@@jvvc2 I was a big proponent of using Black Knight to counter F!Edel back in the day. Back then, she was scary bc she was like Felix (she'd hunt you down) and Snake Lady (un killable). But, she could be countered if you brought ONE specific unit that covered her. Snake Lady needs a TEAM of support to even be damaged...
When Nidhoggr released I spent hours and hours in the sim trying to figure out all the mess with all the effects, buffs, and debuffs going on. Had to do exactly what you did and really get familiar with the math. What I have found is how insane true damage reduction is. It being the final part of the calculation basically makes it a final solid wall that has to be broken through. Problem is typical attack stats and buffs are brought down so low due to all these debuffs and special DR that whatever may be left is rendered null once true DR has its final say. The solution? A whole lot of true damage and some method of getting around any special DR. Int systems knows this which is why the bear minimum in true damage has become 25 since the release of book 9. We saw a preview of book 9 with Baldr and the absolutely insane true DR that is to come, nidhogrr is only the appetizer here. In the future I expect Int Systems will give us more options to attack more often (Marissa, Ayra) or just straight up shut off foes defensive specials (Ayra).
Well that's why we use Brave, to first deal with the % Damage Reduction of the Tank's Special. Sadly you need the four hits to actually deal with most tanks. And you also need to get rid of your debuffs.
the way Ayra cuts through Nidhoggr like Butter is laughable tbh, I have been using S!Karla with Momentum to pierce any shiled fighter near save too, I think negating especials will be the next thing we will see this year
I wish there was a mention of armor effectiveness and the astra special multiplying base damage by 2.5X, so the total damage that must be reduced with DR is in the 300-400 range. Attuned and legendary Micaiah can oneshot nidhoggr with Astra as long as their prf B slots get to swing stats.
Sadly it only works on her because of how much damage she can get. Most other units don't have the stat swings to pull it off. You need to be doing a lot of damage on each hit. Sure it can work for Rune too but you still need the quad hits to actually kill since you won't be triggering Astra twice.
Problem with that strategy is it takes 3 team slots to kill 1 unit. There are much better ways of doing that. Brigid and J! Marisa only takes 2, and depending on the team Marisa can sometimes get the kill herself.
I came back to this game after almost a year away, so the only recent unit I have right now is Rune. He has been the only character able to punch through some of the things I have been encountering and he's been super clutch for me 👍
This last SD season, my main team was Duessel, NY Heithrun, Attuned Micaiah, NY Nidhogger, and Desert Marisa. Turns out, with the right support, Duessel quads most non-speedy armour units (which is basically all the relevant ones right now) and absolutely murders them. I won most of my games on the first round because people would just reposition Nidhogger into his range, he would move 4 spaces, getting the highest bonuses from A/D Excel, and quad-kill her. The key here is that he survives her retaliation, and her DR isn’t as powerful on the third and especially fourth hit. Most popular nukes need miracle to kill her because they’re glass cannons, but since Duessel has really high defence on top of his unconditional flat DR, she just doesn’t even come close to killing on the counter. Honestly the most fun I’ve ever had in SD. Oh, and it’s not just armour units he kills. He can player phase all sorts of omni tanks: emblem Ike, the new duo alear, legendary Fae, Attuned Timera, Ninja Diamant, and even some mythic Heithruns. Brave support sure is a hell of an effect.
this is a good showcase to rly get behind the mechanics to kill the redsnek so i can only say ty for the work and dont let the people who dont understand why this is a relevant showcase discourage you. great stuff dude
This is exactly what I'd been struggling with the most lately, especially in AR. Thank you! I think complexity creep has fully crept when I'm unable to make a winning strategy in competitive modes until the relevant units have been uploaded to Arcticsilverfox's simulator and I can actually see what all the different effects have when put together.
My ultimate strat is pressing the surrender button. Other useful tactics to preserve mental health may include "uninstall feh" Arena has become an unplayable hell scape with all those snake ladies and WFomortiis with the Celica Ring warping around while you are forced to use dysfunctional teams with useless skills just for the sake of scoring... Whoever designed that scoring system should be put on trials against humanity... In AR O putting ELynn with WCordelia and Ymir proved to be effective so far.
