Killing something with black arrow should spawn a skeleton minion. True to the lore of its origin in Warcraft 3. Even if the minion had no hp and died instantly, it would still be cool.
Crackling Jade Lightning after TFT got a 12500% damage increase. Doubled the damage increased by 1000%, so 2000% increase. 25% faster tick rate, so we're at 2500%. x5 targets = 12500% damage increase. And it still won't be insanely broken. That's how bad it was before.
How much is 1000% of nothing? Haha of course I'm exaggerating, but the current damage is simply irrelevant. On the PTR, I tested it with conque equipment on a pvp dumme And I managed to cause an average of 1.4M damage. Since the dumme has no versa and no damage mitigation talents. I believe that in real pvp it will be around 1M and the average life of the players will be 7M. And this is after all the channeling is a DOT and can only occur once every 30sec.
@@clauslarsen8971 It's definitely an excellent buff! It will help a lot. This, along with all the other buffs, could even put MW back in the competitive game.
The problem is, if they're 100% going to go through with letting these classes uses Dracthyr abilities like that, then they need to revamp and BUFF every single other race in the game, and make the buff actually noticeable too not just cosmetic or for fun.
44:26 So now outlaws we are gonna get 3 charges of GH (including the one with Fatebound talent) but no Shadowstep, guess is fine. Crackshoot reseting BtE make the burst window less demanding too, but no mention to the bug that sometimes cause that BtE don't trigger when pressed outside of Subterfuge window.
i mean having the dispel protection in the normal tree is nice, since it does not take up a pvp talent. and it might be some m+ affix or raid boss that dispels hots :D
Tail Swipe and Wing Buffet will definitely be removed as racials before season 2, supposing they even go live like that or will be destroyed by adding a cast time to them. These two as racials are beyond broken in mythic+, a mage with up to 7 ways to interrupt a cast within the same pull is insane. If they leave them like this everybody running high keys will race swap to draktyr.
But u already have tauren, yet they're not picked? From what ive read the 5 target cap just screws with DRs more than anything. Why would dracthyr be any different? Sure u have 2 aoe cc but they're both on 3 min cd. So in 6 min u can use 4x of em, and since tauren has 1.5 min cd, on 6 mins u can also use 4x tauren stun. So its the same amount of cc over a 6 min period. All they gotta do is add a 5 target cap to dractyr's racials.
so, auto Sac is a choice node with the other dispel poison and desease so none will choose auto sac the other 1 is way better, so its turn evil instant cast or aoe fear u choose, steed of freedom is a choice node with blessing of freedom itself so i dun rly know if everyone will choose that, Empyreal ward was already an old pvp talent they just swap position. Actually Eye for an Eye doesnt work in pvp (ptr) actually Templar sacrosanct crusade still bugged and doesnt work properly. alot of thoose new talents gona be totally ignored cause lack of total skill points. Btw thoose r great changes the one i think will be the most important will be forberance 10 sec reduction, maybe 10% stun reduction if u dont have to give up some other key talents and eye for an eye would be fine if they will fix it.
Fat rogue sub rogue nerfs. I mainly use thistle tea for mastery and having it automatically used is not good. They already nerfed kidney shot and now the CDR.
dude flag got 1 min from 1.5, you'll burst every min instead of 2 mins (90 secs with dust). sub got buffed gigantically actually, it's highly to be very good for m+ when those come live
the rogue changes are mostly ass good players dont want thistle tea to automatically trigger, at least for sub you no longer pick it because of +2 symbols of death charges, but at what cost? No more invigorating shadowdust and no more sepsis are big hits for PvP (sepsis for gap closing, shadowdust for cooldown reduction) also no more healing from shadowdance at least you no longer have to click slice and dice, you no longer refresh it, you gain duration from eviscerate etc
Yea i think they might have gutted sub with the shadow dust. Going to be sitting half the dungeon, raid boss and half the arena just pushing backstab… having 3 symbols is huge but not when we suddenly don’t have dances to use it with… removing our main sustainability as well will be felt hard.
Can blame Pika and Trill for the Rogue nerfs. They are ALWAYS getting nerfed which is why I don't play Rogue anymore when it was my main during BC / Wrath.
Ret just had a rework not long ago. Unless they are turning paladin into a support class, it just seems like a waste to me. Of course boomkin is getting another 40 changes while they pretend that guardian druid doesn't exist. Meh.
SURE! Yeah! Ret had a REWORK, and they turned it into dog shit with in 3 - 4 weeks, and Holy Paladin isn't even viable now after they fucked that up too. The mana is useless.
