My exact thoughts! Had he said I hallucinated that a6 wins a piece for black, I panicked and played Qb3 while completely forgetting that my Bishop is hanging I would have believed him. Especially because he played a bunch of moves in that game that weren't top stock fish moves. But his answer as to why he played Qb3 just dig him even deeper.
Don’t forget when you made a bad move: Took long time: you took THAT LONG to think and you STILL HANGED A PIECE?!?! Took short time: THIS is why you should think before you move, THINK, *THINK*
He should have said I hallucinated that a6 wins a piece for black, I panicked and played Qb3 while completely forgetting that my Bishop is hanging. I would believe that explanation especially because he played a bunch of moves in that game that weren't top stock fish moves. But his answer as to why he played Qb3 just dig him even deeper.
I played many sacrifices in my life, but rarely did I play such a quiet move as a sacrifice, where I am not even sacrificing by smashing my piece into the opponents territory into the pawns in front of the king, I am not even leaving my piece hanging by moving forward. This sac wasn't like that, this is a backwards queen move which leaves a piece en prise, and it is a backwards move because you want to transfer your queen on another side of the board, I mean it is just ridiculous and it is not even like he had a lot of piece into the attack, the attack simply worked even without putting bunch of your pieces in the position to attack the enemy King. I played over 10k games, so I don't remember them all but I would not be surprised if I have never played a sacrifice like this.
Yeah but the kind of people that cheat like this do so because they are ridiculously narcissistic and want people to think they are just an incredible player. He submitted a game he cheated in because he wanted praise. These are the worst kinds of people. Then the next guy just made 2 accounts to play himself. And the next one was definitely just smurfing and botez gambiting like he thinks he's hikaru or something lol bunch of cornballs in the gte
@@DeadSezSo Praise means nothing if you know you didn't play the game legitimately. Praise only matters if it is for something that you have done. Even if he tricks others, he knows he didn't play the game legitimately. I don't buy your explanation. Maybe that's me projecting how I think on others but I don't see how others praising you would make you feel good if you know that they are praising you for something that you haven't actually done. If he wanted praise he would have sent some of the games that he played legitimately and that he played well (assuming he plays some games legitimately in the first place, if he doesn't then I don't know how he is rated only 1000).
Sometimes engines think that if you don't take it, after the "best line" the opponent would have a 0.1 advantage, as oppossed to forcing a draw on move 15 where it's an even zero. But why even play chess at that point?
@@pairot01 lmao if u could play at this level, u would play for money lol to be chess millionaire doing paid simuls against like 1000 ppl etc while being WC and all around champion and the only human who can compete with engines, you would be playing to be a millionaire dude. And don't even say u won't 🦝
@@MIDO44444 No 1000 would understand or grasp the concept of sacrificing the bishop to preserve a strong attack. I doubt they’re even sure that the bishop sac is good and calculate all those lines so intuitively for a lower rated player it’s best to play safe and retreat the bishop of course.
2:20 "The bishop pinned the queen to the king with no protection what so ever." Of course the bishop is against protection when the queen is pinned to the king. What would you expect?
There are other suspicions, but idk if it DOES feel like the biggest engine move - there are worse ones. As a 1600 rapid Qb3 feels risky at first glance with potentially interesting chances, because the black king already can't move back to f2, and exf5 opens up the g-file for the Queen, with potential gxf5 f4 Rg1 Qg3 threats. I might've spent time calculating it during a rapid game trying to see if I could make it work. That being said, I don't think I'd have gone through with it. The weird thing here is a 1000 seeing that, and if they actually did see it, they wouldn't be giving such a vague "activity/space" as an answer lol. And the juxtaposition of being able to play moves like Qb3 (and Ne5 in the opening), but then playing Bg5 instead of d6 potentially followed by f4 which was far more obvious and would have completely shut down the kingside and kept the King in the open.
@@Kernel15I'm a 1500, and I won't play Qb3. (Unless I accidentally hung my bishop) If I were to sacrifice my bishop, probably Rg1 instead of Qb3. Looks more interesting after exf4 gxf4, opening up the g file for the rook. (That is just from glancing the board.)
@@Abedchess That's definitely fair, but that being said, you're not doing anything with just a rook on the open g file. You'd still need another attacker over, and the Queen is the fastest
@@Kernel15 Yes, had he actually seen anything, he would have said I want to put my queen on the g file after my opponent accepts my Bishop sac. But even if he said that Levy would be like wtf an 1000s didn't just do that.
The recap at 17:06 shows Qb3 took almost 3 minutes. While the rest took significantly less. My man ran stockfish on 50 depth to find a 1 brilliant move in the game for content.
Winner takes 6-8 seconds on every move. Levy and commenters: Cheater! Winner takes almost 3 minutes and makes a good move. Levy and commenters: Cheater!
@@rosiefay7283 Lmao the every in the first one is rather important don't you think. Even when there is one legal move or one move that doesn't immediately hang your queen if you spend a couple seconds on it, the same as you spend on every move, you are cheating. Either you really are braindead or just intentionally are arguing in bad faith, couple seconds every move is cheating as fuck.