I actually think Jehanna Lance and all types of Reflect damage counts as True Damage as opposed to Boosted damage. The way to check this is to see if the description says “Deals damage equal to…” as opposed to “Boosts Special damage equal to…”. Boosts damage only exists in Specials afaik, and the one exception where the description is incorrect is Legendary Fjorm’s original Ice Mirror 1 where it says “Boosted”, however it is in fact True damage like every other Reflect Damage source
What have I been doing? Ballynsta. Just use it. I do have a video planned on how to build a Ballynsta team for AR-Offense! Also, I very much agreed that Rune is better than people give him credit for. He’s one of the better nukes in the game and, when supported right, can very easily get it done.
Emblem Sigurd chip with override targeting a teammate, emblem Lyn clean up. Easiest way thus far I’ve found. That or brave + miracle support for a Lyn ring nuke. Flash status is also valid too.
9:47 issue here is how close it still is to not killing. Like OG nihoggr will live stuff like that. My nightmare scenario for reflect is a fast tank with jehanna ike's buff and hardy bearing so it can't be doubled and reflect won't work. Tbh i need a potent buff for my team.
For my consistent strategy, I brought brave Bernadetta, Attuned Peony, A support built Annette, and Beruka. This Beruka had the Firesweep Axe+, Flared Sparrow, Assassin's Strike, Deadly Miasma, and the Poison Strike Seal. Nighoggr couldn't counterattack against the free damage and I was doing barely more than she was recovering, and I had Peony to get Beruka out of danger. When Nidhoggr was on low enough HP, I had Annette boost Bernadetta to get the kill.
One extra characteristic you (might) need: Be able to counter deflect missile (or equivalent effects). 80% dr is a lot, even if it gets pierced. 50% dr piercing will not be enough, so you can either: - outsource the effect to someone who already has 50% dr piercing ( 75% is then usually enough) - Have a team with a magic nuker (Rune, Micaiah) against deflect missile, and a team with a melee nuker against deflect magic
Yeah. Reflect works okay but sometimes not even that since my best bounce units rely on miracle, and need to double. I need potent plus enough special charge for miracle fast.
@@FEH indeed, her plus Batria, Winterdelia or the new Marisa along side E!Lyn has become my way to go and some times is not enough she needs bit more true dmg to completely finish her
A fully kit out Ronan with his refine + a way to pre-charge his special (glacies or astra) can one-shot Nidhogger. I've been using him and he can actually kill all the meta far saves that emblem Lyn can't and it's helped me reach the top of aether raids for the past few weeks.
Agreed. Fallen Edelgard could be dealt with simply by using one unit (Black Knight, Boey, all notably year 1 units, etc), while Snake Lady needs a full team of support to bring down, and even then, she can only be nuked by the newest units in the game. Those new units are making me hate this game.
Me personally, I like to rely on my Soaring Firing Squad (L!Hinoka, A!Brigid, Nidavellir, and M!Quan) Specifically, Veli charges up Hinoka and Brigid (who have a Marth-boosted Blazing Wind with Quickened Pulse and Astra, respectively) and Quan helps them zoom around with Soaring Guidance to obliterate whatever the latest powercreep brings with their overwhelming specials. Humiliating the likes of Brave Felix, Attuned Hector, and of course The Snake is immensely satisfying ^^
I just use my attuned Brigid with Astra special and W!Cordelia support and Lyn ring. Eikbyrnir and Duo Alear are pretty good supports too. With Astra special I’ve hit up to 400 damage on a squishy, and the damage against the snake ladies are pretty good too.
Neat one! To me Exposure and Brave are the most important skills needed to beat through these tanks. My Bernie can handle Nidhoggr well if she is properly debuff with Exposure and Shinon with Brave support can blow it up with a Miracle Special.
I should post a link to this video the next time someone complains about rolling some -ATK IV unit. Can you imagine? In 2025, we STILL have people thinking "oh my god this character is totally useless for getting -3 ATK!!!!".
My biggest issue is now coming up in arena assault. It's insane that you have to have so many units just to counter one, and if you run into her on several maps and have already exhausted many of these units, you might end up losing a few times.
