk’s time is infinitely more valuable than this clown.
To quote the Drinker...'evidence?....nah..it'll be fine'😉
The reporter also walked right into a trap by having it streamed on twitter instead of them handling it so they could edit all this out, but since Musk was basically in control of the whole thing, the guy was trapped from the start.
It wasn't a trap at all.
The "journalist" made an absolute fool of himself.
He could have asked honest questions and not tried to say vague, stupid lies.
He could have supported free speech instead of pushing for speech control, like a demon.
Basically the corporate media needs to rig it for them
"That was a false!"
"No...!"
"You just lied!"
😀
The bigger problem is that the BBC (and others) use terms like "hate speech" without actually being able to define it (and understand the limitations of the term, and where it is NOT applicable).
They use the word 'hate speech' to mean anything they disagree with.
One of the best interviews ever. Elon bodied that fool.
Good on Elon to anticipate that the BBC would heavily edit the interview after by broadcasting it live on Twitter spaces to show the raw truth.
"This isn't getting anywhere . . . " = "I'm getting smoked"
When a journalist is used to just getting to make stuff up without having to provide sources...
It’s like his only preparation was the Drinker’s fate-tempting “Ahh, it’ll be fine.”
You know this guy went home after that and had an existential crisis. That was brutal.
Crazy to think we get better news and journalism from Russel Brand than main stream media these days
You don't though. Brand is an opportunistic grifter.
@@mrkeogh yes but he can get away with it
@@mrkeogh
Maybe they all are
Is RT trustworthy or the magazine I hear is good alternative Nexus, I have no examples, anyway moving on
@@mrkeogh if Brand is an “opportunistic grifter” who gave him the opportunity? The establishment media who stopped doing their jobs sometime around 2008.
That really is amazing. they whole thing online has always been "if you dont like it, dont watch it" he did exactly that, stopped following the "for you" and now he cant find any examples of the things hes trying to avoid. IT works!
"But, I shouldn't have to put in any effort to curate my media! The whole fucking world should just automatically cater to me!"
Oh sh!t, Razorfist was on this stream? I gotta watch the whole thing!
Must have been the first interview elon didnt sound like a salesman making it up as he goes along
YOU HAD ONE JOB (to find and report back to Elon some hate speech) 🤣🤣😂😂
They have been in their echo chamber for so long they can't believe it when someone challenges their opinion. Its why he didn't prepare.
RazorFist brings up great point about Journalist schools. It might also be a great opportunity. Conservative, libertarian or even fact based journalism. If the "Traditional" colleges have shifted left, then there is going to be a market for a Right or even neutral journalism school.
Problem is that it's extremely difficult to get accredited, or for your graduates to get jobs. It'd have to be all from the ground up. Really, though, I think the better solution is to erode this notion of needing a piece of paper to do journalism. Be a doctor or lawyer or engineer? Sure, but to write an article? Plenty of intelligent people do that with no official education in the topic.
In a meritocracy he'd lose his job. But because he likely falls in line with the "correct" ideology , he will be fine
Yes, Im sure the BBC will promote him after this interview
I was studying journalism from 2004-2007. I took many semesters of how to write liberal propaganda and it wasn't this bad then.
Because you used to have to at least try to hide it. Now you can just write an article that says some bullshit like "White people should be denied medical care because they live longer than black people" and it'll win an award.
I love when people think a degree in journalism actually makes them intelligent!
It was so brilliant when Elon said "It's Elon time." and then he eloned all over that interviewer.
And everyone clapped.