BM changes are really really good plus dark ranger looks exciting to play only thing id question is why every 4th cast of beastial wrath we get the proc? make it abit weaker and proc everytime please blizz it looks way too cool not to lol
Holy shit Blizzard went nuts. It's clear that this was supposed to be read for the release of TWW but it wasn't so they delayed it until the first big patch. Hunters and Boomies NEEDED those reworks. Paladins not really but I'll take it. What this does is make me want to make a Hunter, Druid and Paladin ASAP and that's exactly what I'm about to do once I max out my 80 SPriest.
ret's literally getting proper fixes, everything they got for ret specifically is support buffs, and im cool with it, they aren't the best dps which is 100% fine. But getting cc'd into the dirt by every class in the game drove lots of players away form the calss. only issue is balancing damage, they are a proc class, so if you get lucky you nuke, if you don't well you are useless. I understand the complaints from both sides though, but we all know they will be nerfed 2 weeks into the season haha.
Ele shaman indeed got gutted. I love how he complained about the Lava Burst build being 3 buttons when it was so much fun to play, I loved seeing all the Lava Bursts constantly spewing out, and now instead its a 1 MAYBE 2 button spec that just spams lightning bolt and presses Storm elemental. Like literally my rotation in dungeons rn is Stormkeeper, Lightning elemental, Lightning bolt, Lightning bolt, Lightning bolt, Lightning bolt, Lightning bolt, repeat and throw in a Earth Shock or Earthquake here and there (sub in Chain Lightning for Lightning bolt in AOE pulls). They basically gutted any reason to press Lava Burst or most other buttons because it is such a small amount of damage and not even worth it when you can just press Chain Lightning for MORE damage. Not to mention I can't even use MY HERO TALENT ABILITY WHICH IS A MAJOR POINT OF THE EXPANSION sometimes because I can't use 300 maelstrom before everything flops over (and that they soft capped it only slightly buffed its damage). I don't really see Ascendence being THAT big because you only get 1 AOE Lava Burst with Primordial wave now so at most its only 2 casts of AOE Lava Burst, not to mention they're removing no CD Lava Burst in that patch, and then again you can literally just spam Chain lightning for more damage.
I don't like how they made, like, 8 talents that synergise with elemental pet, then they remove skybreaker so it's a huge nerf to all those talents. Blizzard went from "you can choose to play lightning or fire or a mix of both" to play lightning or f**k off. I just hope if ele ends up sucking after the patch they won't wait entire season to buff them.
All I want for WW and BM monk: remove the cast from [chi-burst], I hate it so much. It takes you out of the flow of rotation, and just feels so bad to press.
I'm excited to roll a Dracthyr Warrior. Not for jump glide, but to be a dragon running people down and physically beating them down. Warlock is kinda weird on that race though.
It's so tempting to make my rogue a Dracthyr for PVP. It's gonna be so wild. Hopefully blizzard see's how strong it is and does what's right and just removes racials from instanced PVP already.
Tauren has stun cc on 1.5 min cd. Dracthyr has 2 cc on 3 min cd. So in 6 min, dractyr use 4 times their cc. In 6 min, tauren uses his 1.5 min stun 4 times. So both have same amount of cc over a 6 min period. Tauren gain 2% crit healing/dmg and dractyr gain 2.5% mastery. They're basically equal, nelf is still better prob.
The survival changes look good for pack leader, not so much for sentinel. With no way to reduce butchery cool down symphonic arsenal is going to be even more garbage, only pack leader can reduce its cool down.
Wtf are you talking about? Did you read the notes? Most of these changes are straight stink. They also didn't address any of the things you're complaining about
2x symbols of death is not even a buff.. if a fight drags out.. and you get to 0 charges.. only 1 will recharge... so having 1 or 2 makes no difference once a fight is longer.. you wont get more overall dmg.. the only cool thing about playing rogue. was the choice.. do i want to vanish offensively or defensively... that is gone.. i rather they removed the 1 extra vanish... shadowdust is fun.. 2 vanish is dumb.. :D now we got 2 vanish that does nothing.. i rather have 1 that does something
Honestly speaking, it shall happen during BETA testing. Huge class changing means there were several plans which await players to test. Then developers collect all feeback and make determination to allow which plan going live. Not like this and it reminds me of what happened to expansion WOD, idiot stockholders' opinions affect team to shorten patch's duration or change game roadmap.