Dude I played a 2000 in a rapid tournament the other day who had me on the ropes for 30 moves (I'm 1500) and then just hung a rook in 1 move. I still lost because I was in huge time trouble but it just shows that even properly high rated players blunder badly from time to time.
"How good are you at endgame? Come on, rook all the way down you know it" White : makes the ideal move Gotham : *starts making aggressive primal satisfaction noises*
No 1000 rated player would play that move unless they had a deep understanding of the consequences that followed and there are a lot of interesting lines that had to be calculated. The actual reasoning itself is complicated so it’s funny when a cheater tries to articulate the reasoning behind their moves.
@@faznaz7455 Many 1000 rated players would play that move, not because it's a really strong move but because they would've forgotten that the bishop was under attack and tunnel visioned on attacking. His reasoning was what was sus as f
@@TromboneMaster95 exactly. Had he said “I forgor 💀” like a normal person, it wouldn’t have been Sus at all. It’s interesting that cheaters never try to make themselves look dumb, only trying to say “oh yeah I’m very smart” which puts them. Interesting stuff.
You should've seen my friend literally learning how pieces move against me, losing 10 games in a row and then play 3 games flawless all of the sudden 👀
Same thing with me. I was much better than this one person, but then they suddenly pulled out multiple flawless games in a row where I stood no chance. Im a 1600 lol. I am still suspicious
OMG .. that player who submitted his first game ever .. classic! His answer to why he improved shoulda been something like "I watched John Bartholomew's chess fundamentals series " lol
it sucks that everyone still thought the game was fake. it's probably the first time someone submitted their first game to guess the elo and no one believed him
I like how Twitch chat just constantly "taunts" youtube over not having music, when I can literally pull up any song recorded in human history and listen to it at any moment, because thankfully there is no music included in the video.
33:34 Carlsen vs Nakamura in Round 3 of the Zurich 2014. Nakamura had a winning position against Carlsen, blundered on move 37 with a pawn push that looked very powerful but gave away all the advantage, simplified to an endgame where Nakamura was up a Knight but down five Pawns, 6 to 1. It was too many Pawns and Nakamura lost, from a position where he was more than +8.
Every time Levy says "It's your favorite show on TH-cam," I for a half-second think, "Sweet, I love How to Lose at Chess," and then I remember I clicked on a Guess the Elo video.
I'm a 1500, and if I wanted to sacrifice my bishop, Rg1 looks more reasonable than Qb3 at a glance. I probably would never play Qb3 even if I wanted to sacrifice my bishop
@@kbk239 Yea I understand why Qb3 is reasonable. I'm just saying that purely looking at the position, the first move ( to sac the bishop) which comes to my mind is Rg1. I would probably have missed Qb3.
33:52 computer understands that BMimg your opponent by underpromoting is technically a better move than just making a queen, due to the psychological effects
Ratings really change between playing time limits. I hate when my opponents resign in a 5 minute game when they loose their Queen early. Hay there is lots of time for me to screw up and loose mine as well! I'm also used to loosing my queen so playing without one is normal for me. I will almost always trade Queens.
I once played my grandpa as a 600 and realised in the end that I capture no pawns despite being equal pieces. The amount of embarrassment I felt was immeasurable, later that day I won having one Pawn while he had 7 (never won again until I reached 1450)
I think the queen hang was a premove error. I know in bullet I often try to premove pawn recapture but instead end up premoving pawn forward one square lol
22:05 why would you resign here? Looks like a forced draw to me. Attack the knight with the king, then attack the bishop with the king when the knight moves. If the opponent's pawn gets too close, take it. If the opponent's king gets close enough to stop you from taking the knight, play c4, c5, cxb6+, win the bishop, Kb8, a8=Q just as your opponent promotes, and queen vs. queen is always a draw as long as you don't hang something. If the opponent takes your c-pawn it's stalemate. Edit: Never mind, apparently Nd7 just wins. I tried the position against stockfish, and Nd7 prevents the king from returning to b8, then the Black king and the knight can force you even farther from the bishop through zugzwang, and it's actually like -57. Still, I think it takes a lower rating to see the defense strategy I suggested than to see how to stop it, and in any case as long as you have a plan to try to swindle the game, you should still force your opponent to earn the win. Even when I'm dead lost, I usually only resign in two situations: 1) I'm pressed for time (as in I need to go do something else soon), don't see a way my opponent can blunder the win away and don't see a way that my opponent can end the game quickly, or 2) I don't have a plan, not even a "shuffle my king and hope to get stalemated" and continuing to play is no fun anymore. I really wish more people found checkmating people actually satisfying instead of getting insulted when the opponent doesn't resign. Like, I get it if you resign when you're down twenty pieces, but at the same time I find checkmating extremely satisfying, it's good endgame practice, and I figure if you didn't resign when you were dead lost and it was mate in two, why resign when it's mate in one?