I struggled so hard just trying to finish the latest Chain Challenge because no matter which units I brought, New Years Nidhoggr just _refused_ to take any damage that wasn't Flared Sparrow or the like. Ended up using Attuned Micaiah, but even she struggled to one-round, in spite of seemingly being a direct counter on paper
I've been using Winter shez with either luna or lethality, Windsweep 3. It kills new years nidhoggr cleanly, but mythic nidhoggr i would need emblem marth and i dont have him. A quick update on testing. I found Winter Alear is very good into mythic nidhoggr. Obviously units with buffs and debuffs like attuned michiah will help, but winter alear duo skill helps deal with her.
At the moment, I’m using Emblem Sigurd’s AoE by attacking a 2nd unit first to proc his second action. It whittles her Hp down, and allows you to hit and run the opponent before you bring her down
recently got duo alear and found the solution to this by just keeping even 1 ally near him, that's just one thing however since his whole kit to me is having allies near him and being able to quad, great video nonetheless!
In PvE, I always try to defeat her allies first, then I use my A!Caeda with Godlike Reflexes and E!Sigurd's Ring. It's a bit tricky when it comes to Summoner Duels though, but as much as possible, I still run this tactics.
I usualy make my Emblem sigurd asttack next to the tank i want to defeat twice to give them enough dammage before i swoop them with felix, but now with ayra the plan has changed to Legenday Ayra with emblem sigurd side use instead of Felix
Lyn ring Micaiah with a brave effect support (my only one is Desert Marisa wich isn't ideal but whatever) seems to work most times and I can still make it better
"How do you deal with these "Tank" units"? Whenever I hear someone in gaming use the phrase "Tank", I often remember the R&B singer named, Tank & his single, Baby I Deserve...
Hi Joel, I'm back. I saw your team set-up for Rune vs Attuned Hector. He might be able to take down Hector, but in my testing, I am not seeing Rune do that vs Snake Lady... :(
This is good. Now run the calcs on +10 nid and the +10 new years one with full blessings. Cause thats all I've been running into. Though yeah Rune is awesome. One of the best freebie units.
My attuned Leila with a little buffing and AoE tends to get the job done, otherwise I use her to chip Nidhoggr and finish the job with some other unit that can at least do damage such as B!Chrom, A!Micaiah or B!Bearnie.
What sucks is I’ve stopped pulling on New Heroes and Seasonals because I always have to save up for the Mythics/Legendaries/Emblems. Cause they are just too important not to have.
Jehanna Ike is great counter for her. But if Nidhoggr is with Heidrun, it becomes challenging to beat both of 'em. As for her New Year alt, For some reason, only Rune works for me.
At the games current state i am struggling to kill the current meta with my favorites. Marni is halting and killing my teams in arena and nidhoger is just a wall. I don't have units with true dmg or true DR
It is all good but still need to surrender everytime i see her in arena, with only 3 units (The bonus one is never invested) and 2 being Marnie and Marnie cause i got tired of geting nuked every hit, i cannot deal with her in any way
The key word to look for is "deals". If an effect "deals" damage (e.g. "Deals damage = 20% of unit's Spd"), then that's true damage. If the effect "boosts" damage, then that, unsurprisingly, is boost damage.
@Fehology think your damage formula is slightly off based on feheroes wiki. You said damage is rounded to zero after adding base damage with special damage if it's negative. The damage should be set to zero if it is negative before you add special damage.
Ah yes, it is so healthy to have those fridges of save tanks that need a whole team of 3 up to 5 units (outside of maybe some very specific checks) to just kill that one save tank …. And then pray you also can get out of range of such Offense menaces like Emblem Sigurd, Brave Felix and in general opposing Celica and Lyn rings or somehow be able to end all of them in they very same turn.
my only strat to possibly deal with Nidhoggr in duels 1. try to setup e!sigurd to attack nidhoggr or a unit near her from *exactly* 5 spaces away 2. e!sigurd is brutally killed 3. hope that nidhoggr cant heal in any way 4. hope that nidhoggr was chipped badly enough by sigurd's special 5. hope that remaining units can finish her off 6. they cant 7. uninstall the game
Great video, though the state of FEH is a little despairing. It went from requiring one premium unit to at least 1 high damage and 2+ premium/limited (non F2P sparkable) supports to take down just one unit, and that's not to mention the rest of the opposing team. With enemies that turn the entire field into the Danger Area, do massive damage, and then are also bulky for some reason, these PVP modes are an absolute chore to "play" at this point. My thoughts and prayers go out to all the F2P players that aren't able to keep up with all the necessary premium units.
