@Internet god I think you'll find it was about the amount of police officers not that there were police there, especially considering it might take a week to see one after you've been burgled or assaulted and that its almost Impossible to spot one of the clowns walking the streets
@Internet god ate we talking about the same corrupt politicians that gave their mates unlawful covid contracts and were complicit in the covering up of the rape and grooming of 1000s of innocent children, getting a simple reply to an email is hard enough but getting them to do anything is almost impossible. It's an old boys gang where the public are just pawns as I've already stated.
@Internet god I've been to many council meetings , I've been very vocal to the point of being asked to leave. The reason I'm usually asked to leave is (in my opinion) because the truth isn't welcome and answers are not forthcoming, the corruption in the UK runs very deep and only a few are willing to stand up and fight it unfortunately, most of the sheep are so brainwashed that they believe the government, police and other government bodies are there to help you, they're not . I suspect it's not much different in the US.
@Internet god you maybe correct but as I believe, nothing gets solved by being silent, and when ears fall deaf and ignorant, expressions need to be louder
The Metropolitan Police Website says you are allowed to film police personal, cars and stations. THAT IS THE LAW If the police try to stop you or arrest you then sue them
@@budgetnuclearweapons7858 their property !!paid by taxpayer with £££ It is accessible to the public also section 33 criminal justice act 1972 which extension of public place whether on payment or other wise (unless gated)
Remember, if there is a crime happening outside your house, for example, a couple of guys knifing the hell out of each other or someone breaking into a garage. DON'T report the actual crime, simply tell the operator that some person is standing outside your home filming everything on a camera and it's making you VERY uncomfortable....PRESTO, the bastards will be there in a matter of minutes as opposed to their usual show-up time which is in the hours....or not at all. :)
@A.J.Wells, about 30 years ago I called 999 to report a burglary. I was told forensics would be around asap to investigate and take details. 30 years later I'm still waiting for the arrival of the investigating officers.
8 x PC's and a Sgt pick up at least a quarter of a million quid of taxpayers money in salaries every year. Let that sink in for a minute......! All stood around doing Jack and absolutely stealing a living. If you were at home and called the "Police" because someone was trying to break in no one would turn up.
They can spare that many officers for a man with a camera, but a friend of mines mother had her house broken into. When she phoned the police she was told to try and not touch anything that might be evidence. After 3 days 2 officers turned up in a car and gave her a crime number so that she could claim on her insurance, then left!!!!
If it happens again tell your friend’s mother to ring the police and tell them there’s a man outside with a camera. Before long half the station will be outside her house.
When Google streetview was first introduced, that was one of the main opposing arguments. That it would be useful for crime and even terrorism. And I'm sure it has been used in plenty of crimes and possibly the odd jihadi paradise trip.
@@leathleyg5995 now that it’s been sorted we will have to ask them to update. What’s your street name? I live in a country area and the aerial view has been updated several times and street view never seems to be more than two years old.
So he stopped himself and the other officers from going to an ACTUAL crime scene to talk to you who wasn't breaking any laws ? Am I missing something here ?
You didn’t miss anything Colin, nothing ,nothing is more important than a man outside a police station with a camera . A crime is happening or happened they can get to it slow time apparently.
That's not fair, they are very busy protecting us and our freedom's... Especially during covid, they are modern day hero's putting their lives on the line everyday without a second thought
13:45 "Filming a police station could fall under the terrorism act." When does it really fall under the act? And when does it escape the act? And could any photography fall under the terrorism act? In other words, is it just police stations, or could other buildings be classified under the terrorism act? What about the houses of parliament or the local council building or the shopping centre or whatever. The point is to point out that to fall under the terrorism act it is more than just photography, there has to be other objective evidence to point towards terrorism. The default assumption must be that someone with a camera is just carrying out a hobby or job.
Google maps , has filmed every police station ....everywhere... Are they being questioned ..? And ... If I was a terrorist , I would just use that , and have a look at the police station of my choice without going there.
And what was really bad was how many started to circle him whalst the sergeant was speaking. It was as if they were waiting to jump the Auditor. And if that happened talk about the lies the police would come out with and any videos would be damaged beyond use. The police think that sort of thing still works. But it doesn't judge's are starting to see a patten of behaviour by the police when it comes to video evidence disappearing or damaged beyond use.
@@topcat1358 Maybe they all wanted to come out and see something odd. An individual that doesn't bow to their perceived authority and speaks with some semblance of intelligence. God knows, they don't have many positive role models within the police.
It's just bizarre! What on Earth is going on in their minds? They're going to have to recruit a few thousand more police officers to ask a lot of stupid questions to people using cameras. God knows how much that would cost; maybe Diane Abbott can tell us.
I’m really impressed mate. You’ve perfected your technique in such a short space of time. You managed to keep control of the entire situation and didn’t let them get away with their usual tricks. You’re assertive while remaining polite. Keep up the great work!
Everyone watching this remember if you are a victim of a minor crime please also tell them they were filming seems the best way to get a copper to attend!
Cameras are a Life Saver, Especially When Confronted by Power Pissed TYRANTS like this Gaggle, ...........Love the way you Controlled the Possee From the Pig Sty.. Great Video, Brilliant Audit. Well Done. ☺😊👍👍👍👏👏👏
Bloody hell. Criminals must have had a field day. All the town's coppers were in the Police Station car park dealing with someone NOT breaking any law not out in the town tackling ACTUAL crimes!!!