To begin, I'm sorry if I've misunderstood your comment at any point. It took me some thought to understand. I think the move sequence that your first proposal is referring to is something like 1. Kc7 Nc4 2. Kb8 Nb6 3. [pass] Kd6 4. c4 d4 5. c5+ Kc6 6. cxb6 d3 7. Kxa8 d2 8. Kb8 d1=Q 9. a8=Q. This confused me for a few reasons: 1. I thought the idea was that Black would just loop their knight between c4 and b6, so it didn't seem like they'd have any time to move their king or their pawn. For it to work, I had to give them an extra move, hence the "[pass]". 2. When you say "taking the knight", I think you mean "attacking the knight". 3. I think you meant to attach the check symbol to the move c5, not cxb6. In the hypothetical line I provided after White passes their third move, Black has a winning advantage all the way until after their 6th move: - Move 3: 3... Kd8 4. c4 Nd7+ 5. Kxa8 Kc8 6. c5 d4 7. c6 Nb6# - Move 4: 4... Nd7+ gives White two options: 5. Kc8 dxc4 and Black promotes and wins, or 5. Kxa8 Kc7 followed by a similar mate as before. - Move 5: 5... Kxc5. This frees up c7, so it's not stalemate. Black promotes and wins. - Move 6: 6... Bb7; Now 7. a8=(any) is forced, and after 7... Bxa8 8. Kxa8 Kxb6, Black promotes and wins. To be fair, maybe that's not what you envisioned; Black's 5th move was up for interpretation, after all. For instance, if Black had played 5... Kd7 instead of 5... Kc6, that would've already been a draw, as the Bb7 trick wouldn't work. As for Nd7, I don't think that's zugzwang. Zugzwang is when a player whose turn it is would prefer to pass their move, but I don't think that applies to White here. Black can just play d4 and bring their bishop out so that it always has an eye on a8; then, their king and knight can win White's other pawn and assist in the promotion of the black pawn. I agree that playing for swindles is a good idea. "Never resign," as Levy puts it. Also, I can imagine it can be somewhat annoying when someone resigns one move from being mated, and I understand that. It can seem mildly bad-mannered, as it sorta implies that they were willing to resign but waited until the last possible moment to do so.
Cheater logic: “if I miss the free piece 5 moves in then it won’t be suspicious when I engine the end game! No one would find the Qa4 tactic! It would be far too suspicious! Hmmm…… a brilliant move…..?? This is gonna look great on Gotham chess they’ll think I’m so smart”
0:36 😮Todays video is brought to you by the square B-6 and the letter W. I Can't wait till Snuffleupagus and big bird tell us how the horsey moves. Tomorrow we go to the factory to learn how Crayons are made! 😮
19:23 This move actually isnt bad in this instance. White could've gone to b6 forking the rook and bishop, forcing black to move the rook to a7 because a6 is covered by the bishop. Then white plays d8 forking the queen and the rook and when the queen moves white takes the rook. So this could've been a brilliant move, although being 600 that probably wasn't going to be played.
Actually after Knight b6 black could’ve just take the bishop and after white take the rook it would be trapped in the corner. If white take c8 instead of rook then black play Qc7, again, trapping the Knight.
It really makes you wonder to what extent cheating is really an issue. It's going to be just like in shooter games, where you have the blatant wall hack/god mode/aim bot abusers but also the subtle hackers. The ones that tune up the aim assist a little bit. The ones that use a recoil control device. Someone could easily not use an engine to find moves, but to pre-move check if it's not a blunder/mistake before playing the move. How would they even detect that? They'd have to think you're just a pretty good player that doesn't blunder much. They often rationalisr it as "Well I'm just learning...".
I think qb3 was so they could play be6 kicking out the queen allowing them to push the pawn with protection from the bishop. I'm not an engine but that's the only situation in which I could determine it to make sense. Also this guy is an idiot, wanted to look good and goes it felt right, I would said "mouseslip", bro gave you an excuse. "Wanted to line up bishop and queen", "qb3, be6, pawn push." Anything but "it felt right".
The cheater guy explained his move like when the teacher calls on you and you haven’t read the book
He literally would’ve been fine if he just said “I hung it”
My exact thoughts!
Had he said I hallucinated that a6 wins a piece for black, I panicked and played Qb3 while completely forgetting that my Bishop is hanging I would have believed him. Especially because he played a bunch of moves in that game that weren't top stock fish moves. But his answer as to why he played Qb3 just dig him even deeper.
It's not like this stream is why he was banned, but he's a 1000 rated player, he definitely could've gotten away with a "got tunnel vision".
@@Kaanfight But then he wouldn't be able to take credit for the move, which is, i guess, what cheaters are after
@@smrtfasizmu6161 exactly. If he said "oh forgot I have a bishop" I would be like "same bro". But he defending the move is an instant tell
So glad b6 sponsored this! You're a very lucky man, Levy.
idk man a6 is much better than whatever b6 is
Yeah I'm really proud.
