Top 10 Major Lore Characters Who Are Just Random Dungeon Bosses in World of Warcraft

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  • @Slowbb
    @Slowbb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1164

    Top 10 Lilian Voss appearances on one of Hiru's lists

    • @sebastianpinoalipaz5935
      @sebastianpinoalipaz5935 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      He should make that one for an April's Fools video

    • @Froggeh92
      @Froggeh92 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      mega Lillian Voss fanboy. shes pretty cool to be fair

    • @ns0557212
      @ns0557212 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That actually needs to be a top 25 list at least.

    • @joshuabrunet4096
      @joshuabrunet4096 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      How Lillian Voss stole hiras soul top vid

    • @yserareborn
      @yserareborn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lilian Voss is the character everyone likes after they get sick of Sylvanas overexposure.

  • @jsc1jake512
    @jsc1jake512 4 ปีที่แล้ว +562

    Murmur honestly needs some more lore, pretty much all it's lore is "essence of sound, destroy worlds with a single sigh and oh yeah he also destroyed Auchindoun"

    • @when7573
      @when7573 4 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      murmurs absolutely cool as shit and if we end up getting a space or void expansion i still hold some hope that he'll be important

    • @selalewow
      @selalewow 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      I like the tiny Murmur you can get in WoD.

    • @McStanky11
      @McStanky11 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      That simple mechanic where you run out of the circle used to give me so much anxiety haha. Murmur has a special place in my heart.

    • @acorr14
      @acorr14 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Murmur was such a cool boss. It was something we had never seen before, and it was said to be insanely powerful. Something that can destroy worlds with the power of sound? Awesome.

    • @dylanbrewer8605
      @dylanbrewer8605 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The music that plays during his fight is awesome. Or maybe it was just one of the soundtracks from that dungeon that played. I could never find that particular track no though.

  • @dfcd1432
    @dfcd1432 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Since Loken was the Prime Designate (leader) of the Titan Keepers, the killing of him in Halls of Lightning is actually the event that signaled Algalon the Observer to come to Azeroth to investigate what was going on and discover all of the Old God corruption. Which is probably one of the biggest lore events in all of Warcraft since Algalon nearly destroyed the entire planet as we know it.

  • @Missix12
    @Missix12 4 ปีที่แล้ว +482

    *Hiru making video about characters*
    How can I put Lilian Voss into the list...

    • @laurenford3951
      @laurenford3951 4 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      Hiru making some random videos in the future:
      "How can I fit both Lilian Voss AND Gunther Arcanus into as many videos as I can?"

    • @slappy420usa
      @slappy420usa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hiru has a fanboy boner for Gunther Arcanus, Im surprised he didnt end up on the list somehow lol

  • @MrGoesBoom
    @MrGoesBoom 4 ปีที่แล้ว +182

    I still miss the fact that Blizz used to have a constantly updating chart of the top ten critters killing people in Azeroth.. wish they'd bring it back

    • @benwillis5840
      @benwillis5840 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I've never been killed by a critter.

    • @oTrevdawgo
      @oTrevdawgo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Asmongold would just get his followers to continuously die to something and cheat the list.

    • @attoboi9763
      @attoboi9763 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Ben Willis you’ve never died leveling ever? Impressive, he meant npcs, and the defias in west fall always lead the charts

    • @mistmist4303
      @mistmist4303 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Atto boi WoW is kind of easy though now, you can pull like ten NPCs with three million health each and survive, or maybe I am just playing an OP kit xD.

    • @PinkieUwU
      @PinkieUwU 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Atto boi the freaking Murlocs use to get me all the time

  • @moch.farisdzulfiqar6123
    @moch.farisdzulfiqar6123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +204

    Loken, a titan keeper that also in command of old god minions, can't get to Archaedus.
    Random ragtag adventurer not only break into his facility but killed Archaedus.
    Loken, "Ah, finally someone doing my job."
    Random adventurer, "You're the next."

    • @robertlupa8273
      @robertlupa8273 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You are the next.
      Gay

    • @RoboBongoCuckooCop
      @RoboBongoCuckooCop 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      wasn't it Dwarves who wanted us to go in there to search for treasure? maybe an agent of Loken let slip to them that there was treasure there knowing that they would go loot and pillage the place

    • @moch.farisdzulfiqar6123
      @moch.farisdzulfiqar6123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@RoboBongoCuckooCop Bran Bronzebeard is an archeologist character, he was doing research on Ulduar and knowing that those titan facility didn't containt a treasure but was a prison for the old god, then Loken attacked him for trespassing.

    • @moch.farisdzulfiqar6123
      @moch.farisdzulfiqar6123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@RoboBongoCuckooCop Since he was aware Yogg Saron that has awaken, he propose to Rhonin and faction leader to focus our attention to Ulduar. Probably since most titan keeper there wasn't doing their job because of Loken.

    • @RoboBongoCuckooCop
      @RoboBongoCuckooCop 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@moch.farisdzulfiqar6123 what does that have to do with Uldaman and Archaedus? I am talking about the reasoning behind entering Uldaman. maybe Loken thought adventurers could succeed where he couldn't and so gently nudged the dwarves to that location via some sort of manipulation

  • @ravnemagne9598
    @ravnemagne9598 4 ปีที่แล้ว +252

    Kael'Thas: The two times you killed me were just setbacks

    • @ixpu4246
      @ixpu4246 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Maybe three if we are lucky with the new expansion.

    • @SamuelPearlman
      @SamuelPearlman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      *merely setbacks.