Great Audit! Thanks for putting them in their place. One thing you could use is, when they say they have to question you, you could always say that they did, I answered but the answers to the questions are never enough, they have to keep making up more questions in the hope that they will find something to arrest me for. Ego I find is the problem especially with the female pc's, they just dont like being put in their place or in other word's being deposited back into the box from whence they came.
when that first plod comes up and started questioning you, you should have used that immortal line which tyrants always use to demean others: "im not going to argue about this with you", and then ignored them!
9 Billy Bunters FAIL!!! And I wouldn't bother going to this "crime scene", it's too late they're all dead or kidnapped , but thanks anyway for your effort 🤦🏻♂️.
Well done young sir, you're a little shaky on the NPCC guidance but the gist of it was all there. I appreciate you are nervous, because there is always the prospect of an unlawful arrest, however I suggest you slow down your delivery a touch. The rush to inform could be seen as weakness. A reliable little birdie has told me there is a bit of a backlash in the MET because they are pissed off at being filmed. Sergeants and some younger inspectors are suggesting the kiddies act daft on the guidance and continue to give auditors a hard time.
How after all this time, all these internal memos, all the law suits…. How is it possible at all that officers STILL don’t even know what an audit is?? TH-cam should be essential parts of their training!!! 🤷♂️🤦♂️
There will come a day when there will be an audit without the word section 43 mentioned but unfortunately it will only be due to the fact that section has been removed from the law
"ANYONE WHO DECLARES THEMSELVES AN AUDITOR MUST BE LEFT ALONE" unless the police want to totally ignore that directive and decide that they think you might be terrorist.
Good one, the way you walked away. Did not like her the way she twisted everything, hope I never need her, could never trust her. Hope she gets the boot.
Imagine the look on their faces when the next time you are asked "Why are you filming the police station?" you respond with "To see how quickly you can make fools of yourselves.".
That was basically the sergeants contribution to the whole conversation..... thinking it so important to correct plod for saying "WPC" when he should have said "PC". That's why he gets paid such big money. He spoke very carefully the rest of the time to demonstrate how his minions should (NOT) deal with the public. And plod shot him down in flames on every point he tried making. A fool in uniform leading other fools.
"If you could tell me how long I'll have to wait for the other sergeant to make my complaint to, I'll just film all the vehicles and registrations in your parking lot whilst I wait" Bet he'd be there within a minute ROFL
@@britbyname3620 I said there’s lots of police in some auditing videos so they can do on job training. Ie watching another police officer show how it’s done.
Couple of things: 1. The Sergeant needed a boot up the arse at 14:50. After you replied to the mouthy get, the Sergeant interjected: "Speaking to me! Speaking to me!" to get you to stop talking to her. No! He should have told her to button it as he was conversing with you. So the distraction is apparently your fault & not hers! That's a fail in itself. Blaming a member of the public for an interruption (which was in itself a lie!!), instead of one of his staff. 2. So it's not a WPC any more, is it? I'd have said to the Sergeant: "Apologies for trying & failing to be PC about the PC. I should have just called her a cnut & you couldn't have corrected me for that". Question: Is the Sergeant correct to say (15:07) that it's an offence after the Terrorist act to film a police station? It's a new one on me, if that's the case. Surprised you didn't challenge him on that one. Good work!
This is why cops, anywhere, hate any camera...particularly the one's they can't control....A camera in civilian hands is the harbinger of the message that the sun sets fast on the days of "make it up as you go along"...but there still exist MANY examples that show it's a tradition that is VERY hard to let go of...
By the by that sergeant was talking total crap about everything - he was showing off for the other policemen there and the Asian lady who needs to be sacked as she can't do her job.
I can’t believe that these police really genuinely think that the photographer is a terrorist. The truth is that they don’t like being photographed and are trying to make it illegal by fiat. Honestly, it must be stopped. Every time this happens they must be taken to court. If not they just become empowered and eventually the police will just make it impossible to photograph. What annoys me is that so many are in the police station and not on patrol. How many people have been charged with terrorism for taking photos.?
I think it’s sad where you have to visually record inside the police station during an interview for your own protection! What’s going on in your country
I'd be surprised if he is allowed to do that. The auditor from what he said seems to think he has the right to film inside the station. He doesn't, if he manages to film in there its because they're allowing him to.
The police have no power to stop you filming or photographing officers on duty. Recording film footage on a police incident, or taking photographs of their actions, is not illegal. But, you must follow some basic guidelines if you choose to film police officers or law enforcement personnel.
i hope people notice that the sergeant believes he can ignore orders from his boss if HE thinks they are a mistake. & then go on YT & tell everyone that his bosses have made a mistake & HE gets 2 decide how 2 treat auditors & NOT his bosses
EXCELLENT WORK - THE POLICE MUST BE VIDEOED WHILE THEY PERFORM THEIR DUTIES. WHEN THE GOVERNMENT IS AWARE AND IS FEARFUL OF THE PUB;IC, YOU HAVE LIBERTY. WHEN THE GOVERNMENT INSIST ON PLACING FEAR INTO THE CITIZENS, YOU HAVE A 'TYRANNICAL" GOVERNMENT. THANK YOU FOR STANDING UP FOR THE BASIC RIGHTS OF EVERY HUMAN EVERY WHERE.....