So i dont think going up against unsupported snakes isnt what we need to break through, add on heiorun, seteth, among other things, i have done it with l!chrom, b!chrom, miccy
Hey, bard! I find it best to break it down to the simplest case and slowly work up from there. The unsupported cases are great for AA and arena, and you can identify drivers. It’s why I saved Rune for last. In my testing, that Hector is harder to take out than Níðhöggr. Either way, I hope the video helped out at least a little.
Both Eikthyrnir can just destroy these new armored monsters. I'd say Mythic is a little bit more consistent (but I guess is because mine is at his maximum build), but Winter has more potential for damage output since I destroy some of them using Pass on his B slot. Of course there are some support like Duo Lucina Future Focus, but tbh it's not THAT needed
Ive never been a fan of Emblem Lyn since she requires 3 team slots to function. Atuned Brigid is much more useful since she has Miracle built in. Paired with J! Marisa nets jer the kill while only needing 2 slots, plus Marisa will still have good damage to take out Laerothr or other bully units. Ymir really brings nothing else to the battle outside of that miracle use.
I'm seeing where this video is coming, but the fact that you need like full teams dedicated for a single unit, when that single unit weapon is not even fully active (no buffs+hexblade+50% piercing cause of having no allies), with no merges, emblems, or supports like Heidrun... What's even the point...
I love the breakdown of this video. It gives you raw answers and their examlples. People asking what units do what where need to be able to read and use reason. This game isn't for everyone, but anyone can understand it when you study up. Just like school 😂😂😂
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I don’t think I’ve ever seen a tutorial or analysis of Feh that exists just for the purpose of dealing with 1 unit.
The new gen doesn't know about fallen Edelgard's reign of terror
@@jvvc2 She stated a precedent, and by that, things like this are common now
@@jvvc2 I was a big proponent of using Black Knight to counter F!Edel back in the day. Back then, she was scary bc she was like Felix (she'd hunt you down) and Snake Lady (un killable). But, she could be countered if you brought ONE specific unit that covered her.
Snake Lady needs a TEAM of support to even be damaged...
@@jvvc2Edelgard was bad but at least she had to transform to be scary. This snake lady is so annoying 24/7
@@t337c213 Nagi was also a good counter or way to stalemate
When Nidhoggr released I spent hours and hours in the sim trying to figure out all the mess with all the effects, buffs, and debuffs going on. Had to do exactly what you did and really get familiar with the math. What I have found is how insane true damage reduction is. It being the final part of the calculation basically makes it a final solid wall that has to be broken through. Problem is typical attack stats and buffs are brought down so low due to all these debuffs and special DR that whatever may be left is rendered null once true DR has its final say. The solution? A whole lot of true damage and some method of getting around any special DR. Int systems knows this which is why the bear minimum in true damage has become 25 since the release of book 9. We saw a preview of book 9 with Baldr and the absolutely insane true DR that is to come, nidhogrr is only the appetizer here. In the future I expect Int Systems will give us more options to attack more often (Marissa, Ayra) or just straight up shut off foes defensive specials (Ayra).
Well that's why we use Brave, to first deal with the % Damage Reduction of the Tank's Special. Sadly you need the four hits to actually deal with most tanks. And you also need to get rid of your debuffs.
the way Ayra cuts through Nidhoggr like Butter is laughable tbh, I have been using S!Karla with Momentum to pierce any shiled fighter near save too, I think negating especials will be the next thing we will see this year
I wish there was a mention of armor effectiveness and the astra special multiplying base damage by 2.5X, so the total damage that must be reduced with DR is in the 300-400 range. Attuned and legendary Micaiah can oneshot nidhoggr with Astra as long as their prf B slots get to swing stats.
Sadly it only works on her because of how much damage she can get. Most other units don't have the stat swings to pull it off. You need to be doing a lot of damage on each hit. Sure it can work for Rune too but you still need the quad hits to actually kill since you won't be triggering Astra twice.
