Finish mower vs Flail vs Rotary cutter. Episode #9 Caroni TM1900, Caroni TC910, John Deere 4066R
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ส.ค. 2019
- In this episode I give my thoughts after owning a rotary cutter, flail mower and a finish mower. These are being ran on a John Deere 4066R that is 66HP and 52 PTO HP. Subscribe for future videos around the homestead
View out other channel for outdoor related content such as fishing, boating and hunting! / @tkoutdoors
These are Amazon affiliate links to items I use in my videos.
Battery powered fuel pump amzn.to/331dFMz
Go pro hero 7 camera amzn.to/321rI3k
My drone amzn.to/32YW9st
My editing laptop amzn.to/331eOnl
My shop storage metal peg board amzn.to/2MZ08j1
I just want to thank you, very much for your video. You put a lot of time and effort in comparing both mowers. I have to purchase a mower and you really helped me. All the very best.
Thanks for the kind comment and I'm happy to hear my video helped you. Appreciate you watching!
Thank you so much for this comparison. Very helpful. I wasn't even aware of the flail type before watching this. I like how you covered your HP ratings to the cutter type and size.
Your very welcome, thanks for watching! A lot more videos on my channel showing me run that flail and finish mower if you are interested.
I hadn't considered a flail mower & really hadn't paid much attention to them in my tractor research but now I'm pretty sure I'm going to get a flail (preferably w/hydraulic offset) instead of a mid mount. They're also supposed to be good @ mulching. I'm not overly particular about my own lawn although the flail seems to do a pretty good job plus can cut heavier brush, etc.
The one I bought offers hydraulic offset, seems like a nice feature to add. As far as mulching and thicker mowing goes, watch this video of me mowing. It impresses me all the time th-cam.com/video/5B_TMCe7Sh8/w-d-xo.html
@@TKCL Thanks! Hydraulic offset seems like the way to go for what I expect to be doing. I'd never considered a flail until someone suggested it on a forum. I'm actually going to the dealer tomorrow to test drive tractors (1st time owner & also going start a business w/it) so that's step 1 & I need to make sure I can equip what I want with the rear SCV's I want (some confusion on the manufacturer's website). I mulch my own leaves in the fall & even if this was just used a first pass & I had to finish the job w/my push mower (I don't have a huge amount of lawn) it'd be great. I'm also thinking I'll be able to reach a lot more area on my own property w/a flail vs. a mid mount and that it would open up what I can offer to customers esp. since I do not intend to just mow grass for hire - Plenty of ppl already do that.
This is by far the best video ever done on this subject on TH-cam. Great job man, keep up the good work.
Wow thanks for the positive feedback! As soon as spring rolls back around I'll be doing a lot more mowing videos. Thanks for watching!
The best video out there explaining the differences. I went from a 6 brush hog to a flail mower with similar cutting width. I did this mostly to avoid the windrows in my hay field that the rotary mower left. Now I can cut all the junk in the spring without leaving a bunch of thatch. This saves me from having to bale and try to get of that 1st cut.
Yes wind rows are a big problem with rotary mowers and something that I don't miss. They have their place though like most things. Thanks for stopping by the channel!
You can also look at Tractor Time With Tim... or Messik's, amazing channels too..
Totally agree with you. I got a flail mower a few years ago and just love it. I also picked up a brush cutter flail and it has the heavy hammers that make it equal to my old brush hog. It will pulverize any small trees up to whatever you have the inspiration to do.
I've yet to run a heavy duty flail, but I've seen them in action and they are impressive. I did the majority of clearing on our property with a rotary mower when I first bought it. Rotary mowers are definitely good for heavy clearing, not much else in my opinion.
Excellent demonstration and contrast of results. Well done!
Thanks for watching
Thanks for the evaluation - Helped a lot in the decision making process.
You are welcome! Glad it helped
Awesome job on the video, Thank you for posting it.
Your welcome, glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching!
Really impressed by these contents of yours! We appreciate that you have chosen Caroni for your grass and we love your videos so much! Looking forward to see more! A big hug from Italy and stay safe! Ps. we remain at your disposal for anything you could need.
Thank you, I love your products. Great quality for a very reasonable price! I've had years of reliable service out of both of my mowers. I constantly use and recommend your products in my videos. Thanks for bringing quality and affordable attachments to the USA!