@@articuno_3168 nice job
@UCHOIgx-4gpcRelyjJJKQlxg welcome.
He wanted c6 tho
Very brave of that cheater to submit their cheating game to Gotham, who is known for hunting cheaters down and beating them with his bare fists.
You have bear fists?
Most newer players will say "it felt right" on moves that are weird af, a new player might really like a random battery
But I wouldn't have caught him cheating, the response is alot like most of the people I teach chess despite the insaneness of the move
That last game broke my heart. Checking with the wrong rook because there is no mate, you just have to sinplify to a winning endgame. Chess is brutal.
"This video is sponsored by b6" - seems like the sponsor has its best move
white at game 4 was just flexing with the queen sacrifice
Actually in the fourth game, the guy with white played the Botez Gambit :)
When i was 1500 strength i didnt know about en passant as no one told me till then.
5:12 Best chess reaction ever
4:55 you can’t make those noises and then say dominate the d file 😭
Why does he say en passant like that lmao😭😭
What's happening at 5:18 I hope he's using protection
7:32 My dude as a 1400 just played Bb5. Do you know how much time he spent on that move ... 5 seconds
Gotham sub: does literally anything
Levy: "This is how you know you are below the four digits"
Playing like a stupid international master
Im all for this type of joke, Levy can go crazy flagrant out of nowhere, so I’m on this train to make his random brutality a meme
@@HnTr_VDH he's just being dramatic for humors sake. I think he's quite funny 🤷
Don’t forget when you made a bad move:
Took long time: you took THAT LONG to think and you STILL HANGED A PIECE?!?!
Took short time: THIS is why you should think before you move, THINK, *THINK*
@@Firefly256 Exactly! In fact, Ithink I commented something similar in another GTE video
I need a super cut of Gotham saying “this is the worst game I’ve ever seen.”
It’s funny how each GTE episode contains one of the worst games Levy has ever seen in his life
@@nickjohnson8495 It keeps getting worse every episode
👍
Every game is worse than the last.
I want a supercut of him calling something a "gangster move".
If this guy just said he miscklicked no one would've thought they cheated lmao
Or if he said tunnel vision I would have believed it
He should have said I hallucinated that a6 wins a piece for black, I panicked and played Qb3 while completely forgetting that my Bishop is hanging. I would believe that explanation especially because he played a bunch of moves in that game that weren't top stock fish moves. But his answer as to why he played Qb3 just dig him even deeper.
I played many sacrifices in my life, but rarely did I play such a quiet move as a sacrifice, where I am not even sacrificing by smashing my piece into the opponents territory into the pawns in front of the king, I am not even leaving my piece hanging by moving forward. This sac wasn't like that, this is a backwards queen move which leaves a piece en prise, and it is a backwards move because you want to transfer your queen on another side of the board, I mean it is just ridiculous and it is not even like he had a lot of piece into the attack, the attack simply worked even without putting bunch of your pieces in the position to attack the enemy King. I played over 10k games, so I don't remember them all but I would not be surprised if I have never played a sacrifice like this.
Yeah but the kind of people that cheat like this do so because they are ridiculously narcissistic and want people to think they are just an incredible player. He submitted a game he cheated in because he wanted praise. These are the worst kinds of people. Then the next guy just made 2 accounts to play himself. And the next one was definitely just smurfing and botez gambiting like he thinks he's hikaru or something lol bunch of cornballs in the gte
@@DeadSezSo Praise means nothing if you know you didn't play the game legitimately. Praise only matters if it is for something that you have done. Even if he tricks others, he knows he didn't play the game legitimately. I don't buy your explanation. Maybe that's me projecting how I think on others but I don't see how others praising you would make you feel good if you know that they are praising you for something that you haven't actually done. If he wanted praise he would have sent some of the games that he played legitimately and that he played well (assuming he plays some games legitimately in the first place, if he doesn't then I don't know how he is rated only 1000).
Gotham:"NEVER take the white bishop here!"
Leela: "It's the best move though"
Sometimes engines think that if you don't take it, after the "best line" the opponent would have a 0.1 advantage, as oppossed to forcing a draw on move 15 where it's an even zero. But why even play chess at that point?
@@pairot01 lmao if u could play at this level, u would play for money lol to be chess millionaire doing paid simuls against like 1000 ppl etc while being WC and all around champion and the only human who can compete with engines, you would be playing to be a millionaire dude. And don't even say u won't 🦝
@@gaming2top759 This is what my dreams look like.
No, its the second best move
@@Whiter34 "um actually, it's the second best move ☝🤓"
You will never know how this got 4k likes💀
chess course?
I’ll have your entire stock.
B3 is better
Thank you.
Kings Indian or just fianchetto opening?