    • @m.m.5448
      @m.m.5448 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      More like Kael'Thas "Those two times you killed me were setbacks" Sunstrider. Im half expecting him to show up in a later expansion with some "But it was really Me! DIO all along!" Shit

    • @sofieselene
      @sofieselene 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This time we're saving him! Kind of.

    • @Henlad
      @Henlad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      castle natharia: the first three times you killed me were just setbacks

  • @Zagreus717
    @Zagreus717 4 ปีที่แล้ว +114

    Murmur also shows up as an echo in Warlords of Draenor, where the Shadow Council is trying to summon him.. until you stumble upon the summoners and kill them, getting a toy and saving a good portion of Terokkar Forest (Bone Wastes in Outland) without even noticing.

  • @ntabiblaze
    @ntabiblaze 4 ปีที่แล้ว +217

    The only way I can see Blizz fixing the Murozond plot is by making him a raid boss somewhere down the line and the players kicking his arse so much he runs back to that hourglass to heal, only for him to die like in the endtime dungeon. Like the reason why he's so weak was because Future players beat him up to near death

    • @illiji915
      @illiji915 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Ooooo, nice call. That's a good idea for being able to use him again without messing up his actual "death"

    • @ramazantekin4144
      @ramazantekin4144 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      blizzard should hire you as a writer for their team. you honestly would be the team leader in a week.

    • @rkjj.
      @rkjj. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@ramazantekin4144 they don't have the funds for that. It's just a small indie company

    • @lukehayes7013
      @lukehayes7013 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rkjj. nice

    • @gdrad
      @gdrad 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      They can actually kill a Murozond. If it's a dead end time line being pruned.

  • @michixlol
    @michixlol 4 ปีที่แล้ว +143

    What is very interesting about Kael is, if you speak german, the last sentence, where kael'thas screams out that the world shall burn, is so angry in english, but in the german version, he says it with much more tragedy and his last scream doesn't seem purely out of anger like the english version, but also out of desperation. And as dumb as it sounds, the german voice actor of Kael'thas is the reason, if I like to play with german sounds. This last sentence after you kill him in Magisters' Terrace is so much better and deeper in german than it is in English IMO.

    • @tritebs1673
      @tritebs1673 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      As it should be Kael'thas is a tragic character

    • @Hummabubba
      @Hummabubba 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Huh interesting. Noted.

  • @Corrupted
    @Corrupted 4 ปีที่แล้ว +152

    1:20
    *here we go again*

  • @stepa7692
    @stepa7692 4 ปีที่แล้ว +443

    I think that EVERYONE watching this channel knows who Lilian Voss is...or Gunther Arcanus :D

    • @sofamousmike2316
      @sofamousmike2316 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Stepa you already know 👍🏾

    • @vaedathlive1896
      @vaedathlive1896 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      its like Lilian voss is the best thing since sliced bread

    • @nemanjamarkovic2444
      @nemanjamarkovic2444 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yep cooo

    • @hirumaredx
      @hirumaredx  4 ปีที่แล้ว +76

      Spoilers, shes gonna be in another video soon...

    • @josejuanandrade4439
      @josejuanandrade4439 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Vaedath, actualy, she is number 2, because number 1 is GUN - THER, AR - CA - NUS

  • @HeyPachuco
    @HeyPachuco 4 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    Fun fact: While Hogger is typically saved as the last encounter for players. he is technically not the last boss, nor was he a focus in the stockade. but rather Randolph Moloch who was responsible for the Prison Revolt.

  • @memesupreme5502
    @memesupreme5502 4 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    A villains corner on the infinite dragonflight and their shenanigans would be great

  • @giefvideo
    @giefvideo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +202

    Kargath Bladefist in Shattered Halls. Original timeline. Badass warlord. Dungeon boss.

    • @stylaaaniki
      @stylaaaniki 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haven't watched the video yet. But he was the first one that came to my mind

    • @davidferencik9548
      @davidferencik9548 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Many badasses/important lore characters/powerful beings just died in TBC either in Dungeon or in Quest. Heres the ones I can think of now: Mogor the ogre, Kargath, Tagar Spinebreaker who isnt even in Q or Dungeon just roams around in Hellfire peninsula, God damn Dimensius that made ethereals ethereals, Murmur and probably more . TBC was weird.

    • @josejuanandrade4439
      @josejuanandrade4439 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      David Ferencik: SOOOOOOCRETHAAAAAAAAR!

    • @Eucep
      @Eucep 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Doesn't help that his extra corrupted form barely feels like it is Kargath.

    • @TheJohn1w
      @TheJohn1w 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wasn't he the warchief too in the original time line? At least of the Fel Horde

