This WC3 strategy is never played, but totally broken at the same time - Mass Doctors - WC3 - Grubby

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  • Someone called for the doctors? Today we're claiming Troll supremacy as we're going for a fierce army of Troll headhunters and Witch Doctors!
    This WC3 strategy is never played, but totally broken at the same time - Mass Doctors (Game played on 28-April-2024)
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  • @Songfugel
    @Songfugel 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +79

    Wow, the fact that you are taking time to explain what is going on in the early game so well is so helpful 😊

  • @schnitzelpommes8411
    @schnitzelpommes8411 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +72

    "Wyverns are completly garbage and I will never make them again. Not even one"
    Made me chuckle 😂

  • @LogicalKip
    @LogicalKip 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

    Shops are such a scam.
    - Why yes, I do have very powerful items that could save our race from extinction, but I will only sell them at outrageous prices.
    - Ugh fine, where's your shop ?
    - I don't have one, you'll have to pay for that too

    • @HellecticMojo
      @HellecticMojo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      that's capitalism baybee!

    • @Kryptnyt
      @Kryptnyt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      *Enemy team destroys the shop first and leaves*
      "Those bastards seek to destroy our very way of life!"

    • @dark3031
      @dark3031 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Think of it like you pay for someone to help you acquire something you don't have. When you sell something, he's helping you to find a buyer.

    • @afelias
      @afelias 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      No, you're building a trading post. You didn't build the items. You built the trading post so people will come sell their items where you are.

  • @Niwona112
    @Niwona112 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    Orc should definitely have that red dragon as a unit.

    • @heybassss
      @heybassss 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They used to

  • @Milotus.
    @Milotus. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    I miss your philosophic Intro's for W3 Turns :D

  • @Kier1717
    @Kier1717 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Oh I didn’t realize the Orc unit tier list we’ve all been waiting for on GrubbyTalks is here summed up in a single sentence: “… they’re all tier D, it’s their heroes that are tier S.” 12:42

  • @Remco-rm2vs
    @Remco-rm2vs 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I used to play wc3 with my brother when we were kids. We would often do caterogies of units we were only allowed to build. Like only trolls for me and only orcs for him. Bedankt voor de fijne herinnering. Kan me nog herinneren dat je bij DwDD zat.

  • @matthewmckee07
    @matthewmckee07 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I saw that smirk after you clicked the 3 peons and you teched with exactly 0 wood left over on the second game. You wanted to say something about how good it feels to tech and hit an exact timing on a build order 😂 well played 👏

  • @PazCristo
    @PazCristo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Let the Trolling begin

  • @drumunism3781
    @drumunism3781 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You’re pretty good at the game, and even better at imitating the VOs!

  • @CarbonTaxLOL
    @CarbonTaxLOL 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Hey Grubby, have you seen that someone made a MOD for Warcraft 3 that lets you play GTA? The guy apparently has been trying to contact you and spent 5 years making it. Would be cool to give him a shoutout for his effort when you have time. Big Love!

  • @zyblor5891
    @zyblor5891 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Buff suggestion for Wyverns: allow the poison dmg on envenomed spears to kill target when health gets to 0. To avoid losing this benefit when a stronger poison would otherwise supercede, have it apply an additional debuff, "deadly poison" or whatever, that allows dmg received by poison to kill target.
    Pretty situational, leans into hit and run playstyle, and interesting from the newness. Probably not that impactful, but still encouraging their use a bit.

  • @fizzywighoid9990
    @fizzywighoid9990 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like that Grubby used his FS to harass the blademaster's base when it's usually the blademaster who does the harassing 😂

  • @ilevitatecs2
    @ilevitatecs2 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    that point that grubby made about casters being good against burrows and how to think in game is something that only very high level players can adapt to in any game. the casters damage against burrows is actually a win condition, yet it's overlooked because the focus will be on killing stasis/healing wards with dispel etc and to take a fight in which you can get raiders to back line

  • @xspikespiegel7869
    @xspikespiegel7869 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Grubby ur the best dude. I enjoy live and enjoy ur vids... that's rare. Appreciate u boss. Keep dominating.

  • @joelbratt3973
    @joelbratt3973 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Started 2 play again bcs of you. But damn, u make everything look so easy. A true legend

  • @subject1449
    @subject1449 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Grubby plans his windriders like i plan my drinks at a bar, just one wind rider i swear just one itll be fine

  • @kurzackd
    @kurzackd 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    7:45 -- lol, scummy creep Berserkers bribed to kill off G's shaman just as he was about to escape with his life !!! :O
    .