My favorite part: when that guy said "felt right because activity, space"
If I was him I would say it felt right but I didnt see the bishop hanging and that would be a good reason since that's a move I would play ngl
@@MIDO44444 i would say that i was trying to make a cannon on the diagonal and thought i hung a bishop
@@MIDO44444 No 1000 would understand or grasp the concept of sacrificing the bishop to preserve a strong attack. I doubt they’re even sure that the bishop sac is good and calculate all those lines so intuitively for a lower rated player it’s best to play safe and retreat the bishop of course.
@@faznaz7455 yeah but trying to make a strong attack and *overlooking* the bishop is a thing 1000s do
he should have said, time, pace and harmony then I would have believed him
Its nice to see Gotham get sponsored by moves that arent e4 or d4 once in a while
h4
Ahh yes b6 is the best sponsor for this vid and it also is a solid opening from one of our gotham fams !
Could you imagine cheating in low ELO and losing
It like losing in cod with aimbot
It’s like losing in a racing game even though you messed with the stats of the car and have an unfair advantage
It’s like losing a bedwars game with auto clicker
It’s like losing a boxing match with brass knuckles
it's like fishing on the ice for several hours just to not eat it
2:20 "The bishop pinned the queen to the king with no protection what so ever."
Of course the bishop is against protection when the queen is pinned to the king. What would you expect?
Hahahahaha underrated comment
@@joelovedaymusic8385 severely lmao
Brilliant xD
!! Stock fish gives this comment a +65 advantage
@@GolfClash2718 +69 actually
Levy- "I've never gone full screen in a Guess the Elo"
Also Levy- Goes full lscreen in just about every Guess The Elo
What do you think Lucy thinks levy is up to at 5:11… do you think she hears that and thinks “oh, he must be filming another guess the Elo!”
Yeah if there was a black screen here Id think he was watching something else
Qb3 in that position is the biggest engine move I've ever seen. "It felt right."
Yeah. Okay. LOL
There are other suspicions, but idk if it DOES feel like the biggest engine move - there are worse ones. As a 1600 rapid Qb3 feels risky at first glance with potentially interesting chances, because the black king already can't move back to f2, and exf5 opens up the g-file for the Queen, with potential gxf5 f4 Rg1 Qg3 threats. I might've spent time calculating it during a rapid game trying to see if I could make it work. That being said, I don't think I'd have gone through with it.
The weird thing here is a 1000 seeing that, and if they actually did see it, they wouldn't be giving such a vague "activity/space" as an answer lol. And the juxtaposition of being able to play moves like Qb3 (and Ne5 in the opening), but then playing Bg5 instead of d6 potentially followed by f4 which was far more obvious and would have completely shut down the kingside and kept the King in the open.
@@Kernel15I'm a 1500, and I won't play Qb3. (Unless I accidentally hung my bishop)
If I were to sacrifice my bishop, probably Rg1 instead of Qb3. Looks more interesting after exf4 gxf4, opening up the g file for the rook.
(That is just from glancing the board.)
@@Abedchess That's definitely fair, but that being said, you're not doing anything with just a rook on the open g file. You'd still need another attacker over, and the Queen is the fastest
@@Kernel15 Yes, had he actually seen anything, he would have said I want to put my queen on the g file after my opponent accepts my Bishop sac. But even if he said that Levy would be like wtf an 1000s didn't just do that.
@@smrtfasizmu6161 Yeah, a suspicious game overall. Felt either assisted or sandbagged
The recap at 17:06 shows Qb3 took almost 3 minutes. While the rest took significantly less.
My man ran stockfish on 50 depth to find a 1 brilliant move in the game for content.
this is the proof i was looking for, if played quickly then even if he tries to say he did it intentionally it was a mistake for sure
Winner takes 6-8 seconds on every move.
Levy and commenters: Cheater!
Winner takes almost 3 minutes and makes a good move.
Levy and commenters: Cheater!
@@rosiefay7283 Lmao the every in the first one is rather important don't you think. Even when there is one legal move or one move that doesn't immediately hang your queen if you spend a couple seconds on it, the same as you spend on every move, you are cheating. Either you really are braindead or just intentionally are arguing in bad faith, couple seconds every move is cheating as fuck.
@@rosiefay7283 both of the scenarios are sus.
@@MrQinchen I mean I have gone to the bathroom during a match
As a 1000 player I knew he was underestimating the crap out of that first game. 1300 players blunder full pieces all the time in 5 min games.
As a 1352 rapid, I can confirm 1300s blunder tactics.
Dawg I'm a 1700 I'm still blundering mates and bishops
Dude I played a 2000 in a rapid tournament the other day who had me on the ropes for 30 moves (I'm 1500) and then just hung a rook in 1 move. I still lost because I was in huge time trouble but it just shows that even properly high rated players blunder badly from time to time.
As a 1000 rated player, I agree with you. It's honesty pretty aggravating, watching him demean decently rated players. Not everyone is an IM.
@@ethangonzales5944 He demeans himself just as much as he does anyone else. That's just his style of humour.
"How good are you at endgame? Come on, rook all the way down you know it"
White : makes the ideal move
Gotham : *starts making aggressive primal satisfaction noises*
Brother?