Great video
This was a well needed video. Often times certain stats or mechanics are forgotten for newer ones.
Duo Lucina to inflict Exposure + Cordelia to grant Dual Strike + Ymir for Miracle + Emblem Lyn initiating GGs SHAKE MY HAND✋
That does not kill Nidhoggr unfortunatedly
@EzeroXP you're probably using Legendary Lyn instead
YEP well I use both E!Lyn and L!Micaiah but it works every time
Problem with that strategy is it takes 3 team slots to kill 1 unit. There are much better ways of doing that. Brigid and J! Marisa only takes 2, and depending on the team Marisa can sometimes get the kill herself.
@@hanzou1238 saftey fence is your best friend. I haven't found a defense team strong enough to defeat that strat. At least not yet
I came back to this game after almost a year away, so the only recent unit I have right now is Rune. He has been the only character able to punch through some of the things I have been encountering and he's been super clutch for me 👍
This last SD season, my main team was Duessel, NY Heithrun, Attuned Micaiah, NY Nidhogger, and Desert Marisa. Turns out, with the right support, Duessel quads most non-speedy armour units (which is basically all the relevant ones right now) and absolutely murders them. I won most of my games on the first round because people would just reposition Nidhogger into his range, he would move 4 spaces, getting the highest bonuses from A/D Excel, and quad-kill her. The key here is that he survives her retaliation, and her DR isn’t as powerful on the third and especially fourth hit. Most popular nukes need miracle to kill her because they’re glass cannons, but since Duessel has really high defence on top of his unconditional flat DR, she just doesn’t even come close to killing on the counter. Honestly the most fun I’ve ever had in SD. Oh, and it’s not just armour units he kills. He can player phase all sorts of omni tanks: emblem Ike, the new duo alear, legendary Fae, Attuned Timera, Ninja Diamant, and even some mythic Heithruns. Brave support sure is a hell of an effect.
Very cool info. I'll try it
This is an awesome video, I struggled to understand what the heck was going on with E!Ike, so this breakdown is HUGE help, thank you so much!
this is a good showcase to rly get behind the mechanics to kill the redsnek so i can only say ty for the work and dont let the people who dont understand why this is a relevant showcase discourage you. great stuff dude
Thank you for putting so much time and effort into these videos!
This is exactly what I'd been struggling with the most lately, especially in AR. Thank you! I think complexity creep has fully crept when I'm unable to make a winning strategy in competitive modes until the relevant units have been uploaded to Arcticsilverfox's simulator and I can actually see what all the different effects have when put together.
God bless arctic silver fox. He’s a life saver.
"if you understand the laws of physics, anything is possible"
My ultimate strat is pressing the surrender button. Other useful tactics to preserve mental health may include "uninstall feh"
Arena has become an unplayable hell scape with all those snake ladies and WFomortiis with the Celica Ring warping around while you are forced to use dysfunctional teams with useless skills just for the sake of scoring... Whoever designed that scoring system should be put on trials against humanity...
In AR O putting ELynn with WCordelia and Ymir proved to be effective so far.
I had to use Oswin for my arena runs those past weeks and it was exhausting lmao, felt good when I was done though
rune is absolutely amazing! I have him at +5 rn (he’s gonna be my first +10 mythic) and he eats far saves for breakfast.
Sacred Stones Selena and her refine has done wonders for me in Arena VS Nidhoggr!!!
Love these types of videos!
Very informative video, it’s always so fun to figure out ways of dealing with new units. 9:09 what is the reason saber needs to have brave?
To burn the second proc of special dr caused by twin save, so that she's left without dr on 3rd and 4th hit
I actually think Jehanna Lance and all types of Reflect damage counts as True Damage as opposed to Boosted damage. The way to check this is to see if the description says “Deals damage equal to…” as opposed to “Boosts Special damage equal to…”.
Boosts damage only exists in Specials afaik, and the one exception where the description is incorrect is Legendary Fjorm’s original Ice Mirror 1 where it says “Boosted”, however it is in fact True damage like every other Reflect Damage source
What have I been doing? Ballynsta. Just use it. I do have a video planned on how to build a Ballynsta team for AR-Offense!
