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hey. its me! we're hearing more and more stories from people who have worked with him before. hope other recruiters know they cant disrespect people anymore. thanks for covering it prime, good to get your thoughts on it.
Sorry this happened to you dude.
sounds tough mate. all the best with everything.
and that was you in the twitch chat? wild. recruiters need to check themselves more man.
@@frydegz Terrible people who end up with an inch of power over others get even more terrible
You made a fake story. Good job.
He didn't just burn the bridge, he drove the boat straight into it
Baltimore?
too early man 😭
cargo ships cant bend metal girders
@@pluto8404 th-cam.com/video/sweWMxpTwKg/w-d-xo.html
I guarantee this was in the Baltimore area. This is my life.
Recruiters are incompetent and often quite presumptuous
"Guess we should get machines on the job"...
/*Sorry I should finished watching Invincible my brain needs to settle down*/
Not all, there have been some great recruiters and technically minded and have helped me through the interview process and getting me through my anxiety.
However, there's no doubt that there are many that are sales people and very presumptuous.
Most of them. But every once in a while you'll find a good one, and they actually listen and try to find good fits. They are worth their weight in gold.
every time i go on linkedin i have half a dozen messages from recruiters trying to recruit me to positions with not a single technology present in my linkedin, they are so incredibly incompetent it hurts
Keep in mind that recruiters are by their nature, Salespeople. And since the money is good there are a lot of less-talented people trying their hand at it.
If a release required you find a new person uniquely skilled to confirm your pull request you’d find a lot of useless devs in your inbox trying to get ahead by cutting corners.
Not all devs are bad, just as not all recruiters are bad.
one minute in I had to pause this. this is absolutely shocking "I won't work with you again and will do my best to make sure other recruiters and companies know the same" did this person seriously just threaten to black ball someone from the tech industry like what a sleezy producer in Hollywood would do to actos they dont like so they dont get gigs? especially as someone who's who's trying to get a dev internship thats fucking nightmarish and scary and downright vindictive.
This is really that shocking to you? When’s the last time you talked with a recruiter? I’ve experienced a fair bit of childish ones in all these years. This isn’t that uncommon, but what is uncommon is them putting this in text. Most of the time they call you so it’s not recorded.
@@HammytheSammy-ds2em If thats true thats a huge problem, so far iI've had only very brief interactions with recruiters but with that being said I'm going to look out for this type of stuff.
@alexh2665 you don't need to worry. There isn't a secret group chat between recruiters at big tech companies or anything. This recruiter couldn't get anyone other than himself excluded from a job in tech.
@@alexh2665 It’s not a huge plague, but it’s certainly an issue in the field. It’s a big enough issue there’s a Reddit page devoted to it though, lol.
@@alexh2665 if you're looking to hire staff, recruiters will 100% professional and work really hard to build a customer relationship, but if you're just a potential employee they couldn't give a shit about you. Recruiters are generally awful in my experience.
most polite tech recruiter
common tech recruiter L
I don't wish AI on anyone, but I wouldn't shed a tear if the recruitment sector got a little squeezed.
Brother the tech recruiting industry could shrink big time with regular intelligence today. Perceived and actual value are FAR apart.
What the hell is a “Principal Recruiter” doing that a senior isn’t?
@@frydegz They make their juniors work extra hard for extra long time while they sit on chair and call random person and talk on phone like they are in their own bedroom and piss everyone else in the office if its an open space. I think that takes a certain amount of skill and extra thick skull.
The pyramid structure of the recruiters is such a scam.
100%
Imagine an AI trained on such interactions though..
I've had 2 scheduled (with calendly) interviews for pinterest that were suddenly changed the morning of the pre-scheduled time, then got berated for not being able to attend.
This is the worst batch of recruiters I've had to interact in my professional life, by a lot
If there was a calendar invite, Outlook could easily have messed it up with the time of year being around daylight savings.
I had an internal meeting between UK and Portugal 6 months ago, same time zone, daylight savings changed on the same day, and Outlook still messed up the calendar invite.
I thought Portugal might be in a diffrent Timezone but no they are. The rest of fuckin europe arent and countries like the west sahara arent but Portugal and maderia share a diffrent Timezone with Ireland and GB.
Also the timezone map looks like someone had a fuckin stroke.