These devs clearly do not want Ele shamans to actually cast lightning bolts it seems. Taking off the 0.25s casttime reduction without any compensation from that will turn Stormbringer into a pure pve option and playing with lightning damage will be relagated to only be used in combination with Stormkeeper every minute. It is already almost impossible to play this spec in pvp and now with that gone and also volcanic surge gone, it will be almost no use to ever try this in a pvp setting. These devs are pure garbage.
Keeper of the grove is going to be amazing now. He didn’t read the part saying warrior of elune now has a connection to force of nature meaning free dream bursts.
Absolutely breaking pvp again and again to the point that you are almost forced to pay for a race re-roll or keep paying that sub to level another toon. MMO's are virtually impossible to completely balance, BUT it would be nice if they tried (pvp)
As a former rogue main I feel you. They could atleast add more cool LOOKING shit we're not asking for some op one shot shit but the hero talents for us have been so underwhelming on top of terrible game play.
@@mexcellent227 I'm also a former Rogue main from BC / Wrath, Switch to DH when I returned because it has about the same amount of key bindings as Old Sub / Combat / Ass Rogue back in the day. When I returned to DF I was just so sick and tired of all the damn macros I needed. Rogue felt like shit if I'm being honest.
Im sick of fire mages getting shit on dude. The worst dps in the game right now and we get 0 buffs. 0. Completely ass. My pyros shouldnt hit for barely more than my fireballs.
The paly buff can only mean one thing. The pvp dev played a game of solo que. He must of lost look at the ret cds and said why didn't sac me. The dev was like you know what il make it auto to help this noobs.
They actually fixed the bugs that was holding back 35% damage and some mitigation bugs as well. See LVladen he found all of them so I bet Ret is going to hit a bit harder.
Bro wtf they are killing my fire mage in front of my eyes and very slowly.... if you see a fire mage in M+ or BG you know they've got no idea what they doing with their life feel so sad for the fire mage since BFA i feel like they getting fck up
Yeah I don't know what that means exactly. :D I started to read and I was like....hm....better be an improvement. The talent was basically a nerfed UA hot. :D Now its more like "you dispelled my hot? Here you go! more hots!" Fuckin lazy developement imho. :D
Imagine wanting to class restrict a race because of the least played fucking content......that would be PVP boiz! Dont balance raids around the 1% and dont balance class/Race combos based on PVP. Period.
To keep someone in combat and to knock them back, which is actually very OP and used very frequently in Rbgs and often times a game changer/game winner.
@@Kanoog In this case I'm confident because from what I tested on the ptr, it's not op. It's just good. For example, disc priest and evoker pres cause much more damage than mw even with the changes.
@@xlightninghawk6360 Dude, out of every 10 arenas, none of them showed up MW.... What are you talking about? If you're talking about BG, ok, in BG monk was always god. But BG doesn't matter. It's not competitive, there's no championship, No mount.... Whenever we talk about pvp, we talk about 3v3.
I feel like you need a doctorate degree in stats and stack building now with how insane wow has become.. cast this get 3 stacks proc'ing this which gives 5 stacks with a dot stacking an additional 10x when casting that.. like wtf man lol
ele sham is way more than 3 buttons. i just came back after many many years to try retail again because i heard ele is fun again and, naturally, they immediately gut the thing. these people are so bad at logic.and, yes, ele is gutted. ascendance is completely screwed after this(no refresh, less up-time(15 from 18 sec), still 3min cd, why the f does ascendance need to flame shock, lb 6 nearby enemies because that's how a ranged caster plays??? why would earth shock ever have anything to do with proc'ing your lava burst ability? nothing makes sense except "ele was to close to being great in pve"
Take the cooldown off shadow crash just like blizzard. Shadow priest aoe is so bad. Tanks struggle to stack the overloaded caster mobs in these new dungeons, and i struggle to get a decent shadow crash off. The class has been terrible to play since insanity became a thing, and they won't change it ever
These devs definitely destroy the game. At this point they should delete Rogue after another HUGE nerf coming cuz we'll either uninstall or head back to Classic. They've tampered with the class and the spec so heavily with continuous changes and CRITICAL ones. Kidney shot and Gouge nerfed, whole class revamp just in DF, another REVAMP of SUB an expansion ago, and now they re removing Invigorating Shadowdusts which is the most crucial talent to SUB Rogue for reducing cooldownds.