@@TKCL Any idea if this is JD QH Imatch compatible without modifications? thanks for the video.
Not sure, never used the quick hitch since it's so easy to operate the tractor outside the cab on R series tractors.
Great comparisons. Very thorough! And, I agree!
Thank you for watching
Hello Andrew. No one does a product review video better than you. You're the best! God bless.
Thank you for watching!
Just got a ditch and bank flail mower with the hydraulics for extending and angling. Absolutely love it.
Sounds awesome!
Nice! I almost bought a flail mower a couple years ago, it had hammers on it instead of knives. Looks like you can move the hitch on yours and center it with the tractor. I’d like that option. And it’s gotta be awesome mowing in the ac!! I have a 1026R with a canopy and I’m proud to have that!
Yes I love this tractor! I had a open station John Deere 3720 for years and it was a sweet tractor too.
If you had the Woods Rm990 finishing mower you would most likely use the flail mower only when you needed offset . I also use a hydraulic cylinder as 3rd link so you can tip up and down. It only has 6 swinging blades too sharpen
I love how the birds are following you
Me too, I call them my buddy's. I use to have one that would stay on top of my barn and sometimes under it, waiting for me to get on the tractor. They love eating the grasshoppers I stir up.
They know that mowing time means BUG time👌👌
The "shredder section" of a gas powered chipper shredder uses flails to chop up the material into fine chips, similar to how your flail mower works. Thanks for the detailed comparison and explanation.
Thanks for watching
Absolutely awesome review. Thank you!
Thank you for watching
Well done. Flail mower is impressive.
It's a nice piece of equipment, used it again yesterday for about 10 acres of mowing
Excellent detail mate. tks
Great video and explanation!
Thank you!
I mow 12 acres with a NH tc33d. A Woods rm990 finish mower I found takes les hp to run then other 5 blade 90" mowers. The Woods is only 3 spindles with 6 light 13" blades. I only mow 3 times in the summer.
I’m impressed how smooth your field is that your able to mow so fast with the tractor
I worked on smoothing that field for weeks to get it to that point. It was rough, overgrown and full of old crop rows when I bought the property. I wish I had started recording back then.
@@TKCLreviving an old comment... How did you smooth it?
Tied a bunch of old semi tires together and drug them with a chain. This was after I disced the field several times and allowed the roots of everything to rot.
great review ! thank you for the info.
Your welcome, thanks for watching!
Another excellent video!
Thank you sir!
Nice job ! Thank you.
Your welcome, thanks for watching.
I don’t even know how I came across your channel, but you have some nice content. Bahia grass I know your in the South. I’m from Louisiana, but now live in Middle Tennessee. Nice Deere too.
Well I'm glad you found the channel and thank you for the feedback. Yep definitely from the south, in North Florida. Love my John deere. Tennessee is a beautiful place
I have a ATH 600 Brush Hog finish mower 60 inch cut I ran and It cut
beautifully. They're mainly for large properties where you can mow
straight, and a pain if you have a lot of tight areas. I have mine
up for sale because I Sold the large property I had.
I definitely have a lot of tight turns, especially in my yard and around our property perimeter.
I have a ditch and bank flail I have just started to use. It does an good job it seems from each cut. I cut next to an area also cut by commercial mowers. After a few days I actually think my cuts look better than theirs. One thing I noticed in your video you stated that I kind of experienced with mine. I had the skids to low and mine would occasionally dig in. I raised them and used the top link to rotate mine back onto the roller. So far so good. This in combination with adjusting the rock arms allows me to adjust my height as well. Although our two cutters differ as mine has a slot in the top link to allow for some drift in terrain I don’t think I see in yours. I do cut a much larger flat area than bank. I also am running with a 4066R.
Mine also has the top link float option, but I prefer solid mount so I can keep it back on the roller. Putting more weight to the rear definitely helps with dragging debris under the front skids and digging trenches. So far I love it, just wish it was about a foot wider for quicker mowing. Thanks for stopping by the channel!
@@TKCL I can relate to wanting a larger one. I’d like to have a regular pull behind or side shift flail, but to get wide enough to be handy would be a little difficult to trailer. It would also be difficult to justify the cost of the Woods BW12 ( 12’ batwing ) not long ago.
Batwing is the ticket for pasture mowing, my buddy has one. However the cost is something I could never justify.
thanks....maybe I will look into a front mounted flail
I've often thought about a front mount, would be kind of interesting.