I work for a company in the states that does not follow daylight savings time, so they are 1 hour off from the rest of the states in their timezone.
that's still no excuse for talking like that
What even is a calender invite? Just state the full date and time and timezone if appropiate.
@@ChrisWijtmans For on-line meetings mostly
I had a company offer me a 3 month unpaid internship but there was a $33 lab fee per month.
Lol! Wtf 😂
What the hell?? “Pay us to work for us, fuck you”
@@notNajimi I rejected the offer and shortly after they took down their ad.
He actually gave good advice: "take responsibility". Yeah, i hope he reads it himself and follows his own advice 😆
5:00 Funny thing is, people skip out on interviews ALL the time. Things happen that are more important than dealing a company that you don't work for. You might have accepted another offer. Could had been an emergency you had to handle. I used to recruit, people not going to their interview is surprisingly common.
So many people have only recently learned the word "narcissism" and its so painfully obvious.
Prime: "Everything you say may or may not make it into public domain"
Also Prime: 8:03
Lmfaooo
I have never once had a good experience with a recruiter from an Agency. If you don't WORK FOR the company that you're trying to get me to apply to, you go straight to the ignore box lol.
why is it that this is a huge problem with dedicated recruiting services
@@alexh2665 I think the problem is fundamental. It's probably a very competitive space and the people who own the recruiting agencies run it by looking at spreadsheets and numbers rather than actually trying to provide a good service.
@@alexh2665 Because they're grifter middlemen with no qualifications, experience or knowledge in the areas they recruit for. On many occasions I've seen them describe .NET as a required language for a job description.
@@alexh2665 because they don't really care about the candidates, they have zero time or interest in building any real relationship with candidates. Recruiters are basically sales people, they have targets to hit each month and their commission (i.e. their coke money) is based on them getting someone (anyone) hired into the role.
Every time I reply TH-cam deletes it lol. I'm not using curse words or anything. TH-cam is such a trash platform
The recruiter seems to mistakenly believe that his time is valuable, and even if that were true, he would only be able to blame himself for wasting it.
This is real. Recruiters have nothing to disincentivize them from doing this more.
Basically some recruiters don't care about getting you a job placement; they just get as many people into potentially irrelevant interview as possible so they keep their own jobs.
Nature takes the path of least resistance.
Something tells me the guy dodged a Bullet there.
The chances of someone accusing you of being a "Narcissist" while being one themselves is pretty high. (It is called Projection. A trait of narcissistic personality disorder)
Chances are, that the guys who hired that recruiter are also incompetent and got blinded by his show.
This is literally every recruiter ever. Super normal. At 10pm on the weekend. "I'm literally working right now F'er. Pick up the phone. I know you are free. You need to talk to me about the best opportunity of your life. Stop throwing away such a gift."
"I sent you all this information multiple times (text, email, etc.) and you confirmed it."...."You never picked up or returned calls, confirmed with myself(and in turn E7) and no showed for an interview, and "played dumb" after you missed the interview." So which is it buddy, he confirmed it with you or he didn't? Seems he contradicts himself within the two replies.
I've had some terrible encounters with recruiters. The most recent one being I had finished all the interviews at this company, things were looking good. I went on holiday for a week and when I came back I emailed the recruiter for an update. A couple days later I had no reply which was very weird, this guy would normally call or email me straight away. So I phoned him up and he was real mad that I had gone on holiday without telling him. That I hadn't answered one of his post interview feedback calls (because I was on holiday) and because of that he got petty and told the company I was no longer interested in the position.
If the recruiter was a 3rd party contractor, and you're still interested in working with that company after that type of mess, you should contact the company directly, explain what happened, and see if they're still interested in hiring you. Either way, they're probably not going to work with that recruiter again, which I think is fair justice.
That can't even be a timezone confusion, because east is ahead of west, so the rest of the country is behind you in time. Sounds like a recruiter skill issue.
Recently dealt with a recruiter from a 3rd party org working for one of the largest software companies in the world. Utterly useless. No feedback, no coaching on the interviews, didn't provide any details on the format of the interviews, how many there would be, when to expect an outcome. Primary contact went on leave and didn't hand over my application, so I had to push to set up dates for successive interviews. Just cold dropped me after the 4th interview. Won't return calls or emails. And best of all, there's no feedback process, so they can just go on being incompetent. I guess we're all so "customer focused" until the customer also happens to be an interviewee.
you were the recruiter in this situation. some recruiters just dont do their job but expect everything out of a candidate
That's usually what happens when you give most people just an ounce of power.