Crazy to think that as soon as i quit ret pally in shadow lands they get buffed and reworked in dragon flight. Then i play beast mastery right now and they are the worst class in pvp right now. What the actual fuck
@@SeemsLikeSomething fuck no I’m not remaking one. I deleted him lol. Relvling in wow is so boring i just can’t. Dungeon spamming till 70 is like tea begging hot coals
Death Knight - 2:35
Demon Hunter - 5:01
Druid - 5:42
Evoker - 10:54
Hunter - 11:28
Mage - 20:36
Monk - 25:11
Paladin - 30:56
Priest - 43:23
Rogue - 44:22
Shaman - 47:00
Warlock - 1:03:32
Warrior - 1:04:38
Legend
Can easily just scroll on the bar.... BUT I have to remember, people are lazy by nature.
41 seconds on dh nice
@@Kanoog when i made this post, annotations were not setup yet D:
Thankyou
Wish Evoker could be a different race. I hate looking at them.
i doubt it will ever be,considering the race is also the class,a dractyr can be a warrior but i dont think a human can ever learn to spit fire
@@deenman23explain mage casting dragon breath then. Checkmate
@@masonbarnes48 he farts it
@@deenman23 okay then well explain that one old brewmaster monk spell where they spit fire from their mouths. Checkmate.
@@apsoul6547 thats actualy with alcohool,people can do it in real life
As a Warlock, I am upset... buff my Chaos bolts... not a fan of this rot spam on destruction
Yeah, wtf, i hate how they have fucked the spec man, like wtf these bitches doing, destro lock is all about big meatballs bro
Boooooo
Killing something with black arrow should spawn a skeleton minion. True to the lore of its origin in Warcraft 3. Even if the minion had no hp and died instantly, it would still be cool.
Extra lag
Crackling Jade Lightning after TFT got a 12500% damage increase. Doubled the damage increased by 1000%, so 2000% increase. 25% faster tick rate, so we're at 2500%. x5 targets = 12500% damage increase. And it still won't be insanely broken. That's how bad it was before.
How much is 1000% of nothing? Haha of course I'm exaggerating, but the current damage is simply irrelevant. On the PTR, I tested it with conque equipment on a pvp dumme And I managed to cause an average of 1.4M damage. Since the dumme has no versa and no damage mitigation talents. I believe that in real pvp it will be around 1M and the average life of the players will be 7M. And this is after all the channeling is a DOT and can only occur once every 30sec.
@@danedilrlsbx it's way more than we have now. Can at least assist kills
@@clauslarsen8971 It's definitely an excellent buff! It will help a lot. This, along with all the other buffs, could even put MW back in the competitive game.
@@danedilrlsbxmw still the worst healer in the game..what a surprise
I love how hard Ven is pretending to be happy about paladin changes while ya just know his soul is melting behind that facade.
Retail is shit.
Pallys getting a nerf... woo everyone we love it. lol sheep.
You really gonna call people sheeple over a video game? That is both cringe and stupid and you should feel both @jkotarsky
@@jkotarsky What...? Did you watch the video?
@@jkotarsky why are you still watching bro do something else with your life aahahaha
The problem is, if they're 100% going to go through with letting these classes uses Dracthyr abilities like that, then they need to revamp and BUFF every single other race in the game, and make the buff actually noticeable too not just cosmetic or for fun.
you know they won't do that lol
44:26 So now outlaws we are gonna get 3 charges of GH (including the one with Fatebound talent) but no Shadowstep, guess is fine. Crackshoot reseting BtE make the burst window less demanding too, but no mention to the bug that sometimes cause that BtE don't trigger when pressed outside of Subterfuge window.
i mean having the dispel protection in the normal tree is nice, since it does not take up a pvp talent. and it might be some m+ affix or raid boss that dispels hots :D
All these changes and Warrior still can't move with Demolish
Tail Swipe and Wing Buffet will definitely be removed as racials before season 2, supposing they even go live like that or will be destroyed by adding a cast time to them. These two as racials are beyond broken in mythic+, a mage with up to 7 ways to interrupt a cast within the same pull is insane. If they leave them like this everybody running high keys will race swap to draktyr.
stops dont matter as much anymore,the mob will just start casting again
But u already have tauren, yet they're not picked? From what ive read the 5 target cap just screws with DRs more than anything. Why would dracthyr be any different? Sure u have 2 aoe cc but they're both on 3 min cd. So in 6 min u can use 4x of em, and since tauren has 1.5 min cd, on 6 mins u can also use 4x tauren stun. So its the same amount of cc over a 6 min period. All they gotta do is add a 5 target cap to dractyr's racials.
We only care about PvP here my boy
Crackling Jade lightning was so bad i didnt even have it on my ability bars
No kidding on the fairy tale, just woke up, saw this vid on my subscripts and made some toast, you're my morning news Ven.