  • @mirakil7636
    @mirakil7636 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I guess the opponent should've eaten more apples!

  • @RedstonicKFC
    @RedstonicKFC 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m from OCE and your video output is the bestselling. Love your content

  • @tober420
    @tober420 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    love you grubby

  • @SwordOdOdin
    @SwordOdOdin หลายเดือนก่อน

    i know it might not be balanced, but it would be kinda cool if shadow hunter also profited from troll regeneration ^.^

  • @tiku8385
    @tiku8385 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Come on Grubby... it is "The Troll In"

  • @waelah5554
    @waelah5554 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The good stuff

  • @HighLanderPonyYT
    @HighLanderPonyYT 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Day 1 of never making Wind Riders."
    Fast forward to the recent Happy vs Lin (sp?) games where Wind Riders carried. Lol

  • @Azadng
    @Azadng 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tavern hero is op, he is making an instant hero

  • @alecvujic6029
    @alecvujic6029 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Necromancers using unholy frenzy on frostwyrms. And if you’re feeling spicy, take over blue cyclops with banshees or dark ranger to bloodlust the frostwyrms as well.

    • @kurzackd
      @kurzackd 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      he's done that before. Many times too.
      .

    • @youngboomerragevictim8857
      @youngboomerragevictim8857 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Undead is absurd in an FFA timeline. In the fact that you can have a chen raging frenzied alchemist whith the corruption orbit and frost armor used to just dive him into bases and kill whatever you click on so much fun

  • @aguyinavan6087
    @aguyinavan6087 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Since the game has been updated did they do things to stop maphack?

  • @game_jinx
    @game_jinx 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    coffee time cheers!

  • @SolusEmsu
    @SolusEmsu 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wonder what it would take to make the Orc's Wyvern Riders worth making? Would it be a reduction in gold/wood cost? maybe a food cost reduction? Or do they just need more stats? For a 4-pop flyer they sure do seem to just not have much stats.. compare to another 4 pop flyer, the Gryphon Rider, they have like 350hp less, that's a huge problem..

    • @ambion19
      @ambion19 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wind riders are E tier, ive always loved the unit's concept but it's simply peerless as bad units go. I don't think a single other unit in all wc3 can compare to the absolute bag of problems this bad boy brings to every single matchup.
      Cursed ever since they lost their names , truly. Twice the cost of a dryad and come with exclusive bonuses of upgrade locked poison and death by magic damage. Dies faster than Monsieur THE ENDS JUSTIFY THE MEANS. If a single unit anywhere deserves a complete rework, it's these sad sad flaps.

  • @fachrendy
    @fachrendy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So that's why they're called trolls

  • @ilevitatecs2
    @ilevitatecs2 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    on ST, instead of pushing the expo (wasting time) with your sh and wards, just creep the shop and then your merc...you have level 3 SH and then you can counter expo or defend the push. longer the game goes, better for you as you of course know.

  • @mirrir
    @mirrir 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Missed opportunity to have the thumbnail be "Troll in" smh

  • @notaddtry
    @notaddtry 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    0 sec after video drop,5 seen
    Grubbys magic?

  • @andreatombesi2458
    @andreatombesi2458 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just curious, is there something that NE struggle against?

  • @pausesmana5531
    @pausesmana5531 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Could you make a Top Best beautiful color per unit?
    You make a Rank S to D, but S = sky blue... A = Yellow... etc... and you put the units where you find them the most beautiful... like Spirit Wolf = Yellow... for me.

  • @drakonli
    @drakonli 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As an old-timer myself, who was way into dota, but was not good enough for wc3, I enjoy your content too much :D If you're up for it, make a video for absolute noobs with like a simple strategy to win most low tier games. preferably on NE xD

  • @purpleisthesneakiest
    @purpleisthesneakiest 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey, Grubby, I was wondering - why do you mass Witch Doctors for a magic damage composition instead of Shamans or Spirit Walkers?
    Shamans are only a tiny bit more expensive and do a tiny bit less damage, but have more HP and have better spells for your heroes (lightning shield on your TC, bloodlust). Is bloodlust just too expensive to warrant getting master training? Are stasis wards just that much better than purge/lightning shield/bloodlust?
    Walkers are a ton more expensive, but they have a crazy amount of health for a caster, do way more damage at the same attack rate, and all of their spells are great for mass cows. I can get the Shaman argument for missing out on damage, but why no Walkers?