That looks like it would make good hay to. Keep them blades good and sharp on finish mower and drive the appropriate speed the finish mower will do a good job.
It would, but I planted it for animals that we hope to start putting on the pasture this year.
Great video thank you!
Thank you for watching
Great information, thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it. Just bought a rotary mower. So I'll have a more detailed comparison video coming soon.
Great comparison
Thank you
NICE. LOOK AT THAT SKY.
Hey, thanks for watching!
Thank you very much for your helpful videos. They are being very useful when deciding on what type of mower to buy. A great and instructive job. Have you been able to see the difference in grass about the cut between the Y blades and the hammers? Thanks again!
I'm using scoops or duck foot blades, not hammers. Hammers are for heavy duty cutting. When I tried the scoops the cut quality was better. However it definitely put more of load on the tractor and stirred up more dust. The Y blades that come with the mower are a good compromise and what I prefer.
@@TKCL Thanks again! The main purpose will be cutting short grass, some areas with little stones. I’m afraid how will handle the stones the Y blades, but I like the work that your flail does with the Y blades. Very thanks for your reply. The very best!
@@enginesblues5514 Y blades will take abuse far better than the scoops or duck foot style. However any blade is going to take a beating with rocks. You might have less of a headache with beefy rotory mower blades than a flail mower.
In that heavier brush, the flair mower was pretty impressive. The brush just vanishes.
That's what I Iove about a flail, it mulches stuff down very well.
I have a flail and a rotary. They both have their place but the flail is an awesome piece of hardware! I call it “the Pulverizer Three Million”
With a flail mower keep your bearings greased and store it out of the rain. I grease my flail daily, after it’s used. Bearings for the rear roller are $70 Australian.
Good tips
Hello, I am looking for some sort of machine to remove all vegetation. I have a shooting range about 100 yards square and I want to keep it bare dirt. Right now I mow it with a tow behind finish mower behind an ATV, but it still leaves some weeds and grass. I also have a drag that I tow behind it, but I have to make 4-5 passes with it and still only about 80% of the weeds and grass is gone. I was thinking about a flail mower, tow behind tiller, or harrow but I'm not sure if that's the correct machine either. Do you have any suggestions? I don't want to use mulch or gravel, I would like it to be bare dirt. Thanks for your time.
If bare dirt is what you want and you don't have a tractor, an atv sprayer with glysophate is the best option for total vegetation control. If using herbicides is not something you want to use, a set of discs and constantly turning over the ground is another way for vegetation control. However atv discs are slow and not nearly as effective as a tractor disc on such a large area. The tiller is another option as you mentioned and will be slow but probably more effective.
This is a great comp. video. I’m considering getting a flail for my RK24
That last clip really sells the flail
A lot more flail videos on the channel, it's really impressive.
Beautiful property
Thank you, we feel very blessed to have it
How do you like that tractor during the rainy season here in Florida, I had an older tractor when we first bought our property, but I sold it and bought a used auction skid steer, because I felt it had more benefits and functions to us.. especially since I was planning to use it for digging, leveling, and creating trail out to the property, I got stuck way to often in the soft sand and the muck form the the rainy season with my tractor I had, since getting the skid steer its yet to leave me stranded, been close.. but has to date always got me out of hairy situations. I purchased a flail mower and bush hog attachment, but I rarely use the bush hog attachment due to how versatile the flail setup has been for me. For around the house, I have an old lawn tractor I've had for 15+ years from another property we had before this one, that I just want to run into the ground before upgrading from it.
I love it! No issues here with getting stuck and that AC cab is amazing in buggy and hot Florida!
I mow along field edges and waterways with a traditional brushhog, but been thinking of the flail mower. Is there much of a price difference?
Flails are quite pricey, however mine from Agri supply was very reasonable around $2200 if memory serves me right. At the moment after years of use, I still feel I made the right choice.
Great video. I purchased a WoodMax flail mower this year. It works very well as long as the terrain is fairly smooth. Over rough terrain, I prefer my rotary cutter. You mentioned your flail mover does not cut well in reverse. My mower has a big label on it stating it should not be used to cut in reverse.