Guess The Elo makes everyone's day better
why and how
@@meenasamaan481 hi mena
@@ColtBTD6 hi colt how are you? i got top 100% last race thanks to your guide!
Well except for the cheater
I can never escape Colt BTD6. They gets here before I do because of their race technique.
I’m so happy that B6 finally sponsored you man, congrats on being popular enough for them to reach out to you
i hope he starts a b6 giveaway!
@@thebestcasuallysame
3:15 This is actually theory. It's the mid game bongcloud.
Hikaru must be proud
the disrespect tho
That feeling when u wait 25 games, submit a game with what u think is a “legendary karpovian king walk”, and u basically get sh** on. Lol!
rip
They were drunk for sure, the person knew the game was terrible
I love how that guy just straight up outed himself by trying to defend Qb3 lol
No 1000 rated player would play that move unless they had a deep understanding of the consequences that followed and there are a lot of interesting lines that had to be calculated. The actual reasoning itself is complicated so it’s funny when a cheater tries to articulate the reasoning behind their moves.
He's a cheater, so the main thing he wants is attention and merit. He would have never said it was "luck".
@@faznaz7455 Many 1000 rated players would play that move, not because it's a really strong move but because they would've forgotten that the bishop was under attack and tunnel visioned on attacking. His reasoning was what was sus as f
but it seemed right! :^)
@@TromboneMaster95 exactly. Had he said “I forgor 💀” like a normal person, it wouldn’t have been Sus at all. It’s interesting that cheaters never try to make themselves look dumb, only trying to say “oh yeah I’m very smart” which puts them. Interesting stuff.
"You're used to finishing in 3 minutes" got me rolling lmao
I was just watching an older GTE in which you said no one has ever gotten banned because if GTE. Guess the streak is over 🤣
just played a game where my opponent resigned on turn 6 because he lost the center
LMAO
My opponent resigned early because he was premoving the opening and ended up hanging his bishop because of that
5:17 pretty sure Levy just came a little from that rook move, I mean, that noise from his reaction was a little too sus
You should've seen my friend literally learning how pieces move against me, losing 10 games in a row and then play 3 games flawless all of the sudden 👀
Same thing with me. I was much better than this one person, but then they suddenly pulled out multiple flawless games in a row where I stood no chance. Im a 1600 lol. I am still suspicious
was it online or onboard?
@@xooox_1777 online. Cheating in an offline game without me noticing would be pretty impressive
@@yannick2075 oh then pretty sus, does he have like a mild delay? because bots sometimes take time to make a move
@@xooox_1777 i guess so, but he was definitely cheating. Played again some time ago and he'd start blundering pieces for nothing again :P
5:25 chess when your parents walk into the room
“Never want to do this again”.. 40 episodes later😂
OMG .. that player who submitted his first game ever .. classic!
His answer to why he improved shoulda been something like "I watched John Bartholomew's chess fundamentals series " lol
I bought the anish giri course
it sucks that everyone still thought the game was fake. it's probably the first time someone submitted their first game to guess the elo and no one believed him
my favorite quote:
"This move is sponsored by, b6"
Levy Rosman 2022
I like how Twitch chat just constantly "taunts" youtube over not having music, when I can literally pull up any song recorded in human history and listen to it at any moment, because thankfully there is no music included in the video.
Congrats for being a GM officially Levy, you deserved it. Thanks for your vids as well, i just had my longest winning streak which was 14.
April fool's day is over man XD
"I guess you're used to finishing in less than 3 minutes but come on." Ouch.
Parents: Are you still watching Netflix
Someone's daughter: 4:59, 5:11
"maybe both sets of parents shouldve used protection"
33:34 Carlsen vs Nakamura in Round 3 of the Zurich 2014. Nakamura had a winning position against Carlsen, blundered on move 37 with a pawn push that looked very powerful but gave away all the advantage, simplified to an endgame where Nakamura was up a Knight but down five Pawns, 6 to 1. It was too many Pawns and Nakamura lost, from a position where he was more than +8.
Levy from previous vid: I'm a GM now
Levy in this vid: I'm an IM
Oof, tragic.
Stream recorded before he was granted the title lmao
@@kingkrispy5289 he's not a gm lmfao
@@tito9107 exactly :trollge:
@@kingkrispy5289 r/sharksaresmooth
@@tito9107 don’t you reddit me
Every time Levy says "It's your favorite show on TH-cam," I for a half-second think, "Sweet, I love How to Lose at Chess," and then I remember I clicked on a Guess the Elo video.
Same
Levy is the Gordon Ramsey of the chess world in these videos.
these cheaters are everywhere. if only we had some kind of dark knight who could bring them to justice...
*cue Hanz Zimmer*
Such as that guy from Gotham City?
Batmen
To defend gotham city chess boards
you have b8 and g8 for that lul
I'm starting to think being shown on Levy's stream is a deathwish.