Phone a copper and see what reply you get, yet several want to stand over to members of the public doing nothing but be legal, disgusting waste of taxes.
I would like to say I have been to this station and I was abused by a man after I was mugged and they helped however there was public men there and started me feeling really scared so once I went outside and told a police man he went inside the station and talked to them. I ended up asking the police officer outside to help me get the information that I needed. I gave my report when I got mugged. This man sounds like the one who insulted me in the station.
How is it that the police claim to be extremely busy and understaffed and yet a single member of the public carrying our a legal activity outside the station, results in a gang of 9 officers immediately coming out to investigate.
'RECRUITING NOW' - we are under manned. Really do a good job advertising that statement. Get assaulted or robbed its ''all our officers are currently busy, your call will be prioritised'' stand outside a police station with a camera and nine will turn up.
well done for standing up to the feminist police officer. they love throwing their power around and you absolutely put her in her place. I bet no man has ever spoken to her like that. well done!
By the Sergeant's reasoning, everyone driving around in their car could be transporting a car bomb. Does that mean everybody driving in a car should be stopped and have their car searched for bombs?
Story time. I work for a company that does contracting work for a couple of police forces, one of which has a couple of stations which fall in my service area. I was on site at one such station a few weeks ago when a call came over the tannoy saying "auditors filming in reception, assistance required". Less than twenty seconds later, no fewer than six coppers went sprinting down the corridor past the room I was working in and the civilian staff member I was working with just rolled her eyes and said "This again. Happens at least once a week. All they have to do is leave them alone and they wander off after a few minutes. Instead they roll down there mob handed and the whole situation escalates." If the civilian staff member whose job it is to file paperwork knows the law around auditing better than the warranted constables then it's a worrying insight into the state of policing today. It's not even a difficult or complex problem to sort out. Just circulate a 10 minute briefing for all officers and police staff to brief them on what auditors are allowed and not allowed to do, and we wouldn't have these ludicrous sitations where 10 coppers come running for a man stood outside a station with a camera and it would hopefully end all the unlawful searches and arrests under the terrorism act which cost the taxpayer hundreds of thousands of pounds in civil suit damages.
Good to hear that you're cutting down on the use of the filler words 'actually', 'actual' and 'literally', they make you appear nervous and unsure. A great improvement on this audit, just stay calm and don't rush the verbal interactions.
None of them wearing any head gear , when did that become part of the Police `norm` ? No wonder my council tax keeps increasing year on year, total waste of tax payers money.
@@beds139 Brain Box? ...you are clearly lack the vocabulary and/or intelligence to enter into debate on a public platform with that kind of nonsense.( look at the like my comment received)
The law works on what we do know ... the end what u do t no is irrelevant unless u have grounds .. not opinion, ignorance and prejudice as most dirty cops appear to believe
15:05 "it is an offence under the terrorism act to record police stations".....REALLY, when did that law come in? I'd like to know where this sergeant got his stripes and Ill bet it was Kellogs
@@shush_ya_mush Yep...... Auditors and their disciples often overlook the fact that out there there's some very real, very nasty, terrorists. If someone was caught taking photos for the purpose of committing an act of terror, that in itself, is an offence. So you would have to be a genuine, bona fide terrorist with fully paid up subscriptions to an appropriate gang, and have the knowledge that the information would assist an attack. Section 58A of the Terrorism Act 2000 Section 58A of the Terrorism Act 2000 covers the offence of eliciting, publishing or communicating information about members of the armed forces, intelligence services or police where the information is, by its very nature, designed to provide practical assistance to a person committing or preparing an act of terrorism. Any officer making an arrest for an offence under Section 58A must be able to demonstrate a reasonable suspicion that the information was, by its very nature, designed to provide practical assistance to a person committing or preparing an act of terrorism. It would ordinarily be unlawful to use section 58A to arrest people photographing police officers in the course of normal policing activities, including protests because there would not normally be grounds for suspecting that the photographs were being taken to provide assistance to a terrorist. An arrest would only be lawful if an arresting officer had a reasonable suspicion that the photographs were being taken in order to provide practical assistance to a person committing or preparing an act of terrorism.
@@leathleyg5995 so after that rant we are still no closer to saying if taking a photo of a police station is against the law as this sergeant seems to think. What most police seem to forget is that they are not a valuable target for a terrorist and their own codes of practice, namely 'terrorism act 2000 code of practice4.5.4which tells them not to jump to conclusions and leave photographers alone. They just use terrorism as it's a power they can abuse and you cannot correlate a photographer with a terrorist
I'm a huge fan of auditers, I think the police needs to be audited, but I also think some auditers are losing their way. You were too fired up mate here on this audit. You should cook them slow and give them time to incriminate themselves. You went from 0 to 60 in less than a sec pal. Try a better approach, let them spell out all of the shit and then slowly correct them. All the best pal
The police have created a chasm that has become too wide to bridge, until a massive overhaul and a retraining program is put into place. There were two CPSOs who left because of the attitude of police officers toward the the public. They were well liked, helped towards getting a Community Centre, and encouraged the young teenagers to take up a more productive way to help help them later in life. Sad.