Also, I very much agreed that Rune is better than people give him credit for. He’s one of the better nukes in the game and, when supported right, can very easily get it done.
Emblem Sigurd chip with override targeting a teammate, emblem Lyn clean up. Easiest way thus far I’ve found. That or brave + miracle support for a Lyn ring nuke. Flash status is also valid too.
9:47 issue here is how close it still is to not killing. Like OG nihoggr will live stuff like that. My nightmare scenario for reflect is a fast tank with jehanna ike's buff and hardy bearing so it can't be doubled and reflect won't work. Tbh i need a potent buff for my team.
For my consistent strategy, I brought brave Bernadetta, Attuned Peony, A support built Annette, and Beruka. This Beruka had the Firesweep Axe+, Flared Sparrow, Assassin's Strike, Deadly Miasma, and the Poison Strike Seal. Nighoggr couldn't counterattack against the free damage and I was doing barely more than she was recovering, and I had Peony to get Beruka out of danger. When Nidhoggr was on low enough HP, I had Annette boost Bernadetta to get the kill.
One extra characteristic you (might) need:
Be able to counter deflect missile (or equivalent effects). 80% dr is a lot, even if it gets pierced. 50% dr piercing will not be enough, so you can either:
- outsource the effect to someone who already has 50% dr piercing ( 75% is then usually enough)
- Have a team with a magic nuker (Rune, Micaiah) against deflect missile, and a team with a melee nuker against deflect magic
Always assume Nio is running hardy bearing. Never use desperation to counter her.
Yeah. Reflect works okay but sometimes not even that since my best bounce units rely on miracle, and need to double. I need potent plus enough special charge for miracle fast.
It’s amazing how much value Ymir has gained. She’s perfect to help out with the Hardy Bearing seal.
@@FEH indeed, her plus Batria, Winterdelia or the new Marisa along side E!Lyn has become my way to go and some times is not enough she needs bit more true dmg to completely finish her
A fully kit out Ronan with his refine + a way to pre-charge his special (glacies or astra) can one-shot Nidhogger. I've been using him and he can actually kill all the meta far saves that emblem Lyn can't and it's helped me reach the top of aether raids for the past few weeks.
Should not need all of that to kill one unit.
Agreed. Fallen Edelgard could be dealt with simply by using one unit (Black Knight, Boey, all notably year 1 units, etc), while Snake Lady needs a full team of support to bring down, and even then, she can only be nuked by the newest units in the game. Those new units are making me hate this game.
@@t337c213Not to mention after that you still have to deal with the rest of the team full of then especially offensive meta threats. Yeeeehaa.
Me personally, I like to rely on my Soaring Firing Squad (L!Hinoka, A!Brigid, Nidavellir, and M!Quan)
Specifically, Veli charges up Hinoka and Brigid (who have a Marth-boosted Blazing Wind with Quickened Pulse and Astra, respectively) and Quan helps them zoom around with Soaring Guidance to obliterate whatever the latest powercreep brings with their overwhelming specials. Humiliating the likes of Brave Felix, Attuned Hector, and of course The Snake is immensely satisfying ^^
Great video!
I just use my attuned Brigid with Astra special and W!Cordelia support and Lyn ring. Eikbyrnir and Duo Alear are pretty good supports too. With Astra special I’ve hit up to 400 damage on a squishy, and the damage against the snake ladies are pretty good too.
Neat one! To me Exposure and Brave are the most important skills needed to beat through these tanks. My Bernie can handle Nidhoggr well if she is properly debuff with Exposure and Shinon with Brave support can blow it up with a Miracle Special.
I should post a link to this video the next time someone complains about rolling some -ATK IV unit. Can you imagine? In 2025, we STILL have people thinking "oh my god this character is totally useless for getting -3 ATK!!!!".
My biggest issue is now coming up in arena assault. It's insane that you have to have so many units just to counter one, and if you run into her on several maps and have already exhausted many of these units, you might end up losing a few times.