I once had an interview that was scheduled for CET (+01:00), i'm in WET (+00:00) so i was late. the interviewer was nothing but understanding about it and even said they would ask for the website to be fixed so it adjusts for the timezone (there was no indication of timezone at all hence the confusion)
That "good luck" was he being professional.
That dude used the phrase “valuable time”, like, twice in the same message. Really jarring. As if he doesn’t really believe it is and has to remind himself of it.
A recruiter once told me "you're just a loser" because I didn't get accepted in two vacancies in a row.
In this case the company showed that its a terrible place to work for.
This wasnt an interview checking out the applicant for the job, but the company.
And they failed.
A recruiter once refused to work with me because I had a 4 year work history gap. It was when I went to college.
This reeks of a scam. He most likely wanted you to come back begging that he wouldn't "ruin your career" or some nonsense. This would be the initial hook and then the follow up would involve you either working for free and wiring him money in some way for whatever reason he cooks up.
Nonsense like this is partly why I stopped dealing with third-party recruiters. At least if a company's in-house recruiter pulls this nonsense on me I can more directly pin losing my opportunity at that company on "not being a fit with that company's culture" rather than some game of Telephone or someone not even at the company having a bad day.
Prime’s mom has got it going on~
Wild. Putting libel and slander in recorded writing when your job is to recruit people is a fast track to being unemployed.
This literally happened to me! Like 3 weeks ago! I had a full on panic attack when they phoned me while I was eating dinner... They thought they could just phone whenever for the first interview...
I wasn't very happy and luckily they rescheduled and actually sent an invite due to my insistence.
After getting that text with the !?! I wouldn't even reply. Either that or I would reply with "Yeah okay pipe down buddy you're a corporate lacky and got to sit and do nothing for our time slot while still getting paid. Cry more."
i am new in your channal and from tunisia and i have fun listen to you ,and rust and go in my countries no body no know about all this languages
What programming languages are popular in Tunisia?
@@ivanjermakovstoning and bombs
@@andyvirus2300 did you ever know that city of Tunusia, capital of Tunisia, 2 thousand year ago called fucking CARTHAGE?
@@stal1n63 I feel like there is a point somewhere in your comment ?
I hope it’s not that having history that goes back two thousand years ago make being a shithole now better ? That’s actually worse…
I had a similar issue. I confirmed the time, went to the meeting and no one was there. The recruiter said he did not get my confirmation email. It may happen that you miss it if you are recruiting lots of people. No biggy. A second time again the same. I called him out on it happening again. His answer was to insult me because "You are telling the truth because you did not actually confirm". I sent him both confirmation emails again with timestamps, and asked him to delete my data from their servers.
i can write a book about my horror stories with recruiters. Last recruiter i worked with couple of years ago literally ganged up with my manager when i sent my resignation, basically my real manager assigned me to a new team for a new project, then he moved to another company and so the new manager without telling me assigned me to another team and the day where i was moving he literally told me this is your team, ie a different team with technology i dont work with and a project i have no interest in joining. So i resigned and thst manager played a dirty trick with the recruiting firm, somehow writing in the database behind my back that they let me go and its not me who quit. I knew that because the recruiters tongue slipped when we spoke and when I asked to send me a copy of the email they disappeared. Mind you this was a prestigious company i was working at, do you think they will ever know what that manager did? i doubt. But this is how recruiting firms deal.with you, anything to keep a buck.
What's really funny is that lots of companies I know of would rather have you quit than fire you, since firing you means they're responsible for paying unemployment benefits. They really shot themselves in the foot with that decision.
@@alexlowe2054 I was working as an incorporated individual, hourly paid. In either case, thats a place i would like to keep as a client but most probably now i have been put on their blacklist by this manager without the company having a clue about all of this.
I had a similar thing happen with my grade 10 english teacher after I voiced my distaste for a movie he liked. He still works there somehow
anyone else think that second part of the screed from that recruiter sounded like when Bing AI went off at people accusing them of lying and saying "you need to take responsibility you hurt many people" etc? lmao
Like our Diplomatic Practice Professor said (a fmr. Diplomat and Ambassador for a huuuuuge country) "There is no OTR".