You're so right about Ele. Ele has been the same for so long now. It needs a rework and this isn't even a full rework. It's a nice change though.
Starting wow for the first time tonight. Finally have pc
so, auto Sac is a choice node with the other dispel poison and desease so none will choose auto sac the other 1 is way better, so its turn evil instant cast or aoe fear u choose, steed of freedom is a choice node with blessing of freedom itself so i dun rly know if everyone will choose that, Empyreal ward was already an old pvp talent they just swap position. Actually Eye for an Eye doesnt work in pvp (ptr) actually Templar sacrosanct crusade still bugged and doesnt work properly. alot of thoose new talents gona be totally ignored cause lack of total skill points. Btw thoose r great changes the one i think will be the most important will be forberance 10 sec reduction, maybe 10% stun reduction if u dont have to give up some other key talents and eye for an eye would be fine if they will fix it.
it doesnt matter what the choce node it,the choice node could say ''reduce the healing you do by 30%'',you would still never pick an auto sac lol
Fat rogue sub rogue nerfs. I mainly use thistle tea for mastery and having it automatically used is not good. They already nerfed kidney shot and now the CDR.
The only people crying are other rogues and the mages you play RMP with, lol
@@Kurnhelios When was the last time RMP even won an AWC?
@@Kurnhelios lmao they buffed assassination so rogues will just play that. RMP lives on
dude flag got 1 min from 1.5, you'll burst every min instead of 2 mins (90 secs with dust). sub got buffed gigantically actually, it's highly to be very good for m+ when those come live
Ele isn't a Lava Burst spec atm. You play the Lightning build because Lava Burst is such a weak spell. It's almost not worth pressing it.
Venruki is 100% the reason why Sub is always getting nerfed
As a mage your not going to like the rng of gettin 8 aimed shots to the dome lol
Time to level the old pally
If you're Holy then I would hold off, I have a suspicion that they will remain B Tier at best.
the rogue changes are mostly ass
good players dont want thistle tea to automatically trigger, at least for sub you no longer pick it because of +2 symbols of death charges, but at what cost?
No more invigorating shadowdust and no more sepsis are big hits for PvP (sepsis for gap closing, shadowdust for cooldown reduction)
also no more healing from shadowdance
at least you no longer have to click slice and dice, you no longer refresh it, you gain duration from eviscerate etc
Yea i think they might have gutted sub with the shadow dust. Going to be sitting half the dungeon, raid boss and half the arena just pushing backstab… having 3 symbols is huge but not when we suddenly don’t have dances to use it with… removing our main sustainability as well will be felt hard.
Can blame Pika and Trill for the Rogue nerfs. They are ALWAYS getting nerfed which is why I don't play Rogue anymore when it was my main during BC / Wrath.
noone played nightfae rogue for 2,5 years, noone played sepsis for 2 years, and now finally they are remowing it, applaud
it's funny how blizzard reworking rework (paladin/shaman)
Who the fuck said "ah yeah, paladins need more defensives"?
me, theyre so easy to kill in pvp lol
@@trollonmeI play rog main. They are not
black arrow = sudden death + condemn
Oh so 0 skill just like warrior
Huh
@@angrygun7826 definitely less skill than a warrior
Dark Ranger seems so sick now.
Ret just had a rework not long ago. Unless they are turning paladin into a support class, it just seems like a waste to me. Of course boomkin is getting another 40 changes while they pretend that guardian druid doesn't exist. Meh.
SURE! Yeah! Ret had a REWORK, and they turned it into dog shit with in 3 - 4 weeks, and Holy Paladin isn't even viable now after they fucked that up too. The mana is useless.
Guardian is best tank in m+ tho? And in pvp tanks arent playable anyway. So idk what ure complaining about
Paladin changes sound awesome, about time
Mistweaver looking so good. If WW is also good, then monk is going to be my pick.
Play what you like... they will tune ur class, and if ur class is underpreforming it really only matters for the 1%
I try to keep 4 I enjoy in my rotation, if all 4 are shit I'll take a break till it's fixed.
@@Kanoog whats ur 4
there is like no way they will go through with ALL these paladin changes, they gotta be some some crack
I hope MM hunter is good w/ dark ranger
ikr,the fantasy is so much cooler than the sentinel thing
ok ret paladin and dk main i guess everyone else get recked.
How do you think changing reliable source of something and replacing it with a 5% random ass proc is good change?