Finished my run this week and didn't encounter her somehow (764 range)
I struggled so hard just trying to finish the latest Chain Challenge because no matter which units I brought, New Years Nidhoggr just _refused_ to take any damage that wasn't Flared Sparrow or the like. Ended up using Attuned Micaiah, but even she struggled to one-round, in spite of seemingly being a direct counter on paper
I've been using Winter shez with either luna or lethality, Windsweep 3. It kills new years nidhoggr cleanly, but mythic nidhoggr i would need emblem marth and i dont have him.
A quick update on testing. I found Winter Alear is very good into mythic nidhoggr. Obviously units with buffs and debuffs like attuned michiah will help, but winter alear duo skill helps deal with her.
At the moment, I’m using Emblem Sigurd’s AoE by attacking a 2nd unit first to proc his second action. It whittles her Hp down, and allows you to hit and run the opponent before you bring her down
I actually find an old meta unit deals well with both snakes (red and blue)... the answer: dual Leon
recently got duo alear and found the solution to this by just keeping even 1 ally near him, that's just one thing however since his whole kit to me is having allies near him and being able to quad, great video nonetheless!
In PvE, I always try to defeat her allies first, then I use my A!Caeda with Godlike Reflexes and E!Sigurd's Ring. It's a bit tricky when it comes to Summoner Duels though, but as much as possible, I still run this tactics.
I wanna watch more videos lke these! ❤
I'm waiting for an armour far save that has somehow null miracle built in (Muspell alt) to increase the ceiling even further.
Nidhoggr+Heidrun is one of the most absurd combos we have since Robin+Lucia 2 years ago before we had pre-combat damage
I usualy make my Emblem sigurd asttack next to the tank i want to defeat twice to give them enough dammage before i swoop them with felix, but now with ayra the plan has changed to Legenday Ayra with emblem sigurd side use instead of Felix
As a big fan of Lilina since day one, I try to make any version of her do the job!
I just pulled my first Niðhöggr and saw this lol
Lyn ring Micaiah with a brave effect support (my only one is Desert Marisa wich isn't ideal but whatever) seems to work most times and I can still make it better
Wow, the first video i meet which discusses how to defeat 1 hero (maybe ike too) 😂 Niðghoggr terror
"How do you deal with these "Tank" units"? Whenever I hear someone in gaming use the phrase "Tank", I often remember the R&B singer named, Tank & his single, Baby I Deserve...
My B!Chrom is able to kill either snake (base kits, +0) with no support, just A Fate Changed. Flow Desperation and Astra put in work.
Hi Joel, I'm back. I saw your team set-up for Rune vs Attuned Hector. He might be able to take down Hector, but in my testing, I am not seeing Rune do that vs Snake Lady... :(
4:00 Akariss would be proud
Assassin Tsubasa, shreds everything with flared and No quarter for extra help
This is good. Now run the calcs on +10 nid and the +10 new years one with full blessings. Cause thats all I've been running into.
Though yeah Rune is awesome. One of the best freebie units.
Most credible players use Hardy bearing seal on their far save. What to do, given miracle piercing is starting to get popular?
My attuned Leila with a little buffing and AoE tends to get the job done, otherwise I use her to chip Nidhoggr and finish the job with some other unit that can at least do damage such as B!Chrom, A!Micaiah or B!Bearnie.
What sucks is I’ve stopped pulling on New Heroes and Seasonals because I always have to save up for the Mythics/Legendaries/Emblems. Cause they are just too important not to have.
Oh and sorry to comment two different times, as a snake enjoyer I’m running hardy bearing so 🤝🏼
I need a list of exposure granting units
Jehanna Ike is great counter for her. But if Nidhoggr is with Heidrun, it becomes challenging to beat both of 'em.
As for her New Year alt, For some reason, only Rune works for me.
Sigh....I miss Surtr.
Eitri with her refine handles her pretty cleanly.
I just love seeing Eitri being used
Never thought I'd say that but I want Fedelgard back 😂
How are you going to release this vid the day after I pull NY Nidhogger
At the games current state i am struggling to kill the current meta with my favorites. Marni is halting and killing my teams in arena and nidhoger is just a wall. I don't have units with true dmg or true DR
It is all good but still need to surrender everytime i see her in arena, with only 3 units (The bonus one is never invested) and 2 being Marnie and Marnie cause i got tired of geting nuked every hit, i cannot deal with her in any way
Ronan
So whenever we have a weapon or something that says "gives X% damage based on stat X" is that true damage?