  • @fitzelaus6914
    @fitzelaus6914 4 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Some more major lore characters who are dungeon bosses:
    Edwin VanCleef (Deadmines)
    Archmage Arugal (Shadowfang Keep)
    Warchief Rend Blackhand (Blackrock Spire)
    Emperor Dagran Thaurissan (Blackrock Depths)
    Baron Rivendare (Stratholme)
    Balnazzar (Stratholme)
    Scarlet Commander Mograine (Scarlet Monastery)
    Charlga Razorflank (Razorfen Kraul)
    Gahz'rilla (Zul'Farrak)
    Princess Theradras (Maraudon)
    Prince Tortheldrin (Dire Maul)
    Warchief Kargath Bladefist (Shattered Halls)
    Exarch Maladaar (Auchenai Crypts)
    Keristrasza (The Nexus)
    King Ymiron (Utgarde Pinnacle, Maw of Souls)
    Mal'Ganis (Culling of Stratholme)
    Falric (Halls of Reflection)
    Marwyn (Halls of Reflection)
    Ozumat (Throne of the Tides)
    Jin'do the Godbreaker (Zul'Gurub)
    Peroth'arn (Well of Eternity)
    Mannoroth (Well of Eternity)
    Varo'then (Well of Eternity)
    Archbishop Benedictus (Hour of Twilight)
    Taran Zhu (Shado-Pan Monastery)
    Teron'gor (Auchindoun)
    Cordana Felsong (Vault of the Wardens)
    Kur'talos Ravencrest (Black Rook Hold)
    Mephistroth (Cathedral of Eternal Night)
    Gorak Tul (Waycrest Manor)
    King Dazar (Kings' Rest)
    Mogul Razdunk (Motherlode)
    Honorable mentions:
    Escape from Arthas (Halls of Reflection)
    Queen Azshara (Well of Eternity)
    In both of these encounters we don't actually fight against them, but against their minions.

    • @wrath2501
      @wrath2501 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Don't forget about:
      Jaina Proudmore
      Tyrande
      Bane Bloodhoof
      Sylvanas.

    • @asmosmeden
      @asmosmeden 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Baron Rivendare was later one of the new (first reiteration of them) in 4 horsemen in the new Nax. He got the best treatment of all of them imo.

    • @Palcii
      @Palcii 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Don't forget Archaedas, who built most of the titan facilities on Azeroth.

    • @fitzelaus6914
      @fitzelaus6914 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wrath2501 Yeah, I wasn't quite sure about them, because in the encounters in Endtime we just fight the echos of them.

    • @fitzelaus6914
      @fitzelaus6914 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@asmosmeden Teron'gor also got used later again in the Hellfire Citadel, as well as Mannoroth and Kargarth in Highmaul. Just to name some more dungeon bosses who later became raidbosses as well ^^
      Teron'gor also was a raidboss in Black Temple in form of the first Death Knight Teron Gorefiend.

  • @Klaital1
    @Klaital1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    King Ymiron in Utgarde Pinnacle was also kind of major character to be just a dungeon boss (and I believe Utgarde Pinnacle was originally meant to be a raid but they ran out of time or something). Not to forget Mal'ganis, who was both a dungeon boss, AND a random quest mob in wtlk.

    • @hirumaredx
      @hirumaredx  4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      I kind of left out infinite dragonflight dungeons (except their boss) since the whole point of those dungeons is to interact with heavily important lore characters. Its not really the same.

    • @abdulsadek8911
      @abdulsadek8911 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Also, Ymiron comes back again as a dungeon boss in Legion in Maw of Souls

  • @MarekPar743
    @MarekPar743 4 ปีที่แล้ว +116

    Cant wait for Gunther Arcanus to be just a random end of an expansion raid boss.

    • @waawaaaa
      @waawaaaa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Was weird to make him such a powerful character and just have him only walk around an island and in cata take his quests away.

  • @eier3252
    @eier3252 4 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    Kael'thas 2007: Tempest Keep was merely a setback!
    Kael'thas 2021: Sunwell was merely a setback!

    • @davecullins1606
      @davecullins1606 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      As long as he keeps fighting, any loss he has will always just be a setback on his road to eventual victory.

    • @eroslampitella2629
      @eroslampitella2629 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Kael'thas in 2045 : shadowlands were merely a setback

  • @RevolucionCulinaria
    @RevolucionCulinaria 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love these videos. Quick introduction to them; proper lore explanation; no ads. Keep it up!

  • @maxwellmoe1301
    @maxwellmoe1301 4 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    Kargath Bladefist: “Am I a joke to you?!”
    Dude has, like, 3 locations named after him(4 if you count both towns in the Badlands), is primarily responsible for the fall of the Arrakoan civilization, was the only non-warlock member of the Shadow Council, one of the original orcish chieftains on Draenor, and fondly remembered hero of the Horde according to Nazgrel. How the hell is he not even an honorable mention?!

    • @maxwellmoe1301
      @maxwellmoe1301 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Carver MU Kargath is the final boss of the Shattered Halls dungeon.

    • @josejuanandrade4439
      @josejuanandrade4439 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Carver, that was alternate universe Kargath, aka Not-our-Kargath :)

  • @perseverance6994
    @perseverance6994 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I think dimensius should have a spot here
    Although he wasn't in a dungeon and a quest instead,he destroyed a freaking planet and made ethereals...ethereals

    • @hirumaredx
      @hirumaredx  4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Hes in my list of major characters who are killed in quests. Its linked at the end of this video in the end card if you want to check it out.

  • @gaurok
    @gaurok 4 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    No Balnazzar? Strange: he was quite a huge player in The Frozen Throne Undead Campaign.

    • @AhsimNreiziev
      @AhsimNreiziev 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That was the first one I thought of too.

    • @JamJestKesh
      @JamJestKesh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      there propably is enough of those for a few '10 more ' lists

    • @emilsvartengren8203
      @emilsvartengren8203 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      and mal ganis

    • @christianduenas9200
      @christianduenas9200 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Balnazzar actually got a decent role in WOW though

    • @paulchapman8023
      @paulchapman8023 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Myst0gun really? In Vanilla, we didn’t have any idea that Varimathras hadn’t actually killed Balnazzar until about a minute before we killed him.