Man with camera: 6 constables in 5 minutes. Door kicked down and house robbed: no-one available for 3 days. Such are the priorities, over-staffed police currently exist to protect the police, not the public
5 people filming boats at Dover have had injunction's served, telling them to stop filming...i think they are using the old stress, harm or harrassment
I think there was a bit of miscommunication here. When initially talking about being "an auditor" I think the sergeant thought it was some sort of official audit. Obviously, he 'twigged' but for a while the conversation was on two different levels.
Funny how in rich areas they have loads of police but in normal working class areas you never see one.
It's all about the money, the working man ain't important to the clowns, we're just pawns in their corrupt game
@Internet god I think you'll find it was about the amount of police officers not that there were police there, especially considering it might take a week to see one after you've been burgled or assaulted and that its almost Impossible to spot one of the clowns walking the streets
@Internet god ate we talking about the same corrupt politicians that gave their mates unlawful covid contracts and were complicit in the covering up of the rape and grooming of 1000s of innocent children, getting a simple reply to an email is hard enough but getting them to do anything is almost impossible. It's an old boys gang where the public are just pawns as I've already stated.
@Internet god I've been to many council meetings , I've been very vocal to the point of being asked to leave. The reason I'm usually asked to leave is (in my opinion) because the truth isn't welcome and answers are not forthcoming, the corruption in the UK runs very deep and only a few are willing to stand up and fight it unfortunately, most of the sheep are so brainwashed that they believe the government, police and other government bodies are there to help you, they're not . I suspect it's not much different in the US.
@Internet god you maybe correct but as I believe, nothing gets solved by being silent, and when ears fall deaf and ignorant, expressions need to be louder
That sergeant actually said it's an offence to record a police station.
Tosser
Yeah he did
They have an arsonal of lies they tell.
Just about fell off my chair!
The Metropolitan Police Website says you are allowed to film police personal, cars and stations. THAT IS THE LAW
If the police try to stop you or arrest you then sue them
you are correct sir ,,,CODE 43:13:1 (c)
the police have no power to stop the filming or photographing of incidents or police
personnel.
@@budgetnuclearweapons7858 their property !!paid by taxpayer with £££
It is accessible to the public also section 33 criminal justice act 1972 which extension of public place whether on payment or other wise (unless gated)
@@budgetnuclearweapons7858 isn't public property ?
@@budgetnuclearweapons7858 calm down sir, you need reflective practice ,shhhhh steady now ,,please do not contact me again please
@@TheBILLANDERSON I would request no contact if he made me look a knob too.
Nice to know that there is so little crime around the Wembley area. Makes you wonder why we have to pay for such a huge police station.
Remember, if there is a crime happening outside your house, for example, a couple of guys knifing the hell out of each other or someone breaking into a garage. DON'T report the actual crime, simply tell the operator that some person is standing outside your home filming everything on a camera and it's making you VERY uncomfortable....PRESTO, the bastards will be there in a matter of minutes as opposed to their usual show-up time which is in the hours....or not at all. :)
we got a clever one amongst our midst lol
About 20 years ago I reported a burglary...5 hours later copper says "Where are they?"
@@Malabus73 sad thing is I could believe this lol
Na that won’t work it will only work if your a police officer and need your buddies to come help you
@A.J.Wells, about 30 years ago I called 999 to report a burglary. I was told forensics would be around asap to investigate and take details. 30 years later I'm still waiting for the arrival of the investigating officers.
Good education for the WPC. Stay safe out there God bless you.
8 x PC's and a Sgt pick up at least a quarter of a million quid of taxpayers money in salaries every year.
Let that sink in for a minute......!
All stood around doing Jack and absolutely stealing a living.
If you were at home and called the "Police" because someone was trying to break in no one would turn up.
Glorified Recpitants of 'Work for your welfare benefits'
Spot on, they are all under the illusion they are ‘keeping us safe’
quarter of a million? them PC's are on 30k base salary and the Sgt probably 40k
Police work nowadays = CALL 101
@@mrb4408 PACE '1984',
'Nineteen Eighty Four' Room 101 🤔
The Thought Police Call 101
Can it be only coincidence 🤔
They can spare that many officers for a man with a camera, but a friend of mines mother had her house broken into. When she phoned the police she was told to try and not touch anything that might be evidence. After 3 days 2 officers turned up in a car and gave her a crime number so that she could claim on her insurance, then left!!!!
Imagine though if it was a police officer's house that was burgled??🤔🤔. Could you imagine the response then.
Because its.. outside of a police station- they were probably in their doing paperwork
Dam that was bad .
They are not doing themselves any favours
If it happens again tell your friend’s mother to ring the police and tell them there’s a man outside with a camera. Before long half the station will be outside her house.
They never accuse google maps of terrorism or hostile reconnaissance, funny that.
When Google streetview was first introduced, that was one of the main opposing arguments. That it would be useful for crime and even terrorism. And I'm sure it has been used in plenty of crimes and possibly the odd jihadi paradise trip.
@@leathleyg5995 It's still operating legally and hassle free.
@@dave_ryan Except my street.
I managed to get it deleted in the early days when illegality was still being questioned. I was lucky !
@@leathleyg5995 now that it’s been sorted we will have to ask them to update. What’s your street name? I live in a country area and the aerial view has been updated several times and street view never seems to be more than two years old.
@@ronprince1478 Its been updated a few times and my street still isn't on.