"I guess you're used to finishing in 3 minutes" how did he know 😔
"Maybe both kings should use protection"
I love the guy at 16:31 who happens to have the username Waterphall
"you called?" lmfao i'm glad someone noticed that
20:45 Can't. Stop. Laughing. Gotham Chess in real time, killing it/me
OMG b6 sponsored Gotham
I love b6! Its the first move in the e6 b6 course which is very helpful.
"I thought Qb3 was a nice move" I want to slap that guy he didn't even understand that is was to open the g file hahaahaha
I'm a 1500, and if I wanted to sacrifice my bishop, Rg1 looks more reasonable than Qb3 at a glance.
I probably would never play Qb3 even if I wanted to sacrifice my bishop
@@Abedchess Qb3 is reasonable because you want your queen to get on g3
@@kbk239 Yea I understand why Qb3 is reasonable.
I'm just saying that purely looking at the position, the first move ( to sac the bishop) which comes to my mind is Rg1.
I would probably have missed Qb3.
@@kbk239 i.e Rg1 is more intuitive than Qb3.
Even though Qb3 is objectively better, Qb3 is harder to see than Rg1.
13:40 Gotham: Hates the move because it hangs a bishop Stockfish: Its literally best move
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8:35 The camera isn't tilted, it's Levy that's tilted... Haha
I love how this video is sponsored by a move
33:52 computer understands that BMimg your opponent by underpromoting is technically a better move than just making a queen, due to the psychological effects
Ratings really change between playing time limits. I hate when my opponents resign in a 5 minute game when they loose their Queen early. Hay there is lots of time for me to screw up and loose mine as well! I'm also used to loosing my queen so playing without one is normal for me. I will almost always trade Queens.
3:40 im 1600 and would move the queen without a 2nd thought
Im 1900 and would do the same
@@BlackPandaz420 so appearantly under 1000 would not see the queen attack while above 2000 would be the one who block with a pawn
Jesus loves you, man. Jesus wants you to have a relationship with him, and wants you to come to repentance (Luke 13:5).
SAME BRO
I know Levy says some outrageous things but 2:20 was on another level 😂
35:56 was crazy too 😂
4:58 when he said that i felt it
That final game reminds me of myself so much xD
I win super hard but then blunder something major and barely draw
I once played my grandpa as a 600 and realised in the end that I capture no pawns despite being equal pieces. The amount of embarrassment I felt was immeasurable, later that day I won having one Pawn while he had 7 (never won again until I reached 1450)
I think the queen hang was a premove error. I know in bullet I often try to premove pawn recapture but instead end up premoving pawn forward one square lol
Good point. 👍
I was so convinced it's Hikaru during the Botez Gambit speedrun. 😁
212th day of translating Levy's titles into Neapolitan: "Nu 'mbruglion e indovin l'elo bannat"
oh wow
22:05 why would you resign here? Looks like a forced draw to me. Attack the knight with the king, then attack the bishop with the king when the knight moves. If the opponent's pawn gets too close, take it. If the opponent's king gets close enough to stop you from taking the knight, play c4, c5, cxb6+, win the bishop, Kb8, a8=Q just as your opponent promotes, and queen vs. queen is always a draw as long as you don't hang something. If the opponent takes your c-pawn it's stalemate.
Edit: Never mind, apparently Nd7 just wins. I tried the position against stockfish, and Nd7 prevents the king from returning to b8, then the Black king and the knight can force you even farther from the bishop through zugzwang, and it's actually like -57. Still, I think it takes a lower rating to see the defense strategy I suggested than to see how to stop it, and in any case as long as you have a plan to try to swindle the game, you should still force your opponent to earn the win. Even when I'm dead lost, I usually only resign in two situations: 1) I'm pressed for time (as in I need to go do something else soon), don't see a way my opponent can blunder the win away and don't see a way that my opponent can end the game quickly, or 2) I don't have a plan, not even a "shuffle my king and hope to get stalemated" and continuing to play is no fun anymore.
I really wish more people found checkmating people actually satisfying instead of getting insulted when the opponent doesn't resign. Like, I get it if you resign when you're down twenty pieces, but at the same time I find checkmating extremely satisfying, it's good endgame practice, and I figure if you didn't resign when you were dead lost and it was mate in two, why resign when it's mate in one?
To begin, I'm sorry if I've misunderstood your comment at any point. It took me some thought to understand.
I think the move sequence that your first proposal is referring to is something like 1. Kc7 Nc4 2. Kb8 Nb6 3. [pass] Kd6 4. c4 d4 5. c5+ Kc6 6. cxb6 d3 7. Kxa8 d2 8. Kb8 d1=Q 9. a8=Q. This confused me for a few reasons:
1. I thought the idea was that Black would just loop their knight between c4 and b6, so it didn't seem like they'd have any time to move their king or their pawn. For it to work, I had to give them an extra move, hence the "[pass]".