BM changes are really really good plus dark ranger looks exciting to play only thing id question is why every 4th cast of beastial wrath we get the proc? make it abit weaker and proc everytime please blizz it looks way too cool not to lol
Holy shit Blizzard went nuts. It's clear that this was supposed to be read for the release of TWW but it wasn't so they delayed it until the first big patch. Hunters and Boomies NEEDED those reworks. Paladins not really but I'll take it. What this does is make me want to make a Hunter, Druid and Paladin ASAP and that's exactly what I'm about to do once I max out my 80 SPriest.
ret's literally getting proper fixes, everything they got for ret specifically is support buffs, and im cool with it, they aren't the best dps which is 100% fine. But getting cc'd into the dirt by every class in the game drove lots of players away form the calss. only issue is balancing damage, they are a proc class, so if you get lucky you nuke, if you don't well you are useless. I understand the complaints from both sides though, but we all know they will be nerfed 2 weeks into the season haha.
Ele shaman indeed got gutted. I love how he complained about the Lava Burst build being 3 buttons when it was so much fun to play, I loved seeing all the Lava Bursts constantly spewing out, and now instead its a 1 MAYBE 2 button spec that just spams lightning bolt and presses Storm elemental. Like literally my rotation in dungeons rn is Stormkeeper, Lightning elemental, Lightning bolt, Lightning bolt, Lightning bolt, Lightning bolt, Lightning bolt, repeat and throw in a Earth Shock or Earthquake here and there (sub in Chain Lightning for Lightning bolt in AOE pulls). They basically gutted any reason to press Lava Burst or most other buttons because it is such a small amount of damage and not even worth it when you can just press Chain Lightning for MORE damage. Not to mention I can't even use MY HERO TALENT ABILITY WHICH IS A MAJOR POINT OF THE EXPANSION sometimes because I can't use 300 maelstrom before everything flops over (and that they soft capped it only slightly buffed its damage). I don't really see Ascendence being THAT big because you only get 1 AOE Lava Burst with Primordial wave now so at most its only 2 casts of AOE Lava Burst, not to mention they're removing no CD Lava Burst in that patch, and then again you can literally just spam Chain lightning for more damage.
I agree that elemental is super boring in dungeon content, but the change in play style when I comes to PvP have been amazing.
Even enhancement feels better than ele now, but enhancement is still poop to play. So sad
I don't like how they made, like, 8 talents that synergise with elemental pet, then they remove skybreaker so it's a huge nerf to all those talents.
Blizzard went from "you can choose to play lightning or fire or a mix of both" to play lightning or f**k off.
I just hope if ele ends up sucking after the patch they won't wait entire season to buff them.
Volcanic surge is removed so ascendance hits with the pillow/weak lava burst.
Yeah well said
All I want for WW and BM monk: remove the cast from [chi-burst], I hate it so much. It takes you out of the flow of rotation, and just feels so bad to press.
feels like this all shoulda been done before game release instaead of very shortly into s1
I'm excited to roll a Dracthyr Warrior. Not for jump glide, but to be a dragon running people down and physically beating them down.
Warlock is kinda weird on that race though.
It's so tempting to make my rogue a Dracthyr for PVP. It's gonna be so wild. Hopefully blizzard see's how strong it is and does what's right and just removes racials from instanced PVP already.
Won't top NElf.
Tauren has stun cc on 1.5 min cd. Dracthyr has 2 cc on 3 min cd. So in 6 min, dractyr use 4 times their cc. In 6 min, tauren uses his 1.5 min stun 4 times. So both have same amount of cc over a 6 min period. Tauren gain 2% crit healing/dmg and dractyr gain 2.5% mastery. They're basically equal, nelf is still better prob.
@@kerkertrandov459is that because of shadow meld or passive racials ?
I’ve been saying to disable racials full stop in rated pvp since tbc arenas.
Evokers should have just stayed the only dracthyr. Such a silly choice
These really didn't target any of the classes that needed it, except making paladins less boring.
The survival changes look good for pack leader, not so much for sentinel. With no way to reduce butchery cool down symphonic arsenal is going to be even more garbage, only pack leader can reduce its cool down.
Yoooo free mushrooms!
Finally enhancement shaman get what they deserve even tho i still think in PVP enhance need a mobility buff we are a PVE bot that can barely move
For sure. They need to buff thunderous paws and reduce the cooldown of feral lunge.
@@andrewwittekind5693 yep and on feral spirit bro it should be a 30 sec cds with like a freedom effect on it
Wtf are you talking about? Did you read the notes? Most of these changes are straight stink. They also didn't address any of the things you're complaining about
*Quietly goes and get my Paladin ready to level to 80...