*THAT SERGEANT WAS DEVELOPING A TWITCH OF NERVES ALL THE WAY THROUGH*
He wasn't happy with the situation but he knew he was being filmed so he played the charm card but his body language gave him away.
@@jimmydempsey6857 So true Jimmy and the sweat was pouring out of his forehead.
If anyone ever tries to tell you that our "brave" policemen are overworked and underpaid show them this video.
Fair point actually....
33k a year for the Met, starting salary!
@@Nobody-dm2ol and by the looks of it all the weapons you can carry...
Spot on!
Let’s hope they’re watching, it demonstrates just how useless they are hence now the Met are under special measures.
So he stopped himself and the other officers from going to an ACTUAL crime scene to talk to you who wasn't breaking any laws ?
Am I missing something here ?
It wasn't urgent. The crime had already happened.
You didn’t miss anything Colin, nothing ,nothing is more important than a man outside a police station with a camera . A crime is happening or happened they can get to it slow time apparently.
Did you actually think they really had crime scenes?
It's a good job that the police is understaffed or there would have been a couple of dozens of those clowns surrounding you.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
That's not fair, they are very busy protecting us and our freedom's... Especially during covid, they are modern day hero's putting their lives on the line everyday without a second thought
@@bassjunk3 dream on
@@hanshartfiel6394 will you be my hero baby. Will you kiss away my pain...
So if you need help hope they do not turn up our major sued them for billions of pounds before he entered politics.
Paranoia multiplied. "We are all doomed." A quote from Dads Army. I despair at the insanity of it all. As human beings we have failed. .
Nice one plod man ! Respect, love watching your videos very informative,interesting and inspiring!😉👌
I like your face.
13:45 "Filming a police station could fall under the terrorism act." When does it really fall under the act? And when does it escape the act? And could any photography fall under the terrorism act? In other words, is it just police stations, or could other buildings be classified under the terrorism act? What about the houses of parliament or the local council building or the shopping centre or whatever. The point is to point out that to fall under the terrorism act it is more than just photography, there has to be other objective evidence to point towards terrorism. The default assumption must be that someone with a camera is just carrying out a hobby or job.
Google maps , has filmed every police station ....everywhere...
Are they being questioned ..?
And ...
If I was a terrorist , I would just use that , and have a look at the police station of my choice without going there.
Wow, every person outside Buckingham Palace must be arrested as well!
Unbelievable, this can't go on, we can't pay for officers to deal with people on a 3-1 basis.
Bacon - That wasn't 3-1. There was NINE of them, just to talk to two auditors. That makes it 4.5 to one.
And what was really bad was how many started to circle him whalst the sergeant was speaking. It was as if they were waiting to jump the Auditor. And if that happened talk about the lies the police would come out with and any videos would be damaged beyond use. The police think that sort of thing still works. But it doesn't judge's are starting to see a patten of behaviour by the police when it comes to video evidence disappearing or damaged beyond use.
It is unbelievable, a bad joke. :/ Mmmm, bacon butty. ❤️
Auditor: “I’m not going to say anything more.”
Then auditor doesn’t stop talking non-stop for another 15 minutes.
@@topcat1358 Maybe they all wanted to come out and see something odd. An individual that doesn't bow to their perceived authority and speaks with some semblance of intelligence. God knows, they don't have many positive role models within the police.
Another excellent video Plod, and quick thinking to give your ID to your friend, just in case. Well done. What a bunch of arseholes they were.
It's just bizarre! What on Earth is going on in their minds? They're going to have to recruit a few thousand more police officers to ask a lot of stupid questions to people using cameras. God knows how much that would cost; maybe Diane Abbott can tell us.
Trained by a private corporation.
Diane Abbott said it will be about armchair!
@@Demonlay666 I thought she said it was a bacon sandwich.
If they do recruit a few thousand more they might (only might ) find a couple of decent ones .
Perhaps we should pay them the levels of pay Dianne Abbot reccomends.
I’m really impressed mate. You’ve perfected your technique in such a short space of time. You managed to keep control of the entire situation and didn’t let them get away with their usual tricks. You’re assertive while remaining polite. Keep up the great work!
I've said this from the outset. He is good!
He was in the military a good while ago from the looks of him, he's old, so he has had the strong attitude from that.
@@richarddainty2855 Well he isn't as controlled as DJ for instance. Get's flustered and keeps saying OK. No need for that.....Ok
@@Cybertruck1000 OK is entertaining.
@@gregkasza1925 OK then
Everyone watching this remember if you are a victim of a minor crime please also tell them they were filming seems the best way to get a copper to attend!
Cameras are a Life Saver, Especially When Confronted by Power Pissed TYRANTS like this Gaggle, ...........Love the way you Controlled the Possee From the Pig Sty..
Great Video, Brilliant Audit. Well Done. ☺😊👍👍👍👏👏👏
Bloody hell. Criminals must have had a field day. All the town's coppers were in the Police Station car park dealing with someone NOT breaking any law not out in the town tackling ACTUAL crimes!!!
Nine officers for a man with a camera it's a clear indication that the public is winning keeping them on toes, great video guys.
No it proves the terrorist are winning 👍👍
Great Audit! Thanks for putting them in their place. One thing you could use is, when they say they have to question you, you could always say that they did, I answered but the answers to the questions are never enough, they have to keep making up more questions in the hope that they will find something to arrest me for. Ego I find is the problem especially with the female pc's, they just dont like being put in their place or in other word's being deposited back into the box from whence they came.