This recruiters shadow runs deep
I had two recruiter businesses try to defraud me and my business for ~70k. (Claiming i had contracts with them when i did not). Did not communicate with me at all and when they did pretend to help me with the police with email correspondence they had the police drop the investigation a day later. The account manager guy that signed the fake contract has the same family name as someone who works at the police for "business integrity". I am sure it is all a coincidence. Oh i always hated recruiters and their wage slaving mentality, must have a target on my back 🙄.
FLIP!! Why'd you cut out the "apology" content?
don't take it too hard. tech recruiters are barely even human.
yea, they ain't normally nice then wounder why no one want's to work their. very few recruiters overall is respectful. I always give praise to the good ones tho.
I understand not to burn bridges, I agree with that point to an extent.
But, for your specific example, I'd like to provide a different perspective. If I was given that contract where they say all my work is theirs, I'd not renegotiate. They have shown their hand and told me the only thing that matters to them is profit and advantage. Which is totally valid, sure. I'd return the contract and say nicely that I would need to go elsewhere.
If someone's first instinct is to take all with a contract, they are more than willing to throw you under the bus later so they can still have the advantage.
Don't burn bridges, but shut down the ones that lead to hell.
This does not cover all aspects of working with others and such. Companies are going to have to do things they don't like, etc...
But as an individual, that's how I'd approach it.
There is a fine line between erring on the side of politeness and acting like a peasant terrified of the wrath of his feudal lord.
And when you live in a society of scared peasants there is a pervasive expectation that anything less than an attitude of submissive terror maintained 24/7 is "unprofessional behaviour" that could end up in the "public domain".
I personally would have responded with "Oh my god this is so embarrassing, no one would believe me if I told them someone could project this hard. My condolences for your family. I will make sure it is known to others what kind of character you are. Best regards!"
Im a recruiter (pretty new to the field, just finished being an intern) and i didnt know recruiters in IT are hated so much, judging by comments here
I was wondering why some people would rather eat a sock than talk to a person from an agency
Now i know why
It's because the recruiters are incentivized to fill the position and they decide you are a super star engineer 2 minutes in to the first phone call. Then they sell you super hard to the client and when it falls through they actually do look bad. If they were simply honest and neutral about you then if things fell through their reputation wouldn't be caught in the middle.
Certain cultures have a big problem with being honest, more so than others.
@MrSnivvel nothing good comes from being honest. "Wing it, till you need to bing it."
@@pluto8404
It's why I have no problem lying about how many years of experience I have.
In IT, not SWE, but some of the same nonsense happens here.
Absence of a calendar invite is pretty common.
How are agencies still around?
I seriously believe a lot of it is a pyramid scheme.
bureaucracy
Peak corporate efficiency.
same reason consultants still exist. Gives management/execs someone else to blame when stuff goes south.
I paused the video just before you started talking about your mom. I un-paused and completely forgot about the Call of Duty lobby context. My face was just as shocked as yours!
You can always choose to be mean later if you need to, you can't turn around and be nice though, it won't be received as sincere.
I've fortunately never seen a recruiter this bad, nor anywhere close to be fair. Hard to imagine this exists.
I literally "dropped" a free-lancing offer because the setup (React native project) was so outdated and missing permissions (both on local files and Apple / github / etc) ad it was being such a pain the in
That recruiter is absolutely unhinged. I've been shown more respect by scammers trying to con me out of money
Here in Austria the recuiters are not that aggressive, at least the ones I had contact with. A lot of them are not that knowledgeable tho about the tech-space in general. "You did webwork, and php? How about this systems-engineering offer?" Feels a lot like the AMS (don't know what it's called in america, but basically a government operated organisation that is responsible for giving you unemployment-aid and encourage/help ypu to get a job). There they are also like "You work with the computers, yes? How about this random data-entry-job. What so you mean you are an engineer?"
I also had one that took my CV and used it as an incentive for a company to make them work with him. Never got back to me. A few weeks later I got contacted by another recruiter that offered me the same position, tho from an agency that worked with the company, got an instant invite.
That backfired for the recruiter pretty badly lmao
Meanwhile recruiters ghost candidates regularly.
Active agressive
8:00 lol yes!