  • @prophet_3692
    @prophet_3692 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    To be fair, Archaedas WAS a rather challenging boss in Vanilla. Revisited in classic, groups could easily wipe on him if he was still red-level for them or orange-level (Meaning their hits would miss alot more). The dude became trivial later on with nerfing, but originally he was a decent challenge. Plus compare it with the fact Uldaman was a massive dungeon of winding tunnels, locked doors (the scepter), I'd consider the dungeon overall to be a mini raid.

  • @mulcheraska
    @mulcheraska 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Yknow that Ner'zhul guy has a pretty good resume, hope he gets a job in a place where he can really show his skills!

    • @ixpu4246
      @ixpu4246 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Afraid his career led to DEAD end. Taking to many LI-CH-kings made him a bit cold hearted. All the spirit drained out of him after Arthas took over, too.

  • @ValensBellator
    @ValensBellator 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Ner’zhul was one of the biggest missed opportunities in WoD. He was such an interesting and complex character that was like the old horde’s Arthas, being tricked and deceived down a dark path by Gul’dan and Kil’jaeden.
    That could have been such an interesting story as I can easily see a scenario where he takes a completely different path, fighting to keep Orcs free of the legion’s corruption if he’d been given more information early in his ride. How they managed to ignore a character of that importance I will never know.

    • @kucylja
      @kucylja 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      basically, the whole WoD was the expansion of missed opportunities

  • @Eucep
    @Eucep 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Also one thing I find sad about Anub'arak is that when he died as a dungeon boss he stated he was finally free. But as he died as a raid boss, he seemed to be under full control.

  • @meoravec
    @meoravec 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Definitely should've added Edwin VanCleef in there somewhere. Man was the leader of the Stonemasons who rebuilt Stormwind after the second war, led the Defias Brotherhood after the nobles wouldn't pay them for the work they put in, and more lore important than Hogger I'd say, granted Hogger is probably more dangerous than VanCleef.

    • @SFfan112
      @SFfan112 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Edwin makes the top 10 Communists in WoW list.
      Edit: Comrade Edwin

    • @fincy645
      @fincy645 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@SFfan112 how is he a communist? He made an exchange of labor and construction for monetary value

    • @SFfan112
      @SFfan112 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fincy645 He founded the Defias Brotherhood to redestribute the wealth of the rich!
      definitly makes him a good guy.

    • @fincy645
      @fincy645 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@SFfan112 I mean... He's not really redistributing wealth as much as he is taking back what was rightfully his, and compensating his followers that help him achieve his task.. At the end of the day it's for his own interests, and he's only compensating his minions because he has too, not because he believes they should be payed

    • @kylemiller1574
      @kylemiller1574 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      To redistribute the wealth of the failing government, you mean. @@SFfan112

  • @naironluiz8126
    @naironluiz8126 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Everytime I think how they treated Kael'thas in TBC ima like "LOOK HOW THEY MASSACRATED MY BOY"

    • @Sanjiluv
      @Sanjiluv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      kael thas sucked.
      Actually all the blood elves suck. It's kinda their thing.
      Filthy addicts.

  • @guifdcanalli
    @guifdcanalli 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    If you are sad with those characters, remember that Dimension The All Devourer, LITERALLY A VOID LORD, was a n NPC that you could fight on Manaforge Ultris, a normal zone not even a Dungeon

  • @Nobleshield
    @Nobleshield 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I could have sworn that at the conclusion of End Times Nozdormu says this is just one potential timeline and not *the* canon timeline with Murozond.

    • @Jaridavin
      @Jaridavin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Checking the quotes, he says his future self will not cause any more harm, but eventually he'll fall to madness and this cycle will repeat, just like it just did.
      Then again Murozond could just go to the same time that he dies. At least, I assume...

    • @kyubeycoobie3568
      @kyubeycoobie3568 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jaridavin Yeah if Nozodorumu still exists I guess Muzorond does too

    • @sachadossantos7972
      @sachadossantos7972 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      the things is that aspect Don't have their power anymore so I think that he wouldn't be a threat anyway (they used all their power in DS so they are near equal to a normal dragon, they are still stronger but not as OP as they were)

    • @borkozdravkovic4746
      @borkozdravkovic4746 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That would mean blizzard made a big plot hole in nozdormus story. If hes is not an aspect anymore he cant become that powerfull in the future when he goes mad which means thet either the final boss is from alternate universe or nozdormu is still an aspect

    • @C4Hertz
      @C4Hertz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@borkozdravkovic4746 Norzdormu broke the timeline back in Cata by infusing the demon soul thereby nerfing Murozond? Kairoz did nothing wrong! (other than cause WoD)

  • @paulchapman8023
    @paulchapman8023 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    They can make Murozond a future raid boss; they just can’t kill him in that fight.
    In fact, I’m pretty sure that when Nozdormu becomes Murozond, Blizzard will find some way to make that into a raid fight.

    • @PeteTemplar101
      @PeteTemplar101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That had better be a plot in Dragonflight

  • @depressedonion5610
    @depressedonion5610 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Make Murmur happen blizzard. I would like to see more on him. Never heard of him since tbc and would like to know more.

  • @Nemmy72
    @Nemmy72 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "Murmur, Destroyer of Worlds."
    "Some of You may not know who Murmur is."

  • @wrath2501
    @wrath2501 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    What about Dimensius the All-Devouring? A literal void lord who eats planets.

  • @Dontknowme81
    @Dontknowme81 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man I love these videos, I keep finding new ones, that are older!