2. When you say "taking the knight", I think you mean "attacking the knight".
3. I think you meant to attach the check symbol to the move c5, not cxb6.
In the hypothetical line I provided after White passes their third move, Black has a winning advantage all the way until after their 6th move:
- Move 3: 3... Kd8 4. c4 Nd7+ 5. Kxa8 Kc8 6. c5 d4 7. c6 Nb6#
- Move 4: 4... Nd7+ gives White two options: 5. Kc8 dxc4 and Black promotes and wins, or 5. Kxa8 Kc7 followed by a similar mate as before.
- Move 5: 5... Kxc5. This frees up c7, so it's not stalemate. Black promotes and wins.
- Move 6: 6... Bb7; Now 7. a8=(any) is forced, and after 7... Bxa8 8. Kxa8 Kxb6, Black promotes and wins.
To be fair, maybe that's not what you envisioned; Black's 5th move was up for interpretation, after all. For instance, if Black had played 5... Kd7 instead of 5... Kc6, that would've already been a draw, as the Bb7 trick wouldn't work.
As for Nd7, I don't think that's zugzwang. Zugzwang is when a player whose turn it is would prefer to pass their move, but I don't think that applies to White here. Black can just play d4 and bring their bishop out so that it always has an eye on a8; then, their king and knight can win White's other pawn and assist in the promotion of the black pawn.
I agree that playing for swindles is a good idea. "Never resign," as Levy puts it. Also, I can imagine it can be somewhat annoying when someone resigns one move from being mated, and I understand that. It can seem mildly bad-mannered, as it sorta implies that they were willing to resign but waited until the last possible moment to do so.
12:12 i laughed more than i should
Thumbnail spoiled the cheated game :(
41 full episodes and we finally have a cheater. That's... pretty good actually.
Also sponsored by B6! Basics?
Stop doing these videos. Remember Dewas Kipa? U know how this will end for you...
My chess skills improved during the COVID pandemic just by watching your videos and applying the concepts in my games. Thank you so much!
Cheater logic: “if I miss the free piece 5 moves in then it won’t be suspicious when I engine the end game! No one would find the Qa4 tactic! It would be far too suspicious! Hmmm…… a brilliant move…..?? This is gonna look great on Gotham chess they’ll think I’m so smart”
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imagine submitting a game you cheated in kekw.. the stupidity of cheaters really is infinite.
Cheater+Guess the Elo???? Algorithm stonks.
My only complaint is that Magnus or Hikaru isn't in the title...
_MAGNUS_ *CHEATED* on _HIKARU_ in _THE LAST EVER_ *GUESS THE ELO!!!!*
Algorithm stonks.
@@Thebiggestgordon YESS
@@Thebiggestgordon You should get hired for titles;)
Cheater game at 8:42 and explanation at 17:45
found your comment finally ty
Thanks
The third game made me laugh a lot!! Even if it was fake I laughed!!
All the cheater needed to say was that he didn't see that their bishop was hanging. It's 100% believable. What a goof.
0:36 😮Todays video is brought to you by the square B-6 and the letter W.
I Can't wait till Snuffleupagus and big bird tell us how the horsey moves.
Tomorrow we go to the factory to learn how Crayons are made! 😮
Aaaand this video is sponsored by B6
Well, we know that the first game was not the one where someone was cheating.
19:23 This move actually isnt bad in this instance. White could've gone to b6 forking the rook and bishop, forcing black to move the rook to a7 because a6 is covered by the bishop. Then white plays d8 forking the queen and the rook and when the queen moves white takes the rook. So this could've been a brilliant move, although being 600 that probably wasn't going to be played.
Actually after Knight b6 black could’ve just take the bishop and after white take the rook it would be trapped in the corner. If white take c8 instead of rook then black play Qc7, again, trapping the Knight.
I saw all that
6:49 you are still an IM though
😅😆
15:46 another evidence
I’m stuck on a 12 hour weekend shift at work. Thank you for content!
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Round of applause for b6 for sponsoring this vid. They killed it
It really makes you wonder to what extent cheating is really an issue. It's going to be just like in shooter games, where you have the blatant wall hack/god mode/aim bot abusers but also the subtle hackers. The ones that tune up the aim assist a little bit. The ones that use a recoil control device. Someone could easily not use an engine to find moves, but to pre-move check if it's not a blunder/mistake before playing the move. How would they even detect that? They'd have to think you're just a pretty good player that doesn't blunder much. They often rationalisr it as "Well I'm just learning...".
Whenever I lose a game, I watch one of these to remember that my game was not this bad. Thank you, gotham!
24:44 Im totally offended
I need to submit one of my funniest games against my friend, we played against each other 6 times and he accidentally blundered the queen every time
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Nice one dude 😂
Game 3 I laughed soo much at hanging rooks the other way.
top engine lines
I think qb3 was so they could play be6 kicking out the queen allowing them to push the pawn with protection from the bishop. I'm not an engine but that's the only situation in which I could determine it to make sense. Also this guy is an idiot, wanted to look good and goes it felt right, I would said "mouseslip", bro gave you an excuse. "Wanted to line up bishop and queen", "qb3, be6, pawn push." Anything but "it felt right".