Strong Amy's Baking Company vibes there
Black Ops 2, Hardcore only! I hit 100k kills and then sold my Xbox
The problem was that he was talking to a recruiter. No matter how hard it is to get jobs, never resort to a snake of a recruiter, fix your damn resume and keep making it better. Never stop sending that shit out, no matter how many times you have to do it. There was a time where I would habitually browse job forms and send my resume out, while doing my uni classes. That's why I've got a job, literally did not count the number of applications I made - it was enough for it to be a habit. But I never used a recruiter. The more layers between you and your employer, the more meaningless trouble. Or rather, in general the more layers between any two things that should be directly communicating, the more stupidity occurs.
Always send messages as if they're going to be read in court is advice I live by.
Responding nicely is an American thing.
He got recruiters tourettes with that "Good luck!" at the end 😂
The name is theprimeagen if anyone is wondering
My recruiter never texts me back to inform me about my application status, but when I text him, she said: "stop fking annoying me, you don't text, we do"
Bro, are you and Theo synced? Ya’ll putting out the exact same videos at almost the exact same times these days lol.
It's all about the networking meta.
@@3_smh_3 No its just what people put on reddit. They are just reacting to what people want.
That recruiter looked really familiar to me... then I realized he'd reached out to me in the past and was a complete jerk then too, so I blocked him.
One of my hobbies is wasting LinkedIn recruiters' time. Gotta say I haven't seen one this unprofessional before.
it's not a real interaction. and apparently no one knows what passive aggressive means. it just sounds cool.
That guy used roasted ai to write that mail😂
Recruiters are just the literal worse, on par with HR
They think they are superior to everyone else but LITERALLY contribute nothing to actual humanity, worthless
Fun fact: the guy is the CEO of a consultancy company of just purely recruitment and HR
Time to show them the door
How can you post receipts if the guy made it all up?
I had this once, no meeting link, no much info it is horrible
Recruiters top the list of overpaid people who do nothing for their money .... right above real estate agents and notaries
What’s the over under on the recruiter being Indian?
yo, what happens next? it just ends here? they never talk again?
A recruiter that say a lot on email is funny, if it is true, since that would mean that recruiter has nothing else to do, and instead choose to waste time on this guy who no show. Also usually recruiter will make phone calls. So it will be on the candidate for not providing the right information and or not answering the phone call. This tweet is obviously not show the actual email exchange for a reason. Can’t trust this poster 😅
Low to medium power corrupts.
So I can a little popular if I share my struggle with recruiters?
How do we know that the recruiter is not just an AI chat bot???
lol you missed text afterwards
its a bit weird how the recruiter said "i sent you information in multiple formats and you confirmed it and still didnt show" and the guy made no attempt to defend himself, instead just said youre rude can i speak to your manager
Another prime banger
As an interviewer I love when people no-show, I get to skip it
I thought Prime React series is him talking about React but I feel scammed!
Indian
Exactly, I could smell it a mile away with this one. Superpower 2020 🤣
Knew it
If you look at the tweets, the recruiter's name is Jordan Zmick.
I don't know why you people have such hate for Indians.
@@ArnabJhaYT They often use fake names because people are aware that Indian recruiters are sketchy. It has nothing to do with hatred for all Indians lol. But it’s well known that they run resume harvesting scams posing as recruiters
worm regards
@1:55 nah if that is just another business trying to get streamers/youtubers sign up insane contracts hoping they don't know how to read, I think it's apropiate to call them in their bullshit. They are just trying to take your shit. There's no negotiation, there's no bridge to burn, they are probably off-shore workers working for an american business that just have a bunch of contracts with content creators to generate money
It's like some time ago someone made an article of a queer content creator that digged things from like 2016-2018 to make a very transphobic article, doxxed them, published their full name (they use a pseudonym) and then asked said content creator for comments. "You can eat my ass" (I think they said as far as I remember). What would have been polite? to say "I don't want to comment thank you"?. No. fuck them. if a company is trying to make a very insidious story of a person doing nothing, and with a very niche comunity, in a blog that nobody reads unless you are 55+ years old, I would NEVER want to work with said company
[bunch of insults and personal attacks]
good luck!
kind regards,
i think there were at least two idiots
I finish college in 4 weeks
recruiter added me? you go to the block list
What’s e7?
LMAO did he just said to that poor guy to k himself????!!!!!
how do we know that this is true ?
It’s so crazy to respond like that, one would almost believe it’s fake. But than again , it’s America. Disrespect for everyone without a job is the basis of its culture, no matter what is the reason for that situation. You guys have serious culture issues.