  • @michixlol
    @michixlol 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    i really was confused when you said, he is the final boss in the stormwind stockades. i played so much classic, i even forgot about the retail world.

  • @Roof5tone
    @Roof5tone 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I do think it is a bit odd to think of them as "just" dungeon bosses. Some dungeons come as the climax to big-ass storylines. Ner'zhul was built up for a whole bloody zone for example. The fact that we are five people instead of twenty five doesn't mean the dungeon is lesser, surely?

    • @MaMastoast
      @MaMastoast 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's hard to really nail down the importance of dungeon bosses since dungeons in vanilla were mostly just presented smaller side adventures where as some later dungeons have a lot more weight behind em.. That said, being 5 people does speak to the power of the character I'd say (or lack there of).
      Anub'arak for example was basically Arthas' third in command and deserved his own raid from the beginning... being a dungeon boss and later a shoe in raid boss did not do him justice.

    • @TheSaival
      @TheSaival 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@MaMastoast the fact that anub'arak wasnt in ICC just boggles me to this day. It would make the most sense.

  • @mmilkrat
    @mmilkrat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    “I wonder what inspired him to make this video?” “Number 9 is Lilian Voss.” “Oh, got it.”

  • @rodmusic3787
    @rodmusic3787 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Holy you said whaaaat? Lilian Voss is now the leader of the forsaken? Omg thats so GREAT I LOVE IT!

  • @mskain4896
    @mskain4896 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is one of the best top 10s I've ever seen in the quality of reasoning of the order. Top 10s are always subjective, but even allowing that many don't follow the rules they make for themselves, use fuzzy logic and otherwise appear naturally flawed, but this list appears quite sound and logical in its progression up the top ten for how 'lol, what?' each boss appearance in a dungeon is. The only one I could reasonably argue against is Murmur, who like Archaedas was simply slapped-together lore for the dungeon itself, rather than a being of major lore outside the universe who was given a disappointing dungeon appearance. In addition, he is actually by far the most powerful dungeon boss of BC, considering you fight him at a fraction of his 'Max' HP when you arrive and he still has end-boss current HP, so he was at least not treated like a run-of-the-mill dungeon boss. I'd probably exchange his place for another BC dungeon boss, WARCHIEF Kargath Bladefist, who despite being a pre-WoW hero Orc figure was simply a dungeon boss. But even if I don't fully agree, I concede the subjective logic of Murmur--a nigh-omnipotent entity shoehorned into simple dungeon lore and boss status.
    I'd like to see a much tougher top ten video: Top Ten Raid Bosses Disrespected by Ever-Leveling Content

  • @romanroyenthusiast
    @romanroyenthusiast 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lol people are joking about how many of your vids Lilian Voss is in, but she's my favourite npc so I'm loving it

  • @nathanclarke6694
    @nathanclarke6694 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Edwin Van Cleef was bringing Stormwind to it's knees. (And was also one of the first indications of Onyxia meddling with politics).

  • @MrVolreg
    @MrVolreg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    and now i want to fight murmur on his full form >.> (i didnt knew anything lorewise about him and tbh i had forgotten him after tbc)

    • @Arkios64
      @Arkios64 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Also, I wonder if they are going to change his name if we ever actually encounter the real thing. Since, you know, the form we defeat is only a 'Murmur', as in, not even as loud as a spoken word, barely above a whisper.

    • @flamingchickin
      @flamingchickin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      even though he makes that really terrifying scream noise

    • @josejuanandrade4439
      @josejuanandrade4439 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Zigrifid theres literaly a book, right before his room, that you have to READ for a quest, that says everything we know about him! IS LITERALY THERE! Is a big red book floating in front of you! HOW CAN YOU MISS IT!
      lol

    • @adasdasdaasadasda7543
      @adasdasdaasadasda7543 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You want to fight him in his full form? What part of "so powerful he destroys planets with a sigh" you did not understand?

    • @MrVolreg
      @MrVolreg 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@adasdasdaasadasda7543 HE IS HUGE ! HUGE GUTS! RIP AND TEAR

  • @bigtiredpotato
    @bigtiredpotato 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Murozond died in that dungeon BUT because we changed the timeline, that means that Nozdormu's fate has changed as well. He will always become Murozond but now there is a different reason because the Hour of Twilight was prevented. Murozond can absolutely come back as a boss without messing up the canon of that dungeon.

    • @DaKdawg
      @DaKdawg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Gaaaah, TIME LINES! This is why we don't mess with Timelines...ooof, my brain.

  • @greenpeppersalad
    @greenpeppersalad 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Surprised, that there were no Emperor Thaurissan on the list!

    • @adasdasdaasadasda7543
      @adasdasdaasadasda7543 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      List is about important characters that weren't given proper respect, Thaurissan got more than he deserved.

    • @illiji915
      @illiji915 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      probably because BRD is more than just a dungeon and Thaurissan isn't really powerful enough to warrant being anything more than he was. Can say that about a lot of the characters people have mentioned in the comments. There's only a few I would agree have merit to be in the top 10.

    • @Immagonko
      @Immagonko 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@illiji915 yeah but have freaking Lilian here lmao

    • @DragonmasterCire
      @DragonmasterCire 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He was the first Mega-Dungeon end boss before Mega Dungeons were a thing. The entire dungeon acted like a minor raid

  • @Aernath
    @Aernath 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Again, a very nice lore video, thanks! ^^

  • @NeoWishblade
    @NeoWishblade 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The joy of hearing "the Outlands"...! 👌

  • @nightquest52
    @nightquest52 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I remember how Archeadas was so unbelievably difficult boss in Vanilla.