Yes due to the direction of the blades it does not perform well in reverse. I don't try to cut in reverse, just stating that for people watching. Woodmaxx is a great brand from everything I read. I just purchased a wood chipper from them and released that video yesterday. At the moment their product seems very well built for the money. I was always interested in their larger flail mower. Thanks for watching!
@@TKCL I got the same chipper that you have when I got the mower. The chipper is awesome!
What type of reel do you have on the flail? Course cut or fine cut? I just pick up a used TM1900 at auction and the blades and clevis shackles are missing so I need to buy new ones. Just not sure if I wanna go with the Y blades or Hammers!! What’s you thoughts?
Y blades! They are good all around blades, cut grass and brush decent. That drum is a bit light duty for hammers and heavy brush.
I use a bush hog with the back cut out to cut hay, I run it with a 1947 ford 8n. Its about all the tractor can do makes good hay though. I know someone who uses a flail mower to cut hay. Which one uses more power to run? would a flail cutter do more with less power?
A flail in my experience is the easiest on the tractor of everything I've ran. When I use to cut this same field with a 6ft rotary mower it would bog my old tractor (44hp) down. I bought the flail and it was night and day how easy it was on my older tractor.
@@TKCL thank you, thats good to know. of course you mow with the mower you have not the one you want. I will keep an eye out for a flail mower though. Its just I'm not able to get anything new.
How fast are you mowing? Looks pretty quick. I have a 6' Woods beater on my Deere at work and depending on how smooth the ground is I can usually only mow my spots (mostly Open Space and Retention Basins) in 3rd gear in B range (3.6 mph) or sometimes 4th gear (4.7 mph) It kinda makes a mess of things the first mowing of the season, but it starts looking better after each subsequent cut. I realize beaters are never going to look as good as a finish or flail mower. I just don't think my mower goes as fast as yours does. I use the E setting for RPM, which I think is about 1500 rpm motor and 540 rpm for the PTO.
I run around 7 mph for my pasture. Keep in mind all I'm looking for is a rough cut for pasture. In the "yard" I usually run around 5 mph and cut once a week in the summer. The cut turns out great and I'm satisfied with it. This is all at 520-540 rpm.
I only run the rpm about 17-1800 in second gearin the hydro
.Not sure maybe 2 mph.
I have to turn 2500 rpm to achieve the required 540 rpm at the mower/pto. That's a pretty standard operating rpm.
@@TKCL yes. I found with the hydro I can slow the speed just a little if the grass
is thick and tall.17-1800 is real easy on fuel.
so, it appears it's best to have all three.
You are correct sir, convincing wives of that is another story....
NIce comparison... I switched from a 5', side discharge rotary to the Caroni flail about 2yrs ago. The side discharge was a real mess if my pasture got knee-high. My only flail complaint is - it rolls past a fair bit of tall, thin grass?! I removed those little swinging gates at the front to allow for a cleaner entry, but without much change. My 40hp J-D is geared and 1st/Hi is slow as molasses but 2/Hi seems too fast. I bumped up to @2200 rpm... but I am not sure of the right combo? What engine rpm were you running in this video? I just brought the Y-knives to the shop to give them a fine edge. (remove/replace is a chore-Luckily, I do not have much debris so they were not bad at all). Again, nice of you to do this video. Jim
I try to target 2500 rpm to reach the recommend 540 pto rpm. Tall grass with woody stalks is hard to clean cut with just about any mower.
@@TKCL Ok - copy that. I am so used to an old Furgeson that 2500rpm has me worried about throwing a rod. ' Best to. you. Thanks. Jim
Thanks for the video. Did I miss something? Your title says finish vs flail vs rotary - where is the rotary (I know you said it wasn't here now). Thanks
No longer have one, I explained the differences in the video since I had experience with one.
What about uneven ground? Between the 3 which would you say is best to use?
If adjusted correctly so the roller is making full contact, the flail does well. If you run over a high spot, all can scalp.
Have you thought about getting a used Toro groundsmaster 5900 I know a new one is to expensive?
The ultimate plan is fencing and some animals to help me mow
I would like your advice. I have an orchard with narrow rows where my tractor will no longer fit between the row. Rather than buy a narrow tractor, I was thinking about purchasing a pull behind flail mower that has an 18hp gas engine (Puluzzo). I have up to 1.5" limbs to chop up. Do you think this type of mower would work for cutting avocado tree limbs. Thank you.