Can you imagine being this terrified at your workplace? They have all those weapons and vests, yet they are still frightened. Embarrassing!
But they are understaffed ! And can not everywhere at same time (mostly dangerous places).
when that first plod comes up and started questioning you, you should have used that immortal line which tyrants always use to demean others: "im not going to argue about this with you", and then ignored them!
Very well handled especially with the amount of intimidation they tried to put on you, great work mate 👍👏
Yes
Exactly 💯
9 Billy Bunters FAIL!!! And I wouldn't bother going to this "crime scene", it's too late they're all dead or kidnapped , but thanks anyway for your effort 🤦🏻♂️.
Yeah
Blue isis gangs piggies everywhere 🐷 😈
He was going to get donuts and a few kebabs 😂🤣
Well done young sir, you're a little shaky on the NPCC guidance but the gist of it was all there. I appreciate you are nervous, because there is always the prospect of an unlawful arrest, however I suggest you slow down your delivery a touch. The rush to inform could be seen as weakness. A reliable little birdie has told me there is a bit of a backlash in the MET because they are pissed off at being filmed. Sergeants and some younger inspectors are suggesting the kiddies act daft on the guidance and continue to give auditors a hard time.
How after all this time, all these internal memos, all the law suits…. How is it possible at all that officers STILL don’t even know what an audit is?? TH-cam should be essential parts of their training!!! 🤷♂️🤦♂️
THEY KNOW...ITS A POWER PLAY FROM THE INTELLIGENCE LIMITED
@@bruceseaman6592 EXACTLY !!!!
Maybe they can’t read?
Got me buggered Benny how couldn’t they know, ego above brains I suppose.
1. They simply don't care. 2. They don't personally pay the fines. 3. Their egos override the instructions given in the memo.
There will come a day when there will be an audit without the word section 43 mentioned but unfortunately it will only be due to the fact that section has been removed from the law
They always stand around people to try and intimidate them.
"ANYONE WHO DECLARES THEMSELVES AN AUDITOR MUST BE LEFT ALONE" unless the police want to totally ignore that directive and decide that they think you might be terrorist.
Hoit
Good one, the way you walked away. Did not like her the way she twisted everything, hope I never need her, could never trust her. Hope she gets the boot.
Patel must be the mouth of the station as no-one else was willing to say anything.
She won't get the boot, she's not just a normal copper but an equalities box ticking copper.
You done a great job at Wembley police station.
Because you know what your talking about all thier arguments failed abysmally.
Great job.
Should always answer the question of 'what are you doing' with 'I'm minding my own business' and get on with your business.
Imagine the look on their faces when the next time you are asked "Why are you filming the police station?" you respond with "To see how quickly you can make fools of yourselves.".
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Brilliant footage of overstaffed and over funded, unprofessional bullies, keep it up, well done ✅
You're talking a load of dicky doodle Dicky.
@@beds139 , as highlighted by so many Police staff.
One of the best audits i have seen!!!
If I wish to call her WPC I shall: it’s called freedom of speech.
It is not up to the police to decide how the English language may be used.
Just like a wasp upset one and they all come out
@@jamesgoodwin9762 I thought rat would be more accurate.
That was basically the sergeants contribution to the whole conversation..... thinking it so important to correct plod for saying "WPC" when he should have said "PC". That's why he gets paid such big money. He spoke very carefully the rest of the time to demonstrate how his minions should (NOT) deal with the public. And plod shot him down in flames on every point he tried making. A fool in uniform leading other fools.
I'll stick with WPC thank you all the same, of course when I use WPC it refers to all police officers and the W doesn't stand for Woman.
"If you could tell me how long I'll have to wait for the other sergeant to make my complaint to, I'll just film all the vehicles and registrations in your parking lot whilst I wait" Bet he'd be there within a minute ROFL
What a load of bollocks the police were talking yet again
Great video audit matey well done
You’re doing a valuable job!!! Well done!!
That's the standard of Sergeant? Blatantly lies on camera about it being an offence to film Police stations. Beyond redemption.
Until this video, I did not agree with your auditing.
The amount of Police Officers is an absolute disgrace.
Keep up the great work!
Their are are prob so many due to trying to do on job training .
@@cruiseylee , that makes sense!
@@cruiseylee What?
@@britbyname3620 I said there’s lots of police in some auditing videos so they can do on job training. Ie watching another police officer show how it’s done.
Another great audit. Well done.👏🏼👏🏼
When they're walking away " tell em you're dismissed "
Couple of things:
1. The Sergeant needed a boot up the arse at 14:50. After you replied to the mouthy get, the Sergeant interjected: "Speaking to me! Speaking to me!" to get you to stop talking to her. No! He should have told her to button it as he was conversing with you. So the distraction is apparently your fault & not hers! That's a fail in itself. Blaming a member of the public for an interruption (which was in itself a lie!!), instead of one of his staff.
2. So it's not a WPC any more, is it? I'd have said to the Sergeant: "Apologies for trying & failing to be PC about the PC. I should have just called her a cnut & you couldn't have corrected me for that".
Question: Is the Sergeant correct to say (15:07) that it's an offence after the Terrorist act to film a police station? It's a new one on me, if that's the case. Surprised you didn't challenge him on that one.