  • @Xarick
    @Xarick 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Now, can you solo Shadow Hunter? Also the irony of the Orc invaders having a bad army. :D

  • @Akario3
    @Akario3 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Troll-in

  • @DobroSC2
    @DobroSC2 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Witchdoctors are better then Wind Rider confirmed!

  • @dougfax
    @dougfax 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This video aged like a fine milk
    YT viewers will see why

  • @eduardosimonsendelima3329
    @eduardosimonsendelima3329 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    GG

  • @GraveUypo
    @GraveUypo หลายเดือนก่อน

    damn that first game was a complete wash. he had EVERYTHING over you. better economy, more army, more levels...

  • @Psihodelia
    @Psihodelia 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent toys. Oooohh. Yes-su

  • @gumhoy5054
    @gumhoy5054 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    THIS LAND, BE _TROLL_ LAND NOW

    • @OmnipotentGoggles
      @OmnipotentGoggles 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It was always troll land! We were here first.

  • @turdferguson4447
    @turdferguson4447 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Go again but Shadow hunter Alchemist heroes only for FULL TROLL army. But I guess alchemist is a Goblin : /

  • @pelmefkaloltop6635
    @pelmefkaloltop6635 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    and where is game in tm vs this ne, where Grubby took FS and lost in 2 minutes without a chance?

  • @nillk2168
    @nillk2168 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tier D? Am i miss orcs tier list?

  • @The666opal111
    @The666opal111 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Should just mass grunts. KEKW

  • @LuhLuhLawrence
    @LuhLuhLawrence 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    23:12

  • @SnowHarfang
    @SnowHarfang 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Did you always do those famous and hilarious impressions randomly, even back in 2008 ?
    2:51

  • @MWcrazyhorse
    @MWcrazyhorse 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If Tauren and Wyvern are the worst orc units MAYBE they become good if you make them BOTH.
    Fast T2 army Wyvern + Tauren.
    With spirit link and all that free extra Tauen HP it is quite durable.

  • @rinri-ch
    @rinri-ch 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Balance changes:
    - make sentry wards visible
    - instead of Stasis Trap Ward, witch doctor has Decoy ability that essentially creates an illusion of a unit, but when it gets killed, enemy units in a small area will be stunned for a couple of seconds
    what do you think?

  • @mrsommer84
    @mrsommer84 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    8:11 Why do you waste 90 mana on 3 sperentz for that camp? Isn't it better to hold on to the mana? Snakeslvl1 are not that good anyhow.
    10:19 "wyvern are completely garbage. I'll never make them again." I heard that sentence before. :-)
    11:29 "I won't make any bad unit - like windrider, tauren." - How about a mass gryphon play? I like gryphon :-) - almost twice hp as wyvern, and high nominal damage (especially when upgraded). plus they cost only 4 food. build mass gryphons and put your heroes in zeppelin.
    21:11 "basetrading. and I have fortified." yeah, hs has siege, you have magic attack. you have spikes, he doesn't.
    22:18 magic attack vs grunts and etheral walker

  • @wicklow4905
    @wicklow4905 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I use Wyverns all the time in bigger numbers and for me it's just fine.
    Costs a lot but it's quite effective

    • @Opi395
      @Opi395 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      For being a tier 2 unit with their cost, they are too easily countered to be worth it. You effectively have to all in them which risks you being completely countered if you don’t win right away.

  • @albatros1418
    @albatros1418 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    All orc units are tier D really ??? :/

  • @HyperlordB
    @HyperlordB 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Other orc player not eating any apples, SMH.

  • @Sage_le_Ace
    @Sage_le_Ace 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Day 1 of never making wind riders again or until they get a buff

  • @kurzackd
    @kurzackd 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    10:34 -- *WRONG.*
    *UNDEAD* is the _slowest-expanding_ race.
    They only have a quick expansion strategy *in the **_MIRROR_** matchup* , so that doesn't really count. :P
    .

  • @kurzackd
    @kurzackd 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    09:13 - G: *"He has expo and he's **_STILL_** all-inning... Interesting... Some people just want it all..."*
    Omg... How *DELUSIONAL* can one be...
    Mate... What TGW was doing was *КlLLlNG YOU.* ... It was a timing attack that was meant to end you right then and there.
    *Even IF* TGW _had LOST_ that fight (impossible), the game would have *STILL* continued to be in his favor, due to the presence of his expansion. Therefore, that's *NOT even an **_"ALL-IN"_* ... -_-
    .

    • @FiikusMaximus
      @FiikusMaximus 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dude chill. Are you like a TGW fan or something?

  • @spectralcoffee5177
    @spectralcoffee5177 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why do you click so much, like adhd clicking wildly?