Pull behind flail? Doesn't mount to a 3pt? 18 hp is low, it would depend on the size of the flail. True 1.5 inch material is going to give that a workout, but it really depends on the size flail/drum rotor you are trying to turn. My gut says you are a little underpowered.
@@TKCL No, it's not a 3pt flail mower. Here is a link to the site that shows the flail mower: www.iowafarmequipment.com/peruzzo-self-propelled-motofox-flail-mower-aerator.html
Thank you for responding.
I see now, completely different. I think 1.5 inch material might be a bit much for it. That's the max I would consider for my tractor flail. I see they offer several different blade options, the A option Y blades are probably your best bet for all around cutting. Those duck foot blades that they call hammers, are not true Hammers and are meant more for grass. I've ran a set of those on my flail before.
@@TKCL Thank you again for your assistance.
Great comparison and thank you for the info. Just one question if I may, why would you finish cut that much acreage and not do something with it to make money on or a living. Seems to me I would use that much area for grazing cattle or something.
That's absolutely what the pasture is planned for (cattle and horses). We were hit by a tornado last March, it destroyed our barn, camper (while I was in it 😳) and some other equipment. The money we had saved up for fencing and cattle was used to rebuild.
@@TKCL Sorry to here that, I hope everything is getting better for you now, you have put a lot of work into this homestead for sure. I will try to keep up and follow along with your channel.
Thank you
Aloha Kelley: My 13 acre ranch in Hawaii is grassy and weedy, but is also covered in lava rocks that vary in size from 1-6" diameter. They're everywhere. I've been wanting to mow the grass, and there are too many rocks to move. I'm considering purchase of a flail mower for my Deere 4310, but only if I could adjust the mower upward/downward on the fly as needed while I drive, so I don't hit rocks. Can you give me your opinion, or offer another solution?
Realistically you can only elevate my flail about 4 inches with the skid adjustments. I would assume lava rocks would wreak havac on each blade and bolt. Not being super easy to change or relatively cheap, I would stick with a medium duty rotary mower (2 blades VS 56). I would think with the risk of constant rock impacts I would want a medium to heavy duty gearbox. I would also spend the extra for a pto shaft with a slip clutch instead of a basic shear pin style. It will save you a tremendous amount of headache constantly replacing shear pins every time you hit a rock. I wish I had an option for you to remove the rock, but luckily we don't have much experience in Florida. Hope this helps!
You ever consider getting a few goats?
@@Joey-ve7ku The land is covered in feral mountain goats who can't keep up with the grass growth, so we know that doesn't work. The grasses are 3- ft tall. It's like the goats are not even there. So it looks like hand-clearing rocks the olde fashion way is the only way. Mahalo.
@@louismorejohn586 Oh... I would just plant it in trees.
@@TKCL could he not just run the flail mower hanging on the 3PL rather than riding on the skids, like a rotary mower?
Appreciate this video. My old six foot brush hog is nearing the end of its life, and have been thinking about getting a flail mower. Did you, by any chance, compare different brands of flails, or go with local availability (which is important for repairs and parts)?
If so, what is the price range for these things?
Thanks.
I did look in my area and to be honest there was only one flail I could afford. If you have a agri supply near you I strongly recommend the Caroni tm1900. A lot of great reviews online and A LOT less money than anything comparable. Agri supply stocks all parts for this mower as well. Here is the link to it with the price www.agrisupply.com/caroni-flail-mower/p/30837/
@@TKCL -much obliged, I will check out agrisupply. Keep up with the videos - yours is down to earth, and non-pretensious.
@@seabrookthemagnificent9580 thank you, glad I could help!
man that is a hell of a lot of grass to mow! Do you do anything with the land? seems like quite a lot of work to just be empty space...
We planted that pasture specifically for animals! We were planning on fencing and animals this year before the tornado hit. We shall see what we can do financially after we rebuild our barn.
The flail did a pretty good job considering you should have used hammer blades instead of Y. Y blades are meant for maintained grass, not clearing brush.
Y blades are a good middle ground blade. Maintained grass or fine cutting, use duck foot blades.
If I could ask you a question. I know your flail mower is about 73 inches, My tractor is about the same horsepower as yours. Do you think you could run a 96 inch or 88-inch wide flail without bogging down the tractor too much? Just trying to figure what width I should buy. Will use it for grass only. Thanks very much.