    • @mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmatt
      @mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmatt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Basically either come correct with a full group on comms or get out

    • @Ravenousjoe
      @Ravenousjoe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, he is definitely a group check. Playing through classic, that was the first boss to give me a tough time as a prot Pally. Having to deal with group mates that wouldn't aggro the big adds and bring to me, but instead run around like chickens with their heads cut off. Healer would end up with aggro, stand there self healing then die. Was rough without exploits.

    • @boboallin
      @boboallin 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Ravenousjoe thats weird hey havent found a single dungeon in classic to be hard so long as the tank and dps are appropriate lvl you probably playing w some spastics

    • @Ravenousjoe
      @Ravenousjoe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@boboallin no, just people that didn't play the original. He is hard in comparison to other bosses before him where you don't need to know any mechanics of the fight.

  • @jakobcooks696
    @jakobcooks696 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Top 10 battle pets that should be raid bosses.

  • @Nkzjr
    @Nkzjr 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Missing Mal'Ganis from Culling of Stratholme here... i mean...the whole WC3/Frozen Throne lore is happening because of him :D
    But great vid, man!

  • @chrisbrooke5854
    @chrisbrooke5854 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    All these years I never realised Murozond was an anagram of Nozdormu...

    • @illiji915
      @illiji915 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I paid so little attention in Cata during Dragon Soul that I thought Murozond was Nozdormu backwards for the longest time...

  • @usurperx7111
    @usurperx7111 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Watching your videos is like watching a Lilian Voss Tribute channel.

  • @raver377
    @raver377 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    they could make murozond a raid boss, they just have to make sure we dont kill him thats basicaly all

    • @hirumaredx
      @hirumaredx  4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Good point

    • @Skizzer137
      @Skizzer137 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@hirumaredx In the dungeon End Time, wasn't Deathwing dead on Wyrmcrest temple? That didnt happen in our time, we stopped it. So couldnt that mean that now Murozond is saved because that timeline was altered? Therefore potentially raid boss in the future! Correct me if I am wrong :O

    • @raver377
      @raver377 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Skizzer137 murozond exists outside of time itself so the circumstances like "where" or "when" etc dont matter

    • @Skizzer137
      @Skizzer137 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@raver377 Yeah I get your point makes sense, it was just something that popped in my mind for a second whilst watching the video. :)
      Just a thought though hypothetically speaking, what if he wasn't outside time itself? More so he is connected with all his other existences through time and space through his gifted power. That way you could only kill him in what would be our (true) timeline to be canonically dead (except his past versions of course) because the alternate versions would be erased or ignored by our true timelines events that make it different. Hope that made sense, did in my head ...
      OR far fetched theory! Nozdormu's true End Time event was nothing more than an old god hallucination. Early seeds that could later be the cause of his conversion into Morozond? Therefore that End Time possibility was nothing more than an old god vision? We know the void can see infinite possibilities but cant always tell which is the true future (something like that). Corruption could of taken longer as he wasnt as susceptible to old god corruption as Deathwing was due to his connection with Azeroth.
      Im no lore guru so someone debunk this so I can learn, just a thought ^^

    • @josejuanandrade4439
      @josejuanandrade4439 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Murozond exists outside of time itself so the circumstances like "where" or "when" etc dont matter... only the "how hard you punch him till he dies" matter!

  • @jcmahrt5100
    @jcmahrt5100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    8:41 Murozond could be used as a raid boss but he would escape after you bring his health to certain level of percentage back into the time stream.

  • @Frostgnaw
    @Frostgnaw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I can't believe you forgot Captain Cookie. He's like THE most important lore character of all time.

  • @TommyDaGreatest
    @TommyDaGreatest 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Makes sense to have some lore figures in quests and dungeons though, because they have lore or story attached to them, just more easily accessible. It honestly makes more sense they get killed/defeated through a cutscene or dungeon than having 30 people nuking magic on them with hardly losing health. It's like if Hitler survived 40 ppl shooting at him during the WW2 because he was the main boss. That does happen though in Wolfenstein 3D but you still get my point. Makes more sense to defeat bosses with a normal amount of players than an army.

  • @LordProteus
    @LordProteus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm pretty sure Ner'zul and his Dungeon were originally going to be a raid. They have been demoting Raids to Dungeons since Wrath of the Lich King, usually when Blizzard realizes the current expansion is lacking in 5-man Dungeons. Loken was intended to be the final boss of Ulduar and Yogg Sarron was supposed to be the boss of his own underground Raid, which was probably going to be in the cut underground questing zone.

  • @edschramm6757
    @edschramm6757 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In fairness to Murozond, that fight was AWESOME, and I don't know if you could have gotten away with it outside of the Caverns of time

  • @fo-ef8qo
    @fo-ef8qo ปีที่แล้ว

    the Heroic Ner'Zhul fight was cool at least, but I definitely remember that being funny as well when I was playing WOD

  • @TheBeautyfulwolf
    @TheBeautyfulwolf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Uhm also to mention, Vincent Godfrey, is also one of the Highlords in Gilneas, and part of the Gilnean/Worgen lore. He gives the player quests along with King Gen Greymane. And is he very same one who tries to hand over King Greymane to the Horde, along with two other Highlords; Baron Ashbury, and Lord Valden. Who also ends up as bosses in the Shadowfang Keep

  • @ryanm7654
    @ryanm7654 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Considering the direction Shadowlands is going and the expansion they're obviously headed to after, what with Sargeras and all of this unresolved Titan vs Old God business.. wouldn't be surprised if Archaedas is relevant in the future.