Good work!
They can't be called Bobbies anymore.
DOING SOMETHING LEGALLY = 9 OFFICERS, CRIME COMMITED = 0.
No longer wpc ?thats a new one on me.
This is why cops, anywhere, hate any camera...particularly the one's they can't control....A camera in civilian hands is the harbinger of the message that the sun sets fast on the days of "make it up as you go along"...but there still exist MANY examples that show it's a tradition that is VERY hard to let go of...
By the by that sergeant was talking total crap about everything - he was showing off for the other policemen there and the Asian lady who needs to be sacked as she can't do her job.
Well handled fella, you kept calm all through that interaction despite that gang trying to intimidate you, keep it up...😎👍
Lol this auditor knows exactly what he's doing. I'm happy I'm subbed to this channel!
I can’t believe that these police really genuinely think that the photographer is a terrorist. The truth is that they don’t like being photographed and are trying to make it illegal by fiat. Honestly, it must be stopped. Every time this happens they must be taken to court. If not they just become empowered and eventually the police will just make it impossible to photograph. What annoys me is that so many are in the police station and not on patrol. How many people have been charged with terrorism for taking photos.?
I think it’s sad where you have to visually record inside the police station during an interview for your own protection! What’s going on in your country
I'd be surprised if he is allowed to do that.
The auditor from what he said seems to think he has the right to film inside the station. He doesn't, if he manages to film in there its because they're allowing him to.
“Don’t tell him your name, Pike.” LOL
The camera to a copper is like garlic to a vampire!
They hate it don't they....?
@@leathleyg5995 like Scrooge hated Christmas.
The police have no power to stop you filming or photographing officers on duty. Recording film footage on a police incident, or taking photographs of their actions, is not illegal. But, you must follow some basic guidelines if you choose to film police officers or law enforcement personnel.
And what are the basic guidelines?
i hope people notice that the sergeant believes he can ignore orders from his boss if HE thinks they are a mistake.
& then go on YT & tell everyone that his bosses have made a mistake & HE gets 2 decide how 2 treat auditors & NOT his bosses
EXCELLENT WORK - THE POLICE MUST BE VIDEOED WHILE THEY PERFORM THEIR DUTIES. WHEN THE GOVERNMENT IS AWARE AND IS FEARFUL OF THE PUB;IC, YOU HAVE LIBERTY. WHEN THE GOVERNMENT INSIST ON PLACING FEAR INTO THE CITIZENS, YOU HAVE A 'TYRANNICAL" GOVERNMENT. THANK YOU FOR STANDING UP FOR THE BASIC RIGHTS OF EVERY HUMAN EVERY WHERE.....
Phone a copper and see what reply you get, yet several want to stand over to members of the public doing nothing but be legal, disgusting waste of taxes.
If the police knew the law they would be lawyers!
Well done , Thanks for your service and for the effort you put in for auditing this officer with mental health issues
I would like to say I have been to this station and I was abused by a man after I was mugged and they helped however there was public men there and started me feeling really scared so once I went outside and told a police man he went inside the station and talked to them. I ended up asking the police officer outside to help me get the information that I needed. I gave my report when I got mugged. This man sounds like the one who insulted me in the station.
Just tell them that police stations are NOT EXEMPT from public photography
How is it that the police claim to be extremely busy and understaffed and yet a single member of the public carrying our a legal activity outside the station, results in a gang of 9 officers immediately coming out to investigate.
'RECRUITING NOW' - we are under manned. Really do a good job advertising that statement.
Get assaulted or robbed its ''all our officers are currently busy, your call will be prioritised'' stand outside a police station with a camera and nine will turn up.
I love your audit and confidence
The cleaner is worried for the police safety and she will report you.
Anders, those toilets won’t clean themselves and we all know what lousy shots the cops are.
well done for standing up to the feminist police officer. they love throwing their power around and you absolutely put her in her place. I bet no man has ever spoken to her like that. well done!
By the Sergeant's reasoning, everyone driving around in their car could be transporting a car bomb. Does that mean everybody driving in a car should be stopped and have their car searched for bombs?
Story time. I work for a company that does contracting work for a couple of police forces, one of which has a couple of stations which fall in my service area. I was on site at one such station a few weeks ago when a call came over the tannoy saying "auditors filming in reception, assistance required". Less than twenty seconds later, no fewer than six coppers went sprinting down the corridor past the room I was working in and the civilian staff member I was working with just rolled her eyes and said "This again. Happens at least once a week. All they have to do is leave them alone and they wander off after a few minutes. Instead they roll down there mob handed and the whole situation escalates."
If the civilian staff member whose job it is to file paperwork knows the law around auditing better than the warranted constables then it's a worrying insight into the state of policing today. It's not even a difficult or complex problem to sort out. Just circulate a 10 minute briefing for all officers and police staff to brief them on what auditors are allowed and not allowed to do, and we wouldn't have these ludicrous sitations where 10 coppers come running for a man stood outside a station with a camera and it would hopefully end all the unlawful searches and arrests under the terrorism act which cost the taxpayer hundreds of thousands of pounds in civil suit damages.