If you are running around 60hp like me then yes you could. Problem I seen was that most of the bigger flail mowers were heavy duty or extreme duty cutting capability. A lot had hammers instead of cutting blades and I can't see that being good for grass. As long as they have Y blades or scoops with a cutting edge I think you will be fine. My flail ran great behind my 44hp tractor and I don't even know it's behind my 66hp. I have also ran blades with a scoop design and the normal Y blades. Y blades are much easier on the tractor but don't quite cut as clean as the scoop/duck foot blades. Duck foot blades create more lift and do to the design requires more hp from what I noticed in my trial of them.
How fast can you go. Looking to buy one soon. Thanks
I mow around 7 mph for a rough field cut, 1-2 mph slower for a better cut.
You are using wrong type of blade for thick brush ,the y type is a fine cut ,for brush you need a hammer type blade , not sure what your saying about your other rotary mower ,your finishing mower is rotary ,are you talking about a trailed mower ?
Great demo between both mowers :-)
Rotary mower is the bush hog type. Two big heavy duty blades, it's the most common type in my opinion. Those Y blades are a good compromise in my opinion, cut grass ok and do well in moderate brush. I have scoop or duck foot blades as well I can put on. They are excellent for grass, but chip easily for brush. Hammers are a bit heavy duty for the type of cutting I do, and seem to cut grass the worse out of the three types.
I wold like to see how it would look if you did a checkerboard (cross-cut) .. that would remove the "corn rows". Will/does the Flail mower scalp the ground? That's a big fault of rotary or finish mowers that cannot prevent scarring ground (and killing the grass) that has not been rolled perfectly flat. Why not put wheels on the flail? Finally, I have horses (no cattle) and guard donkeys... sandy soil for horses, of course. Will the flail pull the grass out of the ground exposing the roots... (effectively killing the grass/making the horseys go hungry) or will it chop off the grass but leave the roots undisturbed? Lots of questions I realize but you do not appear to have animals of any kind grazing your land. Do you have any creeks or ponds to work around? Driveways? Show us a fence-line and how close you can get to the ground on one. Lots to think about but as I am sure you have found; the implement/mower salesmen seem to not have much - ANY, real world experience with these implements... they do know how to write a sales contract...
As for scalping, it's much better than a rotary cutter. It has an adjustable roller all the way across the back, make sure that has contact with the ground at your set cutting height. If you let your grass get extremely thick, some pulling of the roots can occur, but it's minor and my field is still thick and green. If you cut your grass more often, that's never been a problem. The flail has the ability to offset giving it a huge advantage over a rotary mower cutting close to fences, buildings ect.
I noticed that your roller is not adjusted.. why not lower the roller adjustment on the rear?
* After watching your videos I did purchase one of these flail mowers
I hope you enjoy it! I honestly have not paid attention to the roller being adjustable. I don't remember seeing that option, but I will check it out when I get home.
@@TKCL yes the roller has an adjustment on the back of it so take a look at that I just noticed it when I was setting mine up
Which mower cuts your 15acres the fastest? Just bought 14 acres and looking at a 40hp Kioti. Just not sure what type of mower. The flail sounds the most universal.
Flail is definitely the more universal mower. I can run both about the same speed. The finish mower cuts faster simply due to the fact that it's 1.5 ft wider. If you have some light brush clearing and grass cutting to cut, get the flail. If it's just grass and you are going to keep it up, get the finish mower.
@@TKCL how long does it take you to cut 15 acres??
Well I cut the yard area with my zero turn. It takes me about 3-4 hours to cut my pasture that's just under 10 acres. That's with some stops for drinks, moving cameras ect.
Nice video. Very informative. I am waiting on the arrival of my first flail mower from Titan Equipment. Those are great people to work with btw, this is the third item I have bought from them. I will Use this for a yard and about 7 acres of pasture that I use as a yard extension. I have a Rhino 6’ rotary mower and had thought I want a finish mower until watching TH-cam. Mine comes with hammer blades. It appears they cut grass just fine. Do you have any experience with that blade?
No experience with hammer blades, just duck foot and Y blades. From what I've read hammers are more for heavy cutting, doesn't mean they won't cut grass fine. Duck foot or scoop blades leave the best grass cut, and Y blades are a happy medium between rough cut and grass cutting in my experience. I have a large finish mower now, so I leave my flail as a backup grass cutter and mainly a brush/trail cutter. I've also ordered a few items from Titan and had a good experience.