  • @TheOneWhoReportsForDuty
    @TheOneWhoReportsForDuty 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At least Ner’zul has a raid fight now

  • @lonerkyle02
    @lonerkyle02 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Aside from a few of these characters, most of ended up on other lists in the past. While I do enjoy everything you make, I really wish you would make more unique or interesting lists that contain characters that are mentioned so frequently.

    • @illiji915
      @illiji915 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Next Video: Top 10 Characters Not Talked About Enough!

  • @nofreenameforme123
    @nofreenameforme123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    To be fair: Kael was a pain in the ass boss - twice.

  • @AlbaxArcade
    @AlbaxArcade 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The discs are still secure when mother connects to the other titan structures

  • @B00Mkinz
    @B00Mkinz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Everyone reading this should absolutely check out the flying buttress channel, currently doing a reading of the LK story. Hilariously insightful.

  • @roobixhube
    @roobixhube 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Being as you're doing a lore video, it's a tad reckless to say "We pushed Yogg'saron back into his prison", when Blizz have already confirmed that we kill it. And there is still plenty they can do with Murozond, as long as we don't end up outright killing him. They could easily do a thing where we get him to 5% health and then we lose him as he disappears into the time-waves.

    • @werewolf4358
      @werewolf4358 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Uuugh. Killing Yoggy. Maybe he just couldn't stand how dumb that is.

    • @drudle
      @drudle 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Blizzard stated that we should consider them dead but there's always wiggle room to bring them back. Which I assume they'll do at some point to some extent.

  • @Masterwar15
    @Masterwar15 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think it should be obvious that the amount of people needed to down the boss ingame isn't equal to the correct amount of people needed to do it in lore.
    I mean, I doubt that in lore 25 people were hitting Arthas at the same time, they were mostly fighting with undead that he summoned, and it was probably a little more than 25 people, and you could say that in the cases of other abnormally powerful bosses that got downed by just 5 people, it's because they were fighting alone against those 5 people, and lorewise the fight still took way more effort and luck than ingame and/or they were just THAT good. Still, just remember that power levels don't mean jackshit in Warcraft, there's only "strong and stronger". Villains stronger than raid bosses can be defeated in 5-men dungeon if they felt like they were good to become final bosses in dungeons but didn't have enough "substance" to make raids based around them, since raids are stored for more important lore characters in that specific expansion.

  • @Mr_Robby8
    @Mr_Robby8 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Well... N’zoth, he wasn’t in a dungeon but the way he was teased for years and years, and this time for the first time ever a fully unleashed old god on Azeroth... Just easily killed by love and friendship within one patch and a cheap cinematic :DD

  • @treespawned7844
    @treespawned7844 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Ah, the infamous red pointy arrow in thumbnails, with little caption next to them. I heard those give more clicks.

  • @polskaye
    @polskaye 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I kinda wished we saw Whitemane in this list but I understand why she wasn't there. Good video :D

  • @LordProteus
    @LordProteus 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Blizzard still won't let Players have Lord Godfrey's black robes, an act of deliberate maliciousness.

  • @razien9941
    @razien9941 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I think the character that fits this list the most is kargath bladefist from tbc. Since fel orcs were a big deal and a big part of illidans army, you would think the warchief of the fel horde would be a raid boss (probably in black temple). The legendary orc and leader of the shattered hand that was infamous cutting his own hands in order to place deadly weapons dies as a final dungeon boss

    • @Grieves0001
      @Grieves0001 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      to be fair, you had to have some raid gear to beat that dungeon on heroic

  • @Ript3r
    @Ript3r 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    To be fair we could see Murozond in a raid just that we don't specifically "kill" him

  • @erikstark16
    @erikstark16 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was a very good video, like :)

  • @Firzerino
    @Firzerino 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Nobody:
    Literally noone:
    Hiru: LILIAN VOSS !

    • @Iamnotpicky
      @Iamnotpicky 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm pretty sure he either needs his waifu Lillian or something else about the undead starting zone in every video, or loose sponsorship or something.

    • @Immagonko
      @Immagonko 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Iamnotpicky he's obsessed with Sylvanas too, maybe he's into undead

  • @TheWieldofrost
    @TheWieldofrost 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mal'Ganis. I think Balnazzar is decent too, but in addition with Mal'ganis' lore in WOW, he also made appearance in Hearthstone and Heroes of the Storm, so I think he's the most popular Dreadlord.
    He was revealed to still be alive in WOTLK and had claimed to plot against the Lich King, but we pretty much didn't see him again other than as a dungeon boss from the Culling of Strat. He reappeared in Legion during Battle for the Broken Shore and that's about it.

  • @mikarri7199
    @mikarri7199 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You forgot “Captain” Cookie. Easily tops this list.

  • @ShyShaymini
    @ShyShaymini 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Hogger on #10 Made me laugh really hard XDDDD

  • @tomwallen7271
    @tomwallen7271 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I dunno if it counts because timewalking dungeons are always a bit suspect.
    Queen Azshara was a dungeon boss back in Cataclysm (She wasn't even the final boss of that dungeon).
    In the original BRD, most groups killed Moira Bronzebeard (Now Moira Thaurissan, leader of the Dark Iron Dwarves) before they killed Emperor. Pretty major lore character who was mostly a healy speedbump at the end of a LONG dungeon. I suppose Moira's death isn't Canon since killing her was optional and she is leading a faction of the alliance, but seems like some clever Retcon for a leader we basically farmed in Classic.