The key word to look for is "deals". If an effect "deals" damage (e.g. "Deals damage = 20% of unit's Spd"), then that's true damage. If the effect "boosts" damage, then that, unsurprisingly, is boost damage.
@Fehology think your damage formula is slightly off based on feheroes wiki. You said damage is rounded to zero after adding base damage with special damage if it's negative. The damage should be set to zero if it is negative before you add special damage.
Sacred Spear does a phenomenal job explaining this. This video helped me out a lot
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Ah yes, it is so healthy to have those fridges of save tanks that need a whole team of 3 up to 5 units (outside of maybe some very specific checks) to just kill that one save tank …. And then pray you also can get out of range of such Offense menaces like Emblem Sigurd, Brave Felix and in general opposing Celica and Lyn rings or somehow be able to end all of them in they very same turn.
my only strat to possibly deal with Nidhoggr in duels
1. try to setup e!sigurd to attack nidhoggr or a unit near her from *exactly* 5 spaces away
2. e!sigurd is brutally killed
3. hope that nidhoggr cant heal in any way
4. hope that nidhoggr was chipped badly enough by sigurd's special
5. hope that remaining units can finish her off
6. they cant
7. uninstall the game
Laethor + loki,
And ny nidhogger can be killed by any decent nuke.
How do I deal with it. I don’t I quit playing and just log in for the rewards right now and strictly play PvE ☠️
Great video, though the state of FEH is a little despairing. It went from requiring one premium unit to at least 1 high damage and 2+ premium/limited (non F2P sparkable) supports to take down just one unit, and that's not to mention the rest of the opposing team. With enemies that turn the entire field into the Danger Area, do massive damage, and then are also bulky for some reason, these PVP modes are an absolute chore to "play" at this point. My thoughts and prayers go out to all the F2P players that aren't able to keep up with all the necessary premium units.
She’s so easy to counter , I use duo Lyon and that’s enough for basically everything?
So i dont think going up against unsupported snakes isnt what we need to break through, add on heiorun, seteth, among other things, i have done it with l!chrom, b!chrom, miccy
Hey, bard! I find it best to break it down to the simplest case and slowly work up from there. The unsupported cases are great for AA and arena, and you can identify drivers. It’s why I saved Rune for last. In my testing, that Hector is harder to take out than Níðhöggr. Either way, I hope the video helped out at least a little.
4:04 69 noice.
Both Eikthyrnir can just destroy these new armored monsters. I'd say Mythic is a little bit more consistent (but I guess is because mine is at his maximum build), but Winter has more potential for damage output since I destroy some of them using Pass on his B slot. Of course there are some support like Duo Lucina Future Focus, but tbh it's not THAT needed
Ive never been a fan of Emblem Lyn since she requires 3 team slots to function. Atuned Brigid is much more useful since she has Miracle built in. Paired with J! Marisa nets jer the kill while only needing 2 slots, plus Marisa will still have good damage to take out Laerothr or other bully units. Ymir really brings nothing else to the battle outside of that miracle use.
I’m just hoping she’s not there and using my escape ladders 😊
Lilina gaming.
Use AOE Nukes like Emblem Sigurd. Just don't let both Niohoggr and New years Niohoggr cause you an exclusive sabotage skill, lol.
I'm seeing where this video is coming, but the fact that you need like full teams dedicated for a single unit, when that single unit weapon is not even fully active (no buffs+hexblade+50% piercing cause of having no allies), with no merges, emblems, or supports like Heidrun... What's even the point...
No think = use deerboy and win
I just use Brave Eliwood or Groom Roy with some good dancers. The rest of you need to step up.
I've learned the best way to counter the meta is to not play
Why did Nintendo approve of a unit that is literally invincible? I hate Nidhoggr SO MUCH...
I just use my trusty plus 10 saul and chip her down to 1hp and than use my brave Bernie...
Sounds like old school arena! I used to use Lucius for the same purpose
I love the breakdown of this video. It gives you raw answers and their examlples. People asking what units do what where need to be able to read and use reason. This game isn't for everyone, but anyone can understand it when you study up. Just like school 😂😂😂