I am wondering if Pack Leader will be viable now. Sentinel I was told is the go to for TWW season 1.
2x symbols of death is not even a buff.. if a fight drags out.. and you get to 0 charges.. only 1 will recharge... so having 1 or 2 makes no difference once a fight is longer.. you wont get more overall dmg..
the only cool thing about playing rogue. was the choice.. do i want to vanish offensively or defensively... that is gone.. i rather they removed the 1 extra vanish... shadowdust is fun.. 2 vanish is dumb.. :D now we got 2 vanish that does nothing.. i rather have 1 that does something
The problem with wow , is every one can do everything ( there is no more true class identity )
Honestly speaking, it shall happen during BETA testing.
Huge class changing means there were several plans which await players to test.
Then developers collect all feeback and make determination to allow which plan going live.
Not like this and it reminds me of what happened to expansion WOD, idiot stockholders' opinions affect team to shorten patch's duration or change game roadmap.
Ret Paladin need more ST Damage.
tuning is gonna come,these are reworks and changes to how stuff is placed,new talents etc
Do you-all not play for fun? Just meta?
i dont know why, but for me venruki sounds like an ex paladin how found guidance in arcane 🤣
I’ll play mage forever the day they give us arcane surge from plunderstorm
BM FTW 🙌
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Retpocalpyse 2.0
These devs clearly do not want Ele shamans to actually cast lightning bolts it seems. Taking off the 0.25s casttime reduction without any compensation from that will turn Stormbringer into a pure pve option and playing with lightning damage will be relagated to only be used in combination with Stormkeeper every minute. It is already almost impossible to play this spec in pvp and now with that gone and also volcanic surge gone, it will be almost no use to ever try this in a pvp setting.
These devs are pure garbage.
Why u love lightning so much, are u thor fan
Keeper of the grove is going to be amazing now. He didn’t read the part saying warrior of elune now has a connection to force of nature meaning free dream bursts.
Explain pls. I cannot really imagine how it will look like.
@@andrassalfay5869 Some one corrected me in the wow forums. Its the choice node has a connection down to celestial alignment in 11.0.5
Absolutely breaking pvp again and again to the point that you are almost forced to pay for a race re-roll or keep paying that sub to level another toon. MMO's are virtually impossible to completely balance, BUT it would be nice if they tried (pvp)
Making Evokers everything but a tank is just stupid imo.
Wait does lay on hands ignore dampening??
I mean come on. Dracthyr going to be an OP race, like elves haven’t been OP for how long?
He talks about how stale elemental shaman is, yet arms warrior is basically the same since classic xD
They continue to ignore DH, lame
coughs in priest
As a former rogue main I feel you. They could atleast add more cool LOOKING shit we're not asking for some op one shot shit but the hero talents for us have been so underwhelming on top of terrible game play.
I litteraly play DH and disc, fml
@@mexcellent227 I'm also a former Rogue main from BC / Wrath, Switch to DH when I returned because it has about the same amount of key bindings as Old Sub / Combat / Ass Rogue back in the day. When I returned to DF I was just so sick and tired of all the damn macros I needed. Rogue felt like shit if I'm being honest.
frost mage is insanly OP still
No demo lock changes so sad...META HYPE BACK PLS!
When is this releasing?
Some1 said nov/dec
when is this new patch coming out?
Im sick of fire mages getting shit on dude. The worst dps in the game right now and we get 0 buffs. 0. Completely ass. My pyros shouldnt hit for barely more than my fireballs.
No skyreach... No WW CC buffs... Im disappointed...
Top comment being "remove it" is gold.
Shadow priest dracthyr
enahncement shamans need a fking rework
Love you
Dude, Venruki clearly doesn't like MW monks. For him the spec has to remain garbage forever it seems.
The paly buff can only mean one thing. The pvp dev played a game of solo que. He must of lost look at the ret cds and said why didn't sac me. The dev was like you know what il make it auto to help this noobs.
They actually fixed the bugs that was holding back 35% damage and some mitigation bugs as well. See LVladen he found all of them so I bet Ret is going to hit a bit harder.
lizzard meta
Just let my visage be a Dwarf or gnome and I'll play one.
whats a good nameplate addon for pvp?
Check skillcapped ui
Sub cdr removal sucks but is understandable. But the thistle tea being a proc is just so annoying and unfun. I hope they rever that.
Hpal will be slightly less good than the other healers but better on mana and get gutted for another expansion again. It gets so old.