Give them a uniform and it goes to they head. The Whole Indian Hockey Team were named Patel. Look it up. Patel passes to Patel.etc
The UK and London in particular must have one of the worst police forces in Europe
The world
Well done … they have not got a clue.how hated they are
Still no actual acknowledgement of the memo from any police I've seen
Good to hear that you're cutting down on the use of the filler words 'actually', 'actual' and 'literally', they make you appear nervous and unsure. A great improvement on this audit, just stay calm and don't rush the verbal interactions.
Talks too much.
I'll be honest, I miss actually.
Well done Jamie Oliver best audit I have seen in ages.
None of them wearing any head gear , when did that become part of the Police `norm` ?
No wonder my council tax keeps increasing year on year, total waste of tax payers money.
So you wouldn't have any police then brain box?
@@beds139 Brain Box? ...you are clearly lack the vocabulary and/or intelligence to enter into debate on a public platform with that kind of nonsense.( look at the like my comment received)
The law works on what we do know ... the end what u do t no is irrelevant unless u have grounds .. not opinion, ignorance and prejudice as most dirty cops appear to believe
it reminds me of the old western films where the native americans surround the wagons
Second video I've seen so a new Sub here. I'm so glad there's a lot of young people out their that knows the law & rights & standing up for those.
15:05 "it is an offence under the terrorism act to record police stations".....REALLY, when did that law come in?
I'd like to know where this sergeant got his stripes and Ill bet it was Kellogs
At that point he knew he was talking bollocks to a person who knew the law better than him. He started to back off from then on.
It came in with the rest of the TA in 2000. He was talking about sect 58a where it would be part of a hostile reconnaissance.
@@leathleyg5995 nonsense! You’re saying taking photos of a police station is in the terrorism act?
@@shush_ya_mush Yep......
Auditors and their disciples often overlook the fact that out there there's some very real, very nasty, terrorists.
If someone was caught taking photos for the purpose of committing an act of terror, that in itself, is an offence.
So you would have to be a genuine, bona fide terrorist with fully paid up subscriptions to an appropriate gang, and have the knowledge that the information would assist an attack.
Section 58A of the Terrorism Act 2000
Section 58A of the Terrorism Act 2000 covers the offence of eliciting, publishing or communicating information about members of the armed forces, intelligence services or police where the information is, by its very nature, designed to provide practical assistance to a person committing or preparing an act of terrorism.
Any officer making an arrest for an offence under Section 58A must be able to demonstrate a reasonable suspicion that the information was, by its very nature, designed to provide practical assistance to a person committing or preparing an act of terrorism.
It would ordinarily be unlawful to use section 58A to arrest people photographing police officers in the course of normal policing activities, including protests because there would not normally be grounds for suspecting that the photographs were being taken to provide assistance to a terrorist. An arrest would only be lawful if an arresting officer had a reasonable suspicion that the photographs were being taken in order to provide practical assistance to a person committing or preparing an act of terrorism.
@@leathleyg5995 so after that rant we are still no closer to saying if taking a photo of a police station is against the law as this sergeant seems to think.
What most police seem to forget is that they are not a valuable target for a terrorist and their own codes of practice, namely 'terrorism act 2000 code of practice4.5.4which tells them not to jump to conclusions and leave photographers alone.
They just use terrorism as it's a power they can abuse and you cannot correlate a photographer with a terrorist
they seem unable to understand that some things don't have a sinister, clandestine undertone to them and are perfectly legitimate and lawful
And the Met claims they are short staffed.
Well done mate , keep exposing the waste and abuse by the police
I'm a huge fan of auditers, I think the police needs to be audited, but I also think some auditers are losing their way. You were too fired up mate here on this audit. You should cook them slow and give them time to incriminate themselves. You went from 0 to 60 in less than a sec pal.
Try a better approach, let them spell out all of the shit and then slowly correct them. All the best pal
Hmmmmm, not sure about that. Being polite does not guarantee that you will be treated well, as that can be seen as weakness by the Police.
The police have created a chasm that has become too wide to bridge, until a massive overhaul and a retraining program is put into place. There were two CPSOs who left because of the attitude of police officers toward the the public. They were well liked, helped towards getting a Community Centre, and encouraged the young teenagers to take up a more productive way to help help them later in life. Sad.
the wpc,s attitude absolutely stunk. and then the sarge giving you a unhealthy dose of copsplaining . . . . . . . .
Man with camera: 6 constables in 5 minutes. Door kicked down and house robbed: no-one available for 3 days. Such are the priorities, over-staffed police currently exist to protect the police, not the public
5 people filming boats at Dover have had injunction's served, telling them to stop filming...i think they are using the old stress, harm or harrassment
Or even harassed, alarmed or distressed.
@@beds139 I was close ...They want to stop people doing the legal activity of filming people doing an Illegal activity
@@budgetnuclearweapons7858 news now Scotland had an injunction
I love you videos .Mr plod.Please please keep up your fine work sir
It always starts from a random Karen sticking her nose in others business. Get rid of the Karens of this world and there should be some peace
Get rid of aisha s
"It is an offence to photograph a police station" No it is not.
Amazing video keep doing what you do excellence job
ALL Public employees must identify themselves when requested by a member of the public as they work for us.
I think there was a bit of miscommunication here. When initially talking about being "an auditor" I think the sergeant thought it was some sort of official audit. Obviously, he 'twigged' but for a while the conversation was on two different levels.
If only they were as quick to arrest politicians for their many crimes.