The Kelley's Country Life I got my flail mower with hammer blades from Titan. I cut my backyard with it and the results were outstanding. I kinda eyeballed it and found that the flail will cut lower than my rotary mowers. It made a very fine cut of Bermuda, fescue and rye grasses. I next mowed a field I like to hit golf balls into. When I use my bush hog out there the grass is high enough to hide the balls. This mower, with hammers cut to yard height chewing up sticks and brush as well. Thanks for your video it helped me make the right decision!
Excellent, I'm glad to hear that you are enjoying it. Flails are underrated pieces of equipment.
I've had a Titan flail mower for about a month. I like it much better than my 6' rotary mower as it leaves no windrows and does a great job of mulching. I've only had one issue. In mowing my trails in the woods, a piece of brush snared the rod holding the chain curtain in front and pulled it loose. It then wrapped the rod around the drum making a lot of noise! I mistakenly reached under when I had everything shut down to unwrap it burning my fingers. Nevertheless, I soon got it out. Now it flings rocks. I'll replace the curtain with a rubber flap or new chain curtain soon. I figured the hammers would be damaged, but I couldn't see any harm done.
That's something I've never mentioned, but one thing I love about my caroni Flail Mower. The front curtain is quarter inch steel plates about 5 inches wide that hinge on a thick steel rod. I can't see how they would ever get torn off.
How’d you get you pasture so flat?
It literally took months of work. After we bought the property we cut that overgrown pasture down. I then disc the soil over and over for a couple of months burying and busting up all root clumps. After everything started rotting I drug around several semi tires over and over behind my tractor. Eventually I got it smooth enough that I planted my grass seed. The rest is history.
Who high of a cut can a flail cut?
I'd have to measure mine, but probably 5-6 inches.
Dang bro. I’d bail the fields and sell it. Good money laying there. X 3 cuts a year, Oh yea.
Not here, everyone makes hay. It's a cutbthroat business, I've already brought two farmers over and neither wanted to mess with it. Hay equipment us very expensive as well.
you need to turn those fields into hay fields at least then you get some money out of it lol
I purposely planted them for animals. Starting on fencing soon and then buying my animals
Mulch should build soil structure before animals or hay.
You just need better blades on your finish mower such as the Kavli Finsha or The Beast blades.
I have duck foot or scoop style blades that cut grass very well.
Dude if you slow down to sub warp speed the rotary cutting will work well,, you are just running way to freekin fast
Not at all the case, when I had a rotary cutter I ran in A range at 3.7 mph. It was rediculously slow, still worked the tractor harder and left wind rows. As stated several times in this video, I was cutting fast with these mowers because it's a pasture and a rough cut is all I am looking for until I get animals on it. When I cut our yard I cut a little slower, more often and the cut looks great.
can you not put hammer flails on that flail mower be better on thicker stuff
I'm not sure if you can, I believe you would want a beefier rotor and different spacing to accommodate the hammers. With that said, this flail takes care of anything I've asked it to do. If I were doing a lot of heavy brush cutting, I would get a medium or heavy duty rotary mower. Just my two cents
You're running way to fast is the reason they're not giving a good cut. If the grass is lite you can fly through it, but when its thick you need to slow down.
I stated that a couple of times in the video. What I was cutting was animal pasture, a quick rough cut was all that I was looking for.
Holycrap, that is a lot of open areas to just mow constantly. Complete waste of time and fuel. Why not grow hay on it?!
That's because we specifically planted this pasture for animals. It takes time to establish and once we get animals grazing on it I'm done mowing. In the meantime I have to keep it up or weeds and trees will take over. Hay is not worth much in our area, because there is too much competition. No one is going to bring all their equipment here just for a few Acres.
@@TKCL ahh ok. As long as u plan to use it. 15 acres is alot if someone already has the equipment. Heck i hay on only 10 acres. $5k gross every yr. However i live in il with lots of crazy horse people around
Round rolls here can be had for as cheap as 25 bucks when everyone is loaded up and competing with each other. Otherwise 35 is not uncommon, just not enough money in it for people to bring a lot of equipment over. I want me field to keep seeding and establishing for the animals.
You are go tooo fast with the flail mower..
what a waste of time mowing 15ac fot no reason
Great info. Thank you.
Thank you for watching