Bro wtf they are killing my fire mage in front of my eyes and very slowly.... if you see a fire mage in M+ or BG you know they've got no idea what they doing with their life feel so sad for the fire mage since BFA i feel like they getting fck up
So priest get a buff cost reduction…. Ya ok
Those resto Druid changes LOL
Yeah I don't know what that means exactly. :D
I started to read and I was like....hm....better be an improvement. The talent was basically a nerfed UA hot. :D
Now its more like "you dispelled my hot? Here you go! more hots!"
Fuckin lazy developement imho. :D
Imagine wanting to class restrict a race because of the least played fucking content......that would be PVP boiz!
Dont balance raids around the 1% and dont balance class/Race combos based on PVP. Period.
Non-Evoker's should not be able to glide while in combat.
Anyone else feel like playing eternal beta unfinished reworked bs with wow and i might add diablo iv? Maybe it is your class gutted tomorrow feeling
Venruki: "I'm not a ret paladin hater." Tell me you're a ret paladin hater without telling me you're a ret paladin hater. Just look at his face. 😆😅🤣😂
In what scenarios do monks use crackling jade lightning?
To keep someone in combat and to knock them back, which is actually very OP and used very frequently in Rbgs and often times a game changer/game winner.
@@Earthfurry717 What about in dungeons and raids?
@@Muddyowns I'd say less important but can still knock things back or get aggro.
@@Earthfurry717 daaaaaaang
Omg! Finally, after 6 years in shit MW is back to compete with the other healers!
I wouldn't recommended getting too excited, if you remember any other time a class is heavily buffed, it's gutted to shit not too long after.
@@Kanoog In this case I'm confident because from what I tested on the ptr, it's not op. It's just good. For example, disc priest and evoker pres cause much more damage than mw even with the changes.
6 years? MW was fucking broken last 2 seasons
@@xlightninghawk6360 Dude, out of every 10 arenas, none of them showed up MW.... What are you talking about? If you're talking about BG, ok, in BG monk was always god. But BG doesn't matter. It's not competitive, there's no championship, No mount.... Whenever we talk about pvp, we talk about 3v3.
I feel like you need a doctorate degree in stats and stack building now with how insane wow has become.. cast this get 3 stacks proc'ing this which gives 5 stacks with a dot stacking an additional 10x when casting that.. like wtf man lol
We have classes like BM and Devoker for you
I just started playing again and rolled a mage. Man its been confusing af. My 2 braincells are working very hard to understand arcane basics
ele sham is way more than 3 buttons. i just came back after many many years to try retail again because i heard ele is fun again and, naturally, they immediately gut the thing. these people are so bad at logic.and, yes, ele is gutted. ascendance is completely screwed after this(no refresh, less up-time(15 from 18 sec), still 3min cd, why the f does ascendance need to flame shock, lb 6 nearby enemies because that's how a ranged caster plays??? why would earth shock ever have anything to do with proc'ing your lava burst ability? nothing makes sense except "ele was to close to being great in pve"
RIP Sub
Take the cooldown off shadow crash just like blizzard. Shadow priest aoe is so bad. Tanks struggle to stack the overloaded caster mobs in these new dungeons, and i struggle to get a decent shadow crash off. The class has been terrible to play since insanity became a thing, and they won't change it ever
These devs definitely destroy the game. At this point they should delete Rogue after another HUGE nerf coming cuz we'll either uninstall or head back to Classic. They've tampered
with the class and the spec so heavily with continuous changes and CRITICAL ones. Kidney shot and Gouge nerfed, whole class revamp just in DF, another REVAMP of SUB
an expansion ago, and now they re removing Invigorating Shadowdusts which is the most crucial talent to SUB Rogue for reducing cooldownds.
Might do my hunter lol evo lol bob people off the bride lol
Crazy to think that as soon as i quit ret pally in shadow lands they get buffed and reworked in dragon flight. Then i play beast mastery right now and they are the worst class in pvp right now. What the actual fuck
So just make one. It takes one day to gear up a toon. Nothing to complain about. People just love complaining.
@@SeemsLikeSomething fuck no I’m not remaking one. I deleted him lol. Relvling in wow is so boring i just can’t. Dungeon spamming till 70 is like tea begging hot coals
@@SeemsLikeSomething Ik you like to waste your time and game all day but i don’t.
@@Deezy_Dubz perhaps have some sense and don’t delete toons so ya don’t have to complain later?
@@SeemsLikeSomething i suffered playing shitty ret for several expansions. After the 3rd one i was done