  • @Qegg1
    @Qegg1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So this is what you're doing while I'm waiting for new Yu-Gi-Oh videos.

  • @mattmann06
    @mattmann06 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To be fair Loken is the weakest keeper. But had the strongest will.

  • @TheHotHelios
    @TheHotHelios 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I don't understand why being a dungeon boss is sort of a bad thing. Do you want every major character that dies to end up being a raid boss. I do agree that some characters like Kael and Anub'arak fits better as raid bosses, but I dont see much of a problem with lots of theses characters (especially some that I`m reading here in the comments) being dungeon bosses.

  • @Shev4thewin
    @Shev4thewin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think that Teron'gor deserve a spot on this list too :)

  • @IBrowneeI
    @IBrowneeI 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'd say Tyrande in End Time should get a spot too.
    Tyrande and Malfurion are easily the most powerful faction leaders out of all of them (until Sylvanas's recent bullshit, but hey) and she has tens of thousands of years of combat experience in pretty much all major world threatening events, up to and including two Legion invasions at that point.
    Yeah pretty much all four of the faction leaders you fight before Murazond are all distraught and maybe slightly insane, but if anything that should have just made Tyrande a hell of a lot deadlier. It wasn't even like her goddess completely abandoned her, even if she was calling out to her like she couldn't hear, she was still doing several of her main powers associated with Elune, including raining hell from the sky. Something that has obliterated armies in the past. By herself, she is a powerhouse of a leader that is an absolute force to be reckoned with.
    And five random arseholes just kinda wander in blindly (literally, since its in darkness) without any aid from the Bronze dragons, and put her down just like that. I mean, even if she was a little more insane and frightened, you'd kinda think that'd make her even deadlier, not holding back with her abilities, but... nope.

  • @phoenix7289
    @phoenix7289 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    hehe you said Loken was from Uldum at the end. :x
    This was a solid list, I'd be interested to see who you would say are spots 11-20!

  • @scotttypes10282007
    @scotttypes10282007 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You missed Kilrogg Deadeye in BC. I forget what dungeon (i wanna say a Hellfire citidal Dungeon, but there was like 3 of them...). As he was a big lore character going back to WC2 I was hoping to see him on your list. (no I am not talking about Deadeye in WOD). Overall good list though! Fun watch!

    • @joelswatten9611
      @joelswatten9611 ปีที่แล้ว

      Warchief Kargath Bladefist is the last boss of shattered halls, he is the warchief of the fel horde that have been transformed from siphoning the blood of Magtheridon, Jorin Deadeye who is the son of Kilrogg is an elite mob in hellfire peninsula.

  • @Chittysushi
    @Chittysushi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lord Godfrey's journey started before he was undead and in the Silverpine forest questline. He actually shows up in the Worgen starting zone where he and his comrades there killed themselves by jumping off a high ledge to avoid the Worgen curse, it's just a funny thing that either way they had no choice but to be undead now but probably could of avoided that Worgen curse.

  • @greasyg1026
    @greasyg1026 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the lore videos

  • @UrbanBeauty166
    @UrbanBeauty166 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Top 10 major lore characters killed in a quest? Ysera comes to mind for me when I think of it 😔

  • @Iggybart05
    @Iggybart05 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    everyone always says that loken was really hard. but i remember my guild never having issues with him on heroic difficulty. maybe that's the answer, it was always guildies i ran with in those days and not pugs, but still.

  • @Smile20Girl
    @Smile20Girl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It’s so sad how Blizz chose to portrait Ner’zhul. I had to watch videos explaining his lore, because the game doesn’t show him as much as he deserves.

    • @autumneagle
      @autumneagle 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think in WC3 The Frozen Throne they should've leaned more heavily into him looking like an orc before Arthas takes over

  • @TheAleccs
    @TheAleccs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Lillian Voss doesn't really belong on this list, she isn't JUST a random dungeon boss, she was also a pretty big part of BfA so i wouldn't say she's just a random boss and her story didn't end there, while the most of the others' im pretty sure did end with their death in the dungeon

    • @josejuanandrade4439
      @josejuanandrade4439 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well... i could say Hogger shouldn't be on that list either... but there are powerful reazons for Hiru to include them.. and those reazons are that he has to fill the list with 10 characters, and he couldn't make GUN-THER AR-CA-NUS number 1 of the list because he isn't in a dungeon... so he had to pick hogger and his 2nd favorite undead character.

  • @dantechristensen273
    @dantechristensen273 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I didn't dislike WoD by any stretch...but yeah they did Ner'zhul dirty in that expansion.

  • @--46200
    @--46200 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    7:27 kind of surprised that there's no comments yet that say anything about how Kael'thas is a raid boss yet again.

  • @1337Higgins
    @1337Higgins 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yeah Lilian's place in this video seems to be more of a "I love Lilian" move instead of an actual relevant one.

  • @zimattack9994
    @zimattack9994 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    top 10 times your pc talks with out the players choice

  • @dreamermagister8561
    @dreamermagister8561 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What s up with background music?
    Also wasnt Loken's death by his own design? He wanted to die to trigger the Reorigination Protocol.

  • @brandonplowman3949
    @brandonplowman3949 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I would be so down for an Infinite Dragonflight expansion

    • @lukesrnanek1755
      @lukesrnanek1755 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Seems like your wishes became reality